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Supreme Court to Bush: You Are Not Above the Law, Gitmo Detainees Have Right to Habeas Corpus

By Liliana Segura, AlterNet. Posted June 13, 2008.


After a six-year battle that cut to the Constitution's core, a look at how advocates for Gitmo prisoners won a major victory against Bush.
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In perhaps its most significant ruling in the so-called War on Terror, the Supreme Court resurrected the ancient writ of habeas corpus on Thursday, ruling that the prisoners being held at Guantánamo Bay have the right to challenge their imprisonment in U.S. courts.

"The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times," Justice Anthony Kennedy said, writing for the majority in Boumediene v. Bush. "Liberty and security can be reconciled; and in our system they are reconciled within the framework of the law. The Framers decided that habeas corpus, a right of first importance, must be a part of that framework, a part of that law."

Center for Constitutional Rights President Michael Ratner, who has spearheaded the legal defense of the prisoners at Guantánamo Bay, called the decision a "vindication," telling reporters in a conference call hours after the ruling that he was "incredibly thrilled and moved" by the 5-4 decision, which, for CCR, marked the culmination of over half a decade of fighting for the legal rights of the men at Guantánamo, some 270 of who have still not been charged.

"It's been a long struggle," Ratner said, "We were out there alone in the beginning." Indeed, the CCR filed the first lawsuit on behalf of a Guantánamo prisoner in February 2002, in the case Rasul v. Bush, on behalf of prisoners David Hicks, Shafiq Rasul and Asif Iqbal. It was an act of moral and professional courage at a time when the country found itself paralyzed by the terrorist attacks of September 11th. Today, six and a half years after the first hooded "detainees" were brought to Gitmo's Camp X Ray, there are hundreds of lawyers representing the prisoners in Cuba. Many of them will likely be filing habeas petitions in the name of their clients in a matter of days.

"I suspect that things are going to move quite rapidly," Ratner said, in large part because of the Court's concern, expressed repeatedly throughout the ruling, that Guantánamo's prisoners have been in legal limbo for far too long.

"In some of these cases, six years have elapsed without the judicial oversight that habeas corpus or an adequate substitute demands," wrote Justice Kennedy. "... While some delay in fashioning new procedures is unavoidable, the costs of delay can no longer be borne by those who are held in custody. The detainees in these cases are entitled to a prompt habeas corpus hearing."

"A Six-Year Nightmare"

From the beginning, the fight over Guantánamo has been one of law versus politics. Thursday's ruling was the third time the Supreme Court ruled against the Bush administration's handling of suspects at Guantánamo Bay. But the story of Guantánamo reaches back further than the Court's 2004 ruling in Rasul. The history goes back, of course, to 9/11.

One week after the terrorist attacks against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Congress passed the Authorization to Use Military Force Against Terrorists, which declared that the president "is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks ... or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States." The resolution passed 420 to 1 in the House (with 10 not voting) and 98-0 in the Senate (with two no-votes). (The "AUMF" would later be used to try to justify not only the Bush administration's controversial military commissions, but the White House's warrantless wiretaps as well.)

On November 13, 2001, President Bush took this mandate and issued a military order titled "Detention, Treatment, and Trial of Certain Non-Citizens in the War Against Terrorism," which laid out the need for military commission trials for any such suspects. In January of 2002, Bush officially declared these suspects "enemy combatants."

"The U.S. government refuses to classify the detainees officially as POWs," CNN reported on January 23, 2002, noting that the identities of those held was being kept secret. "Officials suggest the Taliban and al Qaeda members don't deserve that designation." The designation, after all, would mean that the anonymous prisoners had rights under the Geneva Conventions -- a claim denied by then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

"These people are committed terrorists," Rumsfeld said. "We are keeping them off the street and out of the airlines and out of nuclear power plants and out of ports ... and it seems to me a perfectly reasonable thing to do." Days later, Vice President Cheney called the men held at Guantánamo "the worst of a very bad lot. They are very dangerous. They are devoted to killing millions of Americans." The next month, on February 18, 2002, the Center for Constitutional Rights filed a lawsuit against the Bush administration.

Rasul v. Bush

The first ruling by the Supreme Court over the prisoners at Guantánamo Bay was decided in June 2004, in the case Rasul v. Bush. The ruling threw a wrench in Bush's proclamation that, as commander-in-chief, he had the power to determine who was and who was not an "enemy combatant." Indefatigable Guantánamo lawyer Clive Stafford Smith, head of the UK-based legal non-profit, Reprieve, and one of the attorneys who brought forth the lawsuit, described the development in his book, The Eight O'Clock Ferry to the Windward Side (Nation Books):


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Thank Goodness
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jun 13, 2008 2:54 AM   
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When I first heard about this opinion, I knew who dissented. It was just about the easiest call I ever made. Of course, that thug Scalia would be inthe tent - and everybody's favorite Uncle Tom. One can only imagine Clarence Thomas in the oval office congratulating the First Fool if the opinion had gone there way:

"Hee! Hee! Hee! Oh, Mistah White Folks, we sho' is sly! Hee! Hee! Hee!"

And do you see how easily this no-brainer of an opinion could have gone the other way? And can you imagine another four years of GOP control of the executive branch of our goverment? A very depressing scenario any way you slice it or dice it.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» RE: Thank Goodness Posted by: Sissy
5 to 4?!?!?!?!
Posted by: SufiLizard on Jun 13, 2008 4:27 AM   
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Okay, the four Supreme Court justices who dissented in this opinion should be immediately impeached (or whatever the Constitutional remedy for removing a Supreme Court justice).

This goes WAY beyond politics, they are clearly completely inept at their jobs. How can you be a Supreme Court justice and have absolutely no concern for the Constitution?

Again, this isn't simply a matter of opinion. This is a very clear-cut case - the United States Constitution is VERY clear on this issue.

If they can't get this one right, they obviously have no business serving in a position of protecting our Constitution.

All that being said, THANK GOD the rule of law won out on this one! But it's truly frightening how close we came to a complete rejection of our Constitution and our American ideals.

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» Nonsense! Posted by: Last Chance
» Hardly a Surprise Posted by: socialpsych
» No surprise because Posted by: Last Chance
» "Obama can unite" Posted by: socialpsych
» IMPEACH EVERYBODY!!! Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: IMPEACH EVERYBODY!!! Posted by: Quannah
» Do you know what a democracy is? Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Do you know what a democracy is? Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Have you read the Constitution? Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Have you read the Constitution? Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Do you know what a democracy is? Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Do you know what a democracy is? Posted by: carbon-based
» Glass Houses Posted by: EinMD
And I predict
Posted by: Last Chance on Jun 13, 2008 4:47 AM   
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Bush will ignore the Supreme Court's order and go right ahead with his violations of Constitutional and International Law. Much like another criminal President, Andrew Jackson, when informed the Supreme Court had condemned his expulsion of the Cherokee population from their lands to send them on their trail of tears to Oklahoma, said: "The Judges have made their decision, now let them enforce it." Oh how I wish they had, and how I wish this further arrogance would be added to the list of high crimes and misdemeanors in Bush & Cheney's Impeachment trial!

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» RE: And I predict Posted by: Sissy
» RE: And I predict Posted by: Last Chance
» You Nailed It Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
» RE: You Nailed It Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: You Nailed It Posted by: Xynyx
» RE: And I predict Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: And I predict Posted by: Cybershaman
» Trial. Posted by: the baron
The Supreme Flaw...
Posted by: Cybershaman on Jun 13, 2008 5:33 AM   
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... in the thinking of the dissenters, is that our rights are being bestowed by a benevolent government that can arbitrarily take them away. Many conservatives have been using this arguement all along: "If they aren't US citizens they have no constitutional rights!" is the battle cry.
Except the Constitution, and the Bill Of Rights, both claim that these rights are 'God given' and a birthright of all people. They cannot be taken away for ANY reason. The system is designed to ensure these rights are sancrosanct, not just to bestow these rights upon us. Yet, they argue, once you've been convicted of certain crimes, or if you come from certain countries, these rights can be suspended. Bull!
Our system was designed to prevent these monarchial ideas from taking hold. 'Unitary Executive' is just doublespeak for 'King'!

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» RE: The Supreme Flaw... Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: The Supreme Flaw... Posted by: Cybershaman
What happens when you team up an idiot and the Devil....
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jun 13, 2008 5:43 AM   
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Why shorted sighted abuse of Power Of Course! McClellan is trying his little heart out to Prove Georgie was nothing more than another Puppet for the Dark Shadow which has loomed over our Country since he (and Fiends) slithered their way into Politics.The Oil Industry ( and Finance) got the gov't by the Short hairs then Highjacked the Country.As the Highest Court in the land and the Third branch of Gov't it is their duty to oversee that the Constitution Reigns Supreme.Frankly I see their failure to step in when blatant crimes have been committed agaisnt US and this guiding Document as a Dereliction of Duty.they are Part of the Balance. High Crimes requires a High Court to level Justice. I do not believe the Court 'Oversteps' it's Mandate, I think it fails to exercise the Responsilbities it has been delegated. The Pres (et al)suggests an agenda, Congress decides if we can afford it and the Justices decide if it serves the People and their Laws!I see no reason the SCOTUS can Not levy charges of High Crimes against those is High positions.They are our moral and legal Compass as set forth by our Founding Fathers declarations of What our country stands for.
As patriots and those who honor the struggles and achievemnts of our ancestors - this decision was a No Brainer. Shall we adopt the same oppressive laws which sent our ancestors into the sea to find and Build a new way of life?Of Course these Detainee deserve these Rights- they are the essence of Our Prinicples and Original Phiolosophy.the Four who descented not only have denied our founding Fathers dreams,but have just spit on the graves of all those who have fought for it!A baby step towards returning as the Beacons of the Rights and Freedoms for humanity.God Bless America,God Damn the Usurpers of Her!

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Smoke steaming out of Scalia's ears
Posted by: brunowe on Jun 13, 2008 6:46 AM   
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It's a surprisingly encouraging victory and I expect I'll be sending a celebratory check to the ACLU.

I think Scalia's dissent is the more amusing of the two. His assertions that the opinion "will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed" and that "The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today" are exercises in hysterics rather than legal thought. His assertion that the military can't always tell who is a threat and who isn't (invoking stories of released Gitmo detainees killing people after release) is an argument for more civilian oversight, not less. If the military can't get it right, what innocent persons are being held as unlawful enemy combatants?

His dissent also ignores that, in Eisentrager, the holding that constitutional protections didn't apply to an alien enemy was distinguishable since no proper procedure had determined that the Gitmo detainees were enemies to begin with. The petitoners in Eisentrager were "active in the hostile service of an enemy power". Scalia embraces the assumption that Gitmo detainees are enemy aliens, when the enemy part is a key fact in dispute for each detainee.

Scalia also has no response to the implication of the opinion's argument that, if US protections don't apply, who has the jurisdiction? The United States is sovereign in Gitmo in all but name. This is also important since Eisentrager also relied on the petitoners never having been within US jurisdiction. Scalia would have us believe the administration's fiction that Gitmo is somehow a territory beyond the reach of anyone's authority.

He also ignores, as the opinion doesn't, Eisentrager's emphasis on the practical difficulties of effecting the habeas writ on the petitioners in that case.

Jefferson Locke

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» Excellent comment, brunowe. Posted by: HughScott
» Here's the thing. Posted by: EinMD
» RE: Here's the thing. Posted by: Crazy H
Judicial Activism
Posted by: cincinnatus on Jun 13, 2008 6:53 AM   
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My God what are these judges thinking? They just opened the doors of American courts to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Are they totally blinded to the Constitution and the law by their own political points of view? This decision will go down with Plessy V. Ferguson and Scott v. Sandford as the worst in Supreme Court history. Reading the dissent of Chief Justice Roberts offered hope for the future if only the cancer of judicial activism could be exorcised from the body politic.

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» RE: Judicial Activism Posted by: BreeMass
» So what? Posted by: brunowe
» Only as applied Posted by: brunowe
» RE: Judicial Activism Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: Judicial Activism Posted by: EinMD
» RE: Judicial Activism Posted by: leafsong1
» RE: Judicial Activism Posted by: john mont
SO MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T "SHOOT ALL THE LAWYERS"
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jun 13, 2008 7:00 AM   
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I always knew this could happen, what bothered me was the fact that few people would take on the job. Bush doesn't agree, that's tough. True it's about Guantanamo, but it's about all of us. Maybe the Supreme Court judges realized that it's time to do the right thing. The country is in the mood to make major changes. Fact is, we have the power to "fire" just about anyone we hire in the first place. We're tired of taking orders and watching our people sink into poverty. Thanks, ANNA

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I have a legal question
Posted by: robbie.seal on Jun 13, 2008 7:16 AM   
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I know there are some legal scholars that frequent this site, so I have a question and would appreciate your opinion.

Regarding detainees:
1- One's detained in the US should have been afforded the same legal status, under our Constitution, as anyone arrested in the United States under criminal codes. Citizen or not.

2- All detainees captured in foreign countries, US citizens included, who where under arms and/or acting against the United States should have been treated as POWs and afforded rights under the Geneva Convention.

3- Had the two things above been done, the mess in the courts would have been unnecesarry.

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» RE: I have a legal question Posted by: brunowe
» Good Point Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: Good Point Posted by: Lauren
» RE: A Sad Point Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: I have a legal question Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: I have a legal question Posted by: leafsong1
Obama, McCain, and Gitmo
Posted by: leequinn on Jun 13, 2008 7:46 AM   
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Both candidates are for closing the facility.

Check out their comments on the question: Should the military detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba be closed?

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Legalizing torture
Posted by: Lauren on Jun 13, 2008 7:47 AM   
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I sure am glad the court decided as they did. Imagine if they ruled against us. 5-4 is too close for me.

There were dissenters, of course, on and off the bench, who, with wild-eyed fervor, took the now-familiar Bush administration line. "America is at war with radical Islamists," declared Justice Antonin Scalia, who went so far as to say that the ruling "will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed."

I would like for him to explain WHY "America is at war with radical Islamists", I mean besides from his paranoid religious fundamentalist belief.

I will be very pleased to see Justice Antonin Scalia hang for his high crimes of treason. I don't see his perspective, but since he does SO CLEARLY (he was willing to throw a presidential election over it) I'd like to have him explain to us WHY.

Of course he already has. There have been mountains of it, I can't listen to it. It poisons my mind to listen too carefully to the twisting lies of lawyers. My mind shoots through all their deliberate fog and smoke screens like an arrow. Wsssk! Hits the target - we hope. If I can't see it, I aim from the sound of it. That's not so good in the wind.

Speaking of wind, I mentioned to a real Indian that they should reach out to scouts, specifically girl scouts since that was what I was involved and interested in, but both.

The kids do service projects, they could help the tribes get the soap, shampoo, food, blankets, housing, scholarships, exchange students, etc, it is a bridge building thing.

So I encouraged him to reach out to both the boy and girl scouts. A few hours later four boy scouts are killed by a tornado. That is not the kind of reaching out I was thinking of. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm grieving for those boy scouts, and their families. And the flood victims.

Our troops too. And the tortured detainees. And all the broken or tortured people in Iraq, that would be everyone. And their families, and their neighbors, the region.

I know ALL of this war is the fault of, in balance, a small handful of evil minded people. THEY must be detained, they must be impeached, they must be tried for their war crimes. I heard them say on PBS last night this ruling was going to open a flood gate of legal rights to people. I want to hear MORE about that.


Is the impeachment being handled in the Justice department in some closed or open way, or is it shelved?

I want to know. I want to see the person in charge on TV, on the record, telling us which it is - today. That is news.

Not asking that question is NOT news, it's political cover-up. A crime.

The reporters SHOULD be asking EVERY DAY what is the status of impeachment. If it is not on the table, the persons involved are committing an obvious criminal act of cover up. For reporters to not follow that lead is OUTRAGEOUS!

If a reporter goes along to get along with THAT, stops asking questions to find out why, then THEY are engaging in the cover up. Or so stupid they should be fired and their boss is doing the covering up, whatever.

Either way, terrorism is happening right before our eyes.

It SHOULD be covered in the press. It IS news.

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» I got shelved Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: I got shelved Posted by: wwarner44
» RE: wwarner44... Posted by: Quannah
Yeah Right
Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Jun 13, 2008 7:55 AM   
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LOL, that is the funniest thing I have ever heard. Dictator Bush IS the law. Dont we all know that? He says, and we do.

JT
Ultimate Anonymity

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Justice May Require Retribution - Re-Post
Posted by: Xynyx on Jun 13, 2008 8:17 AM   
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The people who were responsible for these excesses, these CRIMES, represent a constant and mortal threat to civilized, democratic society. The nature of their crimes, complete subversion of democracy and of justice, is the most heinous, vile, reprehensible (more adjectives!) imaginable ... even worse than mass murder. They can not be detained for long, because their partisan status will eventually serve to set them free, as political will wavers in the breeze. I have stated as much before... here I go again: I am not a proponent of capital punishment, but these people need to be tried for their crimes, and if found guilty, executed will all possible expediency, because they WILL strike again. The WORLD is not safe with such people having access to power.

If you want to see the death penalty perform the intimidating, inhibitive role its supporters have always claimed it performs, apply it to Subversion of Democracy and Justice. The people that commit those crimes are more afraid of dying than the people for whom they currently reserve that punishment.

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Naomi Wolf and over 80 lawyers for the Gitmo detainees endorse Obama
Posted by: foreverhope on Jun 13, 2008 8:33 AM   
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Naomi Wolf on her endorsement of Barack:

What is leadership? Leadership means getting out in front of where people are and waking them up. Right now, given these violent possible threats to us and our families, we are sleeping.

Which is why I am formally coming out of the closet with my support for Senator Barack Obama. Of all the candidates running now, he is the leader on understanding the threat to the Constitution and actually taking action, not just mouthing soundbites, on the need to deny torturers space in our nation and to restore the rule of law.

"Lawyers for Gitmo detainees endorse Obama," read a recent headline on the Boston Globe's political blog. In the article, reporter Charlie Savage notes that "More than 80 volunteer lawyers for Guantanamo Bay detainees today endorsed Illinois Senator Barack Obama's presidential bid. The attorneys said in a joint statement that they believed Obama was the best choice to roll back the Bush-Cheney administration's detention policies in the war on terrorism and thereby to 'restore the rule of law, demonstrate our commitment to human rights, and repair our reputation in the world community.'"

The lawyers who signed this letter -- prominent names on the list included Washington lawyer Thomas Wilner, retired federal appeals court judge John Gibbons, and retired Rear Admiral Donald Guter, who was the Navy's top JAG officer from 2000 to 2002 -- applauded Obama for having stood up in 2006 against aspects of the Military Commissions Act. Unfortunately, his fight was ultimately unsuccessful -- which is why we are all still in danger. But unlike other candidates he truly fought and he understood the nature of the danger: "When we were walking the halls of the Capitol trying to win over enough Senators to beat back the Administration's bill, Senator Obama made his key staffers and even his offices available to help us," the lawyers wrote. "Senator Obama worked with us to count the votes, and he personally lobbied colleagues who worried about the political ramifications of voting to preserve habeas corpus for the men held at Guantanamo. He has understood that our strength as a nation stems from our commitment to our core values, and that we are strong enough to protect both our security and those values. Senator Obama demonstrated real leadership then and since, continuing to raise Guantanamo and habeas corpus in his speeches and in the debates."

These are times that should try men's souls -- and women's also. In a closing society, a leader has to be willing to face down evil, engage it and call it by its name.

Remember: when activists started to push hard to raise awareness of the dangers of torture and indefinite detention, many on the Hill were scared to join the fight because it was then politically unpopular. But to me, if you are not really against torture -- always and under every political change in climate, and let us note that former torture victim and prisoner of war John McCain shamefully dropped his fight against the torture loopholes in the law as well -- then you are not really, in my view, fit to be an American President.

Gender has nothing to do with it. Race has nothing to do with it.

Integrity has something to do with it.

That is why Barack Obama has my vote. Of all the leading candidates, he is the only one on these issues who has consistently acted like a true American.

Naomi Wolf is the author of The End of America (Chelsea Green) and the co-founder of the American Freedom Campaign.

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Did you see the shrub's face?
Posted by: helenwheels on Jun 13, 2008 9:43 AM   
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I absolutely LOVED how angry he was while he petulantly announced this decision. He was seething. Finally, someone said NO to the spoilt snotty brat. It's about goddamn time.

Scalia is a thug of the lowest rung & I'm not surprised at all that he would dissent. He's a damn scumbag. That P.O.S. would use the Constitution to wipe his ass if he could.

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"CATHOLICS" ON THE COURT, IN CONGRESS
Posted by: fg on Jun 13, 2008 9:52 AM   
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The minority position was supported only by Roman-Catholic justices--all the Catholics on the Court except Justice Kennedy. Though theoretically justices are divorced from their personal views when deciding cases, such objectivity, as we all know, is more than can be expected of human nature.

One notices that Roman-Catholic Supreme-Court justices seem unaffected by the agenda of the Church where everything except fetal life is concerned (e.g., Justice Scalia's recent majority opinion on lethal injection). They're the reverse, oddly, of Catholic Democrats in Congress, who are unconcerned about "life" but fall in line on other aspects of Church teaching.

Ferdinand Gajewski

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Laws Are For Suckers
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jun 13, 2008 10:45 AM   
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I read that after President Bush said that he was disappointed with the decision, he said that he would abide by it.

As if it is up to him if he will abide by it or not!!

But of course, he is lying here too. Because he will NOT abide by the decision. Of course not. He will find some twisted legal theory authored by one of his demonic administration lawyers in order to avoid the law, or he will convince the "Democratically-led" Congress to change the law.
He WILL find a way to not abide by this decision. That is the only kind of thing the president is competent at doing.

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The awesome foursome
Posted by: bettyn on Jun 13, 2008 11:40 AM   
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of course went along with "L'il Massa" as usual. What the hell else is new? The OPUS DEI wing just needs one more member to turn this country into a totally fascist state where the Bushies rule by imperial decree.

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terrorist -justice for ALL!
Posted by: honor on Jun 13, 2008 1:29 PM   
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terrorist held for over six years now and not even charged? held on the word of terrorist! word" but no charges brought against them just held and american citizens are told they are terrorist period! terrorist who will kill millions now after this ruling? our goverment picking a person up" than say said person is terrorist period! end of story? what throw away key type action! american citizens next on the word terrorist only? rights" charges" proof" a persons rights to be heard" lock me up charge me and prove i'am guilty of something! but don't just lock me up and throw away the key!!! sounds responsible to me! argument? put ones own self in their place" you would not only want a day in court but your freedom too! to not be charged" to not know what fate or destiny or what the out come will be for you! thats what this is all about mcCain! rights!LIKE MAYBE YOU DID NOT HAVE IN COMMUNIST PRISON? (human rights)! yes sir them rights to know of your fate!! like what we eat too? fate like future! fate like supreme court of california over ruling majority on gay marriage? over ruling? unconstitutional? put on ballot 58.8 favor band on gay marriage! supreme court over rules the majority? unconsitutional!!! now on ballot again? something thats unconsitutional? just don't sound right!!! need a higher ruling on this issue that over rules majority! unconstitutional but put on the ballot AGAIN??? on ballot again SOMETHING SUPREME COURT OVER RULES ON? yes that word fate" seems like alot of americans are wondering about that word in todays new world order! INDEPENDENT michigan little big horn AMEN.

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Don't kid yourself this court is a disgrace and threat to our Republic
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Jun 13, 2008 2:09 PM   
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I wouldn't go over board applauding this historically disgraceful Supreme Court..!

For the most part those of this Court have done grave injury to our nation unlike any other in history ever and those more recent additions are amongst the worse additions ever in modern times especially Samuel Alito with whom I have personal experience and can testify to his being corrupt a criminal and a liar who perjured himself before the Judiciary Committee on multiple counts during his disgraceful appointment hearings which were a fraud and awarded a man who favors dictatorship with a seat upon our highest court..

Kennedy was crucial in this decision and he broke with his other fellow Federalist Society members so that this decision didn't go in favor of Unitary Tyranny further erosion of our Constitution and Rights along with the bill of Rights these Tories of the federalist Society exist to destroy as well as being prepared to upon hold the coming tyrannical crack downs by this criminal administration..

So there is nothing to celebrate our Republic is in the hands of this dangerous Tory swine treasonous cabal of corrupt and disingenuous lawyers and Federal Judges they are the greatest threat to our Republic ever in history and a much greater threat than al-Qaeda could ever be..

This decision got past by the skin of it's teeth, and is only due to Kennedy not having the proper Hard Core Fascist Intestinal Fortitude and or being of the fully pernicious nature of the rest of the Federalist Society Tory usurper swine traitors such as Altio, Roberts, Thomas and the dreaded Antoni Scalia..

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