I really think that Dubya & Co, like most bullies , will fold up if they are punched directly in the nose. Congress doesn't have to do 50 things or 10 things. They just have to draw the line and stand their ground. Pick one good cause (Gonzo, for example) and see it through.
If BushCo claims Executive Privilege invoke inherent contempt and lock him and whomever gets in the way up. When the NeoCons see that Congress has had enough the rest will fall in line as all will see 'The Decider' for the lame duck that he really is.
To my fellow AlterNet readers:
If you see one of our Senators or Representatives out on the campaign trail, don't ask them about Iraq or anything other than what are they going to do with the power ALREADY in their hands to stop this cabal from going one inch farther. If they will not do their job as Senators or Representatives, what makes you think they will do any better as President? They are unworthy of your vote.

It's time to turn up the heat on those who claim to be Democrats.

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I sent the following letter to the editor of my local newspaper, Paris Post-Intelligencer, TN

I am a U.S. Citizen!

All 2008 presidential candidates are members of the prestigious cabal called the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), except a few. "We the People of the United States of America", are headed towards a one world government, if the members of the CFR have their way. The old NAFTA treaty, the CAFTA treaty, and the recently implemented Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) are stepping stones towards a "New World Order"(NWO).

What is the CFR agenda and who will it benefit the most? The hidden agenda of the CFR is to further diminish U.S. sovereignty, in order to foster free trade, which will benefit the owners of large multi-national corporations. The late Mr. Arthur M. Schlesinger wrote in the August 1995 edition of Foreign Affairs, "In defense of the world order ... U.S. soldiers would have to kill and die".

Today the European Union (EU) consists of 27 states, except Switzerland. On March 4, 2001 the Swiss voted on March 4, 2001 with a 77.3% majority to remain Swiss citizens, and not join the EU. The new EU Constitution has only been fully ratified by 16 of the 27 states.

I stand together with the proud Swiss, and prefer to remain a citizen of my own country, rather than a citizen of a supranational union. I like our present form of government established by the U.S. Constitution, and our liberties guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.

Ms. Daneen G. Peterson, Ph.D., gave a speech in Salt Lake City, UT, on September 9, 2006 entitled "America is a Constitutional Republic . . . NOT a Democracy". The contempt of the U.S. Constitution shown by our current president is evidenced by the part of her speech cited in the next paragraph.

..."In fact, the Constitution is far more than 'outmoded,' according to President Bush who rebuffed GOP leader's request to soft pedal some parts of the 'Patriot Act' by saying: "I don't give a goddamn . . . I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way." Then, responding to an aide who stated: "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution." Bush screamed back: "Stop throwing the constitution in my face . . . It's just a goddamned piece of paper!""...

In case you may be wondering, which presidential candidates are not members of the CFR, one answer is on the sign in front of my house, please look at it when you pass by. Additional information about the North American Union can be found at Dr. Peterson's website StopTheNorthAmericanUnion.com. Other information on the NWO can be found at YouTube.com.

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After the "Supreme" Court, against the wording (and definitely the spirit), stopped the determination of voter intent in 2000 and coronated our Decider-In-Chief, then stealing the 2004 election with a combination of voter disenfranchisement, dubious electronic voting machines whose CEO was an avowed Bush supporter, and exit polling that was right on the money everywhere except for Ohio, Bush literally has no one to answer to. He doesn't acknowledge checks and balances, public opinion, international law, policy precedent, that stupid ol' piece of paper (the Constitution), or any kind of transparency of government. There is literally nothing to stop him now, except for his own conscience (that sound is me throwing up and the founders rolling over). Cheney was just on C-SPAN a few hours ago listing a litany of things Iran is doing just asking for a bombing. The decision is made folks. Now all we need is either a false flag or a bad mood day on behalf of our Deciderator. We are going to wake up one day to find that everything is changed....and not for the better.

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There are not too many people out there as sharp as Jim Hightower. The guy is a national treasure and the very fact that his is not a household name is somewhat mystifying.

Yes, folks, your constitution is in mortal peril. Then again, the fact that you're sitting there at your computer, reading AlterNet and not some right wing screed/blog tells me that you are probably more than aware of this nasty little fact. Are we all just preaching to the choir, so to speak? No, it's much more than that. We inspire each other to get motivated and do something about it. The revolution probably won't be televised. But of this you may be absolutely certain: It will be on your computer.

Seventy five years ago next March 4, Franklin D. Roosevelt set this country on a new course. Until a feeble-minded piece of shit named Ronald Reagan began to dismantle it twenty-seven years ago, the New Deal worked beautifully for America. Prior to FDR, there was no middle class in this country. There was just the very rich, the professional class, and all the rest. All the rest lived in grinding poverty.

If you want a good look into what it was like in this country for the average worker pre New Deal, by all means, pick up the book called, "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair. When Mr. Sinclair died on November 25, 1968, his book was all-but-forgotten. I think it is telling that recent years have shown it to be gaining popularity again.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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...he will do it again. If he does, and succeeds, Congress and all who opposed him will be toast as part of the US makes him Emperor for life as the rest are put into camps.

That's why the gutless wonders do little, and the ones who have done anything at all to oppose him have balls of steel. Give credit where credit is due.

Once you know and can finally accept the facts about 9-11, everything makes horrific sense.

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No matter how long Bush's presidency has till he leaves office, now is the time to make it sooner. It's time to impeach him and Cheney and his whole crew. The damage being done to our country and aboard mandates that we take the step to impeach him now! It's the right thing to do! Do we want democracy here or do we want a dictatorship? Do we want terrorism in our own country by our own government or do we want freedom and integrity? Do we want to take responsibility for the election of our government officials or do we want others to do our work for us? Are we not a nation based on human rights and freedoms or simply a shallow facade of words and no actions? Do we want our freedom? Then, we will have to pay the price. Impeach Bush Now!

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sorry USA I feel it to late to stop this coup.who can you turn to? By the time the congress ;has a commitee in place,hearings called for,etc,etc Mr bush and whoever they want.will have cut democracy off at the legs. Now you poor saps can`t even leave the country because of the passport mess and if you try to protest.....they learned crowd control after the vietnam protests..so I feel you are screwed. trapped with dictator cheney and king george...or maybe...king jeb, god help you.

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The record shows that the Bush administration backed so-called "Comprehensive Immigration Reform (CIR)" in May and June, 2007. Now, there is an attempt to sneak through a standalone bill, S. 2205 - The "Nightmare" Act. It would be a massive government subsidy for crooked businesses.

S. 2205 would burden the U.S. taxpayer to the tune of trillions of dollars, since it is the first step of a permanent, rolling amnesty. Unlike the so-called CIR that Senate leadership attempted to pass earlier in 2007, this bill has NO enforcement provisions.

Sen. Reid is attempting to sneak this one through via Rule 14, with a cloture vote set for Wednesday, Oct. 24. Call your Senators at (202) 224-2121 now to protest. You may also use the free citizen activism tools at http://NumbersUSA.com and http://www.FAIRUS.org

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I know it's easier when you're older and your children have had a chance to grow up, but it's really important to put fear aside and embrace the challenge before us. Jim Hightower and Tom Degan, among others, are doing it. We can all do it.

Get a more optimistic perspective than TPTB would like you to have. "We are all doomed" is a cop-out. Even with all the state terrorism directed against the people of Iraq (this has a very long history), there are Iraqis still around. Another 9/11 type of attack (of whatever origin) on American soil is not likely to wipe out everyone.

In my view, the complete surveillance and control of the population is not an achieveable goal. (What is achievable is the security industry making money by selling imperfect technology.) Have any of you ever chaired a meeting? People are too contrary to go along with any single notion, however often they are described as sheeple.

Remember that the Vietnamese routed the military might of the US of A with tunnels and bamboo sticks.

I'm not saying that bad things are unlikely or impossible, but that they are damned difficult.

Bang those pots and pans!

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IMPEACH BUSH AND HIS CRONIES. THEY ARE THE TERRORISTS - THEY ARE WAR CRIMINALS. By doing nothing we are allowing these corrupt politicians to disrespect our constitution and all those who have given their lives protecting our country, our constitution, our way of life. How could we allow these despicable, sorry, disgusting, arrogant bas***** to disregard us and our constitution so openly. Demand accountability. The Bushies must pay for their crimes. We cannot wait any longer. Demand of those we put in office to do the job we sent them there to do. Rid our country of this corruption and these corrupt politicians. Send the message to our young people that crime does not pay.

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If Bush’s criminal regime were disappearing thousands of Americans into secret detention camps, would anyone tell us? Do you think our fascist owned Monopoly Media would warn us? Maybe not, but that’s crazy talk, right? They couldn’t keep something as horrific as that secret, could they? It’s not as if an iron curtain of secrecy has a descended on America, right?

But the thing is, dictators have used terrorism against their own people in the past and continue to do so today. It couldn’t happen in America no matter how much power Cheney & Bush have illegally seized, with no resistance from our Democratic leadership. It’s not as if our elected representatives are so terrified of Bush’s Fascist Regime that they’d sacrifice troublemakers to save themselves, but what if they don’t know what’s going on?

Bush controls all three branches of government, our armed forces, CIA, FBI, NSA, police and his private mercenary armies, but if you or I disappeared tomorrow, someone would notice and investigate. Right?

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DENNNIS KUCINICH, CONGRESSMAN FROM OHIO, HAS BEEN LIKE BARBARA JORDAN FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS, WORKING AND VOTING AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ AND AGAINST ITS FUNDING... VOTING AGAINST THE PATRIOT ACT, SPEAKING OUT AGAINST TORTURE AND ILLEGAL DETENTIONS (BY THE WAY, DON'T MISS THE MOVIE "RENDITION"), AND FOR SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE (WITH WHAT WE WOULD SAVE BY CUTTING THE WAR EXPENDITURES)
HE IS A DEM PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. HE GETS NO COVERAGE BY THE MEDIA, BECAUSE HE WOULD WIN IF HE DID GET HEARD BY ENOUGH PEOPLE AND TREATED LIKE A SERIOUS CANDIDATE (WHICH HE CERTAINLY IS).
HE'S BEEN IN CONGRESS OVER 10 YEARS .... HIS RECORD SPEAKS OF GREAT PERSONAL COURAGE AND RESPECT FOR THE CONSTITUTION AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY.

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http://freewayblogger.com/

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where were you guys when the clintons were collecting fbi files on US citizens,political opponents,dems and reps. where were you guys when clintons were taking dough from Chicoms? Where are you guys now that they are doing it again?
Bush is after terrorists not political opponents. I have never seen such a collection of whackos as I have on this site.

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For more that two years, I've been reading articles here and elsewhere warning America that if we don't rise up soon, there's trouble ahead. We are warned that the democracy and all of our most cherished principles are at stake and there has been no response from America.

First, let's recognize that we're well beyond that. There comes a time in the evolution of a republic into a dictatorship when the democratic processes that define a republic are no longer efficacious, processes such as voting, campaigning, letter-writing, protesting, referenda generation and the like. Obviously, none of things had any power in Hitler's Germany or Marcos' Philippines. When that time comes, the republic is gone and cannot be revived if it cannot be recovered by force.

There hasn't been an "if we - then they" threat to democracy since before the 2006 election. Clearly, democracy was already dead in America by then. We had had three consecutive tainted elections already in 2000, 2002, and 2004, all with losers assuming office. Then, in 2006, the voters sent Congress and the president a mandate to begin ending their war. They laughed. Congress took impeachment off of the table and approved Bush's war budget without benchmarks, goals or timelines. Bush escalated the war.

Another poster noted, "We've been out on the streets, tasered, put in the jails, blacklisted by Homeland Security, given federal prison sentences for non-violent protest, and organized until we're exhausted, but nothing changes"

I believe that it's too late for activism. "So, let us not talk falsely now - the hour is getting late."

Next, let's recognize that the American people are just as morally defective as their (our) government.

America is a cruel country populated by a jaded, self-indulgent, consumptive and self-centered people. So, Americans are well represented by a cruel, arrogant, ignorant, inarticulate, sociopathic imitation of a cowboy. These are not the qualities of Bush that America objects to, and they were out there for all to see certainly by 2004, when Bush garnered close to half of the votes legitimately.

What America objects to is that Bush isn't kicking Iraq's ass hard enough. If Blackwater could squelch the resistance in Iraq and get the oil flowing, even if it used genocide to do so, Bush would be a popular president. Torture is not an issue for Americans. Nor the loss of their rights. Americans don't mind Bush snubbing the UN, the French or Kyoto.

Katrina is no problem for Americans to absorb. They may tsk-tsk a little, but they don't really care. Lying America into the Iraqi quagmire, or outing an undercover CIA operative? Both were well known in 2004 - and apparently weren’t deal breakers for the good American people in Bush’s bid to keep the White House. No problema. Despite the extremely long laundry list of Bush's failures and deficiencies, the only reason America has given up on him is the same reason Steinbrenner turned on Joe Torre: he’s not kicking enough ass.

So, the whole kit and caboodle is damaged goods. The Republicans, the Democrats and the people, for whom the politicians are merely a reflection, an epitome, are all ready for history's trash pile.

I believe that this race is run, and it's time to begin recognizing that this problem is out of the hands of the people now, and that they were never up to it in the first place. America was anxious to go where Bush took them, and apparently fully approved. It's only progressives that have objected - mostly to each other on sites like this.

As I’ve indicated many times before, it’s time to give up on America and the American people. They’re really not worth fighting for. For krissake, they don’t even object to fraudulent wars and torture.

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I'll be the first one to bid Bush farewell but this constant talk about the constitution being trampled is uninformed panic.

We should all remember that the first question asked after 9-11 is how come we didnt know about these plans. How did this happen. To Bush's credit he addressed this problem (he may have screwed up most other things but this he is getting right.

The the policies that this administration and congress have instituted are those that fit the times and circumstances and are no different than what was done in other wars..including the civil war.

Dont let the emense dislike for Bush blind us in what makes sense and what doesn't.

Our focus should be on what could be another war with Iran. Should that happen our homefront will be in deep shit and the current "trampling" on the constitution will seem like ants walking compared to the buffalo we can expect!

Hopefull congress has the balls (which they don't) to stall any actions until a new President takes office!

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Last night I finally figured out the complete story of what is happening to the United States. There is a severe oil shortage in the world, and the Western nations, especially the United States, have a desparate need for oil. Iraq was a very weak country, especially after years of sanctions. Iraq has enough oil to resolve the Western nation oil shortage for 30 years or more, and the Western nations could continue to be prosperous. Thus the United States and other western countries invaded Iraq in 2003. In order to allow the oil companies to fully harvest Iraq's oil, a long-term twenty or thirty year commitment by the United States armed forces is necessary. Thus the huge American military camps in Iraq are being built.
But there was the very inconvenient fact that the United States was a democracy and the President was supposed to change after eight years. For a while, the oil interests considered keeping their prime team, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, in office past 2008. They may have decided that this would cause too much outrage, so their next plan was to subvert the 2008 elections via the Justice Department and Alfredo Gonzales. This also provoked outrage. Now I think these interests are somewhat resigned to the fact that George W. Bush cannot continue to be President, so the next best thing is to do whatever it takes to make sure the next President, Republican or Democrat, follows the Bush family oil agenda. Thus now even the major Democratic candidates are toeing the Bush family line on keeping troops in Iraq and speaking out vociferously against Iran. The major requirement to be President in 2008 is to follow the Bush family agenda.

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It was too late before the 2000 selection was over.
Even before the Shrub said, wait till the votes are counted.
He still lost even after all of their trickery. But, nobody knows it! The Faux Media or The Cor‘pirate’ BULL HORN is too busy spewing BU__! SH__!, to tell you the truth. Disinformation and propaganda is all you get. Everybody knows it.
You think any of these Media Prostitutes are going to say a word? They’ve sold out. They’re on the payroll. The are pawns in the game and willing participants in the deception.The Shrub resents you. He was born into nobility and you’re just a clog in the machine. What we have now is a Demockery. A sham. A Puppet Show for paupers.
Steal everything for their friends! Empty the Treasury. Devalue your savings. Ruin The Dollar. Things are really looking up from Bushes paper cup.
That Silver Spoon has really worked wonders for him and his treacherous family.
Shills for Billionaires. They’ll do all the dirty work for a pittance of the haul.
The Corpirates have taken over. They are in complete control. They own all the Media. They own the Arms companies. You even dunk their donuts. They're ordering the Militia to commit suicide in a phony War. Sacrifice more of your sons and daughters for Dead Eye Dick. Who controls the Dark Army?
The Dark Army stands in violation to the constitution.
Oh, I forgot! The Constitution is just a piece of paper.
Bush’s toilet paper.
Better be good or they will send the dark army aganist you, again. Just like they do everyday to other poor countries. They have privatized your government. They own it. The Nazi’s won the War. The Corpirates who perpetuated the Nazi rise, won here. All those Fairy Tales about WWII are meaningless. They are selling World War III. We live in a Fascist Stupid State. Where the politicians are traitors.
Where the Secret Police. NSA, FBI, CIA, Torture and Spy on us! Why! Because they are afraid of you. You're the enemy within. The Sleeping Giant must be bound and tied.
Lied to and denied or he might awaken someday and Kick these Bass-Turds ass. Who's ass? The Alien Aristocracy.
The Shrub, Dead Eye Dick and the rest of his Corpirate Traitors.
Who rape and pillage the world in the name of Democracy and freedom.
Greedy Hypocrites and Liars who worship the golden calf.
Too bad nobody can put two and two together anymore and stop them.
They are too busy watching The FAUX MEDIA, working three jobs and drowning in debt.
The Shrub’s idea of the New Ameri-con Dream.
Three jobs and in Debt!
The Slaves have all been co-opted: Brain washed, Poisoned, Imprisoned, Militarized, Drugged, Tortured, Sick, Spied on, Afraid, Overworked and Underpaid. How wonderful for Bush & Con. Sell them more delusion and poison. The weight of the whole Corpirate system is riding on your shoulders. While our Militia is overseas robbing oil, who is going to protect us here?
From Dead Eye Dick the Virtual Vigilant?
They have weapons you haven’t even dreamed of to use in
Another War. Don’t worry! They will provide the weapons and the army. The only thing you must provide is the BLOOD to lubricate the wheels of their War Machine.
Mindless Robo-Trons bully and victimize people so they can,
Sell you another even bigger pile of sh__. Robots control us now. Look at them. They show no emotion. They have no positive human qualities. What are they? Alien Politicians
Talking Endless! BU__! SH__! The system is corrupted.
Shut it down. REBOOT!

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Mike Dodd is threatening a filibuster if the NSA spying doesn't stop. I'll have to check out if he has Presidential worth otherwise, still.

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Occam's razor-like, you said it.

They obviously got Hillary on board. In case no one has noticed, the two most genuinely popular candidates in the party nomination races, Kucinich and Paul, are constantly sidelined by the corporate controlled media.

Let him who has eyes see. It's so bloody obvious that the whole political scene these days is a gigantic sham, the only wonder is how those still in denial manage to look at themselves in the mirror.

War is the biggest segment of the economy. Oil is second. It has been this way for years. No one has the guts to challenge this SOP.

A general strike might be a good way to begin, but good luck trying to make that happen. I have posted that suggestion several times on comment threads at various sites, and each time it was met with absolutely no response from anyone.

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It has been aptly said that "children are little mirrors" -- that is, they are reflections of their parents, for good or for ill. The writer who pointed out that Americans are all they pretend to abhor was correct. The leadership in Washington is but a reflection of what the citizenry accepts as its own identity. If enough people feel they don't fit the mold, then it is their duty to change the mold.

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I went to bed last night (not to sleep) having read Naomi Wolf's new book. I woke up to Hightower. This is the most terrifying stuff I've encountered in my long lifetime. Those of you responding to this article, run out for her book The End of America. Her research is impeccable. We are watching the last days of a (very) short lived democracy. Unless we stand up. Let's not whine, let's work!

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http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/10/22/4733/

Now, could SF wake up and RECALL that fucking HAG and give Cindy Sheehan a chance to lead ?!?!?

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The essential ingredients in the concept of governance of, by and for the people are two: intelligence and integrity. Intelligence presupposes that the citizenry will inform itself of issues that affect their daily lives and prospects. Integrity requires that intelligence be relied on to put in place only such representatives as will shun partisanship and fulfill their oaths to uphold the Constitutions and laws of the States and United States. This is a nation that commands neither and instead opts for governance ordained by the "have mores." You cannot expect that a sales hustle with deep pockets advertizing utilizing all media can be overcome by bloggers and frustrated progressives that do not understand the power of the purse and the might of the sword that ennobles it. Henry Gonzalez, Barbara Jordan, Dennis Kuchinich, Russ Feingold and too many others, Hightower included, lack the empowerment and resolve to alter the course. Why? Because stupidity, temerity and criminality will always trump intelligence and integrity until the victims rise and do battle. Is "burn baby, burn" too far removed from our memory banks? I think it is. Once we cleared the decks of the bloodshed of JFK, Martin and Bobby, we opened the doors to Nixon, Reagan and the Bush crowd. God Bless America? Bullshit...God damn America!!!!!!!

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No single hero and his supporters can do anything to stop Bush & Cheney from provoking World War Three. Only a palace coup has any chance of arresting them before it's too late.

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Your post is on except:

Only anti-CFR candidate Ron Paul

Kucinich is there too, and moreover why I propose that these two abandon their soldout parties and run a one term clean-up of the beltway, foreign policy, clean elections and campaign finance... Right and Left have everything at stake, these two can join us.

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Oh yeah...suuuurrrrree...I'm gonna support a libertarian economic Darwinist that would just as soon sell our national parks to the highest bidder, completely deregulate business, dismantle Social Security, Medicare, and every other highly successful program underpinning a fragile quality of life guaranteed in every industrialized nation but ours, a man who'll make sure that health insurance companies are free to exercise their God-given right to deny people care to guarantee their profit margins for functioning as useless middlemen in the most broken health care system in the free world.

Oh, yeah, Ron Paul! Jumpin' jiminy, he's jes' like Jeezus Keeerhist hisself!!! He's the ANSWER!! Whoooooooeeee!!! Only Ronny understands the magnitude of the problem! That's why a flat tax is so important -- we need to complete the transfer of the burden of paying for this crony war profiteering to the middle and lower class that Reagan started.

You gotta be smokin' some really good rope over there, my friend. You'd and the rest of the Ron Paul campaign staff would be better served trying to convince people on FreeRepublic.com.

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I believe this to be true. My thoughts have been certified.

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America has always been a battleground of ideas. Edmund Burke in the mother country and Tom Paine. The elitist Hamilton and Jefferson the egalitarian. The Robber Barons and Tammany Hall against the common good.

I didn't like being fingerprinted and being forced to swear a loyalty oath in the 1950s, anymore than I like the idea of having to report to another city to have my irises scanned. But we got through the McCarthy era and we have to get through the Bush era.

When Harold Wilson was prime minister TPTB considered a military coup but decided against it. Can't you see the cracks in the administration? Guess what? Your worst dreams--like your best hopes--would be pretty hard to realize.

I think that the Nancy Pelosi-Hilary Clinton pact suggested by a commenter upthread is very promising. Neither one of them can afford to be seen to have sold out the American people for personal reasons. Out them and get rid of the roadblock to impeachment.

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Jeez!

What a bag of crybabies! All this handwringing and pillowbiting ain't gonna stop the wheels of history from grinding our bones to flour! But when has that stopped us before?

Americans must be the most gloomy people in history--they make the Swedes look postively comic! How come only GWB gets to guffaw any more? Look--some day soon, the blood will run in our gutters, and we will not have the time or energy to join the paddy farmer and dirt-scratcher in joyful gratitude for this life.

Quit feeling bad. We are not to blame for what is happening to the world--forces greater than us are at play here (and I believe more than anything else, those forces are testing our ability to laugh, love & dance in their face. If you cannot laugh at the devil, then you are damned!) I mean, some of us are lucky enough to have a larger role to play in history's sweep, and by all means, play your part the best you can. But only a lunatic would weep to sleep for not being one of the Beckhams or Bonos. Are we a nation of lunatics? I thought not.

Here's what is going to happen: the pendulum will swing wider and wider, the stakes will rise and rise, and reactions will become stronger and stronger. This scenario WILL play out with a big bang that will make the Reign of Terror look like the Night of the Long Knives. I pray that you and your children will not suffer more than those who deserve it, but in the meantime, make like the Weimars and treat yourself to a good stiff drink. And for God's sake, cheer up!

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Pelosi is absolutelt wrong. I knew she would "cave" at the first chnace to really act.
Recall her and others. They are not acting on the behalf of their constituents.

Even Diane Feinstein is wrong, She refuses to Impeach get her out of there. For all the good things she's done. This solely out weighs it.

Arianna Huffington, had the chance to confront Pelosi on her resent interview on The subject of Impeach or Stop the War . Arianna said she believed it would take too much.... energy away from ending the war.

But these three women, it just so happens to be, they just don't get it.

End BUSH means End the war. Impeach the SOB. Or do what ever needs to be done to stop these pirates that have taken over the country.
Bush / Cheney are the domestic enemies of the United States of America.

Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.... to protect it from this domestic enemy. Where is our military when we need them ?

They've been shanghaied!

Why can't the nation rally to make it happen. What have we got to loose?

The people that work for the Corporate media and all Corporate powers are the scared ones stopping it from happening because they are so scared of loosing their jobs, their livelihoods. THeir 401k's their retirement, thier American Dream.

Mean while the nation and whole world is going to bury itself under the guise of an illusionary sense of ( temporary) well being. Their selfish ways will lead to their childerns burden

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I for one am tired of sitting here at my computer, complaining about the unjust facist that we call our president, so what can we as american citizens do about it, I will do all I can, but I'm tired of this "we need to rise up" shit and not seeing a damned thing being done about it. Stop talking about it and let's do it. who's with me.?

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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." (July 1920)

-from Dark Ages America written by Morris Berman
chapter 8

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Plutocrats rule. Pick your poison.

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Pitchforks and torches (once again). The only way to bring down tyrants is to destroy them - figuratively or literally - it doesn't matter. As long as we have honest elections and an informed electorate - figurative works. If the election process gets much more trashed or special interests get any more powerful literal destruction will be the only, last option, alternative. Of, by and for the people, not the oligarchy.

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the bad guys have won it. Edmund Burke is oft-quoted as a good guy but he defended the indefensible Norman-English aristocracy--because he was scared by the (relatively minor) bloodshed at the Bastile.

Gird your loins,all you egalitarian girls and guys. The real battle is psychological.

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November 6th? I'm IN.

Great article. Too bad this kind of talk is coming so late.

I think we strike at least once a week till election day. and for a week straight ON election day. What the hell... we should step it up till these bastards are hung from flagpoles (after a impeachment, a stint at guantanimo, and when that's repealed, a fair trial).

PEACE

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Take your kids out of public school. Teach them at home.

Find a way to make a low income living-out of the system as much as possible- and live on it. Sell anything expensive you don't need.

Grow a garden-eat what you grow. Join an worker owned- food co-op for the rest. Don't eat at resturants. (Except for worker owned radical cafe's and such)

Develop alternative energy for your home. Solar, woodstoves what ever will work when the grid is shut off. Store lots of food, candles, matches and more. Put your money into food and tools instead of the banks.

Don't buy a new car. Drive an old one and get a horse or mule if you live outside the cities.

Don't buy new clothes- Buy things at second hand stores and garage sales.

Organize your area. Trade skills. Organize communities that have their own community wells, gardens, windmills and so on.

NOW have a General Strike.

Some people say we should start bombing dams. Two for the price of one. One for the Revolution, One for the fish and sediment. Not me, mind you- but some people.

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I think it has come time to seriously think about a 2nd AMERICAN Revolution! It is time for the American!!! people to stand up and say enough is enough and throw those UN-American's out of OUR White House!


I have never heard or read of anyone voicing these thoughts. Why is that? Could it be that many Americans fear retribution from the bushies? I remember back in the bushs first term and America's first sentence under the bush. Many Americans were treating the bush as the second coming of Jesus Christ, God told me to attack Iraq. Remember that sad part of American history? I will never forget it!

A man in Oregon was at a bar and said something detrimental about the bush and was thrown into jail! Nobody talked about it much and I was here in nowheresville Juneau Alaska in awe that such a travesty like this flagrant abuse of power could happen in America...today!

Have Americans lost their balls???

I suffered a major brain injury on 9/12/1990 when the world was first experiencing the internet highway. The beginning of the information age. Back in the good ol' days of Bill Clinton.

Oww, got some on here the anti-Clintonites bushies that I know patrol these message boards waiting to spout out their anti-liberal views. Anyone that won't agree to their lies is a liberal to those Neanderthals.

Because of my brain injury like most of us had to re-learn everything. Walk, talk, speak, think, everything you can think of that has to do with the human condition. The really hard one to accept was that people lied! People lied? People don't always tell the truth??? Why??? Why would people lie?

One of my sayings now is that IF your not as good as your world you ain't worth s_it! Bush is not as good as his word is an understatement. My statement applies especially to the filth that is bush!

Bush, the president of America??? Welcome to my nightmare!!!

Now that bush has brought WW3 out of the bag it makes me wonder IF one of my hypothesis's may be correct.

Where would the best place be for the Anti-Christ to be before it makes it's final struggle against God's creation? How about the most powerful country on earth...America! Bush the anti-Christ??? Naw...he's too much of an idiot!

Maybe but at one time he enjoyed the popularity that the anti-Christ is supposed to attract according to the new testament.

In revelations it says that many will claim to be Christian but few are. It also says that being complacent is the true sin.

Complacency is everywhere. Look at all the homeless in America. The RICHEST nation in the world and we have a large population of homeless people! Complacency the true sin!

It is time for the ordinary people of America to stand up and say enough throw those Neanderthal bums out of America's house!

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America is brainwashed. The 9/11 event was a strong conditioning force, but the majority were quite asleep long before that time.

They had accepted corporate corrupt rule, a legalized bribery system where their interests were not near the top of the list. That was evident with the export of millions of our jobs to lower paying third world countries. Those in charge were not representing us, or our interests, not for a very long time.

The false flag / allowed to happen 9/11 attack was the final solution to fat stupid Americans who own too much wealth for the masters' liking. It was the seminal event of a new act in the class struggle -- in addition to its foreign policy / resource grab objectives.

Bush was installed (unlawfully) to bankrupt the nation, thereby leading to desperation, militarism, and expanded government control of our lives (techno-fascism).

The endless war paradigm ("war on terror") which is accepted by every sector of the elites, becomes the smoke screen to accomplish a whole lot of other nasty business.

With an oligarchy in control of the media, and very little true opposition allowed to speak to the masses at all, they feel quite comfortable pushing the envelope with more outrageous assaults on our liberties, our econimic interests, our children, our very minds. We are drowning in half truth propaganda, and the people are routinely offered a Coke v. Pepsi choice to rule over them -- as if it really mattered.

Much cognitive dissonance out there, paralysing the masses, preventing them from agreeing on a solidarity plan.

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"If you had, you'd know you can always hire half the poor to kill the other half."
--Boss Tweed (Gangs of NY)

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If you're not happy with what is going on in this country, then you MUST TAKE YOUR STATEMENTS TO THE PEOPLE and PROTEST...... organized protest is the only way to voice your disapproval of what is going on in this country....... and not just the Constitution being trampled on....

look at what NY wants to do.... give illegal immigrants a driver's licnese..... NOT!

Bank of America is giving our credit cards to illegal immigrants..... STUPID move.

Congress is considering providing college grants and loans to illegal immigrants.... WHAT??????

Our own citizens can't get college loans, with the high cost of a college education these dyas, and Congress wnats to give away our hard earned money to illegal immigrants? Damn, we're screwed.....

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IS George W. Bush to blame? No. He's president by default. Is Dick Cheney to blame? No. He's a thug, but he wouldn't last a day if we had any backbone. Is Nancy Pelosi to blame? No. Everyone knew that she was guttless. Then who is to blame. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE TO BLAME. They just don't give a damn. Things like democracy, freedom, libery mean nothing to them. Most don't even bother to vote.

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A false flag was committed to occupy the last remaining oil reserves. Oil is that important and this is why Bush thinks history will prove him correct.

Republicans are trying to lose elections, because they know the house of cards is about to fall. How do they know? because most of them are oil men and women who have watched oil production stagnate and decline.

Forget about the government saving us, it is too weak now and will become even weaker. Get ready for a depression that has no end. Learn how to raise livestock, grow food and store food. Oil has peaked and we have no alternatives to this energy dense gift from the dinosaurs. Even wind is a net energy loser.

Hey, it could be worse, we could be wasting our remaining resources fighting wars for a resource that will soon be gone anyway.......oh wait

Good Luck, Build and earth home and go off grid

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"MultiMillion" dollar estates gone! over 350,000 and counting.

These are the republicans, people that will be forced to realize and scream to the top of their smoke filled lungs when the great insurance companies in the sky claim bank ruptcy.

Just watch as the kaos is unleashed. Like when they all realize ,"hey where was the National Guard?"

Like when these former fat cats see how long Homeland Security takes to get the check in the mail!
Winter is coming on folks. The real "Fire Storm" is yet to come. Listen when Schwartsnagger get's pissed.

The coup de tat is going to be the people taking over or being run over by the governement. Man, this is a great time for Bush to initiate marshall law.

Where will the San Diego Charges play ball? People are going to need that stadium to make home?

Oh, Where is the Fed-eral Gov. going to get the money to give "low interest loans" to people. Oh, out of thin air.

Oh, this could get the housing market back in high gear.
Man, I can hear the dollar signs ringing in my ears now.
There's money to be made here.

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He's got an exit strategy for hisseff n' his kin... you got one?

The shitstorm is coming...

(I always wanted to do that.)

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Certainly all the things you suggest are needed, but they are not enough. We have to address the security issue, not just dismiss terrorism fears--that will never be more than a fringe opinion. I believe Bin Laden planned the 9/11 attack to trigger the self-destruction of the United States--by destroying our Constitution. He wants a Soviet-style internal collapse in this country.

I'm wary when people quote noble high-minded speeches in defense of our Constitution, whether from Barbara Jordan or the powdered wig set. I quote the machiavellian Federalist Papers. "If men were angels, they wouldn't need a government, and if they were governed by angels, they wouldn't need a constitution." We are not and never will be governed by angels.

The Founders weren't angels, either. The Constitution--checks, balances and all--is the blueprint for a permanent superpower--an empire that will rise and never fall. The plan was to maximize American power through a 'more perfect union' -- Texas oil, midwestern farmland and New York ports together under one central government that doesn't screw it all up equals World Superpower. The Bill of Rights is in there so minorities and the underclass don't blow their stack and revolt. If anyone else had pulled off what the Founders did -- say, a United States of Africa -- they'd be running the world instead of us.

That's a cynical but not entirely dark view -- the Founders believed some degree of morality in government--The Bill of Rights--was necessary to keep the state from destroying itself -- to abort what Aristotle called the 'cyclical decay of the state'. It's the only reason Bush 41 didn't open fire Tianemen-style on the L.A. rioters. Madison told him he'd ultimately bring down the U.S. behaving that way.

So Bush is tampering with the blueprints of the American superpower. He's playing out Bin Laden's vision to bring down America: Destroy their Constitution, and thereby destroy their nation.

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I do repair jobs for this family.They are in their middle
forties.3 yrs ago Limbaugh was daily guest,Bush picture
was in the living room,then one the boys in Iraq was killed
and the other's leg was blown.He is going throgh the drill at
the vets,the Betheda syndrome.
The guy had small company lawnmoving,he was injured
last july.I have noticed envelopes sitting there unopened
for days and days,letters from the mortgage companies
they just look each other,one senses the crisis.
I just wonder,how many people that blindly follow this bunch
is in similar predicament?
You guestsed,there is not more Limbaugh,and the other.

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Globalization, the conspiracy behind the coup, was kicked off in earnest by Clinton and his congress of R's and D's. Clinton and his congress also reclassified Americans as a workforce. Clinton and his congress passed the Omnibus Budget Reconcilliation act of 1993 he initiated the destruction of employer health care benefits plans(compensation for employees) by tranferring first payer responsibilitites from corporations to medicare, a windfall of billions given to corporations in light of the democraphics showing the average age of Americans has us entering our final years when the most health care is necessary. Read about The Third Way.
Bush has followed on with CAFTA, and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America. (note that it is not called a treaty).
Bush and his congress of R's and D's advanced the police state at home. Converting the Justice Department to his personal legal service that rubber stamped his outright acts of tyranny and rebellion against the Constution.
Bush and his congress of R's and D's initiated Eisenhower warned this country about the military industrial complex. R's and D's in Congress approved Bush's act of aggression against Iraq. Most notable when the people got fed up last November with Bush's 30 year war and his annointed powers as world cop by the R and D political system, they were stampeeded from the R side to the D side of the politcal system and voted majority power to the D side expecting change. The D side showed complicity and collusion with the ongoing Globalization conspiracy, the economic conquest of the world. Corporatism reigns and americans reclassified as the workforce are now government by business and economic principles. Economic Development is funded by the assets resources and tax money of the lower class to insure the success and profitablity of the Corporations.
Weath transfers from the lower class to the super rich and corporations.
Globalization is a conspiracy of the R and D political system to subjigate all people with the market economy.
Corporations hold the monopoly on jobs, thereby controlling wages, everything we buy comes from corporations who control the prices. People are on an econoic treadmill. This is not a free society, this is slavery!
When corporations run into economic problems they solution them by layoffs, firings and pay and/or pension and benefit cuts, throwing all of those people into their own personal economic depression.
When you only make enough money to sustain your family this is peonage, indentured servitude, tenant farmers, serfs and you dont need bars on the windows or chains on your ankles when you are ruled to business and economic principles.

It is time for all Americans to destroyed the R and D political system that has laid this conspiracy upons us.
Voter imposed term limits are the method
Never vote for an R or a D or anyone that has ever been an R or a D.
Vote only for those statemen and statewoman that will look you in the eye and swear to return this nation to the principles of the Constitution. (You may need to write the names in on the ballots to avoid manipulation of the vote through electronic voting that R's and D's forced upon us with HAVA)
We have degenerated to what we are by allowing R and D politicians to nest in the seats of government and play musical chairs with government seats.

Our nation has degenerated to nothing more that a mob of political hacks who have assumed autocratic powers. Help save this nation and yourself apply you personal voter imposed term limits.

On term and theyre all out!

What have you got to lose?

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What will all this matter if/when they steal our votes again? We had 'em in 2000 and 2004. How will this outcome be any different?
I will do my part in voting for the best Democratic candidate but in my heart, I believe it will be for naught.

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if it comes to "picking up pitchforks", etc., then when do we start? i would rather give my life fighting the tyrants than live any longer under their rule. literally. dying for freedom holds no fear for me, but i can't go it alone, nor would i know where to start. there needs to be another revolution.

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I am terrified of the sentiments of some posters that suggest we simply give up because humans are inherently bad.

Apathy is the #1 enemy of change. Often, we are our own worst enemy.

Think of people who have been in much more severe situations. Holocaust survivor Victor Frankl went on to write "The Search for Meaning". In it he says "between stimulus and response is a space. In that space lies our power and freedom to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and freedom."

I choose life, democracy, and freedom. How about you?

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From 2005-2006, Pro-Israel Funds to Congress TOTALED: $3,277,693

The TOTAL 2005-2006 Election Cycle Congressional recipients of Arab American PAC Funds to Congress TOTALED:
$80,500.-Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 2007 edition



On October 21, 2007 I once again FAXED President Bush and my Fl. Senators after sending an email seeking justice:

An open independent investigation of the Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY on June 8, 1967-

And an END to the 40 years of Occupation of Palestine.




I was pissed after I received an email reply from Senator Nelson -who received $89,861 Pro-Israeli PAC funds from 2005-2006;


For he admitted USA's "symbiotic relationship with Israel"

President George Washington warned in his Farewell Address of September 17, 1796:

"The nation which indulges toward another…is in some degree a slave…a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils."


Congress lack the balls/thatchers and Common Sense to do the right thing because they are all about the $$$

American democracy is based on the self evident truth that all people are created equal; all are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights…[and] that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted…and derive their powers from the consent of the governed; and, whenever any form of government becomes unjust and destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people [to rise up and] alter or abolish it.- "The Declaration of Independence"

"Soon after I had published the pamphlet "Common Sense" [on Feb. 14, 1776] in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion... The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."-Tom Paine

ON WITH THE REVOLUTION!



Eileen Fleming, Reporter and Editor
Http://www.wearewideawake.org/
Author "Keep Hope Alive" and "Memoirs of a Nice Irish American 'Girl's' Life in Occupied Territory"
Producer "30 Minutes With Vanunu."

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Being convinced in our consciences that the present un-constitutional actions of the Executive, Legislative & Judicial branches of these United States of America is disastrous to the mental well-being of all America as well as the whole of the world, subversive of our civil and religious freedom, destructive of citizenship, and perilous to the unity of the United States, we people, whose names are underwritten, humbly relying on the Creator whom our forefathers in days of stress and trial confidently trusted, do hereby pledge ourselves in solemn covenant to stand by one another in defending for ourselves and our children, our cherished position of equal citizenship in these United States of America, and in using all means which may be found necessary to defeat the present conspiracy to overrule our Constitution & Bill of Rights in America. In the event of such an action being forced upon us we further solemnly and mutually pledge ourselves to refuse to recognize its authority. In sure confidence that the Creator will defend the right we hereto subscribe our names…

Thomas J Kaminski
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Mr Hightower, why don't we all use that day off to assemble in Washington on the Capitol steps and take turns reading aloud the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights! These days, nothing could be a more radical form of protest than defending the Constitution and using our energy to spread democracy to the United States! Our captive nation badly needs to be liberated, and showing our legislators how much we value the Constitution might shame a few of them.

More effective would be to have people read it aloud in turns all day and night near the Capitol. Nothing more needs to be said. Just keep reading it aloud like Buddhist monks would receit mantras or Christians prayers.

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Yes, Indeed, this is a distinct possibility and I, Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo, have been writing about this possibility since 2003. Check out my columns at www.OpedNews.com
as well as at Bagnolosprophetics.Blogspot.com

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The reason no one in our seemingly spinless congress is doing anything is that they are all bought off. There are no republicans or democrats, only corprocrats who believe they can do as they please and get reelected over and over and over simply because they have big money behind them.
Here is what I suggest if we actually make it to the next election...
RE-ELECT NO ONE IN WASHINGTON!
this would truely get their attention. imagine how confused they would be. our vote is the only power we have over these despicable characters. vote against every one!

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I think there are people standing up in Congress. I think the reason Congress as a whole is allowing this administration to sell-out the Constitution and our democracy isn't because we don't have people speaking out -- Dennis Kucinich and many others are speaking out -- it's that not enough are standing up with them. We have our brave people in office, but the time has past where they could alone turn this tide. We aren't lacking a hero; we're lacking the political will to turn this around. And everytime a progressive asks that question in the media, they reinforce the blackout of Dennis Kucinich and other progressives currently serving in the Congress and the Senate; they reinforce the mistaken notion that there are no progressives out there. Please start acknowledging them; that is what will change the political will and the perception of strength and progressive ideals.

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Boycott! Stop buying as much as you can for as long as you can. Let big capitalists know what you are doing and why you are doing it. That is the ultimate people power in this corporate controlled country.

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The coup is coming -- I believe -- in April. Fresh deployments to Iraq will be arriving, and the previous troops will still be there as well.

An "incident" will happen, possibly related to Iran, and the American people will "need the protection of martial law." Since so much of the military is 6,000 miles away -- the enforcement of martial law will have to be done by Blackwater.

George W. is a genious. He set all this up while he kept us distracted. Maybe we didn't notice because he kept us laughing at how "dumb" he was. Yeah -- like a fox!

So, who would you have voted for in 2008?

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Then patriots like Jim Hightower could be branded as terrorists, because they do not support the Government and its deceitful and lying ways.
Anybody that trusts the government to watch out for them are fools. Whether its your retirement, medicare, national security, etc.
The Government is run by people just like you and me which means they are subject to all the other weaknesses that all of us are. Fraud, thievery, egoism, corruption, not giving a shit in general.
Thats why the founders divided the government into 3 parts and gave the powers not EXPRESSLY given to the government to the STATES. So we would not have this crap going on now with a runaway executive and an ass crazy President that wants to start WW3.

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Since bush took office illegally in 2000, installed by a biased supreme court, doesn't that mean that the coup d'etat happened in 2000? The coup has occurred; it's just that not many people realize it. In 2004, the elections were again fixed. I don't think the coup is coming, I think it happened 7 years ago! Isn't that what illegally taking over a country is? I don't think people are ready to admit it, but I think it's a done deal. The big problem there is, you don't get your country back without a revolution. So, either be prepared to live under a dictatorship or fight.

Of course, to make sure the second choice doesn't happen, there are new weapons to make sure we don't congregate. Anyone else see this story yesterday?

http://tinyurl.com/2p7uy8

This is partly why the bush regime says and does whatever the hell it wants. Remember a couple of months back, when bush AND cheney both said they were above the law? No one did a damn thing then, either.

They know we can't fight back. Between this "pain ray" written about at the above link, and what will become bush's new Praetorian Guard (or Hitler's SS), Blackwater, we are in real trouble, folks. This is what our apathy has bought us. Now we're paying the price for a few cushy decades. We let ourselves be drugged and duped by our gluttony.

In the end, though, it's our gov't that's screwed us over and I truly now believe they were behind 9-11. Watch www.zeitgeistmovie.com and be prepared to have your mind blown.

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The only attack on the Constitution is by some members of Congress! As we struggle to know our domestic enemies. No, matter your political party affiliation, and setting aside your thoughts on issues. We all need to remember what it is to be an American Citizen. We need to make sure our elected representatives obey their Oath of Office and keep their Oath of Allegiance. See http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl Know whom you are voting for.

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How can you have an election after World War Three has destroyed human civilization ???!!!

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I have written a science fiction book called Rock Bound in which a greedy megalomaniac becomes President, trashes the Constitution, disbands Congress and sends his political prisoners to the Moon as slave labor for the Luna Mining Company, which he, of couse, owns. I am looking for a publisher as we speak. A shorter, serialized version was published as a sci-fi/romance a year ago, and at that time a reviewer called it "a cautionary tale of the future."

I fear that future is here. I fear that King George the Bush will find a way to prevent the 2008 elections from taking place and will refuse to relinquish the power he now wields. He's already done quite a good job of ignoring, if not completely trashing the Constitution.

By the way--I've signed enough petitions, written enough blogs and attended enough demonstrations, that I think I am not totally paranoid when I say Hi, NSA! Hope you guys are having a nice day. The next phone call I make will be to my grandkids. Don't you just love how grown-up Presley sounds now?

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I took to heart the above viewpoint and feel we are being managed by a corporation with the current administration. I recently rented the entire TV series JERICHO which was really art imitating life depicting a world in which a corporate run war was run internally by American Corporates attacking Ordinary People who had no clue at all what was going on. I live in a state of fear of what is around the next corner. Nothing is as it seems anymore. Its hard to know who to trust or what to trust.

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"A COUP HAS OCCURRED"

"Let me simplify this and not just to be rhetorical: A coup has occurred. I woke up the other day realizing, coming out of sleep, that a coup has occurred. It’s not just a question that a coup lies ahead with the next 9/11. That’s the next coup, that completes the first"

SOURCE:
By Daniel Ellsberg
September 26, 2007 (Text of a speech delivered September 20, 2007 at an American University symposium -- posted at consortiumnews.com)

Editor’s Note: Daniel Ellsberg, the former Defense Department analyst who leaked the secret Pentagon Papers history of the Vietnam War, offered insights into the looming war with Iran and the loss of liberty in the United States at an American University symposium on Sept. 20.

Below is an edited transcript of Ellsberg’s remarkable speech:

"I think nothing has higher priority than averting an attack on Iran, which I think will be accompanied by a further change in our way of governing here that in effect will convert us into what I would call a police state.

If there’s another 9/11 under this regime … it means that they switch on full extent all the apparatus of a police state that has been patiently constructed, largely secretly at first but eventually leaked out and known and accepted by the Democratic people in Congress, by the Republicans and so forth.

Will there be anything left for NSA to increase its surveillance of us? … They may be to the limit of their technical capability now, or they may not. But if they’re not now they will be after another 9/11.

And I would say after the Iranian retaliation to an American attack on Iran, you will then see an increased attack on Iran – an escalation – which will be also accompanied by a total suppression of dissent in this country, including detention camps.

It’s a little hard for me to distinguish the two contingencies; they could come together. Another 9/11 or an Iranian attack in which Iran’s reaction against Israel, against our shipping, against our troops in Iraq above all, possibly in this country, will justify the full panoply of measures that have been prepared now, legitimized, and to some extent written into law. …

This is an unusual gang, even for Republicans. [But] I think that the successors to this regime are not likely to roll back the assault on the Constitution. They will take advantage of it, they will exploit it.

Will Hillary Clinton as president decide to turn off NSA after the last five years of illegal surveillance? Will she deprive her administration her ability to protect United States citizens from possible terrorism by blinding herself and deafening herself to all that NSA can provide? I don’t think so.

Unless this somehow, by a change in our political climate, of a radical change, unless this gets rolled back in the next year or two before a new administration comes in – and there’s no move to do this at this point – unless that happens I don’t see it happening under the next administration, whether Republican or Democratic.

The Next Coup

Let me simplify this and not just to be rhetorical: A coup has occurred. I woke up the other day realizing, coming out of sleep, that a coup has occurred. It’s not just a question that a coup lies ahead with the next 9/11. That’s the next coup, that completes the first."

Read the rest at consortiumnews.com - and good luck to everyone....

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Looks as if what we have shaping up is The Axis of Tyranny vs. "The Axis of Evil".
And where are the freedom-loving, peace-loving, human life-respecting good guys ( & gals ) in all of this?

They are busy writing posts to AlterNet (482 posts + the article) and being double-scanned at the same time. Once ( or more) by NSA as they scan the email of electronic transmission, and again by ( DARPA? COINTEL? CIA?) they as scan our brains..

Isn’t there something profoundly wrong with this picture folks?

Openly assault the mind assault directed energy technologies that these governments are using in support of their tyranny.
Click http://360.yahoo.com/etisoppa

then click “View blog" then click on square where the picture is to be and the Mind Assault System photo will appear. Then read and the entry
"The Physics behind The MC System" at the same blog.

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Lot's of people have been fretting about the weakness of the Dem leadership for their failure to hold the Repub leadership accountable. Maybe this was never a failure, but a cooperative effort based on the same plan. On any issue of importance, the Dems "cave". Cave? I think "cooperate" would be more accurate. There might be some token opposition, but the "no" votes are kept low enough not to interfere with the Bush/Cheney agenda.

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