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Pioneering Blackwater Protesters Given Secret Trial and Criminal Conviction

By Jeremy Scahill, AlterNet. Posted January 29, 2008.


Protesters who re-enacted one of Blackwater's worst civilian massacres in Iraq got jail time, while the real killers remain free.
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Last week in Currituck County, N.C., Superior Court Judge Russell Duke presided over the final step in securing the first criminal conviction stemming from the deadly actions of Blackwater Worldwide, the Bush administration's favorite mercenary company. Lest you think you missed some earth-shifting, breaking news, hold on a moment. The "criminals" in question were not the armed thugs who gunned down 17 Iraqi civilians and wounded more than 20 others in Baghdad's Nisour Square last September. They were seven nonviolent activists who had the audacity to stage a demonstration at the gates of Blackwater's 7,000-acre private military base in North Carolina to protest the actions of mercenaries acting with impunity -- and apparent immunity -- in their names and those of every American.

The arrest of the activists and the subsequent five days they spent locked up in jail is more punishment than any Blackwater mercenaries have received for their deadly actions against Iraqi civilians. "The courts pretend that adherence to the law is what makes for an orderly and peaceable world," said Steve Baggarly, one of the protest organizers. "In fact, U.S. law and courts stand idly by while the U.S. military and private armies like Blackwater have killed, maimed, brutalized and destroyed the livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis."

A month after the Nisour Square massacre, on Oct. 20, a group of about 50 activists gathered outside Blackwater's gates in Moyock, N.C. There, they reenacted the Nisour Square shooting and staged a "die-in," involving a vehicle painted with bullet marks and blood. The activists stained their clothing with fake blood and dramatized the deadly shooting spree. Some of the demonstrators marked Blackwater's large welcome sign -- with the company's bear claw in a sniper scope logo -- with red hand prints. The demonstrators believed these "would be a much more appropriate logo for Blackwater," according to Baggarly. "We're all responsible for what is happening in Iraq. We all have bloody hands." It took only moments for the local police to respond to the protest, the first ever at Blackwater's headquarters. In the end, seven were arrested.

The symbolism was stark: Re-enact a Blackwater massacre, go to jail. Commit a massacre, walk around freely and perhaps never go to jail. All seven were charged with criminal trespassing, six of them with an additional charge of resisting arrest and one with another charge of injury to real property. "We feel like Blackwater is trespassing in Iraq," Baggarly later said. "And as for injuring property, they injure men, women and children every day." The activists were jailed for five days and eventually released pending trial.

When their day in court arrived, on Dec. 5, the activists intended to put Blackwater on trial, something the Justice Department, the military and the courts have systematically failed to do. Their action at Blackwater, the activists said, was in response to war crimes, the killing of civilians and the fact that no legal system -- civilian or military -- was holding Blackwater responsible. The Nisour Square massacre, they said, "is the Iraq war in microcosm."

But District Court Judge Edgar Barnes would have none of it. So outraged was he at Baggarly, the first of the defendants to appear before him that day, that the judge cleared the court following his conviction. No spectators, no family members, no journalists, no defense witnesses remained. The other six activists were tried in total secrecy -- well, secret to everyone except the prosecutors, sheriffs, government witnesses and one Blackwater official. Judge Barnes swiftly tried the remaining six activists behind closed doors and convicted them all. It was as though Currituck, N.C., became Gitmo for a day.

It's not unusual for a judge to clear a courtroom when there is a disruption by the public. Nor is it rare for judges to try to prevent activists from turning the tables and attempting to put the government -- or in this case a mercenary company -- on trial. But witnesses that day report that there was no disruption -- and the defendants say they were immediately cut off when they strayed from the narrow scope of the trespass charge to discuss Blackwater's actions or the war. So why clear the courtroom? That may be a question for Judge Barnes in the end, but it's hard not to view his conduct through the same veil of secrecy that shrouds all of Blackwater's actions -- and the seemingly endless lengths to which the Bush administration will go to protect Blackwater.


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Jeremy Scahill, an independent journalist who reports frequently for the national radio and TV program Democracy Now!, has spent extensive time reporting from Iraq and Yugoslavia. He is currently a Puffin Writing Fellow at The Nation Institute. Scahill is the author of Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army.

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Bush and Cheney's Private SS
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jan 29, 2008 1:22 AM   
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Blackwater is a company that is so att odds with the historic American view of governance, it should be put out of business immediately. There is not a single piece of paper from our founding fathers to be found in the National Archives (whether in documents of public policy or in private correspondence) that would have tolerated - or even hinted at - the idea that a private company could have the means at its disposal whereby it could - in the case of a "national emergency" - make war on other Americans at the behest of a murderous, half-witted and unbalanced chief executive....ummm....sort of like the one we've got now.

I'm telling you, one does not need to be a constitutional scholar to figure this stuff out, folks. This ain't rocket science, kiddies; this is Civics 101.

The only way >We, the People can be spared the threat that a semi-facist organization like Blackwater poses to our democracy, is by challenging its very existence in the courts. Unfortunately, that challenge may have to wait until there is a Democrat in the White House who is able to appoint one - or more justices of a reasonable, moderate judicial temperament. To even expect some of the reactionary fools currently sitting on the Supreme Court (Scalia and Uncle Thomas come readily to mind) to act in accordance with the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution is wishful thinking, to be sure. Enlightenment on that court is desperately in order.

Tom Degan

Look! A Real, Live Democrat!

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» my fear is that . . . Posted by: purplewarrior
» RE: my fear is that . . . Posted by: Xynyx
» RE: my fear is that . . . Posted by: EinMD
» RE: my fear is that . . . Posted by: EinMD
» Mitt Romney's Private SS Posted by: US Citizen
» RE: Bush and Cheney's Private SS Posted by: Cybershaman
» Abu Ghraib Posted by: 2dogarage
» My thoughts exactly, Tom Posted by: sausage
» RE: Where is Ron Paul? Posted by: Dboy
» agreed! Posted by: undrgrndgirl
» RE: What do you expect Posted by: donl51
One more thought:
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jan 29, 2008 1:53 AM   
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I am a pasifist by nature. I have never advocated violence nor do I do so now. Non-violent, passive resistance, when applied lovingly and with great skill and care, can move mountains. Mahatma Gandhi proves that in his day, as did, more recently, Martin Luther King. Non violence is, indeed in perfect compliance with the words of Jesus Christ in the Sermon on the Mount:

"Blessed are the peacemakers"

It is the only path that, I believe, a true Christian can possibly take. And yet, having said that, here is something else that also needs to be said:

When Blackwater finally brings its twisted little act to your city, you have the right the constitutionally guaranteed right - if not a God-given one - to shoot back.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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» RE: One more thought: Posted by: Lauren
» Good to see people on the left waking up Posted by: meetmeineleusis
» RE: One more thought: Posted by: laoma
» What a disappointment... Posted by: fsuthai
» RE: What a disappointment... Posted by: Tom Degan
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» RE: One more thought: Posted by: laoma
» RE:Good luck Tom! Posted by: donl51
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» But What Will We Shoot With, Tom? Posted by: Stoney 12+1
Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Jan 29, 2008 2:07 AM   
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Under the current system, not a single participant in the Bush conspiracy is going to be punished and the same pattern of lawlessness is going to happen over and over and over again.

A Vote of Confidence Amendment will enable the American voting public to dismiss and hold over for criminal prosecution any elected official who fails in their obligation to serve the people of the United States.

VOCA, now

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» RE: Terrorist - a question Posted by: Julian
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Blackwater is what the US deserves
Posted by: Bobsays on Jan 29, 2008 2:30 AM   
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When you have a broken political system, that when attacked by islamic militants, is unable to engage with the issues, then the government will of course turn to private companies to get the job done.

If there had been BEFORE 9/11 honest debate and action on the issue of islamic militancy in the world, then open and transparent actions could have been taken to counter it.

But remember back them? People were more interested in semen stains on dresses and setting up Petfood.com, than addressing really difficult issues in the world.

You can see the same problem in the UK: a country that still denies its role in enabling this curse on the modern world. When the public behaves like spoilt children, then the real adults in the world still need to care of business. And right now, the business is protecting the west and preserving resources for economic health until such time that somebody invents a way to get energy from a water molecule or from air.

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» The UK ... Posted by: harryf200
» RE: Bobsays = Neocon Posted by: Dboy
The DARK Army!
Posted by: williameon on Jan 29, 2008 2:54 AM   
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The Dark Army is an abomination!
Our Militia is being sacrificed in Iraq while King George II's Dark Army is getting stronger here now.
Trillions for Halliburton/Carlyle and
Nothing for you!
While our Militia is being slaughtered in Bush’s evil WAR.
Our Troops go out on patrol like
Sitting Ducks!
The Dark Army causes trouble and gets paid more than three times as much just to guard them!
Keep the casualties high!
Justify their sacrifice by spilling even more innocent blood.
How absurd?
The Dark Army must be disbanded.
A Mercenary Army on American soil is in direct violation to The Constitution.
Mercenaries have always spelled trouble for America from day ONE.
From King George III’s Prussian soldiers we fought during the American Revolution,
To his insane descendent:
King George II’s
Dark Army causing trouble now.
They are an abomination.
Who is supplying them with weapons, how and why?
They must be ordered to stand down and disband.
All their weapons must be confiscated.
Stop their funding immediately.
They are Dead Eye's and The Shrub's Private Army.
Their Private SS.
A Dark Army beyond Government control on American soil,
Spells trouble for U.S.

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» RE: The DARK Army! Posted by: Lauren
» RE: The DARK Army! Posted by: peacefullaim
» The Grand Dellusion! Posted by: williameon
» RE: The Grand Dellusion! Posted by: peacefullaim
Do we have an appeals court system or not in America?
Posted by: Shenonymous on Jan 29, 2008 3:37 AM   
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Wouldn't the convicted protesters have the right to appeal the conviction even if they spent the time in jail? It would be cleared off their record or at least get more publicity for the "injustice" dealt to them.

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Thank you Blackwater activists
Posted by: Kafwood on Jan 29, 2008 3:46 AM   
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We are all in debt to these activists, who risk everything doing this work. They give up their livelihoods, their "family time," and their freedom to answer the call of conscience. They put their bodies on the line, time and time again living out the radical compassion of Christ's teachings.

When I reflect on my careful sort of activism and compare it to these fellow travelers, I feel ashamed and, oddly, hopeful.

And thank you Jeremy Scahill for putting this brave Blackwater action in the news - even if it only reaches the alternative news circuit, at least this community will (finally!) become aware of it.

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Court Continues to Violate International Law
Posted by: erichwwk on Jan 29, 2008 3:57 AM   
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The Nuremberg War Crime Tribunal, in 1950, released the following statement to the citizens of the world:

Individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience. Therefore [individual citizens] have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring."

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XXX pat
Posted by: davy on Jan 29, 2008 4:28 AM   
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How very gestapo like. Americans had better wake up soon, this is WAY too creepy.

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it's getting hard to breathe in here
Posted by: mwildfire on Jan 29, 2008 4:55 AM   
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put this story together with this one on CD today--http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/28/6679/
--about how CBS is parroting an obvious White House lie---that Saddam Hussein refused to let inspectors in and didn't deny that Iraq had WMD's before the US invaded in March 2003--folks, this was only 5 years ago! Even young adults remember the words of the weapons inspectors who were in Iraq for months, and may remember the 12,000 page document Iraq presented detailing how its weapons were destroyed. Yet the White House and ALL the major media will go along with an easily disproved, flat-out lie to give cover to an illegal war of conquest. CBS is the same company that fired two long-time producers because they put out a story of Bushieboy's draft-dodging which included a document that they couldn't prove absolutely to be authentic. Nobody denied the story--"W" DID slip out of the Vietnam draft with a Champagne-unit posting to the Texas National Guard, and then didn't even serve that out, presumably because he was doing too much coke to pass the drug test. And nobody proved that the document in question was false, either--Mary Mapes and Dan Rather just could not absolutely prove it was authentic. Yet they lost their jobs over it. Meanwhile, we have a CBS man stating the Hussein "refused to let inspectors in", an obvious, easily disproved falsehood, and it stands.
Put that together with the above story, in which demonstrators outside the office of a corporation breaking every law there is get jail time while its employees kill and rape at will, sometimes in the US, and never face any accountability whatsoever...what we have is a police state, a 1984-style faceless state in which the MSM function as the Minstry of Truth. It isn't yet obvious everywhere, but the steel is in place--and don't fool yourself that a Democrat in the White House will change any of it.

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Blackwater - Mitt Romney's Mercenary Army
Posted by: US Citizen on Jan 29, 2008 5:30 AM   
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Blackwater is now a walk in the park compared to what Blackwater will be under Mitt Romney. To have a mercenary army financially backing a presidential candidate should be everyone's worst nightmare. It means democracy is pretty much finished in the United States.

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Blackwater Protesters Are Patriots
Posted by: Kary on Jan 29, 2008 5:33 AM   
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Our forefathers in North Carolina bravely fought mercenaries, Hessians, sent by George III to suppress our insurrection--the American Revolution. Blackwater mercenaries perform the same function in Iraq and are clearly antithetical to our history, traditions and undermine our constitutional republic--a private army with no accountability. The Swamp Fox must be rolling in his grave to see how today Americans send mercenary armies over seas to suppress others. The Iraq war is illegal--a war of aggression contrary to US and International law. It is arguably criminal: see the Judgment at Nuremberg. Those whom are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. Would it not be just for German citizens to have trespassed and blocked the trains going to Auschwitz? Though illegal under German trespass law, is it not legal to commit a lesser crime--trespass in order to prevent a greater crime--murder and genocide? Once American courts would have let juries consider such claims--today such liberty is lost. A country that has abandoned its own fundamental principles of liberty and justice is an unlikely candidate to impose such values by force upon a foreign nation half way around the world.

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Included MLK's Statement in the Constitution
Posted by: abemko on Jan 29, 2008 5:33 AM   
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We need another Constitutional Amendment incorporating MLK's statement:

"[T]here are two types of laws: just and unjust … One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that 'an unjust law is no law at all.' … We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was 'legal' … Any law that degrades human personality is unjust … I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law."

The amendment should indicate that every citizen has the responsibility to obey just laws AND to oppose unjust laws.
This statement would also be applicable to the psychological and psychiatric professions when considering "Oppositional Behavior Disorder", (as per another article in Alternet). As a step in this direction we should start emailing this quote to the judges in this case and to every member in this administration on a regular basis to remind them of our human responsibilities.

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We Need to Keep This Up!
Posted by: madmac10 on Jan 29, 2008 5:55 AM   
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We need to march on the Blackwater headquarters in massive numbers! We need to constantly refresh the protest there. If we start making this a national movement, we will get them stopped. Let's start organizing massive marches on Blackwater NOW! Please post resources for organizing. This is the greatest threat to our democracy in our time. We must show the people's voice in this...

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Tends to make you understand.....
Posted by: cisc on Jan 29, 2008 6:42 AM   
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why Prince George and rove felt it so necessary to gut the justice system. The next time you hear a neocon bitching about activist judges and strict constitutionalist think of this. If you lie in a job interview you are subject to firing, same should hold true for Supreme Court justices. We REALLY need to look at those life time appointments, it does not keep them above politics, it allows them to annoint kings. Would it not be interesting to know why Ashcroft left AG only to be replaced by that legal whiz Gonzo? And would it not be interesting to see the EXACT dollar amount Ashcroft has picked up in no bid contracts since? Smells like hush money.

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Council for National Policy
Posted by: futurefarm on Jan 29, 2008 7:10 AM   
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Dear Jeremy. My friends at http://snowshoefilms.com/ lent me their copy of your excellent book about Blackwater. It is full of important info that I was unaware of. Especially the influence of the calvinist Council for National Policy. As a non calvinist I personally think the idea of calvinism is the root of fascism. Calvinism, in the opinion of a growing number of people, seems to oppose the natural creative essence of humanity and is therefore contrary to nature and the health of our planet. Do you have a video lecture on the topic of Blackwater's history available to download or purchase for use on our cable access?

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Part of the National Business
Posted by: PerryBrass on Jan 29, 2008 7:14 AM   
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Blackwater is part of the national business, something America protects with every grain of its fiber. It's not just a George W. Bush thing: any president would protect it, unless that president made an anti-business stance, which I don't think is going to happen. However, G.W.B. is the most pro-business, conservative-libertarian president we've had in my lifetime. So the idea of making life hard for the billiions of dollars being spent on Blackwater or Halliburton is a hard stretch for this administration and period of life.

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» distinctions Posted by: Coleman
Questions
Posted by: machvvv on Jan 29, 2008 7:22 AM   
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I live in North Carolina and never heard about this protest. I have a few questions and comments.

1. Did they know where the property line is at the front gate?
2. Did they call the media before the protest to get coverage?
3. Did they willingly breaking the law?

Smearing blood on a company sign is not free speech, it's vandalism.

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The Grand Charade, State of Delusion!
Posted by: williameon on Jan 29, 2008 7:23 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
When you have a broken political system anything is possible and most are wrong.
Privatization is one of them. Stop privatization and repatriate everything they've stolen. Nationalize all energy sources. Energy is too important to leave in the hands in corporate control. They pay us the lowest royalty rate in the world and then even short change us. The problem with the system is that it is under Corporate Control.
When corporations run government it is Fascism.
The system is outdated and corrupted with viruses. Corporate bought Politicians.
It has to be shut down. Updated and REBOOTED!
The ideals that the fore fathers based the system on are still valid. Namely:The Constitution and Bill of Rights!
The rest we must bring into the future with us by updating the code using modern ideals and 21st century standards.
Technology has changed and so should the system governing it. Government was the great leveler.
Instead now it has been turned into an enabler.
Enabling the wealthy to subjugate us.
A societies strength lies within its numbers and individuals being loyal to the whole.
When everyone benefits a little it is better for everyone. Unlimited wealth and power causes a multiple of problems. Wealth should be limited for the benefit of all. There is a conflict between: Humanitarianism and Greed.
We must recognize GREED and the evil it represents. Corporate Greed is the problem today. It has corrupted the system.
A change is coming. The beginning is now.
The re-industrialization of America is taking place as we speak. A completely decentralized system is possible. A Global Village.
Local ownership of media, manufacturing, green energy and local food organic production is a must for the survival of our very own way of life. Tough years are ahead and self sufficiency is the Key. The Nanny Corporations are falling. They have bankrupted U.S. and themselves. A kinder gentler system is near.
A prosperous new society that lives in peace and harmony with its neighbors.
Trading goods that benefit all instead of exporting weapons of mass destruction to a few.
A society based on our common, positive, creative, ideals and that respects everybody’s rights.
The rights to: clean air and pure water, health care and a livable minimum wage.
Cooperation, helpfulness, peacefulness, patience, brotherly love and true compassion
Are the building blocks that a new world order can be built upon.
Positive ideals and goals that have withstood the test of time. There is plenty of work to do. let's start Now.
The FAUX Media was dwells on BU__! SH__!
Just like it always does. It is Red Herring.
The last thing I need is a Black Army muscle head sticking his gun up my a-s.
The West needs to mind its own business and get off old fossil fuel habit. Kick the oil habit!
All the oil junkies are being led down primrose path to self destruction by Dead Eye Dick and the Shrub. What happened on 911 anyway?
The greatest army in the world looked the other way while the Black Army bombed N.Y.C. and walked away with all the Gold.
The old bait and switch! False Flag Operation?
Look who benefited by doing nothing and you will find the real culprits.
Who blamed it on someone else so they could start another WAR.
Military, Media, Industrial, Complex anyone?
All the Neo-Cons were out to lunch waiting at the exits getting ready to fly the coop, if something when wrong with their plan.
While Dick The Heartless, Old Dead Eye himself ran the show from his Dungeon. Stand Down 911. Read it and weep. The greatest hoax ever perpetuated on the American people.
Three buildings magically fell to the ground and with them:Your Freedom, Rights and Country.
The WAR is here. They started it!
And we will finish it! VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

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Let them know what you think
Posted by: kili on Jan 29, 2008 7:25 AM   
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What did the judge have to hide? So many good things happen in secrecy in this country.

Can we get this judges email address, so we can let him know what we think?

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Judges have always done the Big Corp's bidding
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Jan 29, 2008 8:38 AM   
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with few exceptions, judges have always served the interests of the rich/corporations.

Even the New Deal laws and regulations wouldn't have seen the light of day but for FDR threatening to pack the bench with progressive judges...

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Surreal
Posted by: willymack on Jan 29, 2008 9:39 AM   
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"Let me take you down 'cause I'm going-strawberry fields, where nothing is real, and nothing to get hung about". I don't know if the Beatles had the USA in mind when they released that song so long ago, but look at our current situation. The bush crime cartel is ruining our country by ignoring that "goddam piece of paper", the Constitution on a daily basis while our body politic snoozes in blissful ignorance. You might say they're in deep strawberries.

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» RE: It's not just Bush Posted by: Dboy
Where are the so-called "libertarians" and gun-toters on this issue?
Posted by: maxpayne on Jan 29, 2008 10:00 AM   
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Never mind. They're kissing Wall Street's ASS while giving a big FUCK YOU to civil liberties.

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REMINDS ME OF THE NUN
Posted by: fg on Jan 29, 2008 10:07 AM   
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whom Martha Stewart befriended in jail. Wasn't she convicted for taking part in a peace demonstration?

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Blackwater = Brown Shirts
Posted by: Reader11722 on Jan 29, 2008 10:09 AM   
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Blackwater, yet another infringement on our rights by the gov't. Add it to the ever-growing list of violations:
They violate the 1st Amendment by opening mail, caging demonstrators and banning books like America Deceived (book) from Amazon.
They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns during Katrina.
They violate the 4th Amendment by conducting warrant-less wiretaps.
They violate the 5th and 6th Amendment by suspending habeas corpus.
They violate the 8th Amendment by torturing.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting 2 illegal wars based on lies and on behalf of a foriegn gov't.
Support Dr. Ron Paul and save this great country.

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We like using Hires Killers
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Jan 29, 2008 10:14 AM   
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Sure they cost a little more than our military,operate under differing rules of engagement and don't get medals to put on a uniform,but they are ,by god, the best killing machine money can buy, Private armies back in the 1920's would have been called 'Gangsters'.if it was in the early 1900's you'd be called a 'Strikebreaker' paid to kill union organizers by industrialist while the government looked the other way.
Kids have always been forced to do time after re-enacting the mistakes of those in power. A good many Vietnam War Protesters were jailed for such acts. Many AIM people were outright killed for pointing out what was happening on their lands.
The Hired Army,the Standing Army and all the forms of police serve one purpose...protect the asses of the rich. If you point out the corruption of the wealthy in colusion with the government,you can count on getting zapped. Unless you do so as a candidate. Then you actually have 'Free Speech'. That's why I'm a 'Draft Me ' candidate.The truth is hard to swallow but it goes down easier than the bullshit they expect us to swallow about the need for Blackwater, the Iraq War and 9/11.
The government has become the enemy of the Constitution and the People. If you think I'm fooling you,go ask an Indian.
www.youtube.com/RevJeffrey7

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» RE: Govt = enemy Posted by: Dboy
Bad Law v Good Law
Posted by: JayHaden on Jan 29, 2008 10:43 AM   
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What we have here is the intersection of two previously parallel legal stovepipes. One is the body of law employed to deal with plain vanilla trespass and vandalism used to maintain the norms of domestic order. Two is the veritable dung heap of laws and anti-laws enabling the Executive to use extra-governmental resources to carry out arbitrary and capricious actions in the name of war and national security.

Start with the pop culture label, "war on X," as the wobbly platform at the bottom of the pile. Then, allow the Executive to define "national security" as though the barbarians were actually knocking down the walls and eating our children. Take away any independent review of how these and many more key definitions are applied (including what is a barbarian) and you start filling the stack with steaming poop. Poke a hole in this legal stovepipe at any point and the toxic fumes become a warning that something is wrong.

Congress is surely at fault here for helping to construct the war platform in the first place. Because the body of law built atop our "war" on terrorism is now so gaseous, it is no surprise that the Executive has seen fit to pack the court system with its defenders standing ready to plug the holes.

Civil disobedience can have a beneficial corrosive effect on such legal fantasias. In this case, the victim (Blackwater) was too dumb to foresee that the stench becomes information we all can use to assess where the real danger to our country lies.

Sure, the law requires prosecution of vandals and trespassers, if victims ask for it. The smart victim, especially one who's very existence depends on maintaining the integrity of the legal shit pile that allows it to get away with murder, might prudently back off -- at least until all other challenging laws can be quietly dismantled. Hang on Blackwater, we're almost there.

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» RE: Bad Law v Good Law Posted by: buzzsaw
So what now ??
Posted by: 7 Levels on Jan 29, 2008 11:07 AM   
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How do we organize and get this started ? I think this Blackwater issue is the number one concern right now. This IS the Police State in it's full glory. If we don't unite and fight this, then we may as well shut up about everything else.

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» RE: So what now ?? Posted by: Doubtom
» RE: So what now ?? Posted by: Dboy
Kungfublood
Posted by: Kungfublood on Jan 29, 2008 11:54 AM   
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Lick little lickspittle,
lickspittle lawman lick.
Lick little boughtman taste the blood of your children,
lick lick little lick-spittle
show us what your worth,
You've no rightful place upon the face of this earth.

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Deb
Posted by: debmcd on Jan 29, 2008 12:25 PM   
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WELCOME TO MOTHER RUSSIA!

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Drama in the Tar Heel State
Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Jan 30, 2008 12:32 PM   
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If this is a blatant example of justice in North Carolina, then we're in danger. And the judge sides with Blackwater. Yikes.
And it's surprising that an entity like Blackwater exists. How did we let this happen?

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Another reason why the US should...
Posted by: Bearzerker on Jan 30, 2008 1:15 PM   
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... be a responsible partner in the world court!

I think one of the very first things that Shrubya did when he illegally took orifice was to abstain or block US involvement from the world court.
Its newborn body and soul was rendered useless by this action...

The World court "I believe/think" was something that was initiated by the US, and then killed un-ceremonially by the current administration because of its obvious plans to the
"new" thousand year Reich [ala "Project for the New American Century"]

so many lies, misinformation and "very" bad decisions in only 8 short years!...

and who's to blame is the constant refrain?
you all are, you elected this chimp & his handler to "two terms"

So get it right this time, elect someone with a true vision...
The only "REAL" choices being offered this run are;
Klington, oBamA, Edwords & Mckin

Choose wisely... the world awaits your selective reasonings, to see if your democratic principles are worthy of emulation around the globe...
and if past is present, again... the world will turn off the US based propa-Gandhi machine and replace it with a newer more stable p-EU machine [heaven forbid]

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mick3
Posted by: mick3 on Jan 30, 2008 3:15 PM   
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Blackwater is BushCo's SS troops in waiting, once martial law is imposed on the "land of the free." Most likely they'll also comprise the White House Palace guard as well. Anyone who plans to continue living in the hell-hole that will soon be the USA can expect a friendly visit from those fellas, especially if they've ever spoken their mind or look "funny."

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