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Arizona Lawsuit a Crystal Ball Into 2008 Presidential Vote Count

By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet. Posted December 3, 2007.


Democrats and others say access to electronic voting records may prove fraud. But local officials say releasing the data will show hackers how to rig votes.
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Whether Americans will be able to verify electronic vote counts in 2008's presidential election will vary from state to state, as underscored by a little-noticed lawsuit that goes to trial this week in Pima County, Ariz., where Tucson is located.

There, in a fast-growing region, the local Democratic Party is suing the Pima County Board of Supervisors -- including its three Democratic members -- to release the complete electronic records of a 2006 election that included a ballot question on raising taxes for a $2 billion transportation bond. The measure, favored by developers, won even though it lost in prior elections and was trailing in pre-election polls.

The county's Democratic Party and local election integrity activists believe pro-growth local officials may have tampered with the electronic vote count to win. They have sworn evidence a long-time county employee who tallies the electronic vote totals took home backup tapes of the 2006 vote and accessed those vote count files before the official election results were announced. It is seeking the complete electronic voting record to determine if vote count fraud occurred.

"We are asking to get a database," said William Risner, attorney for the Election Integrity Committee of the Pima Democratic Party. "It is not our goal (in this trial) to attempt to prove that anything has happened. We want the data that would help us show that. What we are trying to do is establish our right to get the data and do an analysis. And certainly the fact they are fighting tooth and nail suggests that they have something to hide."

Pima County officials say the election records are not public documents and releasing them could actually reveal ways for partisans or the public to alter future vote counts.

"If the Pima Democratic Party or any member of the public gets access to that programming information, they could affect the outcome of an election," said Amelia Cramer, Pima County's chief deputy attorney.

The litigation brought by the Pima County Democrats raises many issues that will be relevant for the 2008 presidential election, when much of the country will be voting on electronic voting systems. In the first instance, the suit highlights that electronic voting records are often withheld from public view until long after winners have been declared and recounts and other legal challenges have ended. There is no nationwide standard.

Doug Jones, an election technology expert with the University of Iowa Department of Computer Science, said some states, counties and cities provide access to databases from their recent elections. In Miami-Dade County, Fla., he said those disclosures have kept "the county's internal audit department on it toes." "Don't expect a copy of the password file," he said.

But the Pima County case also is notable because local Democrats have sworn evidence that their county's election officials accessed the electronic vote-counting process, which shows security flaws in their electronic voting system and election procedures. Equally notable is the county's contention that electronic voting records are not public documents, despite a state open records law that grants access to most paper records.

Cramer said there were two legal bases for the privacy assertion. First, there is an Arizona law that says any electronic election record with software programming in it, such as an election database, is confidential. Many states have similar laws, passed after lobbying by voting machine and software makers to protect their "trade secrets" and "proprietary software."

Cramer also said Arizona's public records law allows government officials to decide whether any document's release serves the public interest. She said public officials have to decide whether the public interest is best served by releasing or withholding records. She said the database sought by local Democratic Party could reveal ways to tamper with future election results, which was not in the public interest.

"The Pima County Board of Supervisors and the county election director feel the privacy interest outweighs the public interest," Cramer said.

Pima County Democrats take the opposite view, contending that keeping the database secret conceals insecure voting systems and possible vote count fraud.

"We are requesting the database under the state's public records law," Risner said. "We will show these are public records. If that is the case, the other side has to show that the public interest is served by keeping it secret and that political parties don't need to know what is going on. There are other Arizona statutes where the election software is sent to the secretary of state, who keeps it for six months and then sends it back to the county. They say that allows the data to be kept secret."

Risner and some of his colleagues in the election integrity movement, including voting software expert Jim March of BlackBoxVoting.org, have said the Pima County case is significant because it shows how election insiders -- public officials, not members of the public with computer hacking skills -- can access vote counts at various stages of an election and use that information for partisan advantage.

For example, viewing totals from early electronic voting, or ballots cast before Election Day, is likely to be a larger and more accurate snapshot of voter sentiment than any pre-Election Day poll. Risner said he suspects the $2 billion transportation bond, which was opposed by the public in several past elections but favored by developers, could have been heading for defeat in 2006 -- and that would have been seen in glimpses of early results by county election officials. That knowledge could have prompted an election staffer to alter the vote-counting software to change the election outcome, he said.

"What is important politically here is the growth industry with the new subdivisions and land speculators," Risner said. "When you are looking at a simple flip reversal (of the voting results), one of the ways to do that is just simply have the machines read 'yes' votes as 'no' votes, and vice versa."

"In our state, 10 days before an election, you file with the secretary of state the ballot layout. We want to see that tape. That data has disappeared from the county. That data went to the one guy who ran elections, and it hasn't been seen since. It's gone."

The trial starts on Tuesday, Dec. 4.

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Steven Rosenfeld is a senior fellow at Alternet.org and co-author of "What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election," with Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman (The New Press, 2006).

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I don't buy it
Posted by: vox persona on Dec 3, 2007 12:40 AM   
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What we have is a faith-based voting system. Until we utilize paper ballots with a paper trail, I will not believe any elections that elect Republicans (not that Democrats can't "hack it"). If we can federalize reproductive choice and drug laws and such, then we should be able to establish standardized voting tabulation conformity. I'm certain we didn't elect these cretins....twice. Maybe we should have a national referendum on it, I'll bet if Diebold machines are used, I know what the outcome of that vote would be. How do we let this happen??!?!!?

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» RE: I don't buy it Posted by: willymack
US elections are a joke, a bad joke...
Posted by: chomsky on Dec 3, 2007 2:13 AM   
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US elections are a joke, a bad joke...
I remember international election watchdogs saying that, after all the irregularities/intimidation they witnessed, these last elections were the worst they saw, even worse than some banana republics!
So much for the champion of democracy...
They can send men on the moon, master the atom, etc... but they fail at implementing simple elections!
Of course, they are trying to hide their crimes behind incompetence.
There are plenty of books/articles/videos on how bush stole the elections.
And the only way for him to be re-elected would be to rig them again.
That's the role of diebold and co.
Their message is "We will do the counting, secretly. Just trust us on the result... We are honest and not in it for the money"
Anyway, democracy is a joke.
Only the elections are at best democratic.
Once elected, the politicians can do whatever they want for 4 years. Just look at bush.
A true democracy would have the politicians obey to the will of the people.

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Can we say
Posted by: walldodger1969 on Dec 3, 2007 4:29 AM   
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Welcome to the year 1984.

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» RE: Can we say Posted by: willymack
Even Orwell couldn't have dreamed
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Dec 3, 2007 4:41 AM   
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That after one stolen presidential election that Democrats would acquiesce to a "Magic Box" voting system that allows no paper trail, no actual recount, no public inspection of the ballots, no way to contest fraud - in short, no democracy.

I expected that after the Democrats took control of congress, this would be a top priority - shows how naive I am and how unfreakinglybelievably effin stupid the congressional Dems are.

No matter how corrupt they are, anybody with a double-digit IQ can easily see that if the vote isn't secure, neither is democracy.

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And then there are the true believers
Posted by: halg on Dec 3, 2007 6:05 AM   
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who think that cynical people like me who believe in going back to paper ballots are just a bunch of luddites. These folks have really bought the tale of faster, more accurate elections.

The software and computer industry has done a very thorough job of assuring the public that computing and digital automation are completely safe and reliable. Recall that 20 years ago, most people really WERE luddites. My, how times have changed.

I worked in I.T. for two decades and I can tell you that there is NOTHING inherently more secure about computers than paper. They are simply faster, and allow you to perform fancy sorting. And that's it. (Oh yeah. Some have "COOL GRAPHICS MAN.") The opportunities for data manipulation are orders of magnitude greater than the possibilities for paper.

We on the left need to do a better job of education. We need to teach people that the computer commercials on TV are intended to push them to buy, buy, and buy some more and they are not a miracle for all of mankind's woes. Offer them a book; teach them how to read again. Impart some analytical skills to them.

Then hope really hard.

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After 2008
Posted by: Axiom69 on Dec 3, 2007 6:28 AM   
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The next election is going to make Florida's "pregnant chad" debacle look like the poster child of fairness and transparency. It doesn't matter who wins. There will be lawsuits, recounts and allegations of fraud. Whoever the next President is will be known by the opposition as the "fraudulent President" worse than George W ever was.

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» RE: After 2008 Posted by: ad132
Retired Air Force Flight Test Engineer
Posted by: bflove on Dec 3, 2007 9:18 AM   
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The Pima County computer programmer took the backup Deibold program/data disk home with him each night, ostensibly for fire safety reasons. Weren't fireproof safes invented during the industrial revolution? How can the County claim that the disks are secret if they permitted their employee to take them home daily?

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These people are out of control!
Posted by: TarryFaster on Dec 3, 2007 9:42 AM   
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AND they are not about to let a little thing like another election remove them from control of our country/world.

Want to see who THEY are and how they have taken over? Click here.

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transparency is a must
Posted by: launcher on Dec 3, 2007 1:34 PM   
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The Pima County chief deputy attourney states that if "the public gests access to that programming information, they could affect the outcome of an election". But you have to ask: who DOES have access to that database? Partisan hacks within the local government? The manufacturer of the voting systems or private contractors who know exactly which elected officials are likely to keep the tax money flowing to them?

Besides, if the election officials are so sure that access to the database can reveal ways to tamper with it, wouldn't it be BETTER to have that database out in the open? And even the best voting paper trail (including paper ballots) is open to fraud if only a select few people know what's on that paper.

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Aha; that's what happened
Posted by: debjbaba on Dec 3, 2007 1:56 PM   
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I lived in Tucson at the time of that election and was dumbfounded that the measure passed. While purported to be a road maintenance bill for the whole cty, it was definitely a bond issue that beneftted the developers building on the outskirts of town. Now I know how that happened, thanks. I don't live there anymore so had not seen this as a news item.

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No proprietery Information
Posted by: JSquercia on Dec 3, 2007 3:15 PM   
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If you want to bid on providing electronic Slot Machines in Las Vegas you have to provide
a copy of the software BUT we are NOT allowed to have the same requirement for a voting machine . This is beyond madness .
If you want to sell an electronic voting machine to the state you should be required to
forego any proprietry interest . Don't like it than simply don't bid .
How many stories have we heard about machines that Lost hundreds of votes OR had more votes counted than there were voters .
I myself will vote by absentee ballot but am concerned about that too because I understand that these votes may not be counted if the election is in the opinion of elections officials already decided

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Give the Power to the People to Protect Their Own Vote
Posted by: jreal on Dec 3, 2007 5:46 PM   
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Voting booths should be set up so that a ticket is processed with a random number attached to his/her vote - that also shows his/her voting talley therefore immediately knowing whether his/her vote was correctly tallied - that is sent across several independent databases that are later posted online; each one on it's own site. (There will not be "one voter, one webpage.")

The voter can then - later - look up his/her random number correlating with his/her ticket number to check and see if his/her votes are correctly tallied. At the same time the voter can see the progress and outcome of the elections by the completely - ANOMYNIS - postings of all other voters.

The individual website databases will thus become checks between each other - against other types of fraud. At the same time, The Voters Themselves will also be participating as anomynous checks against fraudulent behavior.

To nullify any confusion that can later arise after the election, there can be a check for the voter to see the tally already printed - that the voter must check before recieving his/her reciept.

There can be a debate as to whether the database websites are run by government organizations, or private organizations (the many inerest groups).

An additional paper trail can also still be utilized.

The next step would be to mandate runoff ballots or such.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!

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X pat
Posted by: davy on Dec 4, 2007 12:10 AM   
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America is progressing nicely. I can already hear the weeping wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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Guess why. Actually, we don't HAVE to guess why
Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Dec 8, 2007 7:00 AM   
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"In our state, 10 days before an election, you file with the secretary of state the ballot layout. We want to see that tape. That data has disappeared from the county. That data went to the one guy who ran elections, and it hasn't been seen since. It's gone."

As one commenter said about why the CIA deleted certain records the other day about how they tortured people, there is only ONE reason why information is deleted.
It is so the EVIDENCE OF ILLEGALITY CANNOT BE FOUND.

This entire story is about VOTE FRAUD, NOT 'VOTER" FRAUD.
WE are the voters. WE are the victims of the fraud.
Let's all of us who love our country KEEP THIS AT THE TOP OF THE NEWS.

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