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Rights and Liberties

Should Barack Obama and Cindy McCain be in Jail?

By Johann Hari, Huffington Post. Posted August 13, 2008.


Under the twisted logic of the "war on drugs," the answer is yes, along with Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and nearly half of the U.S. population.
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On January 20th 2009, either the president of the United States will be a man who used to snort coke to ease his blues, or the First Lady will be a former drug addict who stole from charity to get her next fix. In this presidential campaign, there are dozens of issues that have failed to flicker into the debate, but the most striking is the failing, flailing 'War on Drugs.' Isn't it a sign of how unwinnable this 'war' is that, if it was actually enforced evenly, either Barack Obama or Cindy McCain would have to skip the inauguration -- because they'd be in jail?

At least their time in the slammer would feature some familiar faces: they could share a cell with Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and some 46 percent of the U.S. population.

The prohibition of drugs is perhaps the most disastrous policy currently pursued by the U.S. government. It hands a vast industry to armed criminal gangs, who proceed to kill at least excess 10,000 citizens a year to protect their patches. It exports this program of mass slaughter to Mexico, Colombia and beyond. It has been a key factor in reviving the Taliban in Afghanistan. It squanders tens of billions of dollars on prisons at home, ensuring that one in 31 adults in the U.S. now in prison or on supervised release at any one time. And it has destroyed an entire generation of black men, who are now more likely to go to prison for drug offenses than to go to university.

And for what? Prohibition doesn't stop people using drugs. Between 1972 and 1978, eleven U.S. states decriminalized marijuana possession. So did hundreds of thousands of people rush out to smoke the now-legal weed? The National Research Council found that it had no effect on the number of dope-smokers. None. The people who had always liked it carried on; the people who didn't felt no sudden urge to start.

So where's the debate? The candidates have spent more time discussing froth and fancies -- how much air is in your tires? -- than this $40 billion-a-year 'war."

They should be forced to listen to Michael Levine, who had a thirty year career as one of America's most distinguished federal narcotics agents. In his time, he infiltrated some of the biggest drugs cartels in the world -- and he now explains, in sad tones, that he wasted his time. In the early 1990s, he was assigned to eradicate drug-dealing from one New York street corner -- an easy enough task, surely? But he quickly learned that even this was physically impossible, given the huge demand for drugs. He calculated that he would need one thousand officers to be working on that corner for six months to make an impact -- and there were only 250 drugs agents in the whole city. One of the residents asked him, "If all these cops and agents couldn't get this one corner clean, what's the point of this whole damned drug war?"

When Levine penetrated to the very top of la Mafia Cruenza, one of the biggest drug-dealing gangs in the world, he learned, as he puts it, "that not only did they not fear our war on drugs, they actually counted on it… On one undercover tape-recorded conversation, a top cartel chief, Jorge Roman, expressed his gratitude for the drug war, calling it 'a sham put on the American tax-payer' that was 'actually good for business'." He was right -- prohibition is the dealer's friend. They depend on it. They thrive on it, just as Al Capone thrived on alcohol prohibition. When Levine recounted these comments to his boss -- the officer in command of the paramilitary operation attacking South America -- he replied, "Yeah, we know [the police and military battles against drug gangs] don't work, but we sold the plan up and down the Potomac."


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Scratching...
Posted by: blurider on Aug 13, 2008 4:01 PM   
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Great article but it still, barely scratches the surface.
Everybody's addicted! Enforcement is totally addicted to the money and it's a helluva lot more addictive than the worst drug. It's been stated often but I'll repeat in case some don't know, that most drug enforcement agencies on every level are funded, based on the dollar value (usually exaggerated as much as they dare) of the drugs they bust that year. Among other things this gives them the wherewithal to have lots of high tech toys and often to take whatever they covet from dealers they bust.
It's corrupted departments until you get such things as the southern DEA which spent a few slow weeks, pulling all the ditch weed they could locate in their area. 'Ditch weed' is feral, wild growing hemp, left over from the era when it was farmed commercially. You probably know that it has almost zero THC and you'd never want to smoke it!
These good old boys priced it at the highest street value for the best weed available and added it to the value of their annual busts thereby robbing the taxpayers as surely as any heroin addict who might break into your house.

Fortunately some states have changed their drug related forfeiture laws but their is still lots of money in enforcement and even in programs like DARE.

Katherine Austin Fitts has written how during her tenure as Secretary of Housing for Bush 1 she wasn't allowed to see the books of Freddie Mac (or maybe it was Fannie Mae, maybe both) for over two years. When she did get to see they were a mess. She had a software she had written that would organize them and she tried to get the administration to use it but met surprising, persistent resistance. Finally she realized the messed up books were cover for laundering the money from Iran Contra drug sales. That could still have some bearing on the state of the GSE's today.

By then the Iran Contra hearings were finished, the findings were 'negotiated' between Lee Hamilton and the Cheney contingent, into a white-bread, bi-partisaqn outcome, Reagan was revered by the stupid and so inclined and Oliver North was walking the streets - actually preparing to run for office - and the drug traffic that fed the fiasco was still padding the accounts of our ruling class.
Of course we do have congresspersons who are too 'principled' to participate in income from drugs. Instead, they pad their wallets with the money from the bonds and the rents from the prison industrial system. (literally - they rent cells and try to enact laws that keep them filled.)

I'm surprised that Jim Webb doesn't mention any of this - I have respect for his integrity but maybe I'm just naive - he has to know it goes on. Maybe they just have an unwrtten code that you don't rat out the club members.

Worse still, is the snitch system that gets light sentences for the most involved, best known and most sophisticated, lawyered-up dealers who have lots of names to trade in bargaining for lighter sentences. Meanwhile (and I know of such cases) 'drug virgins' and first timers can get lifetime and even multiple lifetime sentences. Their sentencing might even be aggravated by their principled unwillingness to rat out someone - anyone, true or not!

I've heard Orrin Hatch say about those cases, 'well, they messed with drugs and they got what they deserved!' I won't accuse Orrin of taking drug money coz I have no such knowledge, but I'll bet you my car that the arrogant, aristocratic SOB takes profits from the for-profit prison system!

...and I've still only scratched the surface. Name a category and you can bet it's corrupted by our rulers' addiction to money!

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» RE: Scratching... Posted by: ringo
That's a poser
Posted by: LMNOP on Aug 13, 2008 4:09 PM   
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The prohibition of drugs is perhaps the most disastrous policy currently pursued by the U.S. government.

Wow. LOL. That's a poser. Yes, the drug policy is incredibly disastrous. But look at the competition for the most disastrous policy currently pursued by the U.S. government

[1] The War on Drugs - easily the worst policy for most other countries, say Denmark or Costa Rica, if they were to adopt it. But not so quickly!

[2] The War on Iraq - a very strong contender. This makes America a rogue nation for starting a war of aggression, and the president a murderer for defrauding the nation into it. That's got to be a contender.

[3] The systematic dismantling of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and the death of American democracy - where do you put the corporatization of America and the turn toward fascism on your list? Do torture, paperless ballot boxes and shit-canning habeas corpus belong here or in a separate category? They're each pretty impressive standing alone, even compared to the disastrous War on Drugs

[4] Denial and disregard of global warming - whoa! How many living things and how much property is threatened by this? That's gotta trump the drug policy.

[5] The War on The Middle Class - Is the turning of America into a feudal state of nobles and peasants worse than the War on Drugs? I'd say so.

There may be more - I'm tired. But this is a nice start. Which of these is America's most disastrous policy? I couldn't begin to put them in any order.

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The Biggest Drug Pushers
Posted by: mikehattan on Aug 13, 2008 4:18 PM   
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Are the tobacco companies....Having to be forced to watch the lives of both my mother and my father and then dozens of my friends' lives cut short because of NICOTINE ADDICTION. For 50 years I have railed against the legal consumption of cigarettes but I have been seemingly a voice crying in the wilderness.
If 'the authorities' want to declare a war on drugs why don't they declare a war on the most pernicious and destructive drug on the face of this planet? CIGARETTES and all tobacco products. The hypocricy of it all is staggering beyond belief. Wait a moment,do I hear the tax reaping sounds of thousands of cash registers in the background? Yes I do.

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» RE: The Biggest Drug Pushers Posted by: 86thefed
Scratching the surface
Posted by: zippoflash on Aug 13, 2008 5:26 PM   
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I don't know if I have much to add. These first few posts are getting it pretty much down. Such a corrupt and disastrous 'war' which has destroyed so many lives. We all have a handle on the tragedy. How do we end this. Ideas anyone?

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My nomination for the worst drug
Posted by: drSooz on Aug 13, 2008 5:50 PM   
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would have to be alcohol. It's the worst drug, in my opinion, because it's available everywhere. (Nicotine would be next in line as the worst drug regarding the damage done and how addictive it is) Having recently decided to quit drinking I found the withdrawal from alcohol the worst thing I've ever gone through. People have died from alcohol detox! I've been told it's worse than coming off heroin.

But alcohol is legal and socially acceptable. It's advertised on TV and everywhere else. It's part of the ritual of coming of age. Yet it's ruined homes and families, health and family finances. It contributes to domestic abuse and child abuse, not to mention the people killed by drunk drivers. We are a nation of drug-takers. We have drugs for everything. Good grief, we even have psychotropic drugs for our pets! We can't stand to feel "bad" so we take something.

Yet so harmless a drug as marijuana is portrayed as a killer and "gateway" drug. I don't expect to see any meaningful change to this double standard in my lifetime. I am just sorry that we, as a nation, are so easily fooled into believing such propaganda.

As someone who's smoked pot off and on for years, but only drank alcohol for a year and a half, I'd rather take pot. It has no withdrawal pains, or at least, I never experienced any, whereas stopping drinking was the hardest thing I've ever done.

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Are we surprised that we can't win "war on drugs"?
Posted by: celeborn on Aug 13, 2008 6:31 PM   
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All we have to do is listen to what good, honest Drug Enforcers have been trying to tell us, at great danger to themselves. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Bd6lmpIFI
How do you think the corrupt in Washington funds their wars?

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DISHONEST PEOPLE LIKE THE BIG MONEY THAT THEY CAN MAKE
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Aug 13, 2008 9:27 PM   
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in the illegal drug market. Nothing is going to change until the money is taken out of it. We, as usual, have shortage of honest people that are willing to change the system.

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It's all about graft and payoffs
Posted by: Bearzerker on Aug 13, 2008 10:11 PM   
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...just follow the money and look at the enforcers of this bad policy and just how it evolved!

Just how many federal police forces and prisons do you need?...
land of the free?...
land of the bought and paid for?...
is looking more like the land of the scared and frightened!

fear and loathing, by Hunter S. Thompson is worth a second read...
nothing has changed politically since Nixon, actually its gotten worse, and more politically perverse then at anytime in history... Bush43 is a very inept Nixon but the power behind the throne in the oval office is the same lame ass, hacks and elitists since the time of McCarthy and his fear inducing rumormongers!

damn, what a dark void of excess we've created...
The black-market is flourishing and the underground economy bursting at the seems!

Time to review and reconsider, possibly the worse policy decision ever come out of the political landscape... ever!

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Not Citzens, but a Nation of Pre-incarcerates..!
Posted by: TJColatrella on Aug 13, 2008 11:00 PM   
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It's a fine line from becoming a nation of citizens to one of pre-incarcerates...

That line is becoming so fine it's almost impossible to see..!

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Terrytom/my plan
Posted by: terryton on Aug 14, 2008 4:33 AM   
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The drug war is mindless and cannot be won. The conservatives like it that way as they thrive on conflict and profit from it. They are neither compassionate nor insightful.
My plan is to trade violence and criminality for education and treatment. There will remain some traditional legal issues.
First is the educational component: classes for each mood-altering chemical the person wishes to use and that includes one of the most harmful yet now legal ones, alcohol. Upon successful completion of the course a license will be issued for that person to obtain the drug at a properly licensed pharmacy or store.
Second, certain amounts considered reasonable recreational amounts would be allowed. If the licensee exceeds that amount a psychologist or other trained professional will contact him/her for consultation. Most often drug abuse is a symptom of a person self-medicating for unexplored or denied issues.
Third, we substitute counseling and hospitalization for imprisonment. Legalization will diminish greatly much property crime committed to obtain money for expensive black market drugs. Legalization will remove the cause of much violence in turf wars and vengeance. This will ease our prison population. It will reduce family violence because many people in need of treatment will now get counseling rather than prison. Little needed rehabilitation or counseling is available in prison. Most convicts just get worse.
Fourth; and by no means least it will lesson police criminal behavior and aid to restore respect for the law and our justice system.
Today our computer power and linking make all this easy to implement and track.
I speak as a thoughtful, grateful, recovering addict and alcoholic with over 12 years of blessed recovery. It has not been easy yet my spiritual journey, self-discovery and growth continue because I stay active in those pursuits.

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Paul Cardwell
Posted by: Paul Cardwell on Aug 14, 2008 9:56 AM   
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A prison "volunteer" study in the 1930s mainlined nicotine to heroin addicts. When stabilized, they were returned to heroin and exhibited light withdrawal symptoms. Nicotine is "harder" than heroin! Of course no one mainlines nicotine because the dose to weight ratio is so critical - nicotine is right up there with potassium cyanide as a poison - and use a more diluted delivery system. Still, we have dope addicts passing laws against lighter drugs than they use. And that doesn't even get into the cheapest hallucigen - ethanol - which they are also known to use. Hypocracy. Drug addiction is a health problem and should be treated medically, not criminally.

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Lets not forget Christ Jesus! The Anointed One!
Posted by: garry minor on Aug 14, 2008 10:12 AM   
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The title Christ/Messiah means literally covered in oil, Anointed. In Exodus 30:23 of the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament God instructs Moses to use 250 shekels of "kaneh bosm" in the oil to be used to anoint all Priests, Kings, and Prophets, for all generations to come, including that of Jesus, today, and forever. Thats why God gave us the recipe. However, when the Greeks translated the Books in the 3rd century B.C. they rendered the word "kaneh bosm" as calamus. Calamus was used then as well as today as an aphrodisiac and stimulant, it's active chemical asarone is a precursor to the modern psychedelic MDMA, ectasy. If you've ever done good MDMA you can understand the error.
Hebrew then slowly ceased to be a spoken language and was not again revived until the mid 1800's. In 1936 a Polish Anthropologist named Sula Benet discovered the error. After years of research and simple etymological comparison Benet claimed that "kaneh bosm" is cannabis. Remember, at this time cannabis was not yet illegal at a Federal level in the U.S.A.
It wasn't until 1980 that the Hebrew Institute of Jerusalem confirmed her claim that indeed "kaneh bosm" is cannabis. We now know that many other ancient civilizations also used cannabis as a sacrament and medicine, including the early Egyptians.
Kaneh is also listed as an incense tree in Song of Songs 4:14, the error was repeated In Isaiah 43:24, Jeremiah 6:20, and Ezekiel 27:19. There are 141 references to anointing and 145 for burning incense in the standard Bible.
This revelation along with the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Nag Hammadi Library, and other Apocrapha clearly indicate that the first and original followers of "The Way" anointed themselves with oil and burned incense. The title "Christian" had not yet been established. Jesus came to make Anointed Priests of all men so that we will be confident and unashamed before him at his coming, 1 John 2:18-29.
For some reason, Well, because it had to happen to get where we are, the Truth was twisted and the faith watered down with Johns baptism, kind of like the political spin jobs of today. They took the Christ, the Anointing, right out of Jesus. The word antichrist means literally; opposed to or against anointed.
In the world today we have been taught to fear the one resource that can cure cancer, promote the growth of brain cells, both prevent and cure Alzheimers, and treat epilepsy, autism, diabetes, migraine, chronic pain, arthritis, MS, ALS, OCD, ADHD, depression, glaucoma, lupus, cystic fibrosis, asthma, emphysema, herpes, skin and eating disorders, Parkinsons, Huntingtons, Tourettes, Crohn's disease, and more.
All mammals, birds, fish and reptiles have cannabinoid receptors throughout their body that work independent of those that govern the heart and breathing which is why cannabis cannot kill you! It's good for you!
It's seed is the single most nutritiously complete food source on the planet, reintroduced to our diets it could eliminate many of the above mentioned diseases.
Anything made from oil, coal, timber, or cotton can be made ecologically friendly with cannabis hemp. All paper, plastics, textiles, fuels, lubricants, plywood, structural components, insulations, many cosmetics, health foods, and medicines, over 25,000 products can all be made with it. It is at the very minimum four times more efficient per acre than corn, kenaf, or sugar cane for ethanol and for pulp as compared to timber. It grows without most fertilizers, herbicides, or pesticides to foul the soil and water, in climates and conditions other crops won't grow.
Today, not only is the way to personal salvation illegal, but we would throw Jesus Christ in jail for simply being the "Christ" - The Anointed One!


That satan sure is tricky!!!
Lets remove the flaming sword and bring the Tree of Life back into our garden.

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I can't wait until I'm 65
Posted by: ohb0b on Aug 14, 2008 9:57 PM   
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One of the reasons marijuana usage hasn't gone up in states that have decriminalized it is employers regularly perform drug testing.
Like airport security, this is another of those bulls**t scams that make everyone feel safe, we are a drug free company!

I'm one of those white guys who hasn't smoked a joint in years. But when I'm retired, and don't have to go piss in a bottle anymore; man, I'm gonna roll me an entire lid into one giant doobie!

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