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The Torture Election: Fighting for the Soul of the American Psychological Association

By Jeffrey S. Kaye, AlterNet. Posted April 23, 2008.


In the race for the presidency of the APA, an anti-torture candidate is beating the odds.
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In a surprising turn of events, New York psychologist Steven Reisner won over 30% of the votes in the mail balloting for nominations for the presidency of the American Psychological Association (APA), as announced at the beginning of April. This represented more votes than any other candidate running.

Dr. Reisner, a psychoanalyst, is a Senior Faculty member and Supervisor at the International Trauma Studies Program, an Adjunct Professor of Psychology and Education at Columbia University, and a consultant to the United Nations on stress and trauma. As a key leader of Psychologists for an Ethical Psychology, he is also a leading critic of APA's position on torture and interrogations.

A number of APA members see Reisner's showing as a great victory for critics of APA's position of allowing psychologists to participate in Bush's "war on terror" interrogations. Reisner received 1,765 votes, four hundred more than Robert E. McGrath, the next most popular candidate. The impressive numbers are testimony to two years of anti-torture activism within APA, involving scores of dedicated professionals. The electoral results guarantee that Dr. Reisner will be on the ballot for APA president next October.

All told, however, the vast majority of votes still went to candidates who have very different positions on interrogations. Moreover, there are signs that some APA office holders and loyalists are hostile to Reisner's candidacy. One inside source says that a top member of the California Psychological Association -- a state affiliate of APA -- called it "despicable" that Reisner was running for APA president, after all he's done to "disrupt" that organization.

The APA ostensibly takes a hard line against torture. But it refuses to forbid its membership from working at Pentagon or CIA prison sites that deny its prisoners basic human rights, like habeas corpus, and with documented histories of abuse and torture. Amy Goodman, in a recent column, summarized the battle within APA to turn the organization away from collaboration with governmental interrogators. The story of this collaboration, and how psychologists came to be key members of the Behavioral Science Consultation Teams (BSCTs, popularly called "biscuits") at Guantánamo and elsewhere, has been told in great detail by myself, psychologist Stephen Soldz, and writers Katherine Eban, Jane Mayer, Arthur Levine, and Mark Benjamin, among others. The narrative is as dense or as simple as one wishes to make it, and depends how deeply one looks into the history of U.S. torture.

The APA's shifting position on interrogations is rooted in a long commitment to serve the national security apparatus of the United States. That commitment has been reflected in the current APA election, where Dr. Reisner appears as the first true candidate of change on this issue.

The Candidates: The Psychopharmacology Doctor

While Reisner received the plurality of votes in the first round of APA balloting, second place went to Robert E. McGrath at 1,340 votes. (Only 3-4% of APA members seem to have cast nominating ballots in this election.) McGrath runs a postdoctoral program in psychopharmacology at Fairleigh Dickinson University, and was president of APA's Division 55, the American Society for the Advancement of Pharmacotherapy. (APA is a federated organization, divided into 53 professional divisions; each division, along with representatives to the state and provincial psychological associations, is represented on APA's Council of Representatives.)

McGrath has said little on the record regarding APA's interrogation policy, though he did write a letter to the house APA organ, the Monitor, last September on "psychologists' military roles":

In response to recent claims that psychologists have been involved in torture and abusive interrogations, some psychologists are now calling for a complete ban on any involvement in military interrogations. I am troubled by these claims, but I am also troubled by two questions concerning this proposed solution: By extension, shouldn't psychologists withdraw from all coercive interrogations, including those by law enforcement agencies? Don't further restrictions in the diversity of individuals involved in such interrogations increase the potential for abuse even further?
One wonders how objective Dr. McGrath is on this issue, given Division 55 is largely devoted to teaching psychologists psychopharmacology and lobbying for prescription rights for psychologists. The practice, which has been fought tooth and nail by the psychiatric establishment, has found its greatest support in the military, which established a Psychopharmacology Demonstration Project in 1989 to train military psychologists to prescribe. (In an article on psychologists and torture in Vanity Fair last year, Katherine Eban looked at the possibility of a "quid pro quo" between APA and the military, in which APA would give "its stamp of approval to military interrogations" in agreement for the Pentagon allowing "psychologists -- who, unlike psychiatrists, are not medical doctors -- to prescribe medication, dramatically increasing their income.")

McGrath's opposition to pulling psychologists out of Guantánamo and other military/CIA interrogation centers is manifest. Reading his letter, psychologist Martha Davis, a visiting scholar at John Jay School of Criminal Justice, was struck by how APA's position has totally changed the way psychologists view their professional role when it comes to interrogations. "The APA has so successfully finessed this business," Davis wrote on a listserve of APA critics, "that most people hearing about the interrogations and psychology controversy, including psychologists, think that psychologists 'do' or supervise interrogations of criminal suspects in the US. THEY DO NOT … There is no mention of interrogation work in the ethics code. You won't find panels on doing interrogations in forensic psychology conference programs. Psychologists do not have the authority to 'do' interrogations or to supervise them in the US."

The Military Nominee?

The author of Jews in Blue: The Jewish American Experience in Law Enforcement, and consultant "for the police and law enforcement community since 1983," Jack Kitaeff, Ph.D, JD, was a military psychologist (as a Major) in the late 1970s to early 1980s. Both his psychological internship and postdoctoral residency were in military settings. Currently, he is Secretary-Treasurer-Elect for the Police and Public Safety Section of Div. 18 (Psychologists in Public Service).

While Dr. Kitaeff does not appear to have made a public statement on the current controversy on APA and interrogations, he did speak about his work and his views of himself as a "patriot" in an interview in 2006 at FrontPage Magazine, a well-known right-wing neo-conservative outlet run by David Horowitz's Freedom Center. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to guess where Kitaeff, who received 1,128 votes and third place in APA voting, probably stands on psychologist staffing of military interrogations.

The Insiders

Rounding out the final five nominees are Ronald H. Rozensky, PhD and Carol E. Goodheart, EdD, who received 1,057 and 134 votes, respectively. Goodheart was a last-minute write-in candidate; last year she came in second in the nomination balloting, behind eventual presidential winner, James Bray. Reisner, who also ran, failed to make the top five in 2007. Reportedly, Goodheart wasn't going to run in 2008, but she appears to have changed her mind. According to one APA insider, many on APA Council see her as a major competitor to Dr. Reisner in the upcoming election.

Goodheart is, as Steven Reisner once labeled her, an "APA stalwart." A psychotherapist in private practice, and a clinical supervisor in the psychology training program at Rutgers, she has served on the APA Board of Directors, and most recently was APA Treasurer. Currenly, she's working with APA President-elect Bray on his 2009 Presidential Task Force on the Future of Psychology Practice. Is part of that future staffing the BSCTs for the military at Guantánamo and elsewhere?

When psychologists mobilizing to withhold their dues from APA in protest against APA's interrogation policy queried Dr. Goodheart about her position, she replied:
I know that some psychologists in good conscience and good faith want APA also to prohibit psychologists from any participation whatsoever in military interrogations. There is serious debate within APA about the appropriate role for psychologists and I do not know if we will ever be able to reach total agreement. I, along with the majority of the Council of Representatives, voted against a moratorium, after listening carefully and considering all views seriously. As my own act of personal conscience, in the hope that we will be able to influence policy and practices related to interrogations, I believe that we must support psychology's promotion of ethical interrogations to prevent violence, safeguard detainees' welfare, and facilitate communications with them. We must stay engaged and work with the people, both military and non-military, who are working with great dedication to prevent torture and other forms of cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment and punishment.
In other words, as one prominent member of APAs Division of Psychoanalysis put it:
She feels that to exclude psychologists from morally problematic places may leave prisoners even more vulnerable, and she argues that defining psychologists' presence as unethical would jeopardize ethical professionals who have been in this situation.
This makes Goodheart's stance on psychologists and interrogation a mirror image of APA's official position: psychologists make interrogations safer for detainees. Yet overwhelming evidence implicates psychologists in both the construction and implementation of a torture paradigm that emphasizes sensory deprivation and overstimulation, sleep deprivation, inculcation of debility, psychological regression, and dependency. Furthermore, psychologists have been specifically singled out as the agents responsible for reverse-engineering the military's torture resistance program, SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape), in order to teach military interrogators coercive forms of interrogation. This was documented, no less, by the Department of Defense's Office of the Inspector General in a report on detainee abuse, declassified last year.

The news hasn't gotten through to a final candidate, Ronald H. Rozensky, Ph.D. Dr. Rozensky has a resume a mile long. Former Chair of APA's Board of Professional Affairs, President of the Illinois Psychological Association, award-winning Outstanding International Psychologist, and co-author of Psychological Assessment in Medical Settings, Rozensky is a major lobbyist for governmental money for psychologists, supporting especially research in neuroscience, functional MRI and space programs. Concerned, like the APA honcho he is, in expanding the role of psychologists in particular societal institutions, he is worried that the controversy over military interrogations will spill over to domestic correctional settings, considered by APA a "proliferating" source of psychologist jobs. According to Dr. Rozensky:
… current discussions about psychologists' roles in interrogation in the military have implications within organized psychology for those psychologists working within the correctional system. It is key that our field recognize the important role that psychologists in the correctional system play in assuring ethical treatment of individuals remanded to the system and that information obtained from those individuals is factual and useful.
Whither APA?

Steven Reisner's candidacy for president represents a significant challenge to the status quo of APA governance. While all the other candidates for APA president support the continued presence of psychologists as an integral part of Defense Department and CIA interrogations, Reisner says no:
When leaders of other health professions reject all participation in detainee abuse, and our leaders justify participation, I am ashamed of our profession …
My candidacy calls for a clear departure from the complicity of psychologists in state-sponsored abuses of human rights, whether these take place at Guantánamo, CIA black sites, or domestic supermax prisons.
I have been told that psychologists might fear for their jobs if we hold to a principled stance on detainees' basic human rights. I fear for our nation and our profession if we don't.
Whether Steven Reisner's candidacy for APA president represents the high-water mark for opposition to the pro-military APA bureaucracy, or the beginning of a real sea change within the civil institutions of U.S. society regarding complicity in torture and other criminal, unethical practices of the government, remains to be seen. If Reisner is able to carry the presidential vote, he will still have to contend with a ruling apparatus that remains committed to cementing its ties with the Department of Defense and the CIA.

But these are challenges that lie in the future. Right now, Dr. Reisner and his supporters are riding a wave of optimism that things can change. His electoral showing demonstrates that, within APA, critics of torture and interrogations are making a real impact. In the big picture, the future of APA is likely tied to how these same issues play out in the larger society, especially the U.S. presidential race. For now, however, Reisner's supporters can give themselves a hearty congratulations, even as a longer, larger, higher hill to climb lies before them.

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Jeffrey Kaye is a psychologist active in the anti-torture movement. He works clinically with torture victims at Survivors International in San Francisco, Calif. His blog is Invictus; as "Valtin," he also regularly blogs at Daily Kos, Docudharma, American Torture, Progressive Historians, and elsewhere.

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The APA needs a boot I cannot swing but I will try!
Posted by: Nightstallion on Apr 23, 2008 4:51 AM   
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Condoning a school of thought in which brain surgery can equal healing is the height of ignorance and the bastion of stupidity. No so called "necessary surgical reduction of a tendency toward violence” has ever worked. It appears to at first but then the “patient” begins a slow trek searching for recovery of that which is lost. I have watched this process it is pathetic, painful, and angering to me; while being frustrating maddening and impossible for the “patient”.

These people are victims of something that should not exist. Brain Tumors yes, when all else fails then have it out! But the APA cannot do this following justice:>

I swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepios and Hygeia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfill according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant:
To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art - if they desire to learn it - without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken an oath according to the medical law, but no one else.
I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.
I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.
I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.
Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.
What I may see or hear in the course of the treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep to myself, holding such things shameful to be spoken about.
If I fulfill this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.

To Do NO HARM, WAS THE ORIGINAL OATH!!
You lying sacks of effluent have done the exact opposite with your Psychosurgery. In a sane age, you will be jailed as mutilators, Vivisectionists, and murderers. I have seen your hemispherectomies, corpus callosum divisions, leucotomies and so called lobotomies failures all! Stupid mutilations! You are protected criminals because humanity has not progressed beyond the knuckle dragging stage! You may be beyond the law of the land but you are not beyond my law and eventually there will be a class action suit against all of you.

Thanks for reading and have a nice day hypocrites.

Nightstallion

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Psychologists are at the heart of Propaganda Inc.
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 23, 2008 7:44 AM   
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There is a pretty good argument that these psychologists have done far more damage to American society than almost any other scientific profession.

These are the people who train the manipulation experts who work for public relations industry - all are "psychologically minded."

And this is particularly evident when you read the official press releases of the pro-torture APA people- they read like slick propaganda releases. Quite a few psychologists have gone on to work for the various PR agencies, from Hill&Knowlton to Burson-Marsteller to the Pentagon Office of Information.

It's not at all surprising that these people are now angling to get the ability to write prescriptions - a stance that pharmaceutical corps are probably very excited about.

And then you have the situation in which psychologists participated in torture of detainees - sick. There is another name for this whole institution - Mindf*ckers Incorporated. That's probably the best and most concise explanation of what these creeps are really up to.

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» Are you a Scientologist? Posted by: fanny666
The Lunatics have Taken over the Asylum
Posted by: Chevaliere on Apr 23, 2008 8:26 AM   
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That there are ANY psychologists or psychiatrists in this day and age that either support or ignore torture only tells us that we have regressed to a state similar to that in Russia under Stalin where thugs were given degrees and allowed to "experiment" on prisoners and to declare crazy any individual Stalin didn't like. A study of psychiatry under Russian State Corporatism AKA Communisim is very instructive.

See also:

Political Ponerology: A Science of Evil Applied for Political Purposes

Trick of the Psychopath's Trade: Make Us Believe the Evil Comes From Others

A Structural Theory of Narcissism and Psychopathy

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Next book on my shelf:
Posted by: photon's feather on Apr 23, 2008 8:30 AM   
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Psychiatrists - the Men Behind Hitler:
the Architects of Horror

by:
Thomas Roeder
Volker Kubilius

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» My affiliations: Posted by: photon's feather
US Detainees Involuntarily Drugged
Posted by: fanny666 on Apr 23, 2008 9:12 AM   
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US Detainees Involuntarily Drugged

From the best blog on the subject of psychologists' role in war and interrogation.

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Not an aberration, but a long-standing policy - hard to believe?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 23, 2008 11:49 AM   
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Then you might want to read this:
Alfred McCoy on the CIA's road to Abu Ghraib, 2004: Torture's Perverse Pathology

"In April 2004, the American public was stunned by televised photographs from Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison showing hooded Iraqis stripped naked, posed in contorted positions, and visibly suffering humiliating abuse while U.S. soldiers stood by smiling. As the scandal grabbed headlines around the globe, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld quickly assured Congress that the abuses were "perpetrated by a small number of U.S. military," whom New York Times columnist William Safire soon branded "creeps.""

"These photos, however, are snapshots not of simple brutality or even evidence of a breakdown in "military discipline." What they record are CIA torture techniques that have metastasized like an undetected cancer inside the U.S. intelligence community over the past half century. A survey of this history shows that the CIA was, in fact, the lead agency at Abu Ghraib, enlisting Army intelligence to support its mission. These photographs from Iraq also illustrate standard interrogation procedures inside the gulag of secret CIA prisons that have operated globally, on executive authority, since the start of the President's war on terror."

"Looked at historically, the Abu Ghraib scandal is the product of a deeply contradictory U.S. policy toward torture since the start of the Cold War. At the UN and other international forums, Washington has long officially opposed torture and advocated a universal standard for human rights. Simultaneously, the CIA has propagated ingenious new torture techniques in contravention of these same international conventions, a number of which the U.S has ratified. In battling communism, the United States adopted some of its most objectionable practices -- subversion abroad, repression at home, and most significantly torture itself."

"From 1950 to 1962, the CIA conducted massive, secret research into coercion and the malleability of human consciousness which, by the late fifties, was costing a billion dollars a year. Many Americans have heard about the most outlandish and least successful aspect of this research -- the testing of LSD on unsuspecting subjects. While these CIA drug experiments led nowhere and the testing of electric shock as a technique led only to lawsuits, research into sensory deprivation proved fruitful indeed. In fact, this research produced a new psychological rather than physical method of torture, perhaps best described as "no-touch" torture."

"The Agency's discovery was a counterintuitive breakthrough, the first real revolution in this cruel science since the seventeenth century -- and thanks to recent revelations from Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, we are now all too familiar with these methods, even if many Americans still have no idea of their history. . ."


So, the fact of the matter is that the people who have been the guiding hand behind the APA have been involved in designing torture strategies for decades - not so different from the scary psychos in horror flicks who keep people in cages, the cold and unemotional types, people who lack some essential something...

"The heads - you're looking at the heads" - Apocalypse Now.

They only showed that Mr. Kurtz lacked restraint in the gratification of his various lusts, that there was something wanting in him - some small matter, which, when the pressing need arose, could not be found under his magnificent eloquence. Whether he knew of this deficiency himself I can't say. . . - Joseph Conrad, Heart of Darkness.

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What Are The Civilian Applications?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 23, 2008 1:26 PM   
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Psychiatrists and psychologists have saved many people's lives, however, so anyone who condemns the branch of medicine altogether is like someone who condemns all medical doctors because of the atrocities committed by a small number of German doctors during the Holocaust, for example.

Some people say therapy, some people say selective use of various drugs, some people say alternate between the two, - endless are the arguments of experts, and every patient is different - but >99% of people who go into it are doing so with good intentions.

What we are looking are here is a small group of people who have put their personal professional advancement over their basic medical ethics - though they might argue, not technically being MDs, that they are not bound by such ethics any more than a PhD grad student studying breast cancer is prohibited from sacrificing rats, dogs, monkeys - all in the name of a better future.

What other conclusion can one draw from looking at the photos of these "interrogation centers"?

My own specialty was biochemistry and microbiology, industrial applications of, but as a result I know some of the history of the eradication of infectious diseases, so let's put it this way.

Say you areJonas Salk, and you spend your life working to produce polio vaccine, and then one day you succeed - only to find that the government agency that has been funding you is really a Pentagon front who has already produced a biological weapon form of polio (or, say anthrax), and just wanted the vaccine so it could inoculate it's own soldiers before attacking some country with the bioweapon.

The modern form of anthrax vaccine was first developed in the United States in the 1940s and 1950s... the U.S. biowarfare program began in 1942, was publicly shut down by Nixon in 1969... anthrax responds rapidly to ciproflaxin, a widely available antibiotic, and the vaccine is quite dangerous and short-lived in its effect (6 months).

What would your responsibility as a member of your profession be in such a case? Go home, psycho-psychia-whatevers- you have a some serious housecleaning to do.

P.S. It must be said, however, that the whole field in the same position that general doctors were in during the 19th century. "Don't trust those hacks" - not such bad advice in 1800, was it?

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» Psychology is not medicine Posted by: drjasonmd
i hope apa members do the right thing
Posted by: whealeydj on Apr 23, 2008 8:25 PM   
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and develop the ethical guidlines condemning psychological professionals who use their knowledge to persecute detainees prisoners and suspects.

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oldfreedondude
Posted by: oldfreedomdude on Apr 24, 2008 4:30 AM   
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It is pretty discouraging. We've all grown up hearing how bad the Nazis were, and now the US/Israel are doing the same things, with, possibly less justification. The membership of the APA has a very high proportion of Jews, and if they criticize the US/Israel destruction of Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, torture, the use of cluster bombs, etc., they would be criticizing Israel, and most of them can't do that.

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"The Psychopharmacology Doctor" Responds
Posted by: bobmcgrath on Apr 29, 2008 7:37 AM   
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I am Robert McGrath, one of the individuals discussed in this piece. After many years' involvement in progressive causes, I'm disturbed to be characterized as a supporter of militarism and torture, especially because Dr. Kaye never bothered to contact me to find out my position. That's particularly troubling given my email address (mcgrath@fdu.edu) is available on three website I know of, so checking the facts wouldn't have been very hard. For the record:

1. Dr. Kaye states "In an article on psychologists and torture in Vanity Fair last year, Katherine Eban looked at the possibility of a 'quid pro quo' between APA and the military, in which APA would give 'its stamp of approval to military interrogations' in agreement for the Pentagon allowing 'psychologists -- who, unlike psychiatrists, are not medical doctors -- to prescribe medication, dramatically increasing their income.'" What he doesn't mention is that Eban found no evidence of such a deal, and she makes it pretty clear this was an unsubstantiated hypothesis from one of her sources. If Dr. Kaye had asked, I would have gladly stated I would find such a deal morally reprehensible, and no one who knows anything about the facts has ever heard of such a deal. Using the fact that Eban "looked at it" to imply such a deal exists strikes me as shoddy. Shame on you.

2. A letter I wrote on this issue is quoted in the article. Note that my reservations were stated as questions. This was purposeful: they were intended as a basis for discussion. I was even encouraged to submit the letter by a well-known critic of current APA policy who understood it in this light. I will admit I have grave reservations about further restricting access of mental health professionals to detainees, because evil occurs more easily in secret. In fact, another point made in Eban's article is that the abusive interrogation of Zubaydah only began when the one psychologist who provided a balancing influence withdrew: "With Shumate gone, the interrogators were free to unleash what they called the 'sere school' techniques." I'm not naive enough to believe all psychologists are ethically pure. I do believe most are good people, and that broader rather than less access to detainees by psychologists, physicians, human rights activists, and anyone else who can get in is the best defense against torture. I would gladly consider an opposing view--I have great sympathy for the ideal that good people should refuse to participate in ethically questionable situations--but I'm deeply concerned that when reasonable people refuse to be involved, then only the unreasonable are left to make the decisions. How that makes me an apologist for torture I'm not sure.

3. Which leads me to my final point. I am very troubled that questioning the proposals of certain individuals gets translated into supporting torture. The article never mentions that the American Psychological Association has already adopted a resolution strongly opposing torture, and the organization's concerns about the mistreatment of detainees has been conveyed to Congress. At this point, the only issue of disagreement seems to be about whether psychologists should be categorically forbidden to work in settings that do not ensure the protection of human rights as agents of the organization running the setting. That is hardly equivalent to saying our leaders "justify participation [in detainee abuse]," as the article suggests. This sort of demeaning all positions but one's own undermines real discussion of these very important issues. In the future, I hope Dr. Kaye will avail himself of the opportunity to talk to people rather than just making assumptions about their views. Reasoned discussion is the best way I know to foster a more ethical society.

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