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Rights and Liberties

If Bush Attacks Iran, He Won't Get My Taxes

By Chris Hedges, The Nation. Posted November 27, 2007.


I will not pay my income tax if Bush and Cheney go to war with Iran.
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I will not pay my income tax if we go to war with Iran. I realize this is a desperate and perhaps futile gesture. But an attack on Iran -- which appears increasingly likely before the coming presidential election -- will unleash a regional conflict of catastrophic proportions. This war, and especially Iranian retaliatory strikes on American targets, will be used to silence domestic dissent and abolish what is left of our civil liberties. It will solidify the slow-motion coup d'état that has been under way since the 9/11 attacks. It could mean the death of the Republic.

Let us hope sanity prevails. But sanity is a rare commodity in a White House that has twisted Trotsky's concept of permanent revolution into a policy of permanent war with nefarious aims -- to intimidate and destroy all those classified as foreign opponents, to create permanent instability and fear and to strip citizens of their constitutional rights.

A war with Iran is doomed. It will be no more successful than the Israeli airstrikes on Lebanon in 2006, which failed to break Hezbollah and united most Lebanese behind that militant group. The Israeli bombing did not pacify 4 million Lebanese. What will happen when we begin to pound a country of 65 million people whose land mass is three times the size of France?

Once you begin an air campaign it is only a matter of time before you have to put troops on the ground or accept defeat, as the Israelis had to do in Lebanon. And if we begin dropping bunker busters and cruise missiles on Iran, this is the choice that must be faced: either send US forces into Iran to fight a protracted and futile guerrilla war, or walk away in humiliation.

But more ominous, an attack on Iran will ignite the Middle East. The loss of Iranian oil, coupled with possible Silkworm missile attacks by Iran against oil tankers in the Persian Gulf, could send the price of oil soaring to somewhere around $200 a barrel. The effect on the domestic and world economy will be devastating, very possibly triggering a global depression. The Middle East has two-thirds of the world's proven petroleum reserves and nearly half its natural gas. A disruption in the supply will be felt immediately.

This attack will be interpreted by many Shiites in the Middle East as a religious war. The two million Shiites in Saudi Arabia (heavily concentrated in the oil-rich Eastern Province), the Shiite majority in Iraq and the Shiite communities in Bahrain, Pakistan and Turkey could turn in rage on us and our dwindling allies. We could see a combination of increased terrorist attacks, including on American soil, and widespread sabotage of oil production in the Persian Gulf. Iraq, as bad as it looks now, will become a death pit for US troops.

The Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, which has so far not joined the insurgency, has strong ties to Iran. It could begin full-scale guerrilla resistance, possibly uniting for the first time with Sunnis against the occupation. Iran, in retaliation, will fire its missiles, some with a range of 1,100 miles, at US installations, including Baghdad's Green Zone. Expect substantial casualties, especially with Iranian agents and their Iraqi allies calling in precise coordinates. Iranian missiles could be launched at Israel. The Strait of Hormuz, which is the corridor for 20 percent of the world's oil supply, will become treacherous, perhaps unnavigable. Chinese-supplied antiship missiles, mines and coastal artillery, along with speedboats packed with explosives and suicide bombers, will target US shipping, along with Saudi oil production and oil export centers.

Hezbollah forces in southern Lebanon, closely allied with Iran, may in solidarity fire rockets into northern Israel. Israel, already struck by missiles from Tehran, could then carry out retaliatory raids against both Lebanon and Iran. Pakistan, with its huge Shiite minority, will become even more unstable. Unrest could result in the overthrow of the already weakened Pervez Musharraf and usher Islamic radicals into power. Pakistan, rather than Iran, would then become the first radical Islamic state to possess a nuclear weapon. The neat little war with Iran, which many Democrats do not oppose, has the potential to ignite an inferno.


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Chris Hedges, a Pulitzer prize-winning reporter, was the Middle East bureau chief for The New York Times. He spent seven years in the Middle East and reported frequently from Iran. His latest book is American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America.

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I don't really get your point . . .
Posted by: jackblack on Nov 27, 2007 12:10 AM   
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If the USA attacks Iran you're not gona pay your taxes? Why after the attack? Why not before the attack? So you're not gonna pay your taxes because you think that's gonna do or mean, what? I don't get your point.

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» What would you do, Cathy? Posted by: mjabele
God Bless You Chris
Posted by: vox persona on Nov 27, 2007 12:28 AM   
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I support your civil disobedience, Thoreau would be proud to call you ally. But how dare you introduce facts and informed conjecture into the bizarro parallel world of our boy emperor's concoction? I swear, once he was appointed our dear leader, he must have thought he was installed by God and acted accordingly. And when he realized that after 9/11 he could get away with any whim that his black little heart desired, even though the attack was disregarded when still preventable, and ignored while in progress, he must have thought everything was right on plan. The only thing left was to declare a 'war on terror' (a tactic), use that to unconstitutionally seize wartime powers, then launch a real war on an unrelated country to destabilize the region to make sure oil prices stay high and keep his corporate masters happy. We've done everything we could not to succeed. He is either insane, trying to bring on Armegeddon, shilling for big money, or he's actually a Manchurian candidate. The 'man' has lost his soul, and it would be fitting if his soul had to experience fly-on-the-wall fashion every minute of the life he cut short, had he not deciderated to wage his war of choice. What was the question? Oh yeah, good luck on not paying those taxes, a beach is created one grain at a time. What we need now is a beachful of grains standing up and voicing our outrage at the crimes being done in our name. God Bless you Chris, and Godspeed.

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» Let's All Do Our Part Posted by: vox persona
» Nice . . . Posted by: jackblack
» What would you do, Cathy? Posted by: mjabele
» RE: God Bless You Chris Posted by: grkjr
» RE: God Bless You Chris Posted by: Doubtom
Hmm, I stopped filing in 2001
Posted by: LeftWright on Nov 27, 2007 12:53 AM   
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when Bush was selected by 4 white men and one very confused woman; and the State of Florida and the nation were clearly defrauded. I have no ethical obligation to pay thieves.

No taxation without legal representation.

The Federal Income Tax is unconstitutional, anyway.

If you really want to stop them from attacking Iran, don't buy anything from corporations and occupy Washington D.C. until we get real elections with paper ballots again.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

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» "Nitwit Press"? Posted by: defrag
» "Government Puppet"? Posted by: chomsky
» RE: Fact is Posted by: UnEasyOne
» Here's a thought.... Posted by: bornxeyed
» Color-blind? Posted by: brunowe
» Thanks, brunowe Posted by: LeftWright
» RE: Thanks, brunowe Posted by: EncinoM
A non-starter
Posted by: andabottleof_rum on Nov 27, 2007 2:32 AM   
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If the U.S. attacks Iran, the economy will dive so badly you couldn't afford to pay taxes anyway.

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» RE: A non-starter Posted by: Basenjis
What do you believe?
Posted by: jackblack on Nov 27, 2007 2:39 AM   
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Maybe there’s a joke here and I’m just not seeing it. The administrations caustic rhetoric with our military forces in such close proximity to Iran is dangerous. Keep in mind that the USA is not the only country with a village idiot, Iran has a few too. Wars really do start this way and, if we start a war with Iran, they start one with us or, it starts because one village idiot mistakenly fires on another, the constitutionality of paying taxes in the US won't be something that you'll be concerned about.

If everyone does not pay their taxes I doubt it will prevent them from attacking Iran or stop the attack once it has started. But I'm cool with that, if that’s what you wanna do . . .

Actually though, I think Chris is on to something and economic actions by individual citizens are steps that need to be seriously considered by everyone. However, any actions taken if there gonna stop a war must have implications beyond civil disobedience.

The folks that think that they will profit from a war with Iran do so because they believe that the American public would never voluntarily stop driving their SUV’s. But what would happen if they did, pick one day a week to stop driving and burning fossil fuels? Perhaps, some of the folks in Europe, who are just as sick of this mess as most Americans, will follow our lead and do the same and folks in other places as well.

I believe actions like this will catch on, I believe they will impact the price of oil and I believe that it will send a message to the folks that aim to profit from a war between the US and Iran that the time of big oil is coming to a close.

What do you believe?

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» RE: What do you believe? Posted by: Cathyc
» RE: What do you believe? Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» Exactly!!! Posted by: zizizzi
Something To Ponder....
Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 27, 2007 3:29 AM   
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This is something that I have thought about but until now had not heard openly discussed. If the House and Senate won't stop funding the obscenity that our government is committing against the men, women and little children of Iraq, how come we can't do it?

How 'bout WEEDA PEOPLE, BABY???

If enough of us stood up and shouted "ENOUGH" it could happen. We could put the fucking military industial complex out of business forever if we really wanted to. Why is it that so much of our national treasure is wasted on the lifestyles of armaments dealers? The cold war ended almost twenty years ago (that is, before it was re-kindled by the half-witted piece of shit who at this very moment sleeps in the executive mansion). Why do we have to continue pissing our fortune away on companies that are turning this planet into a powder keg? It could happen - but it's only going to happen when all of us decide to take our country back from these hideous bastards and bitches (Hi, Condi!) Why can't we just stand up and say "We're not going to fund your holocaust machine any longer."

Enough already!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
SING, SCOTTY, SING!

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» RE: Something To Ponder.... Posted by: Peyotino
» I hate to say it Posted by: 2dogarage
» RE: I hate to say it Posted by: Doubtom
» RE: I hate to say it Posted by: Peyotino
» RE: Something To Ponder.... Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
» RE: Something To Ponder.... Posted by: Doubtom
» Preach It Posted by: rjgwood
Well Chris pack your bags, pymwymi
Posted by: gdonald on Nov 27, 2007 4:16 AM   
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Chris,

Jackblack is right. Why now? Alternet bloggers for the most part seem to be educated, intelligent, and able to reason, for the most part. Granted we who write comments do not all agree with each other and opinions vary greatly. So Chris since you bring up the subject of not paying taxes then maybe you should research that subject matter some and discover that some brilliant minds, including former IRS agents have already concluded that no true american should be paying the income tax because it is an illegal system.

Of course some wise ass will probably comment that this supposed illegal income tax stuff is all BS. If that should happen then it will tell me that the person saying it, really isn't that educated and knows not what they talk about.

Chris we have heard hollywood elitists claim they'd move out of the country in 04 if Bush got elected again and guess what, they're still here. The few who actually did flee to Canada after the election of 04 are now faced with the SPP and will soon find themselves once again under Bush's Amero system, another illegal operation.

Tom Degan suggests we take back our country and I agree but based upon the various blogs and comments all over the alternet web site, there aren't ten people who agree on anything and most are still convinced the Democrats are still our last hope. Ah, sleep on you slumbering masses who believe that there is still hope within one of the main parties but as for me I'm a realist. I can look at history and learn from it that we've had both parties in charge a few times over the past two hundred plus years and that's the reason we're in this mess. In fact just look at how Democrats's have operated just since the last election and you'll see if you choose to, that they have pretty much caved to the Bush Administration. The reason for this is because they are all so corrupted that they are blackmailed or bribed into staying the course.

So if Alternet is any indication of just how soon people will come together and work for a common cause, such as restoring our Constitutional Republic, it most likely will never happen. Hell, some people commenting on Alternet don't think we should even have a Constitution or be a nation anymore. How's that for true patriots.

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Is there a tax lawyer in the house?
Posted by: mazel on Nov 27, 2007 4:34 AM   
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This idea sounds good on paper. Unfortunately I don't think it would work. The IRS can garnish wages and raid existing bank accounts for money owed to them. I don't see why an escrow account would offer any protection--they'd just take it.

However, if this would indeed be legal--if the taxes were considered to be paid by the IRS even if they could not access the funds--I'd be interested in participating. But having had the IRS up my butt in the past I'm not willing to subject my family to being driven to the brink of bankruptcy again, sorry.

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Peering through the Bars!
Posted by: rocketman on Nov 27, 2007 4:46 AM   
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Do you think the Feds will let you write from jail.. Somehow, I don't think the IRS cares about your political views!

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Unintended Consequences
Posted by: Gilded_Truth on Nov 27, 2007 5:34 AM   
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rocketman & mazel you are correct.

About two years ago, my ex-husband started a business, which unfortunately failed within a few months. As a result, he owed the IRS about $25k. This year the IRS froze every account with my ex-husband's SS#. Guess what? My ex-husband co-signed a loan with our son to buy a car 4 years ago. My son, who is serving in Iraq, tried to get money out of his bank account the other day and could not access one penny because the IRS had frozen that joint account.

The IRS is a insidious, soulless behemoth. There has to be another way.

Oh, and my son in Iraq? He managed to borrow some money from two of his Iraqi interpreters while things get worked out with the IRS.

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» RE: Unintended Consequences Posted by: Doubtom
» RE: Unintended Consequences Posted by: rocketman
» RE: Unintended Consequences Posted by: izache777
Good idea in theory, but its already too late.
Posted by: Farasien on Nov 27, 2007 5:46 AM   
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The problem with economic disobediance is that its literally a drop in the bucket. Remember that the government gets a very large chunk of its war-mongering blood money from sales taxes and fees the multinational bankers pay while throwing our money away on bad business bets (thanks Fed...). I, too would love to see the whole USA stand up and tell the bastards in power where to stick their war and for the rest of the world to join us in doing so, but its a utopian dream that has no basis in reality. As long as the dumbasses here in the USA have their tank-sized SUV's, fake, worthless but flashy bling and their 2.5 fashion accessories... I mean children... nothing is going to change. It was said in another column that its going to take SERIOUS pain for the USA to wake up, and I think that statement is accurate. The psychotic bastards in control have already won, in my opinion. The old remedies used by the folks in the 60's won't work now- the people are too fat, stupid, apathetic and comfortable. Conversely, working within the system won't work because the foxes now rule the henhouse- they have set it up for an unending dynasty and completely subverted the lobotomized citizenry of this dying country. People here on AlterNet rage and wail on the things they would like to see people do to take America back from the yawning abyss we're leaning over, but people in general don't seem to understand that the time for resistance and revolt was already past by the mid-1980's. We ARE going to war with Iran, short of an all-out revolution, which is about as likely of winning the lottery. Its only a matter of ironing out the details now. We ARE going to see martial law declared here, and soon- again, its already been determined by the Big Money Party which runs the government; they're just waiting on the pretext event to happen to impliment it. If these aren't done by Bush the Traitor, they'll be done by Hillary the Traitor shortly thereafter. Its past time to think about resistance and its getting pretty late in the game to think about how to survive the dawning of the new Dark Age coming on us. I hate to sound like a apocalyptic survivalist, but unfortunately, I think all their predictions are just about to manifest themselves. Prepare yourselves as best you can, 'cause the end of even the quasi-free modern society, as we understand it, is near.

God save us all.

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» Bad idea in theory Posted by: defrag
» War Tax Resistance Posted by: Jbuuty
» Glad you brought that up Posted by: defrag
» Not so Posted by: brunowe
» It's NOT too late, IF... Posted by: aka_bozo
What's Not to Get?
Posted by: pdxstudent on Nov 27, 2007 6:08 AM   
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Chris isn't suggesting an elaborate plan to thwart a war with Iran, nor does he have to to be making a point. He's saying that there's something human about him he refuses to relinquish by paying income tax to an unjust government.

As to the first commenter, how can you be so dense? You don't ground a kid before they've done something to deserve it. Whether Hedges should have done that last year or the year before is irrelevant. His point is that a war with Iran is the last and irredeemable straw in what we all know is a long list of offenses.

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What's Not to Get?
Posted by: pdxstudent on Nov 27, 2007 6:08 AM   
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Chris isn't suggesting an elaborate plan to thwart a war with Iran, nor does he have to to be making a point. He's saying that there's something human about him he refuses to relinquish by paying income tax to an unjust government.

As to the first commenter, how can you be so dense? You don't ground a kid before they've done something to deserve it. Whether Hedges should have done that last year or the year before is irrelevant. His point is that a war with Iran is the last and irredeemable straw in what we all know is a long list of offenses.

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» RE: What's Not to Get? Posted by: jackblack
Mister
Posted by: Spock on Nov 27, 2007 6:34 AM   
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I not only started years ago (1986)recommending that people do everything legal (there are literally dozens of ways) to avoid paying income taxes, I started doing it. I haven't paid income tax since 1979. The tactic is part of the reason I was dubbed "the guerrilla lawyer" by Colorado reporter James Frazier. I wrote a book, "Letters to Aaron, the Hal Luebbert Story" about my war with the U.S. government, and it's on my www.judoknighterrant.com Website.

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Corporate boycott
Posted by: steven w on Nov 27, 2007 6:46 AM   
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A much more effective way to stop this war is through putting heat on our major corporations- stop buying all this stuff we don't need. Turn down the thermostat. Burn less gasoline. Stop eating out. Those who can, stop buying insurance. Buy everything you can from small independent retailers. stay out of Wal-Mart. Buy your phone and internet from smaller telecomms. Stop gambling and buying lottery tickets. Stop using credit as much as possible. You hurt them, and you hurt bushco and the corporate legislatures on both sides of the isle.

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» RE: Corporate boycott Posted by: mazel
» RE: Corporate boycott Posted by: lifeaholic
Right Idea, Wrong way of doing it...
Posted by: dsmidiman on Nov 27, 2007 6:46 AM   
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I think "hitting them where it hurts" is a good idea but not paying your taxes is a bad one. After all the govt. can and will eventually come after you if you do not pay your taxes. I think there is a better way.

This whole mess in the middle east and also the mess in our corporate controlled govt. is about making money. In the middle east the money is in OIL. Lot's of corporations are making big money rebuilding the destruction and devastation we inflicted on Iraq and feeding and taking care of our children we sent over there to demolish the country. But the money paid to these corporations is coming from the sale of Iraq's oil.

If the people in this country (US) changed our life styles so we quit guzzling gas and oil in significant enough ways it would cut the demand for oil drastically. Countries like Iraq, Saudi Arabia and others that supply us with that oil would quickly be swimming in thier oil and the price for that oil would come down drastically and the urge to over throw governments of oil producing countries and steal thier natural resource would go away. Hense, no reason to go to war. This sounds rather far fetched but it could be done and it would probably not need to be all that drastic of a change.

If everyone (EVERYONE)in this country took a week off of work and simply hung around the house being with thier families and friends and didn't drive thier cars anywhere for that week it would send a shock wave thru OPEC so intense the price of oil would come down dramatically and immediately. Do that enough times and oil is no longer the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Thieves like the current administration and all the cronnie corporations that are profiting big time stealing the revenues from Iraq and soon to be Iran would loose interest in doing so.

Yes hit them where it hurts, but do it without putting yourself in jeopardy. We the people of this country have the ability to manipulate our bought and paid for govt. even though we do not have the monetary means that the current govt. manipulators do. But if no is buying thier product (oil in this case) then they are not making the money they need to buy the govt. off. Simply laws of supply and demand.....

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What about the rest of the world?
Posted by: oldwoman on Nov 27, 2007 6:58 AM   
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Aren't there countries out there that would oppose a BushCo invasion of Iran with their own military threats and/or reprisals? Why would European countries with economic ties to Iran not object vociferously? Wouldn't Russia and China have serious objections?

Certainly the logic of projected fallout from other Islamic nations is clear from the article, but I can't help wondering whether the rest of the international community, equally aware of fallout potential, would just sit by and let it happen.

I sincerely hope they would not--whatever the effect on this country which has so thoroughly lost its soul.

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Don't Worry
Posted by: apophenia_monkey on Nov 27, 2007 6:59 AM   
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if bush attacks iran, there won't be much left to pay taxes on.

i still don't think he's dumb enough to open a 4th front. let me amend that--i HOPE he's not.

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Paying Taxes?
Posted by: Jbuuty on Nov 27, 2007 6:59 AM   
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I haven't paid taxes in 20+ years. It's really very easy; just don't make much money. Another option is to be a multi-millionaire Republican and stick a cow in a corner of your estate and plant a tomato and not plant corn and claim agricultural exemptions and so forth. While my not paying taxes has done nothing to stop Bush, I'm happy that I haven't paid for any of it.

Anyway, the point of the article had less to do with paying of taxes and the horror that the Bush regime is hoping to release on us and the rest of the world. Americans really need to care more - and I have no idea how to make that happen. We could use some general strikes, like you see happening in France, to shut down the country. It would probably get people imprisoned for aiding and abetting the enemy. But people are going to have to go to jail before this regime is forced to listen to the people.

I just can't imagine this regime allowing a real change, even through elections. Whether this means stealing elections again or declaring martial law, I don't know. But we are already in deep sh** and we seem to be heading deeper into it. As long as the majority of middle and working class people can buy inexpensive food and cheap toys and clothes at WalMart, I can't see much hope for change. It seems that we have sold our souls for a house full of useless gadgets and a stomach full of chemically-enhanced food.

Sorry for the pessimism.

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www.zeitgeistmovie.com
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Nov 27, 2007 7:16 AM   
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www.zeitgeistmovie.com

lots of thought-provoking (ok,scary) info about war, taxes, corporate control, federal reserve, world domination, etc...

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Bomb Iran=Ruin my golf game
Posted by: lifeaholic on Nov 27, 2007 7:42 AM   
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Russia
200 ICBM
7 stories underground
Each prepared to load 10 Hi tech nuclear warheads
Each ICBM can destroy a 200 miles radius.
Two will remove North Carolina from the map.
Just when my golf game is peaking. Darn!

Pentagon admits we cannot stop a russian ICBM once it is launched.

Has low-heat emission engines and hi tech decoys.

Putin plus two top Generals have warned our state department not to bomb Iran.

This is possible Armageddon.
Makes Rev. John Hogee happy.

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Change where there is no hope
Posted by: donneek on Nov 27, 2007 7:41 AM   
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I wonder if all of those opposed to the tyranny were to put ourselves on a Retail and Oil "diet", if in fact it would have any affect on the present situation. It seems that demonstrations go unnoticed because those news sources that would have covered them in the past have been bought up and converted to propaganda machines.

If we could have an impact on their bottom line, maybe finally they would listen. Caesar Chavez saw results from the grape boycott.

They can put us in jail for not paying taxes but they can't make us buy their products and support them through sales tax.

The States could eventually feel real pain at the loss of revenue and then hopefully the constituents voices via Capital Hill would have a better chance of being heard..

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They do not need your taxes, Mr. Hedge
Posted by: Reader11722 on Nov 27, 2007 8:08 AM   
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Chris, as a writer for the NY Times, you should know that they do not need your taxes. The Gov't can print all the money they want. The problem here is the lack of a gold/silver standard. Fiat money is yet another infringement on our rights by the gov't. Add it to the ever-growing list of violations:
They violate the 1st Amendment by opening mail, caging demonstrators and banning books like America Deceived (book) from Amazon.
They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns during Katrina.
They violate the 4th Amendment by conducting warrant-less wiretaps.
They violate the 5th and 6th Amendment by suspending habeas corpus.
They violate the 8th Amendment by torturing.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting 2 illegal wars based on lies and on behalf of a foriegn gov't.
Support Dr. Ron Paul, he'll shut down the IRS and Mr. Wedge will not need to give any reason to refuse to pay his taxes.

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» Weird paranoia Posted by: Joshua Holland
Pfft. Bravo!
Posted by: Erik1968 on Nov 27, 2007 8:47 AM   
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A brave, brave stand, indeed. I admire you for not biting on the torture. Way to keep 'em guessing.

I vow that if America attacks Iran, I will write snarky Alternet comments. Together, we can do nothing in the face of tyranny.

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Income tax!
Posted by: Frenchie! on Nov 27, 2007 8:48 AM   
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Where is the law allowing the government to collect income taxes? If it did exist why would the IRS lose court cases?
Here is a recent video (among many) regarding the matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Of8M1MZJQ

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