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Rights and Liberties

As Unlawful Arrests Continue, St. Paul Feels Like a City Under Siege for Some Residents

By Liliana Segura, AlterNet. Posted September 3, 2008.


"It's like we don't have rights. Like we don't even live here."
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Sitting outside the Black Dog cafe in lower St. Paul late Tuesday morning, a lanky kid in dreadlocks and a black Bob Marley T-shirt stopped, asked me for a light, and sat down next to me. It was drizzly and gray, and eerily quiet. The night before, nearly 300 people had been arrested by Minnesota police in a sweeping display of brute force. Among them were journalist Amy Goodman and two Democracy Now! producers, both of whom were physically assaulted. With helicopters overheard and the National Guard out, it felt like a city under siege.

I asked the guy if he lived in St. Paul. "Yeah." It turned out he lives next door, in the building where I've been staying, an artist's co-op on Broadway Street. I was about to ask him what he thought about the scene here when he sort of laughed and said, "Yeah, you know -- I was just arrested."

At around 9:45 that morning, John, 20, was walking home from the bank a few blocks away when he spotted what he thought was a police riot club -- a ubiquitous weapon on the streets here. "It was right off of West 7th Street in, like, a planter; I checked it out but it ended up being a broomstick." He put it down and kept walking, when suddenly he was surrounded by police officers -- "three squad for sure, maybe four" -- one of whom was a woman. "She was like, 'Get on your stomach or I'm gonna tase you!'" He asked them what he had done, but they wouldn't say. Instead, they asked him leading questions about other people they'd just arrested. "They said, 'so, who was in the white van you were associated with?" "I was like, white van? I don't know what you're talking about."

John said he hasn't done any anti-war organizing -- "I'd like to" -- but since the arrival of the RNC and the protesters against it, he has been checking out the scene around town. "Yesterday I was just cruising around. I was in the Funk the War march -- they had this huge Gandhi statue and a globe …" But despite the mostly peaceful protests, when it comes to security, "it's been crazy." He showed me videos he'd taken on his phone while he skated around, lines of cops in riot gear -- "There was a bunch of people getting maced over there" -- and shots of the buses and unmarked minivans the police have used to detain people and take them away.

I asked him if he had been read his rights. "No, they didn't read me my Miranda rights at all. ... They cuffed me, and when I complained to one one guy about the cuffs being too tight, he was like, 'Oh yeah? Well, let me tighten that up for you.'"

While he kept asking why they were arresting him, John did not resist -- "I was really cooperative; I didn't want to be held" -- but he did remember something he had been given at one of the marches. "Finally I pulled this out," he said, showing me a slip of paper that read, "ACLU Important Contact Information." "Yeah, you should hold onto that," one of the cops told him.

"They held me right down over there," he said, pointing north. "It's, like, the St. Paul police station." They confiscated and searched his belongings but forgot his cell phone in his pocket. "They put me in a cell that had snot and blood all over the wall," he told me, pulling out his phone and showing me footage of the stained white walls. He was given no phone call.


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How can I say this?
Posted by: The Old Hippie on Sep 3, 2008 2:39 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
 
Welcome to the America you allowed.

"Those within history see it the least."

Can't say we weren't warned...

“They that can give up essential liberty
to purchase a little temporary safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
-- Benjamin Franklin
 

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» RE: How can I say this? Posted by: dmaciewski
» RE: How can I say this? Posted by: The Old Hippie
» Oh let him alone Posted by: EinMD
» RE: Oh let him alone Posted by: Cybershaman
» I agree, but Posted by: WhuThe?!?
Tiananmen Square comes to Minnestota
Posted by: bulbman on Sep 3, 2008 3:29 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Meet the new boss.

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How do you fight for your rights?
Posted by: ErHoff on Sep 3, 2008 3:45 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So if the police are breaking the law grievously, who do you turn to? Do Americans have to begin vigilantism against the police in places like St Louis like the patriots that fought the armed redcoats? I was never one to tie the 2nd amendment to individual arsenals in civilized cities, however St Louis is not, IS NOT a civilized city. If the people have no legal redress against uniformed goon squads, should the citizens sit by or decide on other means to protect their rights.

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» You mean they are "just following orders"? Posted by: photon's feather
Can you hear it, St. Paul police -- that incredible ROARING SOUND?
Posted by: Obama2008Fan on Sep 3, 2008 3:54 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It's being made by all the U.S. soldiers, sailors and airmen who died for our freedom -- spinning in their graves.

Obama Fan
Reasons for voting against Insane McCain

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» Hugh Scott..... Posted by: LionHeart
Outright Police State Fascism
Posted by: Last Chance on Sep 3, 2008 4:05 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
In view of the illegal arrests outside the RNC Convention it should be clear that if John McCain enters the White House he will trash the Constitution even worse than Bush.

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The ACLU absent?
Posted by: Libsrule on Sep 3, 2008 4:08 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Does ANYONE know if the ACLU has been doing anything?

I've been a member (money only) since 1985 thanks to Ronnie Raygun but I'd sure like to know my money is being spent to stop this sort of thing or at least start bringing the cops to court on this transgression of our rights.

This is pure Communist China and Soviet Union tactics. Are ALL the cops that blind to what they are doing?

Or do they all have the mentality that this is a good way to go beat up people and get away with it??

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» Does it exist? Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: Does it exist? Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: The ACLU absent? Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: The ACLU absent? Posted by: LMNOP
» RE: The ACLU absent? Posted by: KurtFF8
» RE: The ACLU absent? Posted by: LionHeart
» Hugh Scott - the "war hero" Posted by: LionHeart
» Hugh Scott.... Posted by: LionHeart
» RE: The ACLU absent? Posted by: beautifulady2003
» RE: The ACLU absent? Posted by: RMyers
I am too frightened to write the Mayor
Posted by: terradea42 on Sep 3, 2008 4:50 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Or say what I really feel. I do not want to be arrested and jailed. I have been chilled.

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» If they're coming Posted by: EinMD
» RE: I am too frightened to write the Mayor Posted by: QuestionAuthority
» Hmm. Good Technique. Posted by: grumble-bum
» RE: I am too frightened to write the Mayor Posted by: wefearwhatwedontunderstand
This is not a free society
Posted by: lclark on Sep 3, 2008 5:32 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It's straightfoward:
- You no longer have the right of assembly or free speech.
- A 'Free Speech Zone' is an absurdity
- Police are no longer 'Peace Officers' but instruments of an overbearing elite. They are overly outfitted with weapons of force and dressed in black to encourage aggression on their part and intimidation to citizens.
- What was once commonly understood as expressions of civil disobedience has been criminized. Look at the 'Patriot' Act. It defines what was once civil disobediance as 'terrorism'.
- The laws have become burdonsome and are crafted to ensure the protection of the political elite and the corportocracy from responsibility to citizens.
- It sad what has evolved in this country that the managed corporate news proclaims as the place of freedom and democracy while we are further tagged and intimidated by gangsters and bullies that have consolidated power, seen the productive capacity of the country trasferred to a (overt) totalitarian country, and seen propaganda and outright lies used to use the remaining wealth and health ( read depleted uranium) of citizens to attempt a resource grab in other parts of the planet.

Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats will revamp the creation of energy in this country and free us from dependence on corporate con trolled oil...they will keep their hand on the spigot and citizens on a tether. Nor will you see the Democrats rescind the government spying on citizens, the draconian Patriot Act, or the Bankruptcy and credit laws passed to exploit us.

A sad end to the American revolution.

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» RE: This is not a free society Posted by: clvngodess
this is just the rehearsal folks
Posted by: twoten on Sep 3, 2008 5:33 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
All those bright shiny new jail cells being built all over Amerika, who do you think they're for? This is just a test run, it's gonna happen fast now, November is just a few months away. You had your chance to move to Canada, now you'll be trapped behind the Nazi-GOP curtain. Only a few weeks left, do you have the guts to get out now?

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» TOO LATE TO GET OUT NOW Posted by: edgeofnowhere
The police activity is awful
Posted by: michellet612 on Sep 3, 2008 5:42 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I've been following one of the stories of police brutality for my blog-

http://www.vitalsourcemag.com/index.php/blogs/michelle/

It's crazy awful out there.

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Just Practice For The Expected Mass Civil Disorder Across The World
Posted by: opmoc on Sep 3, 2008 5:42 AM   
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The Powers that be - and by that I am not talking about the elected governments - but those who are really in control - are planning to significantly reduce World Energy Supplies. This isn't because of Peak Oil (which is a myth that will be used to sell the action) - but due to planned mass human depopulation.

Switching off energy is the one thing that will get people off their arses to protest - because without energy nothing works in our cities - where most people live.

In The UK - even Parking Wardens are being trained to prepare for civil disorder.

You ain't seen nothing yet - and UK police can be even worse than US cops - and have had lots of practice.

It won't make any difference who wins the US elections - if anything the Dems are even keener on switching the energy off.

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» planned mass human depopulation?? Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» RE: planned mass human depopulation?? Posted by: wefearwhatwedontunderstand
Wait Until the Lawsuits
Posted by: WhutDaFun on Sep 3, 2008 6:02 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Whether or not the people of St. Paul are concerned about this, I hope they understand that a lot of their tax dollars are going to pay for the inevitable lawsuits (i.e. New York, 2004 RNC convention)

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» RE: Wait Until the Lawsuits Posted by: Last Chance
St. Paul will be the whole country ...
Posted by: nc green on Sep 3, 2008 6:50 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
... after four more years of Republican rule. At least the Grand Old Party doesn't try to hide its fascism. It goes to a liberal city and takes it over, lock, stock and barrel. It beats and arrests citizens and throws them in jail for no reason. It detains journalists illegally.

And the Heartland laughs, cheers and marks its ballot, "Republican."

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Wrong Place for Convention
Posted by: COinms on Sep 3, 2008 6:52 AM   
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Since the Republican party has largely become a southern based religious party, they should have had the convention in Jackson, MS -- my state. There would have been no protests; Hailey Barbour would make sure of that. This deeply red state would be a safe place for the GOP. Citizens would probably take up arms and defend the convention against those libruls and commies and demoncrats that might show up to protest.

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Senior Cynic
Posted by: rdodell on Sep 3, 2008 8:26 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
We are guilty of allowing the current elitist clan to thrive in the U.S and across the entire planet. Where the elite go, their hob-nailed boots go ahead to protect them from us
"commoners" and "serfs" who may threaten their extravagant, luxurious lifestyles. For any who need proof, Incidents at the RNC are solid evidence. Those who witnessed Amy Goodman's report (Democracy Now) will attest that events in Minneapolis/St. Paul make Hitler's 1939 Germany look like a garden party. An apathetic, complacent citizenry has spawned corruption in government, runaway capitalism, and rampant materialism. Edmund Burke declared, "ALL THAT IS NECESSARY FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING". Could it be that we are in the process of reaping the bitter crop we have sowed over the past 40 years?

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» RE: Senior Cynic Posted by: mnstra
» usterroristnation Posted by: usterroristnation
'Deja Vu all Over again' Yogi's Insight
Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 3, 2008 8:56 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Have we seen this 'Movie' before. Was it in English, at Kent State.Or did it have subtitles, In Chinese & German. Maybe we saw it in a Scroll or a Hieroglyphic???
That is what Yogi really revealed in that statement. When you've seen it before and still do nothing to change the Outcome.
Same definition for Insanity (Or Stupidity)- doing the same behavior over & over and expecting a different result.
The Republican party was conquered decades ago and is still under the same 'Boys' who fucked it up back then.Cheney,Rumsfeld, Wolfie and their cast of accomplices and minions.
We need to not only Make sure Mac does NOT win in Nov...But all these National Traitors , war criminals are convicted of ALL their crimes against Humanity.
want to Watch Corps & Gov't Figures straighten their shit out fast....Punish a few to the fullest extent of the Law.
Industry and Gov't are Tools which are to serve Man (Created BY Man), Not the other way around.
We will not sit back as 'Rome' conquers our People & land, As Marie eats cake and we starve, As Hitler passes Judgemnt on our neighbors Worth, as Cheney Corps Steals and sells OUR country to the Highest Bidder, as another conquest!

Let's Set a Precedence and a Deterent

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Report from the 101st Fighting Keyboardists at the RNC
Posted by: siribear on Sep 3, 2008 9:11 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Hey, people, quit your whining! We're out here, in the streets, DOING something about the police brutality. We have a crisis counseling & first aid center, people are doing jail support, calling the Sherrif's office and demanding care for the tasered, beaten and peppersprayed. We're working to get the word out to the media.

If you just whine about the police state without DOING SOMETHING, you're as guilty of opening the door to repression as anyone else.

Here's what you can do: Call your local media...TV...Newspapers...and DEMAND that they offer coverage of the police riots in St. Paul.

Thank you! -S-

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GET USED TO IT . . .
Posted by: newsound on Sep 3, 2008 9:35 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Get used to it! You are seeing a preview of the next 4 to 8 years. Hoping for change will do nothing. The Repubs have had 8 years to put the wheels in motion and they are not about to hand it over to a "liberal" president. McCain WILL win, thanks to a close enough vote for Diebold to fudge the ballots and America will then stay the course that has been planned since the late 90's. Wake up!!

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» WHAT liberal president? Posted by: photon's feather
Busy on the 10 Commandments
Posted by: rascal on Sep 3, 2008 9:38 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Don't you know the ACLU is busy getting the Ten Commandments taken down and moving nativity scenes off of state property to worry with something as trivial as human rights.

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» RE: Busy on the 10 Commandments Posted by: LionHeart
» RE: Busy on the 10 Commandments Posted by: buschthebearrefreshing
Well,we all know that law enforcement are Rethug!
Posted by: donl51 on Sep 3, 2008 9:38 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...Well now they're Nazis's not a distant move when you look at whats been happening,!!look and listen to our own people complaining about every fucking thing but mostly about our safety from those who'd like to see America dead!!and we're falling right into that ''perfect'' trap!!next will be Marshal Law,Bush will become the Dictator he aspires to be,and Laura will bat her eyes and tell us all what a good man her husband is and that he's doing this for our safety!....and guess what!..most Americans will accept it because they've become too stupid ,or complacent or just to handicapped mentally to do shit!!hell most of us out here are fighting to just keep our heads above water!..I stopped trusting our Fed. Gov.when I was in Vietnam,and the lower branches followed as I grew older....for our supposed safety ''which is an orchestrated crock of shit'' we've become a police state,w/it's prohibitions on everything !!

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