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Rights and Liberties

As Unlawful Arrests Continue, St. Paul Feels Like a City Under Siege for Some Residents

By Liliana Segura, AlterNet. Posted September 3, 2008.


"It's like we don't have rights. Like we don't even live here."
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Sitting outside the Black Dog cafe in lower St. Paul late Tuesday morning, a lanky kid in dreadlocks and a black Bob Marley T-shirt stopped, asked me for a light, and sat down next to me. It was drizzly and gray, and eerily quiet. The night before, nearly 300 people had been arrested by Minnesota police in a sweeping display of brute force. Among them were journalist Amy Goodman and two Democracy Now! producers, both of whom were physically assaulted. With helicopters overheard and the National Guard out, it felt like a city under siege.

I asked the guy if he lived in St. Paul. "Yeah." It turned out he lives next door, in the building where I've been staying, an artist's co-op on Broadway Street. I was about to ask him what he thought about the scene here when he sort of laughed and said, "Yeah, you know -- I was just arrested."

At around 9:45 that morning, John, 20, was walking home from the bank a few blocks away when he spotted what he thought was a police riot club -- a ubiquitous weapon on the streets here. "It was right off of West 7th Street in, like, a planter; I checked it out but it ended up being a broomstick." He put it down and kept walking, when suddenly he was surrounded by police officers -- "three squad for sure, maybe four" -- one of whom was a woman. "She was like, 'Get on your stomach or I'm gonna tase you!'" He asked them what he had done, but they wouldn't say. Instead, they asked him leading questions about other people they'd just arrested. "They said, 'so, who was in the white van you were associated with?" "I was like, white van? I don't know what you're talking about."

John said he hasn't done any anti-war organizing -- "I'd like to" -- but since the arrival of the RNC and the protesters against it, he has been checking out the scene around town. "Yesterday I was just cruising around. I was in the Funk the War march -- they had this huge Gandhi statue and a globe …" But despite the mostly peaceful protests, when it comes to security, "it's been crazy." He showed me videos he'd taken on his phone while he skated around, lines of cops in riot gear -- "There was a bunch of people getting maced over there" -- and shots of the buses and unmarked minivans the police have used to detain people and take them away.

I asked him if he had been read his rights. "No, they didn't read me my Miranda rights at all. ... They cuffed me, and when I complained to one one guy about the cuffs being too tight, he was like, 'Oh yeah? Well, let me tighten that up for you.'"

While he kept asking why they were arresting him, John did not resist -- "I was really cooperative; I didn't want to be held" -- but he did remember something he had been given at one of the marches. "Finally I pulled this out," he said, showing me a slip of paper that read, "ACLU Important Contact Information." "Yeah, you should hold onto that," one of the cops told him.

"They held me right down over there," he said, pointing north. "It's, like, the St. Paul police station." They confiscated and searched his belongings but forgot his cell phone in his pocket. "They put me in a cell that had snot and blood all over the wall," he told me, pulling out his phone and showing me footage of the stained white walls. He was given no phone call.


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How can I say this?
Posted by: The Old Hippie on Sep 3, 2008 2:39 AM   
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Welcome to the America you allowed.

"Those within history see it the least."

Can't say we weren't warned...

“They that can give up essential liberty
to purchase a little temporary safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
-- Benjamin Franklin
 

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» RE: How can I say this? Posted by: dmaciewski
» RE: How can I say this? Posted by: The Old Hippie
» Oh let him alone Posted by: EinMD
» RE: Oh let him alone Posted by: Cybershaman
» I agree, but Posted by: WhuThe?!?
Tiananmen Square comes to Minnestota
Posted by: bulbman on Sep 3, 2008 3:29 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Meet the new boss.

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How do you fight for your rights?
Posted by: ErHoff on Sep 3, 2008 3:45 AM   
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So if the police are breaking the law grievously, who do you turn to? Do Americans have to begin vigilantism against the police in places like St Louis like the patriots that fought the armed redcoats? I was never one to tie the 2nd amendment to individual arsenals in civilized cities, however St Louis is not, IS NOT a civilized city. If the people have no legal redress against uniformed goon squads, should the citizens sit by or decide on other means to protect their rights.

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» You mean they are "just following orders"? Posted by: photon's feather
Can you hear it, St. Paul police -- that incredible ROARING SOUND?
Posted by: Obama2008Fan on Sep 3, 2008 3:54 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It's being made by all the U.S. soldiers, sailors and airmen who died for our freedom -- spinning in their graves.

Obama Fan
Reasons for voting against Insane McCain

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» Hugh Scott..... Posted by: LionHeart
Outright Police State Fascism
Posted by: Last Chance on Sep 3, 2008 4:05 AM   
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In view of the illegal arrests outside the RNC Convention it should be clear that if John McCain enters the White House he will trash the Constitution even worse than Bush.

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The ACLU absent?
Posted by: Libsrule on Sep 3, 2008 4:08 AM   
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Does ANYONE know if the ACLU has been doing anything?

I've been a member (money only) since 1985 thanks to Ronnie Raygun but I'd sure like to know my money is being spent to stop this sort of thing or at least start bringing the cops to court on this transgression of our rights.

This is pure Communist China and Soviet Union tactics. Are ALL the cops that blind to what they are doing?

Or do they all have the mentality that this is a good way to go beat up people and get away with it??

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» Does it exist? Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: Does it exist? Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: The ACLU absent? Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: The ACLU absent? Posted by: LMNOP
» RE: The ACLU absent? Posted by: KurtFF8
» RE: The ACLU absent? Posted by: LionHeart
» Hugh Scott - the "war hero" Posted by: LionHeart
» Hugh Scott.... Posted by: LionHeart
» RE: The ACLU absent? Posted by: beautifulady2003
» RE: The ACLU absent? Posted by: RMyers
I am too frightened to write the Mayor
Posted by: terradea42 on Sep 3, 2008 4:50 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Or say what I really feel. I do not want to be arrested and jailed. I have been chilled.

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» If they're coming Posted by: EinMD
» RE: I am too frightened to write the Mayor Posted by: QuestionAuthority
» Hmm. Good Technique. Posted by: grumble-bum
» RE: I am too frightened to write the Mayor Posted by: wefearwhatwedontunderstand
This is not a free society
Posted by: lclark on Sep 3, 2008 5:32 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It's straightfoward:
- You no longer have the right of assembly or free speech.
- A 'Free Speech Zone' is an absurdity
- Police are no longer 'Peace Officers' but instruments of an overbearing elite. They are overly outfitted with weapons of force and dressed in black to encourage aggression on their part and intimidation to citizens.
- What was once commonly understood as expressions of civil disobedience has been criminized. Look at the 'Patriot' Act. It defines what was once civil disobediance as 'terrorism'.
- The laws have become burdonsome and are crafted to ensure the protection of the political elite and the corportocracy from responsibility to citizens.
- It sad what has evolved in this country that the managed corporate news proclaims as the place of freedom and democracy while we are further tagged and intimidated by gangsters and bullies that have consolidated power, seen the productive capacity of the country trasferred to a (overt) totalitarian country, and seen propaganda and outright lies used to use the remaining wealth and health ( read depleted uranium) of citizens to attempt a resource grab in other parts of the planet.

Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats will revamp the creation of energy in this country and free us from dependence on corporate con trolled oil...they will keep their hand on the spigot and citizens on a tether. Nor will you see the Democrats rescind the government spying on citizens, the draconian Patriot Act, or the Bankruptcy and credit laws passed to exploit us.

A sad end to the American revolution.

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» RE: This is not a free society Posted by: clvngodess
this is just the rehearsal folks
Posted by: twoten on Sep 3, 2008 5:33 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
All those bright shiny new jail cells being built all over Amerika, who do you think they're for? This is just a test run, it's gonna happen fast now, November is just a few months away. You had your chance to move to Canada, now you'll be trapped behind the Nazi-GOP curtain. Only a few weeks left, do you have the guts to get out now?

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» TOO LATE TO GET OUT NOW Posted by: edgeofnowhere
The police activity is awful
Posted by: michellet612 on Sep 3, 2008 5:42 AM   
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I've been following one of the stories of police brutality for my blog-

http://www.vitalsourcemag.com/index.php/blogs/michelle/

It's crazy awful out there.

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Just Practice For The Expected Mass Civil Disorder Across The World
Posted by: opmoc on Sep 3, 2008 5:42 AM   
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The Powers that be - and by that I am not talking about the elected governments - but those who are really in control - are planning to significantly reduce World Energy Supplies. This isn't because of Peak Oil (which is a myth that will be used to sell the action) - but due to planned mass human depopulation.

Switching off energy is the one thing that will get people off their arses to protest - because without energy nothing works in our cities - where most people live.

In The UK - even Parking Wardens are being trained to prepare for civil disorder.

You ain't seen nothing yet - and UK police can be even worse than US cops - and have had lots of practice.

It won't make any difference who wins the US elections - if anything the Dems are even keener on switching the energy off.

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» planned mass human depopulation?? Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» RE: planned mass human depopulation?? Posted by: wefearwhatwedontunderstand
Wait Until the Lawsuits
Posted by: WhutDaFun on Sep 3, 2008 6:02 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Whether or not the people of St. Paul are concerned about this, I hope they understand that a lot of their tax dollars are going to pay for the inevitable lawsuits (i.e. New York, 2004 RNC convention)

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» RE: Wait Until the Lawsuits Posted by: Last Chance
St. Paul will be the whole country ...
Posted by: nc green on Sep 3, 2008 6:50 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
... after four more years of Republican rule. At least the Grand Old Party doesn't try to hide its fascism. It goes to a liberal city and takes it over, lock, stock and barrel. It beats and arrests citizens and throws them in jail for no reason. It detains journalists illegally.

And the Heartland laughs, cheers and marks its ballot, "Republican."

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Wrong Place for Convention
Posted by: COinms on Sep 3, 2008 6:52 AM   
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Since the Republican party has largely become a southern based religious party, they should have had the convention in Jackson, MS -- my state. There would have been no protests; Hailey Barbour would make sure of that. This deeply red state would be a safe place for the GOP. Citizens would probably take up arms and defend the convention against those libruls and commies and demoncrats that might show up to protest.

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Senior Cynic
Posted by: rdodell on Sep 3, 2008 8:26 AM   
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We are guilty of allowing the current elitist clan to thrive in the U.S and across the entire planet. Where the elite go, their hob-nailed boots go ahead to protect them from us
"commoners" and "serfs" who may threaten their extravagant, luxurious lifestyles. For any who need proof, Incidents at the RNC are solid evidence. Those who witnessed Amy Goodman's report (Democracy Now) will attest that events in Minneapolis/St. Paul make Hitler's 1939 Germany look like a garden party. An apathetic, complacent citizenry has spawned corruption in government, runaway capitalism, and rampant materialism. Edmund Burke declared, "ALL THAT IS NECESSARY FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING". Could it be that we are in the process of reaping the bitter crop we have sowed over the past 40 years?

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» RE: Senior Cynic Posted by: mnstra
» usterroristnation Posted by: usterroristnation
'Deja Vu all Over again' Yogi's Insight
Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 3, 2008 8:56 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Have we seen this 'Movie' before. Was it in English, at Kent State.Or did it have subtitles, In Chinese & German. Maybe we saw it in a Scroll or a Hieroglyphic???
That is what Yogi really revealed in that statement. When you've seen it before and still do nothing to change the Outcome.
Same definition for Insanity (Or Stupidity)- doing the same behavior over & over and expecting a different result.
The Republican party was conquered decades ago and is still under the same 'Boys' who fucked it up back then.Cheney,Rumsfeld, Wolfie and their cast of accomplices and minions.
We need to not only Make sure Mac does NOT win in Nov...But all these National Traitors , war criminals are convicted of ALL their crimes against Humanity.
want to Watch Corps & Gov't Figures straighten their shit out fast....Punish a few to the fullest extent of the Law.
Industry and Gov't are Tools which are to serve Man (Created BY Man), Not the other way around.
We will not sit back as 'Rome' conquers our People & land, As Marie eats cake and we starve, As Hitler passes Judgemnt on our neighbors Worth, as Cheney Corps Steals and sells OUR country to the Highest Bidder, as another conquest!

Let's Set a Precedence and a Deterent

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Report from the 101st Fighting Keyboardists at the RNC
Posted by: siribear on Sep 3, 2008 9:11 AM   
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Hey, people, quit your whining! We're out here, in the streets, DOING something about the police brutality. We have a crisis counseling & first aid center, people are doing jail support, calling the Sherrif's office and demanding care for the tasered, beaten and peppersprayed. We're working to get the word out to the media.

If you just whine about the police state without DOING SOMETHING, you're as guilty of opening the door to repression as anyone else.

Here's what you can do: Call your local media...TV...Newspapers...and DEMAND that they offer coverage of the police riots in St. Paul.

Thank you! -S-

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GET USED TO IT . . .
Posted by: newsound on Sep 3, 2008 9:35 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Get used to it! You are seeing a preview of the next 4 to 8 years. Hoping for change will do nothing. The Repubs have had 8 years to put the wheels in motion and they are not about to hand it over to a "liberal" president. McCain WILL win, thanks to a close enough vote for Diebold to fudge the ballots and America will then stay the course that has been planned since the late 90's. Wake up!!

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» WHAT liberal president? Posted by: photon's feather
Busy on the 10 Commandments
Posted by: rascal on Sep 3, 2008 9:38 AM   
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Don't you know the ACLU is busy getting the Ten Commandments taken down and moving nativity scenes off of state property to worry with something as trivial as human rights.

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» RE: Busy on the 10 Commandments Posted by: LionHeart
» RE: Busy on the 10 Commandments Posted by: buschthebearrefreshing
Well,we all know that law enforcement are Rethug!
Posted by: donl51 on Sep 3, 2008 9:38 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...Well now they're Nazis's not a distant move when you look at whats been happening,!!look and listen to our own people complaining about every fucking thing but mostly about our safety from those who'd like to see America dead!!and we're falling right into that ''perfect'' trap!!next will be Marshal Law,Bush will become the Dictator he aspires to be,and Laura will bat her eyes and tell us all what a good man her husband is and that he's doing this for our safety!....and guess what!..most Americans will accept it because they've become too stupid ,or complacent or just to handicapped mentally to do shit!!hell most of us out here are fighting to just keep our heads above water!..I stopped trusting our Fed. Gov.when I was in Vietnam,and the lower branches followed as I grew older....for our supposed safety ''which is an orchestrated crock of shit'' we've become a police state,w/it's prohibitions on everything !!

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» It's spelled martial law Posted by: Hachino
Mayor
Posted by: Archie1954 on Sep 3, 2008 9:45 AM   
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After reading this article I can't help but think that maybe it's time for a recall petition against Mayor Coleman. He obviously couldn't care less about the destruction of Constitutional rights and the potential expenditure of millions of taxpayers dollars for payouts to victims after they win their civil court cases against the city.

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» RE: Mayor Posted by: donl51
» I just signed a petition! Join me! Posted by: photon's feather
» usterroristnation Posted by: usterroristnation
St. Paul??
Posted by: mumblingrepublican on Sep 3, 2008 10:21 AM   
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Hey, I'm from Minneapolis... where exactly is St. Paul from here??

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» RE: St. Paul?? Posted by: donl51
Remember the NYC Police Brutality at the 2004 RNC?
Posted by: itzamirakul on Sep 3, 2008 10:36 AM   
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Under the leadership of the infamous and well-detested Rudy Giuliani, the NYPD acted the same way on the streets of the Big Apple as are the cops in the Twin Cities. I was there as the cops wrapped blocks of citizens in orange fencing, regardless of age or physical disability and carted them off to hangar-type buildings for up to three days. I wouldn't be surprised if the St. Paul Police have been advised by Ms. JulieAnnie in legal brutality.

Methinks this brutal behavior is par for the course at Republican events because they are terrified that the greater public will get wind of just how many protesters there are against Republican candidates and their inane policies. Also, their entire platform is based on terror, including the terror they can inflict on their own citizens as they move us more and more toward a unified world government. The Republicans are determined to end all forms of free speech.

It never ceases to amaze me how Republican supporters can ignore this behavior and continue to vote against their own best interests.

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support free press!!!
Posted by: wefearwhatwedontunderstand on Sep 3, 2008 11:03 AM   
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I cannot stress this enough. I am re-posting what might have gotten lost in a reply to the person who is too afraid to contact the mayor, and for all of you who are upset by all of this.

If you give in to their intimidation tactics, then they will keep doing this. Sign the petition at www.FreePress.net, to pressure them to drop the charges against journalists, for starters. This is a key point. When protesters and bystanders were illegally rounded up during the RNC convention four years ago in New York City, it was the journalists who were there documenting it all who were able to disprove blatant lies by the police that allowed the plaintiffs to win a huge settlement against the city. They are trying to get rid of the journalists for this very reason - let alone that they are stomping all over our constitutional rights to free speech!
See coverage about the protests that is sorely lacking in the main stream media at:
www.DemocracyNow.org
support the organization, reporters without borders: www.rsf.org
Without real freedom of the press, we have no other freedoms.

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Right
Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Sep 3, 2008 11:16 AM   
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I have a feeling MN is just the tip of the iceberg. Maybe its about time for the sheeple to stand up and say enough is enough. How much more will they take I wonder? I feel for them. Glad I left the US years ago never looking back.

Jeff
Whats hiding on your PC?

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» RE: ight Posted by: donl51
» Just One Question... Posted by: woodford54
Why hasn't Obama spoken out about this?
Posted by: Michael J. Harrington on Sep 3, 2008 11:48 AM   
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Why hasn't Obama spoken out about this?

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» Hugh Scott - the "war hero" Posted by: LionHeart
» Lionheart the GOP- Troll Posted by: donl51
One more black eye!
Posted by: LionHeart on Sep 3, 2008 12:22 PM   
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Not sure why the democrats are so violent when they demonstrate. Republicans by contrast seem much more civil! This is just another black eye for the democrats.

Funny how anti war protestors wouldn't hesitate to injure a cop. Such peaceful people!

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» Bullshit Posted by: Karina
» RE: One more black eye! Posted by: jareilly
» RE: One more black eye! Posted by: topbrick
Great advertising, GOP
Posted by: feduphoosier on Sep 3, 2008 3:46 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So this is the new GOP 'brand'? Come into a city and terrorize the residents, arrest journalists (ensuring that now all of us know about this - its bigger news than the BS going on inside,) and trample on the Constitution, the rule of law and Democracy in general?

Vote for you? Like hell. Can't think of anything less patriotic than voting for fascists.

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» RE: Great advertising, GOP Posted by: TheLimit
Fascists Run Rampant at the RNC
Posted by: DonnieBoy on Sep 3, 2008 3:54 PM   
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It's truly horrifying to read stories like this and know that it is happening in what is supposed to be the land of the free and the home of the brave. All the puffed up republicans sequestered inside their little convention shout and spew about freedom and being good Americans, when all the while innocent people are being arrested without cause, held without being formally charged, and being shot with pepper spray by the Fascists who are supposed to be protecting our civil rights. Looks like Mr. Bush and his gang of thugs got what they wanted - full and complete control of the law for their own means. They told us we would have to give our civil rights in order to be free and when they had completed that jack-booted dance on the Constitution, they made us all pay for ever thinking we could be truly free.

It may be funny in retrospect to be let out of jail knowing you finally got out of that mess without too much fuss, but what the St. Paul police are doing to deny free Americans their basic rights is treasonous. But hey, they have the law on their side, and the law says, "Fuck freedom. The 'haves' are in charge now so back off, or else."

Isn't there anyone who can help us now?

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» usterroristnation Posted by: usterroristnation
Under Seige But By Who
Posted by: 45014106 on Sep 3, 2008 4:11 PM   
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Saint Paul is under siege by a group of non residents who have no respect for property, law, or rights. We have had property damaged, shrubbery uprooted to block a road, and 6 of our school vehicles have had tires ruined by nails thrown on a nearby highway by demonstrators. This is not legitimate protest, this is vandalism. I am a life long DFLer, which for non Minnesotans is a liberal Minnesota Democrat, and I am shocked at the behavior of people who profess peace but practice violence.

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» Wow. Posted by: mercianomad
» RE: Under Seige But By Who Posted by: undrgrndgirl
» RE: Under Seige Posted by: donl51
» usterroristnation Posted by: usterroristnation
» RE: usterroristnation Posted by: donl51
» RE: usterroristnation Posted by: lindajrjt
This is Typical Now
Posted by: alicelillie on Sep 3, 2008 4:16 PM   
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We can no longer expect our rights to be respected by government at any level.

This isn't a free country any more, end of story.

Please see my blog at http://www.alicelillieandher.blogspot.com

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Walking while black..!
Posted by: TJColatrella on Sep 3, 2008 4:44 PM   
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Well he should have known better to be out walking while black..

What was he thinking..?

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Rights? What rights?
Posted by: willymack on Sep 3, 2008 5:14 PM   
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The bush thugs took them away from us, and we let "em do it, remember? Bush wanted a dictatorship, and by golly, he got one. Payback time is just a couple months away. It's not enough to sweep the bastards out of office; we owe it to ourselves and to future generations to put these roaches in jail for life and take further steps to ensure this tragedy never happens again.

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allen
Posted by: pursah on Sep 3, 2008 5:21 PM   
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Welcome to The Fourth Reich! Get the book, it is at Barnes and Noble. Get the book before they start burning books. Get the book before they start burning people. The USA has become the enemy it defeated.

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Recall local politicians and replace with enlightened leaders
Posted by: socrates2 on Sep 3, 2008 5:46 PM   
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Folks, it's much easier to control the jackboots locally than nationally.
It's called Recall. If everyone of you who lives in St. Paul gathers a couple of thousand signatures you can begin to beat this monstrosity at the grass roots level.
Recall the mayor, the councilpersons who went along with this farce and fire the chief.
It's _your city_ and it's _your taxes_ that pay for every inch of billy club, every molecule of tear gas, and every electron in those tazers. And every drop of fuel in each paddy wagon that rounded up people exercising their Constituonal guaranteed Right to Assemble.
Why should you have no say in when and how they are deployed and by whom?
It's your local government, St. Paulians! What's happening to you?
The cops are just more bureaucrats who need a salary and have mouths to feed. Or, as the joke goes:
Q: How does an American cop say, "I was just following orders."?
A: "Sorry, buddy, just doin' my job..."
And, after that digression: at election time replay videos of the display of dictatorial force against peaceful demonstrators. Exhibit 1, Amy Goodman's arrest.
And, some of the interviewees quoted in this piece will do quite nicely as witnesses.
No political action takes place at a blog site or sitting in front of one's computer and whining about it.
Where were you at the last MoveOn meeting?

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Fascist America
Posted by: EdinIowa on Sep 3, 2008 6:25 PM   
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“Fascism in America won’t come with jackboots, book burnings, mass rallies, and fevered harangues, nor will it come with black helicopters or tanks on the street. It won’t come like a storm—but as a break in the weather, that sudden change of season you might feel when the wind shifts on an October evening: Everything is the same, but everything has changed. Something has gone, departed from the world, and a new reality will have taken its place. All the old forms will still be there: legislatures, elections, campaigns—plenty of bread and circuses. But “consent of the governed” will no longer apply; actual control of the state will have passed to a small and privileged group who rule for the benefit of their wealthy peers and corporate patrons.

To be sure, there will be factional conflicts among the elite, and a degree of debate will be permitted; but no one outside the privileged circle will be allowed to influence state policy. Dissidents will be marginalized—usually by “the people” themselves. Deprived of historical knowledge by a thoroughly impoverished educational system designed to produce complacent consumers, left ignorant of current events by a corporate media devoted solely to profit, many will internalize the force-fed values of the ruling elite, and act accordingly. There will be little need for overt methods of control.

The rulers will act in secret, for reasons of “national security,” and the people will not be permitted to know what goes on in their name. Actions once unthinkable will be accepted as routine: government by executive fiat, state murder of “enemies” selected by the leader, undeclared wars, torture, mass detentions without charge, the looting of the national treasury, the creation of huge new “security structures” targeted at the populace. In time, this will be seen as “normal,” as the chill of autumn feels normal when summer is gone. It will all seem normal.”

— November 10, 2001
Moscow Times (English Edition)

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ALL OF YOU GO OUT AND DRAG IN VOTERS AND SERIOUSLY TRY TO GET THEM T0O VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Sep 3, 2008 9:38 PM   
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ticket. The worst democrat that ever lived is better than the best republican. Obama must poll 65% by halloween or lose.

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RNC is all about covering up and smothering descent...
Posted by: Bearzerker on Sep 4, 2008 2:50 AM   
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... before it comes out that the problems are emanating from policies they introduced and fanned!

once they get the boot this November... theirs will be the loudest voice against this form of fascism and will be blaming the new power elites... for policies they themselves established!

and you wonder why the entire RNC and GOP entire are all so irrelevant these days

US Politics makes me ill

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CHECK THIS!!!
Posted by: zoonerian on Sep 4, 2008 11:36 AM   
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This is why young people who want a chance to realize their American Dream(s) MUST vote Obama. Mc Cain is not yet president and look what's going on already. The writing is on the wall, people! DO NOT VOTE FOR THAT SENILE OLD FART! Wake up and Wise up!!!

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ACLU working hard to protect free speech
Posted by: RMyers on Sep 4, 2008 12:56 PM   
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FYI, the ACLU of Minnesota has coordinated legal defense for several of the journalists arrested at the RNC and assembled teams of lawyers to be in the booking centers making sure everyone gets the legal services they need. They also provided limited defense for hundreds of people rounded up in the mass arrests at the arraignment yesterday and will continue to defend many whose constitutional rights have been violated. And this morning they filed a federal lawsuit demanding the release of private property confiscated during Monday's raids. I assure you they have been working around the clock.

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Problems
Posted by: blogbooks on Sep 6, 2008 4:36 PM   
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1. Too many of your supporters are women. Women are fundamentally worthless in combat. You need fighters, not people that cry when a policemen yells at them.

2. Too many of you are anti-gun and anti-second amendment. Although, I am happy to see many of you realizing that "political power grows out of the barrel of a gun", as they say. Maybe you're slowly waking up to reality and understand that you will never change this world through peaceful means.

Shaping reality requires more than a powerful will, it requires powerful action.

3. Most Americans are out of shape cowards. Disorganized and weak. This is one of the most easily controllable civilian populations in the history of human civilization. A bunch of obese, sedentary office drones with diabetes.

4. Give up, it's hopeless. They'll have to literally start massacring us by the tens of thousands before anything changes.

Sadly, that might happen.

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