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Rights and Liberties

Anti-Immigrant Republican Brian Bilbray's Bizarre Crusade on the 14th Amendment

By Rhonda Brownstein, Southern Poverty Law Center. Posted September 1, 2008.


Since 1995, U.S. Rep. Bilbray (R-Calif.) has tried to deny American citizenship to children born in the United States of non-citizen parents.
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In almost every session of congress he has been part of since 1995, U.S. Rep. Brian Bilbray (R-Calif.) has unsuccessfully sponsored a law that aims to deny American citizenship to children born in the United States of non-citizen parents. His persistence is not a surprise: Bilbray is a former lobbyist for the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a right-wing, anti-immigrant group that paid him almost $300,000 to lobby on its behalf between 2002 and 2005, and has headed the hard-line Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus since early last year. The current version of Bilbray's perennially losing legislation is called the Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007.

Still, it seems strange that Rep. Bilbray would sponsor such a bill, given that his own mother was a non-citizen. But Bilbray carved out an exception that would conveniently apply to him -- that a child born in the U.S. is considered a citizen so long as at least one parent is (1) a citizen; (2) a lawful permanent resident; or (3) in active military service. Bilbray's father was a U.S. citizen.

Even if Bilbray could manage to get his bill enacted into law, it would almost certainly be struck down as unconstitutional. The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside." It would take a constitutional amendment, not a mere act of Congress, to deny citizenship to those born on U.S. soil.

Bilbray claims that his bill is simply advancing an interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment -- as Congress is permitted to do under its power to enact laws to enforce the Constitution -- rather than proposing a change that would require the very difficult and extended process of amending the Constitution. The crux of his tortured argument is that the Fourteenth Amendment clause "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" denies citizenship to American-born children whose parents "owe allegiance to another country." Not surprisingly, Bilbray is not specific about what that phrase means.

But as the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service found: "Although the primary aim of the Fourteenth Amendment was to secure citizenship for African Americans, the debates on the citizenship provisions of the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Fourteenth Amendment indicate that they were intended to extend U.S. citizenship to all persons born in the U.S. and subject to its jurisdiction, regardless of race, ethnicity, or alienage of the parents" (emphasis added).

Though some senators raised concerns about the amendment creating a large influx of Chinese immigrants, they ultimately concluded that the children of immigrants from any country would be U.S. citizens so long as they were born in the United States. (The senators debating the amendment believed that it did not, however, grant citizenship to American Indians, who were subject to the jurisdiction of their own tribes.)

More than a century of case law backs this reading of the amendment. In 1898, in the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, the Supreme Court declared that a child born in the United States was a citizen, even though his parents were Chinese aliens who were ineligible for naturalization. The high court explicitly rejected the argument Bilbray and FAIR continue to make -- that the Chinese citizenship of his parents made a child "subject to the jurisdiction of" China. The court also rejected Bilbray's claim that Congress has the power to alter the definition of citizenship, stating that the Fourteenth Amendment "has conferred no authority upon Congress to restrict the effect of birth, declared by the Constitution to constitute a sufficient and complete right to citizenship."

Bilbray likes to cite the 1884 Supreme Court case of Elk v. Wilkins, which denied citizenship to a Native American. But the Court's analysis in Elk -- which was later overturned by statute -- was completely different. In Elk, the Court held that American Indians who had not been naturalized by treaty were not citizens because they were members of an independent political community to whom they still owed their immediate allegiance, and were therefore not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. American Indians later became citizens through various statutes and treaties, culminating in the Nationality Act of 1940, which declared all American Indians born in the United States to be U.S. citizens.

Most Americans agree that sensible immigration reform is needed. But Bilbray and the interest groups that support him -- members of the board of directors of FAIR, which also seeks to dismantle the Fourteenth Amendment, gave him some $10,000 in campaign contributions in 2006 -- are seeking to overturn a fundamental right long ago accorded to those born in our country. Reforming a broken immigration system does not require punishing innocent children for the infractions of their undocumented parents, most of whom came to this country merely to seek a better life.

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Rhonda Brownstein is the director of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Legal Department.

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Look at Ireland
Posted by: redjade on Sep 1, 2008 3:57 AM   
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Ireland, as part of the peace process, made it so everyone born on the island could be a citizen of the republic of Ireland - even Ian Paisley if he so wished could have an Irish passport.

The Neo-Liberal Right and Conservative Catholic Right in the Rep of Ireland worked together to change the Irish Constitution to a blood-line based citizenship and no longer location based.

They did this by stirring up falsehoods and exaggerations posed by asylum seekers from Africa. The national referendum passed by 80%.

No more 'Cead mile failte' from Ireland - it was a sad day to see xenophobia and racism win over in a country that should have known better.

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» RE: Good. I’m all for... Posted by: ranchero42
» But I'm not. Posted by: -matti
» RE: But I'm not. Posted by: ranchero42
» RE: But I'm not. Posted by: MdeG
» RE: Good. I’m all for it. Posted by: katz22br
» RE: Good. I’m all for it. Posted by: One American Lady
» RE: Good. I’m all for it. Posted by: Old Skeptic
Seems like a good idea ;)
Posted by: AlterEg0 on Sep 1, 2008 7:12 AM   
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I suggest we all start packing now, as only the Native Americans will have the citizenship intact. The rest of us start migrating back, because we were born of immigrants that were children of immigrants. Most of us have dual or triple heritage, our forefathers/foremothers not being native to this continent at all.

Oh, and make sure to see Mr. Bilbray to his plane, so he can go to wherever he belongs.

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» RE: Seems like a good idea ;) Posted by: European American
» Rule of Power Posted by: European American
» RE: Seems like a good idea ;) Posted by: One American Lady
Who would work then?
Posted by: bonzi on Sep 1, 2008 7:48 AM   
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It would be interesting if undocumented workers could be organized to mount a strike for several days: nobody to pick your tomatoes, wash your laundry, work dirty jobs in hotels and restaurants, build your houses, drive taxis. They are coming because you need them.

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» RE: Who would work then? Posted by: One American Lady
» How about posting something readable? Posted by: countingdaisies
It's Too Late.
Posted by: Last Chance on Sep 1, 2008 8:08 AM   
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The population is already shifting in favor of Latin Americans and soon they will be the ruling majority in several Western states and a growing minority in the others. To accomodate myself to this inevitability, I am learning to speak and write Spanish.

This is a natural phenomenon. When the Europeans invaded these two continents we call North and South America, most of the native peoples were obliged to learn the languages of their conquerors, English, Spanish, Portuguese and French.

It has been the same throughout history, and now citizens of the USA are in a similar situation. Soon Anglo-Americans will be a minority in what used to be their own country, like the Native Americans before them.

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» Allow me to nit-pick ;) Posted by: -matti
Native American Indians...Are They a "Full-Blood" Tribe ??
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 1, 2008 8:40 AM   
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By the Time the Founding Fathers, were Establishing the Constitutional Government,
WHITEMEN, MARRIED THE DAUGHTERS, OF THE CHIEFS OF THE NATIVE INDIAN TRIBES.
Why?? Consider this: "To Bring the Indians, to a Position of ...Being More Civilized...& the Fact of the Matter: THE GOVERNMENT *NEEDED THE NATURAL RESOURCES, WHICH THE NATIVE INDIAN TRIBES, HAD...WITHIN THEIR *CONTROL* !!"
"Only *Educated Men* Married these Daughters of the Indian Chiefs".
Consider this: "The Three Folsom Brothers, Nathiel Folsom born 1750's in North Carolina
married a Daughter from *Each Chief* of the Two Ancient Indian *Clans*...married them,
by 1778....BEFORE THE CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT WAS ACCEPTED INTO LAW...BEFORE THE TREATY OF PARIS OF 1783...BEFORE A "FIRST PRESIDENT WAS ELECTED FOR AMERICA"...Which Means, the Land of America, Was a Republic Type
of Government.
Nathaniel Folsom's Ancestory is from England, the area of Foulesham, England.
Nathaniel is a Whiteman, & "fathered 28 Children (4 died), by the Two Wives of Native Indian Ancestory.
By the 1820's HE LED "HIS PEOPLE" TO THE RESERVATION LAND...OF (OKLAHOMA) INDIAN TERRITORY..."BRINGING WITH HIM & THE OTHER TRIBES,*OVER ONE MILLION SLAVES", FARM EQUIPMENT, BARNYARD ANIMALS, HOGS, ETC. &
Were These People Poor ?? (Not, if they had so Much Prosperity, coming with them.)
Thousands of White People, also came with them, as Christian Leaders / School Teachers /
Guides / & they held other Positions of Power.
WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE END OF THE RACE..."IT IS A ...MIXED RACE...OF WHITE / INDIAN / BLACK HERITAGE.
(These are True Facts of History).
This is the Tribe, which was to be Known as the
Chotah / Choctaw Tribe.
Since 1778, when the Three Whitemen, married those Daughters of Native Indian Ancestory, this Tribe is of a "Mixed Race"... JUST THE
WAY THE FOUNDING FATHERS, WANTED THE INDIAN TRIBES TO BE, "ESPECIALLY, AFTER THE DEATH OF (PRESIDENT) GEORGE WASHINGTON.".
No Founding Fathers or the Signers of the Declaration of Independence..."Believed in the Owning of Any Human Being".
One American Lady

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» Do you know proper grammar? Posted by: countingdaisies
"Did (President) George Washington, *Really, Chop Down a Cherry Tree" ??
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 1, 2008 9:02 AM   
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Consider This: "Before George Washington, was of the Age of 18 / 19, He Became, Seriously Ill, with *Smallpox*...& this Serious Illness, caused George to Be *Sterile (unable to bear children...the reason, no history can be found that he fathered any children)".
He had No Cherry of Life...with Which to Replenish the Earth...so HE MADE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA "HIS PEOPLE / HIS FAMILY".
Do you think George Washington, would have "condoned anyone to tease him, esp. in public, about this Private Matter ??" Probably Not, "thus the Development of the Story of *Chopping Down the Cherry Tree*, began.
Consider this though:"Thousands of Taxpayers Dollars, have been Spent, Paying School Teachers, to *Teach This Story, of How George Washington, Chopped Down the Cherry Tree*."
(Did this Axe, be the Original Weapon?...It couldn't be, if the Story of the Sterility Due to a Serious Illness, is verified as Truth, which so far, it has.
One American Lady
(Cousin to George Washington, thru the Montague - Ball Ancestory)

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» Do you proofread before posting? Posted by: countingdaisies
To All the Women, Who Serve as a "Wet-Nurse".& Mothers, Around the World...
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 1, 2008 9:23 AM   
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IN THE DAYS OF WHEN MY MOTHER LIVED...SHE SERVED AS A:
*Undertaker (preparating the dead for burial)
*Veterinarian (Doctoring Animals)
*Surgeon to Animals (of all kinds, farm / ranch animals, used for Labor on these places.
*Law Enforcement Officer..."made a Believer, out of a person, who were Abusers, etc....so they Wouldn't Want to Commit a Crime / Abuse anyone.
*Wet Nurse...children in North Carolina & in
the State of Oklahoma 1940's to 1960.
(Wet Nurse's Serve as Providers of Breast Milk, to Babies of Women, who Cannot Produce Healthy or Very Little Breast Milk, for their
Newborns)
Note: My mother, grew up, living among the Freedmen (Choctaw) People of Eastern Oklahoma,
& she had learned Much About Birthing Children & many other Facets of Careers, education skills, from the Women & Men of the Freedmen Status.
*Professional Fundraiser
*HomeHealth Administrator (before Homehealth Agencies became so widespread).
*Helping Youth Be Employed (Helping Neighbors / Townspeople.
*Gardening & "Planting By the Moon Signs"
*Building Wagons & a Buggy
*Making Saddles & Sets of Harness
*Growing Large Crops of Produce
*Skilled Nursing Care
*Being Orphaned as a Young Child / Youth
She & the Women of Color..."nursed (breast-fed) many of the local Newborns, in the areas, at that time"... as they were needed.
"Women of Color, (the Slaves), Birthed Many A Baby of the Native American Indian Tribes & also, Birthed Many Babies of White Ancestory & Black Heritage, as well."
The Greatness of "Women of Color"...was a Needed Asset, to America, & the People, of this Land, from the time they came to America...to the Time, They became Freed (Men & Women & Children), & Yet, Today, They are
Not of a Priority for Benefits...not even for the Native American Indian Tribes, of which their Ancestors, were "Adopted as Citizens".
Wet-Nurses, are an Asset...once a Complete Health Exam, & I would imagine, a Medical History as Paved the Way, for that to happen.
One American Lady

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The Bilbrey / Bilbray, Families, have been around, since the 1600's, in America...
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 1, 2008 9:41 AM   
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The Bilbrey / Bilbray, Families, are of the "Original Heritage of America"... the 13-Colonies.
The Bilbrey / Bilbray People & the Copeland /
Coplen, etc....intermarried.
The Copeland Men, were, during the 1600's / 1700's, 7'5" / 350 - 400 lbs...& strong men,
who could "lift a Mule w/Rider & set them, over the fence"...so History Goes.
The Copeland People, were "Real Estate" People, among other occupations, Before coming to America. Thus their name of "de Coupe de Lande".
Some of these People, Were "Makers of Silverware"...USING "THEIR OWN TALENTS & SKILLS" WITH WHICH ...TO *SUPPORT THEMSELVES*".
Interesting Part of History, when One Studies the Beginning of Our Government Leaders & the Citizens of the 13-Colonies.
One American Lady

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One Thing Neo-cons Know Is Numbers
Posted by: ranchero42 on Sep 1, 2008 10:01 AM   
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And they're not reproducing fast enough to even replace the tribe. Quite risky, when you consider first generation Americans tend to vote for those who don't try shipping their relatives to their birthplace.

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» RE: One Thing Neo-cons Know Is Numbers Posted by: One American Lady
If a Law, Existed, preventing babies of Illegal Aliens, to bcome Citizens, then:
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 1, 2008 10:16 AM   
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Couldn't the Women...who were "limited in Giving Birth"..."file a lawsuit"...
IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, FOR OUR GOVERNMENT...TO "FORCE BIRTH CONTROL LAWS"ON THE FEMALES OF OUR COUNTRY (USA), & ALLOW WOMEN OF ILLEGAL STATUS, TO BE IN OUR COUNTRY..
(USA) & BIRTH AS MANY BABIES, AS THEY WANT TO:
& the Baby, Automatically Become a "Citizen by Birth".
The way I see it, The USA, has Three Types of Citizens for sure:
*Citizens, of the "Original Heritage of USA...
the 13-Colonies.
*Citizens "by Document, from the U.S. Government."
*Citizenship...by Birth...(just because a baby is born, in America).
NOTE:THOSE PEOPLE OF AMERICA...OF THE 13-COLONIES...ARE OF "ALL THREE TYPES OF CITIZENSHIP.
"Interesting Facts, Huh?
Especially, When a Candidate, for the Seat of the U.S. Presidency, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE "OF THE *ORIGINAL HERITAGE OF AMERICA*...THE 13-COLONIES.!!!
WAS THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR..FOUGHT & WON, IN VAIN ???
AMERICA, LOST A LOT OF SOLDIERS, IN THAT WAR.. FOR "INDEPENDENCE FOR AMERICA, & THE PEOPLE, THEREIN"...& "THERE'S NO CREDIT, FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE *ORIGINAL HERITAGE OF AMERICA*,
& THESE PEOPLE (INCLUDING ME), ARE A *SPECIAL BREED OF PEOPLE*...Lots of Us, the Descendants of those Brave Soldiers, are living today... BUT ARE WE *STANDING-UP, AS OUR ANCESTORS DID* TO DEFEND OUR CONSITUTIONAL RIGHTS ???"
Shows How Liberal...the U.S. Congress Leaders,
have been for many years now in "interpretation of the Constitution of America & the Bill of Rights".
(Those Who Fought & Gained...Won the War..which Brought Us, "Independence", as a Nation...BUT "NOT AS A....SEPARATE COUNTRY".)
Note: Check Out the Treaty of Paris 1783.
(It's an Agreement, to where "Those Foreign Countries, who were Part of That Agreement, Would Not Be At War, on American Land...in
Disagreement, with them).
Those Foreign Countries, Also, Gave / Allowed
for Certain Rights, to the Natural Resources /
Land / Waters, in America.
In that Agreement, the Native Indians, might Not Have Been "Taken into Consideration".
(The Whitemen, had Already, been Married, into the Native Indian Tribes, by / Before 1783...
so THE NATIVE INDIANS...as long as "One Native Indian, married a Whiteman, who is of the Ancestory of the Foreign Country, Represented, in that Treaty of Paris...THAT "ONE INDIAN" SET THE "PRECEDENCE FOR LAW"...for this part of the Land / Waters / Government, of the Native Indian Tribes & the "Mixed Race", Most of Them ...became.
DON'T EVER "UNDERSTIMATE THE *POWERS THAT BE* OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS....THEY *KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING* IN *ALL PHASES OF GOVERNMENT / LAW / POLITICS* FOR THE "BEST INTEREST OF ALL PEOPLE / CITIZENS OF AMERICA".
One American Lady
(who Researches / Studies, History of America
& of the Families of the 13-Colonies...the Republic of America & of the Government of the
United States).

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HOW MUCH LAND, IS THERE, LEGALLY, FOR THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, TO STAND ON, IN AMERICA?
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 1, 2008 10:25 AM   
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Imagine This: George Washington & Most, if Not All, the Founding Fathers, Were Surveyors.
George Washington & the Founding Fathers, "set the laws / constitutional laws, rules & regulations for Townsites, the Measurements & Requirements for the Government for Each of Them.
After the Constitutional Laws, were Accepted,
& Territories, began to become States, a Townsite Company (one or more of them), would
Measure / Plat, Map a Townsite.
Guess This: "TOWNSITES, WERE MEASURED, *EVERY 5-MILES* APART"...ACROSS THE LAND.
"THIS IS THE LAND, SET ASIDE FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND / OR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES".
And THERE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN "ANY HOMELESSNESS IN AMERICA"...WITH ALL THIS LAND, AVAILABLE, FOR HOUSING PURPOSES.
(It pays to study History, & know if the U.S. Congress Leaders, Are Really, "Your Voice in Congress, for the Best Interest...OF THE PEOPLE".
One American Lady

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THE DIFFERENCE, Between: Townsites / Cities / Colonies of People or Businesses:
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 1, 2008 10:38 AM   
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Townsites, were Measured "Every 5-Miles Apart" at Least in the State of Oklahoma, they are.
Note: Also, each Townsite, is located, where a Native Indian Family, lived, & oftentimes, the Townsite, was Named after the Indian Family...whose HomePlace, was of their Family.
In Each Townsite, there was "Always, One Plot of Dirt, Set Aside, for the Business of Government for the Townsite...the Town Hall, plot of dirt."
Some Townsites, were larger than others, had More Blocks / bigger or smaller Lots, in Each Block of Land.
Townsites, could be Residential / Commercial or both.
Townsites / Cities / Colonies of People, have a Similiar By-Law, structure.
Just Because a "City, is Incorporated...doesn't mean *they have a Residential Association, as Part of those By-Laws*
A CITY GOVERNMENT, MUST DESIGNATE, IF THEY ARE GOVERNING *COMMERCIAL / RESIDENTIAL* OR BOTH...
"but, When There is an Incorporation, Registered with the State...it Becomes *Equal Status* as that of *Another Public Agency, Registered with the State*...
(such as a Townsite, Town Government is Approved as an Entity of It's Owned, Governed by the Governor of the State... & the Town
Government, has Equal Status of Public Service, as that of DHS Agency...except that DHS has a National Status, & a Townsite is "within the boundary of a State".
(Some Federal Laws, govern Townsites, Incorporation, thereof".)
U.S.Congress...even that of the Founding Fathers, Era..passed Federal Laws, concerning Towns & Establishment thereof.
One American Lady
(who studies History of Land / Families, who Lived / were Early Settlers)

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WHEN A BABY IS BORN TO A MOTHER, WHO IS "NOT A LEGAL CITIZEN OF AMERICA", can this happen?
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 1, 2008 11:54 AM   
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When a Baby is Born to a Non-American-Born Parent, "Does that Illegal Parent, have the *Right* to *Act on Behalf of that Child ??*"
If so, How? Would it classify her, so that "she can be Court Appointed to Act, on Behalf of that Baby (Citizen of America)...to have the Same Privileges, as a Citizen, by:
*Original Heritage / *by Legal Document / From American Born Female.
IF THIS IS SO, "THAT THE BIRTH MOTHER OF THE CHILD, CAN *ACT ON BEHALF OF THAT CHILD* & that Birth Mother, has any money FROM ANY RESOURCE (HER OWN FOREIGN COUNTRY OR ELSE ??),
Suppose this Could Happen TO YOU, A PROPERTY OWNER, IN AMERICA:
"Land in America, THAT IS PART OF A TOWNSITE,
THAT IS AN *UN-INCORPORATED*TOWN, can possibly, Be Sold to (????), RIGHT OUT FROM UNDER THE CONTROL OF THAT CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER.
And, What Can You, the Resident / U.S. Citizen
do??? GO TO COURT & FIGHT TO KEEP YOUR PROPERTY
OR "TAKE THE PRICE, OFFERED TO YOU, FOR YOUR
HOME, YOUR LAND...THAT YOU / YOUR FAMILY MIGHT HAVE RESIDED ON, FOR MANY YEARS."
"A *Wake-Up Call* for Americans" who own Land.
(Check Out the Abstract, on Your Property, IT'S ALL THERE, IN BLACK & WHITE).
NOTE: Then Decide, on Who You Want to Vote for,
in the Upcoming Presidential Election...
"and the two are intertwined" so saying the Olde Words of the Elders.
One American Lady

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WHEN THE SLAVES, (ILLEGAL ALIENS) WERE BROUGHT TO AMERICA...
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 1, 2008 12:39 PM   
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THEY WERE "SOLD INTO LABOR / SOLD INTO BONDAGE...FOR THE PURPOSE OF LABOR"...
How different is the Labor of Today, as to that Era in History of America?
Who Gets Paid, for the Bondage of Citizens or in another scenerio...the Confined Inmates... they are Traded, Paid For, "for the Financial Gain" of some Type of Institution.
The Slaves Were Purchased by the Head of a Household...Head of a Plantation... & these Indivduals / Human Beings, Were "used for Labor"...TO "BRING PROSPERITY TO THE FAMILY WHO *OWNED THAT PERSON* & BRING PROSPERITY & FIANCIAL INCREASE TO AMERICA & THE PEOPLE, THEREIN."
How Can the American Families, "do Without the Labor, of the Illegal Aliens, or Approved Labor By People, of a Foreign Country, Outside the United States of America ??"
THE WHITE PEOPLE & THE NATIVE INDIANS... "DIDN'T SURVIVE"...EVER, UNTIL 1860'S.... WITHOUT THE "LABOR FROM SLAVES"...
so, Take a Look At the Decline of Our Economy
since the Dawes Rolls & other Actions / Rolls,
were taken, to Control the People of America...
& YOU TELL ME.... CAN WE EVER EXIST,....WITHOUT
SOME TYPE OF PEOPLE... WHO ARE WILLING TO "SLAVE FOR US".???
(Take a Good Look, At Your Own Ancestory...&
IF YOUR ANCESTORS WERE BORN ON THE *EAST SIDE OF THE WORLD*...WHAT YOUR *MEDICAL HISTORY* HAS THE POTENTIAL OF BEING !!
(From a Medical Doctor, this information came to the surface: "Persons born with a Lighter Skin / Lighter Color to the (Inside of the Body)ARE SUBJECT TO DISEASES / INFECTIONS OF THE RESPIRATORY PARTS OF THE BODY...this includes the Lungs / Nasal Passage & What Else???
Well, You figure it out...).
WITH THIS TYPE OF "PRE-DESTINATION", Would You Want to Preserve Your Health, for Things, Other Than "Labor / Vigorous Work" ???
What Reason, has a White Person / Native Indian / Individual of Black Heritage, have for
"Not Being Employed"????
(I don't have an Excuse, do you ??)
One American Lady

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» I get it now! Schizophrenia, right? Posted by: countingdaisies
Help replace Bilbray
Posted by: COC on Sep 1, 2008 1:39 PM   
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Please help get Bilbray out of office. Here is the site for the Dem candidate: http://www.picknick08.com/

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While We're On the Subject of Immigration, Keep This in Mind:
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 2, 2008 4:17 AM   
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Our Men & Women of the Armed Forces, go to War, Serve in the Military...& thousands are having the "PTSD".
Where do they think this "PTSD" is Coming From?
(This has as much to do with Immigration, as does the birth of a baby, from an illegal alien female).
Let's Talk *Toxicity*. AS WE ALL KNOW: Poisons, can Harm the Body. We've been told this...over & over...but DO WE REALLY LISTEN?
WE BETTER, CAUSE THE FOUNDING FATHERS KNEW & DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT...THEY HAD *PLANS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE*.
When a Person, Comes in Contact with: Hazardous Material, a Person, Instantly..(most of the time) HAS AN ALLERGIC REACTION...but THIS TYPE OF ALLERGIC REACTION...WILL *NOT BE HEALED, WITH ANTI-HISTIMINES !!*
Think about this:"When a Human Body, *Contracts a Substance, that the Body can't tolerate...& is Trying to Reject...the First Symptoms are Gonna: Effect the Nasal Passage & the Breathing, Respiratory Parts of the Body.
ANTI-HISTIMINES, DO NO *COUNTERACT A POISON*.
Where are these Poisons, besides in some Household Cleaners?
Well, they are in Fuels, Equipment / Clothing, Many Items, used in the Armed Forces. It's found in "gun cleaning solvents", etc.
When a Jeep is blowed up & harms a Soldier, that Soldier, *might have Contracted Poison, into his body*...& POISON / TOXICITY, CAN CAUSE *ADVERSE REACTIONS* TO THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM...& Not Only PTSD, Symptoms Occur...
SOMETIMES, THOSE *TOXICITY SUBSTANCES* ARE SO CONSUMED..BY THE HUMAN BODY...THAT *THEY CAN BE *TRANSMITTED INTO THE EMBRYO OF A UNBORN BABY* WHICH CAN CAUSE: BIRTH DEFECTS / BIRTH DISEASES / DEGENERATION OF THE VITAL ORGANS OF THE HUMAN BODY / MILD TO SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS.
Sure, Our Leaders can *Tell Us, That Genetics, Play a Large Part in This...but Hey, Which Ancestor, GAVE IT TO YOU ???
HOW FAR BACK, OR HOW NEAR TO YOU, WAS A "MILITARY SOLDIER / VETERAN" ???
Think About This, We Are Living in Perilous Times.
IF OUR GENERATIONS ARE DYING, "A WHOLE GENERATION AT A TIME...OR BEING *MAIMED BY THE EFFECTS OF WAR*... WHEN CAN IT STOP?"
There are a lot of things to Think About, This Year, with the Election & Candidates, that We Will Have on the Ballot.
Think, Seriously, BEFORE YOU VOTE...ON ANYTHING.
One American Lady

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Have You Read the Life Story of (President) George Washington?...You Should: Many Reasons...
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 2, 2008 4:27 AM   
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His Life, & the Fact that *He was / is Respected, as a Perfect Role Model, for American Citizens.
But, allow me to Share This With You.
George *worked hard, to Properly Represent the Citizens of America*.
HE *NEVER ALLOWED ANYONE TO DEGRADE / DECLINE HIS WELL-BEING*.
George Washington, because of his *inability to Reject Infections...was a Very Ill Man, from Time to Time, but HIS *TEAM PLAYERS* STOOD BY HIM, ADMIRED HIS *GUTS TO FIGHT BACK & AMBITION TO WIN*.
George Washington, KEPT GOING / KEPT FIGHTING..TIL HE & HIS COMRADES, WON THE WAR / WON THE FIGHT.. WHICH LED TO *OUR FREEDOMS*.
It would Pay Anyone to Read & Study *the Lives of the Founding Fathers & the Life of Dolley Madison & the Signers of the Declaration of Independence.*
When I *read this information* I had a Wake-Up Call, to Reality...& Why Our Government Leaders are the Way They Are Today...IT HAS TO DO WITH THE *NATURAL RESOURCES* ...THE MONEY & THE GREED, FOR IT.
This Does Not Match the *Plans for the American People, which was Established by the Founding Fathers & the Signers of the Declaraton of Independence...the Freedoms / Rights, for the Citizens of America.*
One American Lady

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What If the Constitutional Government, was Established, Specificially for This Reason?
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 2, 2008 4:49 AM   
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OUR MILITARY MEN (& WOMEN) & THEIR FAMILIES !!
What if:"By the Time / Era of The Founding Fathers, the Life of George Washington, THESE MEN, REALIZED THAT *SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE HEALTH OF OUR PEOPLE, OUR SOLDIERS, THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS*....
But, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT...CAUSE WE *DON'T HAVE INDEPENDENCE, FROM FOREIGN CONTROL*.
So, a War was Fought...the Revolutionary War...& It Was Won & the Founding Fathers & Signers of the Declaration of Independence, have Remained, An Important of the History of America.
WHAT IF THESE LEADERS "SPECIFICALLY WROTE THE CONSTITUTION & BILL OF RIGHTS...JUST FOR THOSE *WHO WERE WILLING TO ...BORNE THE BATTLE*...FIGHT TO DEFEND AMERICAN & THE FREEDOMS & RIGHTS, HERE???
From the Phrase:"The Constitution & Bill of Rights & the Constitutional Type of Government was Established TO *SERVE THE PEOPLE*...THEIR *SUCCEEDING GENERATIONS*.
What is the Meaning of *Succeeding Generations* ?? These are the Offspring FROM THE CITIZENS OF AMERICA...
What if the Constitution & Bill of Rights, were Written to Protect the Men / Soldiers, WHO FOUGHT IN THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR...& *THEIR SUCCEEDING GENERATIONS*....
What if: The Founding Fathers, Wanted a Guarantee, for: Healthcare / Housing / Food / All Basic Needs, FOR THE MEMBERS OF THEIR SUCCEEDING GENERATIONS??
NOTE: WHY DO YOU THINK, THE FOUNDING FATHERS, "WANTED A *MIXED RACE* OF PEOPLE"...& Even *fathered children by Women of: White / Indian / Black Heritage...to Get That Accomplished !!
THEY NEEDED *HEIRS* TO BELIEVE IN THE PATRIOTISM OF THEIR *FOREFATHERS* & STAND-UP FOR THE *HUMAN RIGHTS* OF THE *(LEGAL) CITIZENS OF AMERICA.
(The Citizens / Descendants of the *Original Heritage of America*...the people of the 13-Colonies...ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE OF AMERICA...& SHOULD HAVE *GUARANTEED SUPPORT, FINANCIALLY & EVERY OTHER WAY...EVEN OPPORTUNITIES FOR HEALTH / EDUCATION / WELFARE... CAUSE THEIR ANCESTORS...*GAINED THE FREEDOM & RIGHTS...FOR ALL (LEGAL) CITIZENS OF AMERICA*.
Most people, Are "Not Interested in Genealogy* Not Interested in their Ancestors".
But, What If...You Found, that Your Ancestory, is Connected to the *Royalty Bloodlines, of the Foreign Countries, Represented in the Treaty of Paris, WOULD THIS MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH ... HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT SOME PEOPLE OF THE ILLEGAL ALIENS, no matter, what country they hail from ??
I'm ONE AMERICAN LADY, with those Connections & Also, Have a Very Rare Birth / Brain *defect*
THAT CAN'T BE CURED...& It Was Toxic Substances, contracted by the Direct Lineage of Ancestors...the Men who Fought in Wars....
THAT *THE GENETICS* WERE *HANDED-DOWN TO ME*...just like it was to Billions of Other American (legal) Citizens.
Our Genetics, of Toxicity, from War...Our Soldiers Fighting a War...are *killing off / destroying Our American People...genetically..
A WHOLE GENERATION AT A TIME...
So, the Need for *Labor, by Foreign People, is Needed...(maybe Not Wanted) but Needed, Because Our Government Leaders have Failed to Protect OUR HUMAN RIGHTS, CONSTITUTIONALLY!!
One American Lady

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WHO ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE *DESCENDANTS OF THOSE WHO WERE ALIVE, LIVING IN THE 13-COLONIES??
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 2, 2008 5:06 AM   
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It Could Be You & You & You !!
For Those Who are Illegal Aliens, & birth a Baby in America, THESE BABIES, ARE "NOT OF THE ORIGINAL HERITAGE...OF AMERICA".
What if the Constitutional Government, "did Not Allow, for U.S. Presidents, to be From Any Other...Type of People, than *FROM THE ORIGINAL HERITAGE OF AMERICA*.
"All of Our U.S. Presidents, have Ancestory, FROM THE ORIGINAL HERITAGE OF AMERICA...their Ancestors...WERE "NOT JUST *BORN IN AMERICA*...BUT THEY ARE FROM A *LONG-LINEAGE* OF ANCESTORS...WHO WERE OF THE *13-COLONIES*.
Check out the *Treaty of Paris 1783*.
Check Out the Lives of the U.S. Presidents.
THEY ARE A SELECTED GROUP OF PEOPLE...PROBABLY.
But, HAVE ALL THE CANDIDATES, WHO HAVE EVER "RUN FOR THE POSITION OF U.S. PRESIDENT...BEEN *DESCENDED FROM THE PEOPLE, OF THE 13-COLONIES ???*
Are We Allowing People, to Become U.S. President, Who Are Gonna "Break that Cycle"...
RISK OUR INDEPENDENCE???
What if We The People...voted for a Candidate, who is Not From the Original Heritage of America...& OUR INDEPENDENCE...WAS *FORFEITED*,
went Back to the Foreign Countries, From Which are Represented in the Treaty of Paris 1783?
WAKE-UP AMERICA, WE ARE HAVE MORE PROBLEMS, THAN YOU MIGHT THINK !!
(Immigration has a Lot to Do with Our Very Existence... Our Rights / Our Freedoms).
Who is it that *Allowed the Babies, just born in America & a Citizen by Document (legal paper)...TO HAVE THE SAME PRIVILEGES, AS THOSE.. WHOSE ANCESTORS, FOUGHT IN THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR...& WON THE WAR... FOR OUR INDEPENDENCE ???*
No Wonder, Genealogy, is NOT A REQUIRED SUBJECT IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS...Our Kids / Grandkids... might Learn Something Worthwhile.
One American Lady

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LET'S TALK STATISTICS, here:
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 2, 2008 5:17 AM   
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In the Year of 2006 - 2007, there were:
Over 900,000 Homeless, School-Age Children,
in America.
Over 336,000 Homeless Military Soldier / Veterans, in America.
NOW, THE STATISTICS ARE ON THE FOCUS OF:
"the Uninsured People, of America"...perhaps, most of them, ARE *ILLEGAL ALIENS & THE BABIES BORN TO THEM, IN AMERICA !!"
(Don't Worry, the Working Class of People, WILL FINANCIALLY *FOOT THE BILL*...OF THE MEDICAL COSTS / FOOD / HOUSING, ETC.)
Our Leaders of *Our Government* Have Paved the Way, for It to Happen, that Way....
DO THE ILLEGAL ALIENS...HAVE TO PAY *INCOME TAXES* / COSTS OF FOOD, HOUSING, SUPPORT THE BASIC NEEDS...OF THE POOR, WHO ARE NEIGHBORS...TO THE ILLEGAL ALIENS OR THOSE *APPROVED TO LABOR...IN AMERICA* ???
No Wonder, an Illegal Alien, or an Approved Laborer of Foreign Descent...WILL WORK FOR CHEAPER WAGES...THEY *DON'T / MIGHT NOT BE REQUIRED TO PAY *INCOME TAXES*...SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS...etc...like Our Own (legal) Citizens of America, have to do.
There's Certainly a Lot to Think About, When It Comes to the Subject of Immigration.
So, Why didn't America, have any Problems, between 1807 to Now...& the past Few Years?
Note: We Did:...When WWII began, ALL ILLEGAL
ALIENS, WERE *SENT BACK TO THEIR OWN COUNTRY*, DURING A TIME OF WAR....
Why haven't We, The People, Our Leaders, Followed Suit, with that Requirement???
(During a Wartime...All Illegal Aliens, Are / Could Be Required to: BE SENT BACK TO THEIR OWN COUNTRY...TIL THE WAR IS OVER).
My, How well...HOW FAST THE WAR WOULD END...HUH??
One American Lady

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LET ME SHARE WITH YOU..."WHY WE BETTER, IMPORT...SOME IMMIGRANTS...(legal ones)...for Labor:
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 2, 2008 5:42 AM   
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There is a Program, which Promotes / Hires (mostly females), to Perform Job Duties...
WHERE THERE ARE *NO REQUIREMENTS FOR TRAINING* FOR: HOUSEKEEPING / DISHWASHING / BATHING ASISTANCE / FOOD PREPARATION... BEDMAKING.
And For This Type of Job:...the Pay is:
$3.63 Per Unit, with *Each Unit, being 15 Minutes !!
Plus, these (females) workers, GET MONEY FOR "MILEAGE" too...a Fat Paycheck, from the MONIES OF THE WORKING CLASS...WHO ARE *REQUIRED TO ATTEND SCHOOL, BECOME EDUCATED, PAY INCOME TAXES, ETC....for a *lot-less wages*.
These Personal Care Attendants-Assistants... DON'T POSSESS: FOOD-HANDLERS PERMIT / PERSONAL HEALTH-CARD...STATING THEY ARE *DISEASE-FREE* /
PATIENT SAFETY TRAINING, I.D. CARD.
And, they:"DON'T KNOW HOW TO: PROPERLY WASH DISHES, SWEEP OR MOP A FLOOR, MAKE A BED, VACUUM A FLOOR, OR ASSIST WITH BATHING & CERTAINLY MANY OF THEM...CAN'T COOK...as They're used to Fast Foods...or Open a Can or a Box...& feed this stuff to a HOME-BOUND PATIENT.
Talk about a REASON TO IMPORT LABOR...
REMEDY: SEND OUR PEOPLE, OUR OWN CITIZENS, TO SCHOOL...TEACH THEM, HOW TO WORK !!
If they don't Work, They Don't Eat.
(My Mother, she practiced this...IT WAS HER WAY... & SHE MADE A *BELIEVER, OUT OF US...NO JOB PERFORMANCE...NO FOOD...but..then, *that's a crime, in America, nowadays, huh?
YOU BET, WE WANTED TO WORK THOUGH...WE GOT HUNGRY ENOUGH TO GO TO WORK...& HELP WITH THE GARDENING, FEEDING THE COW...FEEDING THE CHICKENS...& by Dinner Time...We Knew WHY WE HAD TO WORK...
My mother would sometimes say this:"let's pretend that: YOU ARE AN ADULT...& WILL BE WORKING, MAKING YOUR *OWN WAY IN LIFE*...& she'd go sit in a chair...while we worked...but, guess what...IT WASN'T LONG...BEFORE WE *WANTED HER HELP*.
I treasure that Loving Mother...who taught us... that *a Child Grows Up to Become an Adult, to have RESPONSIBILITIES, TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES & ANY FAMILY, THEY MIGHT HAVE."
But, she remained, in sidelines...& helped us..
along...til We Could Handle that Responsibility, & That's What Good, Responsible Parents, Are Supposed to Do.
But, "where have those parents gone to"...what has happened in the Past 50 Years, to People, who Birthed Children... who Failed Those Children...to Be There...as a Parent...
(No Wonder, there is a Need to *Import People, for Labor Purposes...OUR OWN PEOPLE, THE *NON-WORKING CLASS*...WON'T WORK...WON'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
You figure it out...& if you have a Resolution, let Our U.S. Congress People, HEAR FROM YOU !!
Help Support, Our Rights...Our Freedoms...Help get Laws enacted to Protect Our Rights / Our Freedoms.
One American Lady

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Rules / Regulations, of some U.S. Government Agencies:
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 2, 2008 5:52 AM   
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May Not Apply, to Babies, born to Illegal Aliens...
A Government Agency, which is supposed to provide assistance... for health / education / welfare & other needs, States This:
"If you, a Citizen of America, is NOT A CLIENT OF A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY / CONSUMING MENTAL HEALTH MEDS...YOU *CANNOT BE REHABILITATION, WITH THE PROGRAM, WE OFFER*.
Now, Get This: "Persons who have Been Exposed to & Contract Toxicity Substances, VERY SELDOM, CAN *TOLERATE MENTAL HEALTH MEDS*...BECAUSE IT *WORSENS THE ADVERSE REACTIONS TO THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM OF THE BODY / BRAIN...FORCES IT TO *MALFUNCTION* MORESO...CREATING...MENTAL ILLNESS *BEHAVIORS* TO THE POINT, OF AN INDIVIDUAL...TO: COMMIT SUICIDE / KILL SOMEONE ELSE / REACT WITH HOSTILITY TOWARD OTHERS...& much more.
Check it out...It's For Real...Ask the Men & Women, who are Fighting a War...& Contracting PTSD...Thousands of them, coming back (if they even do), from the Iraq / Afghanistan War...
Read the Site of: Veterans for Common Sense.org
These Soldiers Are Hurting, in Pain...& THEY FIGHT TO PROTECT THE FREEDOMS & RIGHTS OF THE AMERICAN CITIZENS...not the Illegal Aliens...
WHO GET *MORE PRIVILEGES, FROM THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, THAN OUR OWN SOLDIERS, OUR BRAVE MEN & WOMEN, WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERLY...PROTECTED OUR RIGHTS / OUR FREEDOMS.
Isn't there Something Wrong, with this Picture?
Doesn't Our (legal) Citizens of America, Count,
with Our Leaders of the U.S. of America?
One American Lady

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Almost all of us are anchor babies
Posted by: paintchips on Sep 3, 2008 7:11 AM   
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Republican U.S. Senator Pete Domenici is the son of an undocumented immigrant. I'm sure most of us have at least one ancestor in our past that was an undocumented immigrant. It's not something people are proud of but something they did out of survival. Domenici would have never known about his mother had immigraiton tracked her down in their sweeps of Italians during the world war.
If you can trace your family back to to pre-revolution, you're an anchor baby.

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Does the Immigration Law, specifically state: Children born to Illegal Aliens / Non-Citizens of USA:
Posted by: One American Lady on Sep 11, 2008 12:39 PM   
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When the Individuals of Slavery... Persons of the Black Ancestory Heritage, Received *Freedom Papers*... Were They Accepted as Legal, U.S. Citizens... Provided a Document, which Stated Such Wording?
If the Slaves, were Given Freedom Papers, but Not Citizenship Papers.. what Does This Make Their Descendants, born or Not born in America?? Slaves, bought by the Plantation Owners, were Not Illegal Aliens, according to History of America... but they weren't considered citizens either.
Are You Aware of the Barbary Wars, & that Thomas Jefferson, was "Paying thousands of Dollars... toward that area... where the Barbary Wars... were happening"... & which led to the Immigration Laws, to Prevent, Further Influx of Slaves, Much Like the Influx of Illegal Aliens, of Today ?
One American Lady

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