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Rights and Liberties

Gun Rights and Our National Identity Crisis

By Daniel Lazare, The Nation. Posted April 22, 2008.


When it comes to the Second Amendment, Americans are largely at the mercy of 18th-century attitudes they don't know how to escape.
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Like the Third Amendment against the peacetime quartering of soldiers in private homes, the Second Amendment used to be one of those obscure constitutional provisions that Americans could safely ignore. Legal opinion was agreed: this relic of the late eighteenth century did not confer an individual right "to keep and bear arms," only a collective right on the part of the states to maintain well-regulated militias in the form of local units of the National Guard. While a few gun nuts insisted on their Second Amendment right to turn their homes into mini-arsenals, everyone else knew they were deluded. Everyone knew this because the Supreme Court had supposedly settled the matter by unanimously dismissing any suggestion of an individual right in 1939.

But now everyone knows something else. Ever since a University of Texas law professor named Sanford Levinson published a seminal article, "The Embarrassing Second Amendment," in the Yale Law Journal in 1989, the legal academy has had to take another look at a provision that Laurence Tribe, the doyen of liberal constitutionalists, described ten years earlier as having no effect on gun control and as "merely ancillary to other constitutional guarantees of state sovereignty." Now such comfy notions are out the window as the National Rifle Association's view that the Second Amendment confers an individual right to own guns gains ground. While some scholars, such as Mark Tushnet, author of the new study Out of Range, argue that an individual-rights reading still allows for extensive gun control, others are frank enough to admit they're not sure what this oddly constructed amendment does and does not allow (although they'll still hazard a guess). As a prominent constitutional scholar named William Van Alstyne once remarked, "No provision in the Constitution causes one to stumble quite so much on a first reading, or second, or third reading." It is as if the legal academy, shaking its head over the First Amendment, suddenly could not make up its mind as to whether that hallowed text protected free speech or prohibited it.

What's going on here? Surely a mere twenty-seven words, loosely tethered together by three commas and one period, can't be that impenetrable. But they are; and if ever there was a Churchillian "riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma," the Second Amendment is it.

Perhaps the best way to begin unraveling this puzzle is to think of the amendment not as a law but, with apologies to Tom Peyer and Hart Seely, as a bit of blank verse:

A well regulated Militia,

being necessary to the security of a free State,

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,

shall not be infringed.

It's rhythmic and also somewhat strange, as proper modern verse should be. As to what it actually means, the questions begin with "well regulated" in line one. The phrase is confusing because when Americans hear the word "regulation" or any of its cognates, they usually think of government restrictions on individual liberty. But if a government-regulated militia is necessary for a free society (the meaning, presumably, of "a free State"), then how can the amendment mandate an individual right that the same government must not infringe? It is as if the amendment were telling government to intervene and not intervene at the same time.

This is certainly a head-scratcher. Yet the questions go on. Another concerns line two, which, while asserting that the militia is "necessary to the security of a free State," does not pause to explain why. Perhaps the connection was self-evident in the eighteenth century, but it is certainly not in the twenty-first. Today, we can think of a lot of things that are important to the survival of a free society: democratic expression, honest and fair elections, a good educational system, and a sound and equitable economy. So why does the amendment "privilege" a well-regulated militia above all others?

Finally, there are the questions posed by lines three and four. Why "keep and bear" rather than just "bear"? What does "Arms" mean -- muskets, pistols, assault rifles, grenade launchers, nukes? Finally, concerning the phrase "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms," the individualist interpretation holds that eighteenth-century Anglo-Americans viewed this as part of a natural right of armed resistance against tyranny. But if this was the case, why put it in writing? After all, Americans were well armed in the aftermath of the Revolutionary War and hair-trigger sensitive to any new tyrannical threat. Why, then, approve an amendment acknowledging the obvious? After asking Americans to ratify a new plan of government, why did the founders then request that they assert their right to overthrow it?

Questions like these are the subject of Tushnet's Out of Range. With the Supreme Court poised to issue its first gun-rights decision in nearly seven decades in District of Columbia v. Heller, a case the Court heard on March 18 and that involves one of the most sweeping citywide gun bans in the country, Tushnet's brief but dense primer on the Second Amendment and its relationship to the gun-control battles of the last quarter-century could not be more timely. Unfortunately, it also could not be more frustrating. Tushnet, a professor at Harvard Law School, suffers from an excess of caution. Understandably, he is determined not to be one of those overconfident types who, as he puts it, are just "blowing smoke" in claiming to know precisely what the Second Amendment means. As a consequence, he advances a couple of possibilities as to what it might mean, explains why one interpretation may have an edge over the other and then announces that the whole question may be beside the point, since it has little to do with reducing gun-related crime. In fact, he argues that the long-running debate over the Second Amendment may be


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18th Century maybe; but human nature doesn't change
Posted by: OrlandoNative on Apr 22, 2008 6:28 AM   
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It may very well be true that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were written in the late 18th century; but the writers knew human nature quite well, and it hasn't changed.

One only needs to look at the government we have today.

Those folks didn't ratify the Second Amendment to insure that an overweening and/or tyrannical government didn't come to pass; they did so to insure that *if* it did; and *if* "the People" had the intestinal fortitude to do so; they would have the means to fight it both in the ballot boxes and; if necessary; on the ground.

I'd say that was pretty prescient of them.

Now, as to the 'gun control' issue. Even the framers of the Second Amendment; in other writings they did in support of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights; noted that this was for the 'lawful' people. Thus, I don't have a problem with 'background checks' designed to keep violent felons and the known mentally unstable from being able to purchase a firearm.

But everything else falls under the category of "shall not be infringed."

When I was young, "gun control" was being able to hit (consistently) what you were aiming at.

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right to arms doesn't depend on the Consititution or BofR
Posted by: scott@alter on Apr 22, 2008 7:49 AM   
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Remember, all you gun-banners out there -

The Constitution and BofR don't grant the right to arms. That is a UNIVERSAL HUMAN right and NO ONE (or gov't) has the moral authority to prevent anyone from possessing and using arms to defend oneself.

The US Constitution defines a gov't of LIMITED powers. And the POWER to disarm the citizens is not one granted to it. The 2nd A says only that the "right to keep and bear arm - shall not be infringed". The 2nd doesn't create the right.

People truly interested in "justice", which I think most liberals today would claim to be, should be the ones supporting the right to arms. That so many "liberals" today support reducing citizens to defenseless victims reveals that the modern liberal movement is far more totalitarian than their supposed bogeymen of the "right" (eg Bush, Cheney, etal). It is sad really, to realize that today's liberals would fit right in with Stalin's regime.

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Self-defense is relevant today, tomorrow....
Posted by: Harry Schell on Apr 22, 2008 12:11 PM   
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The thesis here is inaccurate.

The 2nd Amnendment is about the human right of self-defense (and access to the means) and how government must not infringe that right.

Obviously, there are plenty of poeple out there who wish to hurt others. To disarm the law abiding is a recipe for disaster, as the UK, Chicago and Washington DC have shown us.

That 2A is from the 18th century is irrelevant, because neither human nature nor the sanctity of human life have changed since then.

In fact, the words "arms, "keep" and "bear" are terms of art in law in philosophy relating to self-defense and its relationship to individual freedom from before the 1200's. Firearms were not even used at that time.

As long as man has the capacity for evil, there will be predation by individuals or groups, and those who are preyed upon have a human right to effective self-defense. This will not change when firearms are obsolete, either.

The author needs to rise above the anti-gun mantra, do some real homework to understand the Founder's thoughts, put the law-abiding on the pedestal they reserve for criminals.

Stop excusing evil, and stop offering solutions that clearly don't work.

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What's Wrong with That?
Posted by: JeffKnox on Apr 22, 2008 12:35 PM   
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It is astounding that you go through all of those twists and turns only to conclude that the concept that the government derives its powers from the people and that individuals are responsible for keeping government in its place are bad things.
Your example of New Jersey is simply mind boggling. You assume that the "Pitchfork Rebellion" was mindless drones being mad to be mad and not considering the consequences. It simply doesn't occur to you that government is overreaching - engaging in activities beyond their Constitutional limits - and that they must stop doing that. Firing wasteful and overreaching politicians for spending more of our money than we've allowed them to take, on projects and programs that we do not support, is not blind, mob mentality. It is a very reasonable response to those activities.
By the way, in the 18th century, "well regulated" meant properly functioning, or effective, not government controlled.
The gist of your analysis is excellent - the Second Amendment is indeed part of the checks and balances and it does indeed stem from the idea that individuals are responsible for their government, and I like your comparison between the Second Amendment and the Constitution itself. I hope that your theory about understanding the individual responsibility inherent in the Second Amendment and the nature of our responsibilities to the Constitution is correct and that we are about to see a renaissance of that philosophy because the current, big government, "nanny state," solution is a failure and will destroy this nation if not checked.

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Old Soldier
Posted by: Old Soldier on Apr 22, 2008 6:36 PM   
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With the Supreme Court hearing District of Columbia v. Heller, many people are asserting that the Right of the people to Keep and Bear Arms is dependent upon judicial interpretations of the Second Amendment.

That is totally incorrect!

The Second Amendment is a statement that the people’s Right to keep and bear arms, a Right that pre-existed the Constitution, can not be infringed in any way. The Amendment is a statement of the Supreme Law of the Land that no federal, state or local “law” may be enacted that will deprive the citizens of their Right to Keep and Bear arms.

The only argument required to substantiate this and to overrule all gun laws written anywhere in the United States is:
1. The Constitution of the United States is the supreme Law of the Land.
2. The Second Amendment to the Constitution is a part of the supreme Law of the Land.
3. The Congress and no state or lower jurisdiction may enact and/or enforce any law or
ordinance that is contrary to the Constitution.
4. Therefore, all laws written anywhere in the United States restricting the Right of the
people to keep and bear Arms are unconstitutional and, therefore, null and void.

There is written authority in the Constitution for each statement above and the Courts of the United States have upheld each.

I. The Constitution of the United States is the “supreme Law of the Land.”
Authority: Article VI of the Constitution of the United States.

II. The Second Amendment is a written part of the supreme Law of the Land. The Second Amendment and the other Amendments comprising the Bill of Rights became part of the Constitution in 1791.

III. The Congress and no state or lower jurisdiction may enact and/or enforce any law or ordinance that is contrary to the Constitution.

Authority: Article VI of the Constitution of the United States also prescribes: That everything that the Constitution pertains to, including the Amendments, overrules all state constitutions, laws, and ordinances and all lower jurisdictions’ laws and ordinances that are contrary to this “Law of the Land.”
Court Upheld: U.S. District Judge Sam A. Lindsay wrote on Monday, 21 May 2007, that an Anti-Immigrant Law passed by the community of Farmers Branch, Texas, is invalid and writes that the community can not “pass an ordinance that conflicts with federal law." citing the Supremacy Clause of The Constitution of the United States as the grounds.

Therefore, as specified in the Constitution of the United States and upheld by the Courts, All gun laws written anywhere in the United States restricting the right of the people to keep and bear Arms are null and void.

Some will continue to argue that all statutes and ordinances written regarding gun control are valid and the law of the land.

A general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. This is not true. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land and any statue, to be valid, must be in agreement with the Constitution. Any statute not in agreement with the Constitution is unconstitutional. An unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void.
Court Upheld: "All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution, are null and void." Chief Justice Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 5, U.S. (Cranch) 137, 174,176

In summary, all laws written anywhere in the United States that restrict the Right of the people to keep and bear Arms are contrary to the Second Amendment and, therefore, unconstitutional and null and void.

The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God. —
JOHN F. KENNEDY

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Like quartering soldiers?
Posted by: fsilber on Apr 23, 2008 4:50 AM   
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The author wrote: "Like the Third Amendment against the peacetime quartering of soldiers in private homes, the Second Amendment used to be one of those obscure constitutional provisions that Americans could safely ignore."

Excuse me, but is he saying that the federal government now DOES have the authority to quarter soldiers in private homes -- whether or not the family consents? Since when?

The only reason Americans do not think about this right, and the only reason it is never been confirmed by the Supreme Court, is that no Congress has dared to pass a law quartering soldiers in people's homes against their will. It is for the same reason that the Supreme Court has had so little to say about the 2nd Amendment -- until the 1930s no Federal Congress even considered infringing the individual right to keep and bear arms.

All rulings refusing to overturn state gun control laws, in contrast, derive from 19th century Jim Crow-era precidents holding that government at the state level was not bound by _any_ of the Bill of Rights (that's how we had slavery, and then segregation).

You didn't need modern legal scholars to tell you this. The truth was obvious to anyone bothering to read the original sources that NRA members have been citing for decades.

And yes, the difficulty of the majority to amend the Constitution was deliberate. That's why a simple majority was unable to protect the practice of Protestant daily prayer in the public schools; that's why The People were unable to have the government hang all communists in the McCarthy era.

The goal of the founders was not democracy but rather Liberty, and that required a degree of protection from a tyranny of the majority. That's why you must respect my choice to carry a gun.

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American
Posted by: yahshua on Apr 23, 2008 3:34 PM   
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Myself as all people are endowed with GOD given rights. The CONstitution only reiterates these rights,so the world will know not to "Tread on me". Here are statements below from our Founding Fathers. By the way, the Supreme court only ruled in 1939 that sawed off shot guns under 39 1/2 inches were illegal to own which was an error on their part since that type of shot gun was used by the military.Intentions of the Founding Fathers

Quotes from the Founding Fathers:
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
-Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria.

"...arms...discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. ...Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived the use of them."
-Thomas Paine.

"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
-Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8.

"The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
-Patrick Henry.

"To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them..."
-Richard Henry Lee writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic (1787-1788).

"The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms."
-Samuel Adams, debates & Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87.

"Arms in the hands of citizens (may) be used at individual discretion...in private self defense..."
-John Adams, A defense of the Constitutions of the Government of the USA, 471 (1788).

"...the people have a right to keep and bear arms."
-Patrick Henry and George Mason, Elliot, Debates at 185.

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
-George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426.

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and include all men capable of bearing arms."

-Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer (1788) at 169.

"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them."
-Zachariah Johnson, 3 Elliot, Debates at 646.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
-Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334 (C.J. Boyd, Ed., 1950).

"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
-Tench Coxe, Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution, under the pseudonym "A Pennsylvanian" in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1989 at col. 1.



"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
-Thomas Jefferson.

"They that can give up liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Frank

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Well, I must say, I am extremely heartened by the responses to this.....
Posted by: Prophit on Apr 23, 2008 3:44 PM   
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... commentary. I was getting depressed because I didn't think liberals and neocons would see the writing on the wall with respect to how this government is on the verge of being out of control.

When and if that happens, your going to wish you were armed, believe me when I tell you that. You will be helpless as will your children, relatives, neighbors and others. They do not have a very nice future planned for us, and we had better wake up to that fact.

If you read the writings of our founding fathers its like they are talking to us directly 230 years over time about infringement of our individual liberties, domestic enemies and being armed in order to protect those liberties so valiantly fought for.

You all have given me hope again and I am less depressed than I was before reading these responses to this poorly written and researched commentary.

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make my vote count
Posted by: rlasner@tampabay.rr.com on Apr 23, 2008 4:45 PM   
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10 out of 10 comments in favor of allowing gun ownership. Now that is a statement. This article is full of falsehoods. It lays out an argument on the writers feelings and not facts. First, you disarm the public, 2nd you establish yourself as dictator, and 3rd, you take away the right to vote.

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» damn right Posted by: Dboy
Liberal Ambivalence
Posted by: blackie4aces on Apr 23, 2008 5:16 PM   
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Let me first state that I am on the extreme left of the political spectrum in America, closer to a socialist than a liberal, but I have found a certain amount of common cause in the area of fundamental rights with libertarians on the right since the advent of the Clinton and Bush administrations.

When I got out of the army in 1972 I was very sure I never wanted to see another firearm again and I certainly did not want to own any. For a very long time, being an urban dweller and observer of the upward spiral in the number of violent gun crimes in the several cities I had lived, I was very much for strict gun control in connection with concealable handguns. This animus on my part extended to assault rifles as they became a weapon of choice of violent gangs and drug dealers. I really didn't give a shit when the players went down; the collateral damage bothered me a lot.

Over time, however, coming to grips with the inability of the various cities' police departments to actually protect anyone, I began to question some of my assumptions, but I still remained on the side of gun control, though with a little less conviction than previously.

In the last ten years I have seen the aggressiveness of police departments, police shootings, police abuses rise at an alarming rate in combination with an increase in police fire power. Encounters with heavily armed, fearful (trigger happy) police these days can be extremely dicey, and potentially dangerous situations, particularly if an individual belongs to an ethnic minority or does not appear to be wealthy or in any way influential. During Hurricane Katrina when armed Blackwater contractors were sent to New Orleans the ordinary citizen was at these people's mercy. I am not advocating fire fights with police over traffic tickets or even government contractors acting in some capacity related to legitimate policing. That's going to be a losing proposition. What I am wondering is the degree of vulnerability a community puts itself in that is totally disarmed and therefore irrevocably docile in the face of those who would use deadly force to intimidate them into submission?

It would be nice to think that the Constitution of the United States, that document inculcated with an 18th century attitude, did do all that was necessary to safeguard our rights and freedoms, but, frankly, I see it violated frequently. I see the local violations by government and police, and on a national level we are currently involved in a war that has lasted five years without war ever having been declared by the Congress, the only branch of government having the power to do so. And this is not the first war that we have become involved in without a declaration of war by the people's representatives. The right to privacy and the right to due process has been trashed by the Bush administration with impunity.

A European wit, I believe, said, In France the government does what it does because it is afraid of the people. In the United States the government does what it does because the people are afraid of the government.

In fairness it must be acknowledged that the gun laws in France and the rest of Europe and in Britain are much more restrictive than in the U.S. But it also must be noted that the police in those countries are much more restrained in their reaction to protests and street actions as well.

I am not saying that I believe, nor wish, that guns in every home are an answer. I would hope there would come a day when our Constitution and our freedoms were genuinely respected. Until that time (and this isn't nor ever was about hunting), however, I am a lot less sanguine about Americans surrendering their right to "keep and bear arms" than I have ever been in the past.


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treason
Posted by: vinnym24 on Apr 24, 2008 11:13 AM   
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


It's very simple as it was intended to be. I will translate for those who might manipulate it to further their evil agendas.

The people's right to own guns should not be infringed because their right to form a militia is necessary to defend their state and keep it free.

There is no other translation any ethical, neutral person can come up with. What part of
shall not be infringed" is hard to understand? If an out of control government becomes truly abusive it is our duty to "correct" it by any means necessary....and this one is pushing the limits each day. It is the definition of evil to take an oath to our founding documents and then subvert them.

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mixed feelings
Posted by: whealeydj on Apr 24, 2008 8:09 PM   
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It seems to me that the pro gun types on the alternet are all agreeing with each other and disregarding the article which shows the amendmant is complicated. State bill of rights are sometime better and I like my state Ohio's Bill of Rights, 4th clause, that affirms individual gun rights for defense and security, but also says a standing army is dangerous for liberty. If we still had 18th and 19th century American attitude toward the military we would not have the overseas adventures like Lebanon,Somalia,Grenada Iraq and Afghanistan. and a military budget larger than the rest of the world combined. I think those who cling to their gns and the 2nd amendmant are foolish given A)that you are more likely to shoor yourself or family member than a home invader and B) 1st,4th-8th and 14th amendmant which have been gutted by Bush. The police can always outgun you, but having an armed citizenry may be the last bastion against government tyranny.

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» RE: mixed feelings Posted by: Dboy
individual vs collective rights
Posted by: Dboy on Apr 30, 2008 3:33 PM   
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All of the other amendments are individual rights...therefore one can conclude than the 2nd was also designed as an individual right as well.

As long as democrats continue to attack personal freedoms (especially the right to defend yourself) they will continue to lose elections.

It seems that both the democrats as well as republicans want to take away personal freedoms. It's just that they go after different ones.

Allowing the government a monopoly on firepower, and removing an individuals ability for self-defense (from home invasion, rape, robbery, or government intrusion) is an extremely dangerous and stupid idea.

Look at whats happened to the US government in the last 8 years.. They've managed to dismantle most of what used to make this a great country and they've replaced it with a fascist police state. Can you even IMAGINE what they'd do if we were unarmed??????

Americans may be stupid, but they'll never be stupid enough to disarm. You really think in these dark days, and in the Dark Age ahead, that people are going to just volunteer to give up the only real protection they have?


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