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Will Democrats Restore Our Liberties Stolen in the Bush Era?
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Yes and no.
Most rank-and-file Democrats strongly support constitutional rights, from grizzled ACLU liberals to Iowa Caucus voters to MoveOn's web enthusiasts, and the issue regularly competes with Iraq as a top priority for party activists. Yet Democratic leaders are much more ambivalent. The Democratic Congress buckled in its largest civil liberties clash with the White House, passing legislation to expand warrantless spying in August. And while Democratic presidential contenders are better -- they all opposed the surveillance bill and the administration's unconstitutional Military Commissions Act -- few have used the full power of their office to advocate constitutional rights. As the Bush era of radical secrecy, unitary executive power and openly unconstitutional leadership draws to a close, the Democrats are still debating how to restore rights and liberties while waging a more effective battle against terrorists.
In the presidential field, Chris Dodd has outlined the most thorough civil liberties platform. The 26-year Senate veteran is the author of major legislation to restore habeas corpus and repeal the Military Commission Act. He also led the congressional battle against retroactive immunity for telephone companies that illegally assisted the N.S.A.'s domestic surveillance. Joe Biden has staked out a leadership role on civil liberties as well. He was the first presidential candidate to back Dodd's pledge to filibuster Bush's surveillance bill -- later Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton followed suit -- and he was the first Democrat to introduce legislation reversing the controversial July executive order authorizing "enhanced interrogation techniques." Biden's legislation, "The National Security with Justice Act," would also close U.S. government "black sites," require that all interrogations comply with the Army Field Manual and provide oversight to constrain the administration's use of "rendition" (the practice of outsourcing torture to other countries). Yet the bill does not have a single Senate co-sponsor -- an indication of how reticent Democratic leaders are in this area.
The remaining Democratic frontrunners do not prioritize civil liberties much on the campaign trail, though they do advocate constitutional rights in contrast to the Bush administration. Obama, Clinton and John Edwards each say that if elected, for example, they will restore habeas corpus, close Guantanamo and halt illegal domestic spying. Obama and Clinton have both cosponsored stand-alone legislation to restore habeas corpus. And unlike Clinton, Obama has signed on to Dodd's more comprehensive bill, the "Restoring the Constitution Act," which has 13 co-sponsors. Edwards, a former senator, has not specifically spoken out on the bill, though he has endorsed several of its proponents in several addresses challenging the entire doctrine of a "Global War on Terror." Clinton also categorically ruled out the use of torture during a presidential debate in September, withdrawing her previous position that torture could be justified in a ticking time-bomb scenario.
Yet across the country, Democratic voters support a constitutional rights agenda much more forcefully than their elected leaders. According to survey that Belden Russonello & Stewart conducted this September, 81 percent of Democrats oppose torture, 70 percent favor restoring of habeas corpus, and 69 percent want to close Guantanamo. Iowa's pivotal (and knowledgeable) Democratic electorate supports these priorities at even higher rates than the national averages, including 94 percent opposition to torture and 88 percent support for habeas corpus. Democrats would not alienate swing voters on this score, either. The national survey found Independents had similar views, including higher support for habeas corpus (80 percent) and opposition to torture (87 percent) than Democrats across the country.
Civil liberties advocates say these positions, among Democrats and independents alike, are animated both by frustration with Bush's failures and a desire for new leadership that wages a battle against terrorists the "American way." That is the philosophy behind a new liberal group, the American Freedom Campaign, calling on all the presidential aspirants to affirm American values in the Constitution by strongly backing a freedom "pledge." That includes a policy commitment to restore habeas corpus, secure rights of the accused, ban all torture and defend personal liberties. With backing from MoveOn.org, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and the Center for Constitutional Rights, among others, the group has already elicited letters of support from each of the leading Democratic presidential candidates.
Yet even that important list of priorities is not sufficient to restore the rule of law in the post-Bush era. Though members of Congress rarely admit it, and the public may not appreciate it, the most significant rejections of President Bush's counterterror policies have actually come from the courts -- not from Congress or elections. The conservative Supreme Court has twice rejected Bush's detention policies at Guantanamo in the landmark Rasul and Hamdan decisions. Lower federal courts have also rebuffed executive programs to detain a U.S. citizen without trial and spy on Americans without the required warrants. Yet Bush has repeatedly responded by maligning court oversight as a barrier to national security and attempting to circumvent the rulings. Congress has reinforced that approach, even after the Democrats took control this year, by passing legislation to validate surveillance rebuffed by the courts; granting immunity to potential war criminals and contractors in Iraq; and stripping habeas corpus in the Military Commissions Act, which responded to the Hamdan decision in 2006. (The State Department also secretly granted immunity to Blackwater bodyguards, as the Associated Press reported this week.)
These congressional acts are counterintuitive, under traditional models of American government, because Congress is complicit in the reduction of its own power. The founders envisioned each branch of government asserting itself by checking the others -- "ambition must be made to counteract ambition," as James Madison declared in the Federalist Papers. Under both Republican and Democratic control, however, Congress has let its power ebb -- and assisted executive encroachments on the judicial branch. Thus civil libertarians must move on two fronts, advocating policy priorities (like habeas corpus) and pressing politicians to address vital -- but vague -- notions of restoring the proper constitutional separation of powers.
The next president should work with Congress to strengthen the branch of government that makes the law work: the courts. Civil libertarians can press candidates to outline their specific policies to strengthen judicial oversight -- including potential misconduct in the next White House. The public is also entitled to know how a candidate would select judges with fidelity to the law -- not deference to the executive branch. Another sleeper judicial issue for the campaign agenda is the administration's expansion of the "state secrets privilege," often referred to as a "nuclear" doctrine in government circles. The Bush administration has shut down scores of important cases by radically expanding the state secrets privilege, a Cold War doctrine allowing the executive to completely preempt a case by asserting that state secrets are jeopardized. Thus cases die without judges ever reviewing the underlying claims, or descriptions of the alleged secrets. (Here conservatives have swapped "judicial activism" for judicial torpor.) The American Bar Association has criticized the administration's abuse of this doctrine, and the bipartisan Constitution Project is advocating major reforms to the privilege. The issue sounds obscure now, but if evangelical activists could popularize their fight over "strict constructionist judges," civil libertarians can show peace and human rights activists how this doctrine has prevented accountability for numerous allegations of torture, rendition, detention and spying -- fortifying a model of executive power that is remarkably unaccountable to the public.
There is a common theme in all of these measures. They affirm American values and enjoy wide support among Democratic and independent voters, but remain largely neglected by Democratic leaders.
It is an old fissure within the party. The 2000 Democratic Platform, for example, was notable for its prescient emphasis on how terrorism challenges an open society. The platform proposed to "disrupt terrorist networks" before they attack while protecting the "civil liberties of all Americans" and securing "the rights of the accused, even under the unusual circumstances of the investigation of threats to our national security." The document even singled out Osama Bin Laden as a key target for the United States, while the Republicans' 2000 platform does not mention him.
Yet even if the Democrats' 2000 platform reflected popular opinion within the party, it obviously did not drive party leaders after 9/11. Today, the question is whether the failures of the Bush administration have finally shown Democratic leaders what their constituents -- and many other Americans -- already believed. The United States can wage a battle against its enemies without sacrificing freedom, justice and democracy at home.
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Posted by: mmckinl on Nov 10, 2007 12:30 AM
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Any new President now has precedent to game the system. Whether it be signing statements, torture, deliberate subterfuge as in the Justice Department or secrecy, a new President has plenty of legal cover.
Unless and until Bush and his administration are tried and convicted for specific crimes under the Constitution there will be no precedent for the redress of these crimes.
Does anyone actually think Bush, Cheney or Gonzales will be tried ?
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Posted by: vox persona on Nov 10, 2007 12:34 AM
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» RE: Even Abe Lincoln suspended Habeus Corpus
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» RE: One can only hope
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» Excuse me, where do you people live? The dems have sold us out.
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Posted by: Slmncty on Nov 10, 2007 2:58 AM
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» RE: Senator Dodd
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» Well, this late in the game he had to do something and its a winning political strategy.
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Posted by: socialpsych on Nov 10, 2007 3:51 AM
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» RE: One More Time: Dems = Repugs
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» Good points
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» RE: One More Time: Dems = Repugs
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» RE: It is called the War Party ... the Mega Media , the Multi Nationals , both Parties...
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» AMEN....... you hit the truth nail right on the head.
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Posted by: Democritus on Nov 10, 2007 3:59 AM
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In addition, Kucinich courageously put forward a personal resolution, HR333 to issue Articles of Impeachment for Dick Cheney. He is the only Democrat who knows how to stop the Bush-Cheney machine from continuing to break the law in the way Melber deplores. Yet key Democrats backed off from Kucinich's resolution as if they were scalded, with Pelosi and Reid sounding more like moderate Republicans with each passing day.
If Melber is worried that the "front-running" Democrats won't have the backbone that Chris Dodd is showing, why doesn't he mention the candidate with more guts than any of them--and one who clearly shares the views of most progressive Democrats? Could it be that The Nation is out of synch with grass-roots voters?
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» RE: Why not Kucinich?
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» Alternet does not want Kucinich to get good press
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» The general election not as important as primaries
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» RE: Alternet does not want Kucinich to get good press
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» Lieberman would make Bush look sweet by comparison!
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» RE: Alternet does not want Kucinich to get good press
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» He is correct Garden Kelly, so instead switch parties and vote Ron Paul in the primary instead.
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» RE: Alternet does not want Kucinich to get good press
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» RE: Why not Kucinich?
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» RE: Withdraw? It is simple.
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» If you pack it in then you pack it back OUT...
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» RE: die for an AK-47?
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» Were you hoping they'd kill each other off?
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» Anna, you can't give specifics in sound bites and the press won't cover elaborate plans.
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» RE: Why not Kucinich?
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» RE: Why not Kucinich? Exactly, WHY NOT???
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» Freedom is an unwanted distraction?
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» Your right, except about Biden, Dodd and Hillary... they are very late comers to the issues...
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» RE: Why not Kucinich?
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» Why not Ron Paul?
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» Because laissez-faire capitalism is the problem.
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» Not really, pig, its like everything under this administration and others........
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» I agree wholeheartedly with you about that, but that is what....
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» Melber did not mention Kucinich for a reason... the question is "What is that reason"?
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Posted by: socialpsych on Nov 10, 2007 4:28 AM
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» Those 240,000 killed on the highways are called "auto accidents".
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» and millions of innocent Iraqis have been killed or forced
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» RE: "the battle against terrorists the "American way.""
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» Yes, the comparison is poor
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» RE: "the battle against terrorists the "American way."" and HUH?
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Posted by: alicelillie on Nov 10, 2007 7:37 AM
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Paul is the only one who is *overtly* against the war and wants to bring home the troops right now.
Paul *overtly* favors civil liberties, including marijuana legalization and an end to the spying.
Check him out and watch him debate on Dec. 28 on CNN, when (if I am not mistaken) the next GOP debate will take place.
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» Glennk1949, you obviously are watching MSM who are slandering him horribly......
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» Serious about Civil Liberties and an End to War - Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich are the best!
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» Trust? How is Hillary trustworthy?
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Posted by: thehousedog on Nov 10, 2007 8:30 AM
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No.
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» Damnit, you stole my post!
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Nov 10, 2007 9:17 AM
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Posted by: oregoncharles on Nov 10, 2007 10:22 AM
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Posted by: bluebirdella on Nov 10, 2007 11:38 AM
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» RE: Why do people think they care?
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» RE: Why do people think they care?
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» I agree, we are on our own. We have been for quite a while now... 6 years to be exact.
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Posted by: James W. Harris on Nov 10, 2007 1:16 PM
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All citizens who care about freedom need to turn up the heat on Congress to restore our civil liberties that the Bush Administration has gutted.
The House counterpart to Biden's bill is Congressman Ron Paul's new "American Freedom Agenda Act of 2007," introduced a few weeks ago. That bill would:
* Restore the right to habeas corpus by repealing the Military Commissions Act;
* Halt warrantless eavesdropping and spying on American citizens by requiring federal intelligence gathering to be conducted in accordance with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA);
* Give Congress the ability to challenge the President's monarchical use of "signing statements" to avoid executing the nation's laws;
* Bar the use of evidence obtained through torture;
* Prohibit torture and arbitrary kidnapping and secret imprisonment;
* Protect the First Amendment rights of journalists who expose wrongdoing by
the Federal government "unless the publication would cause direct, immediate, and irreparable harm" to national security;
* Prohibit the use of secret evidence to label groups or individuals as terrorists for the purpose of criminal or civil sanctions.
Naomi Wolf says: "There is no way to overstate how crucial this piece of legislation is. ... A groundswell of millions of Americans of all parties rising up to insist on passage of the AFA legislation means that we are awake -- we get it -- and that we assert that an alert citizenry, not a whipped-dog Congress or a violently abusive executive, decides what happens in this nation still. ... I will move heaven and earth to support the passage of this lifesaving agenda."
A group of prominent conservatives -- including Bob Barr, Richard Viguerie (yes, THAT Viguerie), Reagan administration lawyer Bruce Fein, and American Conservative Union chairman David Keene -- are supporting it.
The liberal American Freedom Campaign has more on this and other opportunities:
http://afagenda.nonprofitsoapbox.com
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» Thanks so much for bringing this up. He has introduced legislation before that sat on the back...
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Posted by: rfhurley on Nov 10, 2007 2:54 PM
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Posted by: Missing Piece on Nov 10, 2007 5:17 PM
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Just think of millions of people demanding food and housing, when energy is out of reach for the masses, its less than five years away. This country will become socialist state over night, and thats what all those super rich politicians we vote for are scared of. This new reality we find ourselves in, is a result of super rich people scared to death, that the masses are going to demand the wealth be spread out more.
Why don't I here anyone at alternet ever talk about the fact that oil is almost gone and almost out of reach for many people. Don't you see, no more sports, porn, gossip, etc. to dumb down Americans and distract them? what can the wealthy do to control us then? Simple, take away our rights, get us to fear each other and label us enemy combatant when we stand up.
Kucinich is a good man that well help us but he will be killed or made to look bad. Ron Pual is interesting but a little scary.
good luck, forget about the daily b.s. and get ready to live without oil. The wealthy have a grip on us so tight that we will never break it without a revolution.
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» yes we still have 1/2 the oil left but
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» Well, that is a real possibility.
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Posted by: AlexLawyer on Nov 10, 2007 5:19 PM
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Despite widespread violations of constitutional rights, very few cases have been successfully prosecuted. Our torture (including dozens of deaths under torture by US officials), forced disappearances, kidnappings, false imprisonments, denials of due process, repudiation of the Hague and Geneva Conventions and other outrages have alienated our allies and multiplied our enemies.
Now is not the time for rhetoric, but for concerted action, and the Senate's craven, cynical confirmation of Mukasey calls into question its true motivations.
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» Agreed, and once again, no fillibuster.
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Posted by: common intelligence on Nov 10, 2007 8:37 PM
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And how and who will slam a door on the exective branch from claiming executive privleges and stop the president from letting the cohorts in crime off scot free?
Do you think the next president and congress will address and prioritize making these repairs to all the damage Bush has done, to safe gard the nation from such fascist activities, so they are stopped and never be allowed to happen again?
It seems to me, just by hearing these questions here, that the distractive tactics will continue and the media and politicians will manuver all new business away from reflecting on such concerns in order to pretend it's all over and should be forgot. Just like opening up a reinvestigation into the piles of unanswered questions concerning the truth about 911.
The most worrisome terroist cell is in the United States Government. Non dare conspire to reach into the belly of the beast , less ye be swallowed, digested and excreated.
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» I honestly believe if we get Kucinich or Paul in as President, there will be a purging of .....
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Posted by: dayahka on Nov 10, 2007 10:01 PM
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» RE: Only Ron Paul would Restore the Constitution
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» ron paul scares me
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» Ron Paul doesn't scare me...
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» O.K. Sure Individual responsiblity and freedom so what about his prolife stance?
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» He is prolife "personally" because after all, he is a baby doctor... What did you expect.
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» RE: ron paul scares me
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» Only Ron Paul would RePLACE the Constitution with a swastika
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» Whooops, forgot to give you the link to greenwalds write up........
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Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Nov 11, 2007 6:59 AM
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Posted by: Joe on Nov 11, 2007 8:05 AM
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i get tired this complaining about bush when your only answer is to keep supporting the status quo. the left likes to call the right stupid but it's gets no dumber than those who think obamo, clinkton, edwards and like are the answer. you want change you're going to need a radical the like of ron paul to get the momentum heading in another direction.
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» Hahaahaa, sorry, Joe, that tactic won't work.... Slandering Ron Paul makes my point....
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Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Nov 11, 2007 10:40 AM
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Don't Vote , Revolt..!
Strike force Impeachment of these criminal fascist Unitary swine...!
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Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Nov 11, 2007 11:27 PM
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Our chances hinge entirely on campaign finance laws. You have already forgotten your recent history. Bill Clinton's first action was as a democratic president to try to get a democratic congress to pass a campaign finance law. It didn't happen. I think that Bill knew then that the rest of his presidency was shot. Big money bought the rest of it. If democrats can't take the big money out of politics in the United States all of you that are saying that our lost freedoms are not coming back are dead right. Big money wishes to manipulate the government and you and me. Its that simple.
Think about what Bill did when he ran for his second term. He sent a comprehensive campaign finance reform bill to congress. It was a good one. He plugged loopholes. They tore it up. So when Bill ran for his second term he got out his copy of the bill and jumped through every damned loophole that they had refused to plug. They screamed and cried and moaned and couldn't do a damned thing because they had virtually legalized his actions. The repubs even tried to run against him for it. But, in truth the repubs had led the way away from campaign finance reform.
Nothing will change as long as the same guys are buying our government. We may not see an improvement in our civil rights. I've had a nosey policeman challenge my civil rights in the last 2 days. All I was doing was sitting legally parked and waiting for a friend. He threw his lights on me and was running my plates to see if he could get anything. We had some vandalism and some of the very wealthy were victims. This generation of cops have no concept of privacy. Perhaps, our local cop thought that at age 68 I had devolved into my second childhood and had taken up firecrackers and vandalism as a hobby. Our cops have gotten to be a very bad class of people. We now have a law on the books that says that a cop can shoot you if he feels threatened. That is actually not a very big change. They all carry a stolen "throwdown" gun. After they shoot you they place it in your hand and claim self defense. We have now reached the point where any cop can shoot anybody anytime that they want and get by with it.
If I'm wrong about any of this I'll apologize.
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Posted by: stryder on Nov 12, 2007 2:01 AM
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No mention, of course, that U.S. “enemies” of endlessly phony “war on terror” are largely a fiction inflicted from 9/11 on by that bloody old Crypto-Fascist regime behind the curtain. A trap that runs DC and its media circus like the horror show for sociopaths it is.
“Obama, Clinton and John Edwards each say that if elected, for example, they will restore habeas corpus, close Guantanamo and halt illegal domestic spying.”
Gee, how fabulous that “leftwing” so-called leaders “say” they will “restore” basic human rights guaranteed by the Constitution.
Anyone who believes word one of this self-serve cushy garbage deserves what’s coming.
Peace…
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Posted by: chatareena on Nov 12, 2007 9:00 AM
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Catarina- Riverdale , MD
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Posted by: DaBear on Nov 13, 2007 10:36 AM
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Dim or Repug, Green savant or Libertarian moron: if you can't live one day in the governmental profession without making new wars, bombs, and destruction or maintaining old ones, if you can't keep yourself for one day from subsidizing the Baron-state and putting the legal-person above the natural-person, if you cannot live for one day on the job without putting money above the planet and everyone's physical and mental health, you've outlived your usefulness. Get the fuck outta the way and shut yer mouth. You don't get to fucking play gubamint anymore. Talk back to we the damned working people of this planet and we'll smack ya. We're your parents and it's time for you to fucking grow up.
---opening lines to the revised U.S. Constitution.
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Posted by: Ellie1 on Nov 14, 2007 1:35 PM
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We don't need another right wing conservative Texan in the White House.
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Posted by: grkjr on Nov 14, 2007 7:28 PM
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Posted by: socrates2 on Nov 15, 2007 9:50 AM
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It is the poor shlep on the street, yeah, you and me who need a Constitution. We're the ones who have neither funds nor armies to back and/or defend our point of view and "rights."
People with power don't need rights. They have the power to enforce their will any damned time they please. That's why our elected reps do next to nothing. They are allied to power. They don't care about rights.
Once more: that is why People with power have no need for "rights."
Ergo, expect little from your elected official unless he sees numbers either at his mailbox, his answering machine or outside his office.
Otherwise, he will continue to please those who fund his re-elections campaigns...
Remedy: Reform our election finance laws.
NOW...
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Posted by: KeithRichardRadfordJr on Nov 29, 2007 12:52 PM
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Well today I was told by my attorney that my case was demurer which means the state says so what. So what if you are diabetic and need to enroll in Adult Swim at your YMCA because of injuries for exercise. So what if you are disabled and we made you move. So what if you live a good honest life. So what if when we made you move you were going to school to learn a trade and we disrupted your life during your finals and you could not finish your training. So what if you and your wife who by the way has never done anything to anyone is waking in the middle of the night crying because you stand to be homeless for fear that no one will rent to you. We lived in an apartment in Burbank CA when someone decided to place flyer's at our home about my 23 year old sex offense and get us kicked out of our home. Reminds me of the Quote by Pastor Martin Niemöller: First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. We have one week to come up with a bunch of money to fight for rights Americans are losing because they are better than us. Sorry America we have no money. We are poor week to week surviving on what we have which is less each day. When these laws get done with us, they will not be satisfied.
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Posted by: mmckinl on Nov 10, 2007 12:30 AM
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Any new President now has precedent to game the system. Whether it be signing statements, torture, deliberate subterfuge as in the Justice Department or secrecy, a new President has plenty of legal cover.
Unless and until Bush and his administration are tried and convicted for specific crimes under the Constitution there will be no precedent for the redress of these crimes.
Does anyone actually think Bush, Cheney or Gonzales will be tried ?
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Posted by: Slmncty on Nov 10, 2007 2:58 AM
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Posted by: Democritus on Nov 10, 2007 3:59 AM
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In addition, Kucinich courageously put forward a personal resolution, HR333 to issue Articles of Impeachment for Dick Cheney. He is the only Democrat who knows how to stop the Bush-Cheney machine from continuing to break the law in the way Melber deplores. Yet key Democrats backed off from Kucinich's resolution as if they were scalded, with Pelosi and Reid sounding more like moderate Republicans with each passing day.
If Melber is worried that the "front-running" Democrats won't have the backbone that Chris Dodd is showing, why doesn't he mention the candidate with more guts than any of them--and one who clearly shares the views of most progressive Democrats? Could it be that The Nation is out of synch with grass-roots voters?
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» He is correct Garden Kelly, so instead switch parties and vote Ron Paul in the primary instead.
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» Why not Ron Paul?
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» Because laissez-faire capitalism is the problem.
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» Not really, pig, its like everything under this administration and others........
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» Melber did not mention Kucinich for a reason... the question is "What is that reason"?
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» Those 240,000 killed on the highways are called "auto accidents".
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Posted by: alicelillie on Nov 10, 2007 7:37 AM
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Paul is the only one who is *overtly* against the war and wants to bring home the troops right now.
Paul *overtly* favors civil liberties, including marijuana legalization and an end to the spying.
Check him out and watch him debate on Dec. 28 on CNN, when (if I am not mistaken) the next GOP debate will take place.
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Posted by: thehousedog on Nov 10, 2007 8:30 AM
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No.
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Posted by: James W. Harris on Nov 10, 2007 1:16 PM
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All citizens who care about freedom need to turn up the heat on Congress to restore our civil liberties that the Bush Administration has gutted.
The House counterpart to Biden's bill is Congressman Ron Paul's new "American Freedom Agenda Act of 2007," introduced a few weeks ago. That bill would:
* Restore the right to habeas corpus by repealing the Military Commissions Act;
* Halt warrantless eavesdropping and spying on American citizens by requiring federal intelligence gathering to be conducted in accordance with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA);
* Give Congress the ability to challenge the President's monarchical use of "signing statements" to avoid executing the nation's laws;
* Bar the use of evidence obtained through torture;
* Prohibit torture and arbitrary kidnapping and secret imprisonment;
* Protect the First Amendment rights of journalists who expose wrongdoing by
the Federal government "unless the publication would cause direct, immediate, and irreparable harm" to national security;
* Prohibit the use of secret evidence to label groups or individuals as terrorists for the purpose of criminal or civil sanctions.
Naomi Wolf says: "There is no way to overstate how crucial this piece of legislation is. ... A groundswell of millions of Americans of all parties rising up to insist on passage of the AFA legislation means that we are awake -- we get it -- and that we assert that an alert citizenry, not a whipped-dog Congress or a violently abusive executive, decides what happens in this nation still. ... I will move heaven and earth to support the passage of this lifesaving agenda."
A group of prominent conservatives -- including Bob Barr, Richard Viguerie (yes, THAT Viguerie), Reagan administration lawyer Bruce Fein, and American Conservative Union chairman David Keene -- are supporting it.
The liberal American Freedom Campaign has more on this and other opportunities:
http://afagenda.nonprofitsoapbox.com
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Posted by: rfhurley on Nov 10, 2007 2:54 PM
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Posted by: Missing Piece on Nov 10, 2007 5:17 PM
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Just think of millions of people demanding food and housing, when energy is out of reach for the masses, its less than five years away. This country will become socialist state over night, and thats what all those super rich politicians we vote for are scared of. This new reality we find ourselves in, is a result of super rich people scared to death, that the masses are going to demand the wealth be spread out more.
Why don't I here anyone at alternet ever talk about the fact that oil is almost gone and almost out of reach for many people. Don't you see, no more sports, porn, gossip, etc. to dumb down Americans and distract them? what can the wealthy do to control us then? Simple, take away our rights, get us to fear each other and label us enemy combatant when we stand up.
Kucinich is a good man that well help us but he will be killed or made to look bad. Ron Pual is interesting but a little scary.
good luck, forget about the daily b.s. and get ready to live without oil. The wealthy have a grip on us so tight that we will never break it without a revolution.
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» yes we still have 1/2 the oil left but
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» Well, that is a real possibility.
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Posted by: AlexLawyer on Nov 10, 2007 5:19 PM
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Despite widespread violations of constitutional rights, very few cases have been successfully prosecuted. Our torture (including dozens of deaths under torture by US officials), forced disappearances, kidnappings, false imprisonments, denials of due process, repudiation of the Hague and Geneva Conventions and other outrages have alienated our allies and multiplied our enemies.
Now is not the time for rhetoric, but for concerted action, and the Senate's craven, cynical confirmation of Mukasey calls into question its true motivations.
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» Agreed, and once again, no fillibuster.
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Posted by: common intelligence on Nov 10, 2007 8:37 PM
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And how and who will slam a door on the exective branch from claiming executive privleges and stop the president from letting the cohorts in crime off scot free?
Do you think the next president and congress will address and prioritize making these repairs to all the damage Bush has done, to safe gard the nation from such fascist activities, so they are stopped and never be allowed to happen again?
It seems to me, just by hearing these questions here, that the distractive tactics will continue and the media and politicians will manuver all new business away from reflecting on such concerns in order to pretend it's all over and should be forgot. Just like opening up a reinvestigation into the piles of unanswered questions concerning the truth about 911.
The most worrisome terroist cell is in the United States Government. Non dare conspire to reach into the belly of the beast , less ye be swallowed, digested and excreated.
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» O.K. Sure Individual responsiblity and freedom so what about his prolife stance?
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» He is prolife "personally" because after all, he is a baby doctor... What did you expect.
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Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Nov 11, 2007 6:59 AM
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Posted by: Joe on Nov 11, 2007 8:05 AM
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i get tired this complaining about bush when your only answer is to keep supporting the status quo. the left likes to call the right stupid but it's gets no dumber than those who think obamo, clinkton, edwards and like are the answer. you want change you're going to need a radical the like of ron paul to get the momentum heading in another direction.
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Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Nov 11, 2007 10:40 AM
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Don't Vote , Revolt..!
Strike force Impeachment of these criminal fascist Unitary swine...!
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Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Nov 11, 2007 11:27 PM
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Our chances hinge entirely on campaign finance laws. You have already forgotten your recent history. Bill Clinton's first action was as a democratic president to try to get a democratic congress to pass a campaign finance law. It didn't happen. I think that Bill knew then that the rest of his presidency was shot. Big money bought the rest of it. If democrats can't take the big money out of politics in the United States all of you that are saying that our lost freedoms are not coming back are dead right. Big money wishes to manipulate the government and you and me. Its that simple.
Think about what Bill did when he ran for his second term. He sent a comprehensive campaign finance reform bill to congress. It was a good one. He plugged loopholes. They tore it up. So when Bill ran for his second term he got out his copy of the bill and jumped through every damned loophole that they had refused to plug. They screamed and cried and moaned and couldn't do a damned thing because they had virtually legalized his actions. The repubs even tried to run against him for it. But, in truth the repubs had led the way away from campaign finance reform.
Nothing will change as long as the same guys are buying our government. We may not see an improvement in our civil rights. I've had a nosey policeman challenge my civil rights in the last 2 days. All I was doing was sitting legally parked and waiting for a friend. He threw his lights on me and was running my plates to see if he could get anything. We had some vandalism and some of the very wealthy were victims. This generation of cops have no concept of privacy. Perhaps, our local cop thought that at age 68 I had devolved into my second childhood and had taken up firecrackers and vandalism as a hobby. Our cops have gotten to be a very bad class of people. We now have a law on the books that says that a cop can shoot you if he feels threatened. That is actually not a very big change. They all carry a stolen "throwdown" gun. After they shoot you they place it in your hand and claim self defense. We have now reached the point where any cop can shoot anybody anytime that they want and get by with it.
If I'm wrong about any of this I'll apologize.
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Posted by: stryder on Nov 12, 2007 2:01 AM
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No mention, of course, that U.S. “enemies” of endlessly phony “war on terror” are largely a fiction inflicted from 9/11 on by that bloody old Crypto-Fascist regime behind the curtain. A trap that runs DC and its media circus like the horror show for sociopaths it is.
“Obama, Clinton and John Edwards each say that if elected, for example, they will restore habeas corpus, close Guantanamo and halt illegal domestic spying.”
Gee, how fabulous that “leftwing” so-called leaders “say” they will “restore” basic human rights guaranteed by the Constitution.
Anyone who believes word one of this self-serve cushy garbage deserves what’s coming.
Peace…
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Posted by: chatareena on Nov 12, 2007 9:00 AM
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Catarina- Riverdale , MD
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Posted by: DaBear on Nov 13, 2007 10:36 AM
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Dim or Repug, Green savant or Libertarian moron: if you can't live one day in the governmental profession without making new wars, bombs, and destruction or maintaining old ones, if you can't keep yourself for one day from subsidizing the Baron-state and putting the legal-person above the natural-person, if you cannot live for one day on the job without putting money above the planet and everyone's physical and mental health, you've outlived your usefulness. Get the fuck outta the way and shut yer mouth. You don't get to fucking play gubamint anymore. Talk back to we the damned working people of this planet and we'll smack ya. We're your parents and it's time for you to fucking grow up.
---opening lines to the revised U.S. Constitution.
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Posted by: Ellie1 on Nov 14, 2007 1:35 PM
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We don't need another right wing conservative Texan in the White House.
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Posted by: grkjr on Nov 14, 2007 7:28 PM
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Posted by: socrates2 on Nov 15, 2007 9:50 AM
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It is the poor shlep on the street, yeah, you and me who need a Constitution. We're the ones who have neither funds nor armies to back and/or defend our point of view and "rights."
People with power don't need rights. They have the power to enforce their will any damned time they please. That's why our elected reps do next to nothing. They are allied to power. They don't care about rights.
Once more: that is why People with power have no need for "rights."
Ergo, expect little from your elected official unless he sees numbers either at his mailbox, his answering machine or outside his office.
Otherwise, he will continue to please those who fund his re-elections campaigns...
Remedy: Reform our election finance laws.
NOW...
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Posted by: KeithRichardRadfordJr on Nov 29, 2007 12:52 PM
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Well today I was told by my attorney that my case was demurer which means the state says so what. So what if you are diabetic and need to enroll in Adult Swim at your YMCA because of injuries for exercise. So what if you are disabled and we made you move. So what if you live a good honest life. So what if when we made you move you were going to school to learn a trade and we disrupted your life during your finals and you could not finish your training. So what if you and your wife who by the way has never done anything to anyone is waking in the middle of the night crying because you stand to be homeless for fear that no one will rent to you. We lived in an apartment in Burbank CA when someone decided to place flyer's at our home about my 23 year old sex offense and get us kicked out of our home. Reminds me of the Quote by Pastor Martin Niemöller: First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. We have one week to come up with a bunch of money to fight for rights Americans are losing because they are better than us. Sorry America we have no money. We are poor week to week surviving on what we have which is less each day. When these laws get done with us, they will not be satisfied.
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