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Project Vote Report Accuses GOP of Decades of Voter Suppression
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Sep 27, 2007 12:58 AM
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Until the progressives and moderates get their head out of their backsides we will continue to have this discussion and will continue to see stuff like this posted.
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» NoPCZone hits the nail on the head
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 27, 2007 1:05 AM
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An election is easy to steal only if the margin of victory is as razor close as it was in the years 2000 and 2004. We've got to make sure that 2008 is a landslide. That's not going to happen if the Democrats are stupid enough to nominate Hillary Clinton.
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan
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» RE: A special place in hell....
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Posted by: willymack on Sep 27, 2007 4:15 AM
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» RE: You know what's so bad about this?
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Posted by: rocketman on Sep 27, 2007 5:45 AM
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» By "extent of Democratic padding" do you mean that it has ever happened?
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» RE: By "extent of Democratic padding" do you mean that it has ever happened?
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» RE: The power of padding
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» RE: The power of padding
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» RE: The power of padding
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Posted by: Bart Thesc on Sep 27, 2007 6:42 AM
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» RE: I am quite mixed on this issue.
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» Yeah, but....
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Posted by: DrSuess on Sep 27, 2007 7:17 AM
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What the Republicans don’t seem to be aware of is that Bush’s actions are changing the traditional makeup of the Republican party. For most of my life- the Republican party was made up of the wealthy and the middle class. These two groups had similar enough goals that they worked together to form a “business/traditionalists” party. What Bush is doing is reaching out to the born again Christians. That is a laudable goal- that will bring large numbers of the working poor into the Republican party. What the press fails to tell people is that the bulk of born again Christians are the working poor. Bush’s idea is to make an unshakable majority. What a combination this would be- the rich, the middle class- and the poor, all together in one unified party.
Unfortunately, there is one slight snag for Bush- he is annoying the middle class. This is more than a little snag- it is a massive transformational snag. By reaching out to the born again Christians (working poor), the Republicans have launched a group of Presidential candidates that I as a former middle class Republican cannot even think of voting for.
The press has completely hidden the fact that the Republican party is not even remotely addressing the needs and desires of the middle class.
The Republican are trying to remove the ‘poor’ from the election equation to further weaken the Democrats. They will almost certainly succeed in disenfranchising the poor. But this is not necessarily a defeat for the Democrats. First- it is Bush who is trying to woo the working poor- not the Democrats.
If the Democrats are smart- they will use this opportunity to take the middle class away from the Republicans. The middle class began to swing in the last election. Bush had succeeded in preventing poor voters from voting. It was a change in suburbia that gave the Democrats their majority. If the Democrats succeed in capturing the middle class, the election politics of America will change for a generation.
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Posted by: krayeski on Sep 27, 2007 7:39 AM
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What issue could be more important to equality than the fair and equal voice in elections. Why are there not protests by various community and religous leaders demanding that type of fairness?
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Posted by: Jbuuty on Sep 27, 2007 9:06 AM
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I have my sincere doubts about the extent of this, however other than a few liberals saying this is minimal, I've seen no serious reports, or evidence, that could refute this accusation. Does anyone know of a such a report? Especially, one that might be available online.
Thank you
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» RE: A real question
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» Links to reports on voter fraud
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» Thank you
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Posted by: chaoslegs on Sep 27, 2007 9:16 AM
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On the voter fraud issue, former NM District Attorney David C. Iglesias couldn't go forward with allegations and he got fired. Damn them law-abiding Republicans, they are getting purged just as much as a African American voter in 2000 in Florida is.
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Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Sep 27, 2007 9:31 AM
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If it weren't for the Republicans, Racism might be dead in America..
Go see Brasscheck TV: The Mechanics of Voter Fraud..
With Robert Kennedy Jr.
It shows the links between Rove and the attorney firings were about voter fraud..and Rove may face criminal prosecution except I think Bush's choice of the new AG came with guarantees not to prosecute Rove...
The BBC got some of those missing Emails that detail this by creating a web site G.W. Bush.org..
Brasscheck TV Mechanics of Voter Fraud..
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» RE: ove and the Federal Attorney firings were connected to all this..!
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Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Sep 27, 2007 9:50 AM
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http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/162.html
Please watch this Google it, if there is no live link..!
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Posted by: ACORN on Sep 27, 2007 9:55 AM
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So it's no surprise that oft-repeated falsehoods about ACORN's successful voter registration drives would come from Heather Heidelbaugh of the Republican National Lawyers Association, an organization which since 2000 has gone out of its way to suppress the civic participation of low-income and minority voters, deploying armies of Republican lawyers to minority voting precincts in key states to intimidate and challenge voters.
Contrary to Ms. Heidelbaugh’s statement, ACORN has never been indicted for voter fraud, election fraud or anything else. A handful of prosecutions have come against fired employees – who were often identified through ACORN’s quality control program and in many cases referred by ACORN to law enforcement officials – who were caught trying to submit fake applications to pad their hours and defraud ACORN out of extra wages. In none of these cases has there been any indication of an attempt to influence voter rolls or the outcome of elections, or to encourage anyone to vote improperly. Prosecutors in some of these cases have told reporters and even the Congress that ACORN cooperated in their investigations and, in fact, was victimized by its own employees.
As much as the RNLA would like to foment fears of vast voter fraud to justify its program of voter intimidation, the facts are the facts. Barnard College professor Lorraine Minnite’s definitive 2007 study of voter fraud found that only 24 people were convicted of illegal voting between 2002 and 2005 (out of at least 203 million votes cast in federal elections alone) and that none was connected to a voter registration drive.
ACORN community leaders work hard to encourage American citizens to exercise their right to vote; Heidelbaugh and the RNLA spread disinformation to justify the discreditable practice of putting barriers in their way.
Maude Hurd
ACORN National President
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» RE: ACORN has never been indicted for voter fraud or anything else
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» RE: ACORN has never been indicted for voter fraud or anything else
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Posted by: whealeydj on Sep 27, 2007 1:30 PM
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Posted by: weirdone on Sep 27, 2007 6:42 PM
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As for all the registration hullaballoo--here in Canada, we do most of our voter registration with a checkbox on our income-tax forms. Just try and find someone who fills those out twice!
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Posted by: Roverton on Sep 28, 2007 8:32 AM
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It requires every manner of deception, from "Caging" voters to crooked, "Fake-Weaklings" in the opposition party.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Sep 27, 2007 12:58 AM
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Until the progressives and moderates get their head out of their backsides we will continue to have this discussion and will continue to see stuff like this posted.
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» NoPCZone hits the nail on the head
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 27, 2007 1:05 AM
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An election is easy to steal only if the margin of victory is as razor close as it was in the years 2000 and 2004. We've got to make sure that 2008 is a landslide. That's not going to happen if the Democrats are stupid enough to nominate Hillary Clinton.
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan
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» RE: A special place in hell....
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Posted by: willymack on Sep 27, 2007 4:15 AM
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Posted by: rocketman on Sep 27, 2007 5:45 AM
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» By "extent of Democratic padding" do you mean that it has ever happened?
Posted by: KeepsonTickn
» RE: By "extent of Democratic padding" do you mean that it has ever happened?
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» RE: The power of padding
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» RE: The power of padding
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» RE: The power of padding
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» RE: The power of padding
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Posted by: Bart Thesc on Sep 27, 2007 6:42 AM
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» Yeah, but....
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» RE: Yeah, but....
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Posted by: DrSuess on Sep 27, 2007 7:17 AM
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What the Republicans don’t seem to be aware of is that Bush’s actions are changing the traditional makeup of the Republican party. For most of my life- the Republican party was made up of the wealthy and the middle class. These two groups had similar enough goals that they worked together to form a “business/traditionalists” party. What Bush is doing is reaching out to the born again Christians. That is a laudable goal- that will bring large numbers of the working poor into the Republican party. What the press fails to tell people is that the bulk of born again Christians are the working poor. Bush’s idea is to make an unshakable majority. What a combination this would be- the rich, the middle class- and the poor, all together in one unified party.
Unfortunately, there is one slight snag for Bush- he is annoying the middle class. This is more than a little snag- it is a massive transformational snag. By reaching out to the born again Christians (working poor), the Republicans have launched a group of Presidential candidates that I as a former middle class Republican cannot even think of voting for.
The press has completely hidden the fact that the Republican party is not even remotely addressing the needs and desires of the middle class.
The Republican are trying to remove the ‘poor’ from the election equation to further weaken the Democrats. They will almost certainly succeed in disenfranchising the poor. But this is not necessarily a defeat for the Democrats. First- it is Bush who is trying to woo the working poor- not the Democrats.
If the Democrats are smart- they will use this opportunity to take the middle class away from the Republicans. The middle class began to swing in the last election. Bush had succeeded in preventing poor voters from voting. It was a change in suburbia that gave the Democrats their majority. If the Democrats succeed in capturing the middle class, the election politics of America will change for a generation.
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Posted by: krayeski on Sep 27, 2007 7:39 AM
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What issue could be more important to equality than the fair and equal voice in elections. Why are there not protests by various community and religous leaders demanding that type of fairness?
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Posted by: Jbuuty on Sep 27, 2007 9:06 AM
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I have my sincere doubts about the extent of this, however other than a few liberals saying this is minimal, I've seen no serious reports, or evidence, that could refute this accusation. Does anyone know of a such a report? Especially, one that might be available online.
Thank you
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» RE: A real question
Posted by: nathanhj1970
» Links to reports on voter fraud
Posted by: srosenfeld
» Thank you
Posted by: Jbuuty
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Posted by: chaoslegs on Sep 27, 2007 9:16 AM
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On the voter fraud issue, former NM District Attorney David C. Iglesias couldn't go forward with allegations and he got fired. Damn them law-abiding Republicans, they are getting purged just as much as a African American voter in 2000 in Florida is.
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Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Sep 27, 2007 9:31 AM
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If it weren't for the Republicans, Racism might be dead in America..
Go see Brasscheck TV: The Mechanics of Voter Fraud..
With Robert Kennedy Jr.
It shows the links between Rove and the attorney firings were about voter fraud..and Rove may face criminal prosecution except I think Bush's choice of the new AG came with guarantees not to prosecute Rove...
The BBC got some of those missing Emails that detail this by creating a web site G.W. Bush.org..
Brasscheck TV Mechanics of Voter Fraud..
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» RE: ove and the Federal Attorney firings were connected to all this..!
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Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Sep 27, 2007 9:50 AM
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http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/162.html
Please watch this Google it, if there is no live link..!
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Posted by: ACORN on Sep 27, 2007 9:55 AM
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So it's no surprise that oft-repeated falsehoods about ACORN's successful voter registration drives would come from Heather Heidelbaugh of the Republican National Lawyers Association, an organization which since 2000 has gone out of its way to suppress the civic participation of low-income and minority voters, deploying armies of Republican lawyers to minority voting precincts in key states to intimidate and challenge voters.
Contrary to Ms. Heidelbaugh’s statement, ACORN has never been indicted for voter fraud, election fraud or anything else. A handful of prosecutions have come against fired employees – who were often identified through ACORN’s quality control program and in many cases referred by ACORN to law enforcement officials – who were caught trying to submit fake applications to pad their hours and defraud ACORN out of extra wages. In none of these cases has there been any indication of an attempt to influence voter rolls or the outcome of elections, or to encourage anyone to vote improperly. Prosecutors in some of these cases have told reporters and even the Congress that ACORN cooperated in their investigations and, in fact, was victimized by its own employees.
As much as the RNLA would like to foment fears of vast voter fraud to justify its program of voter intimidation, the facts are the facts. Barnard College professor Lorraine Minnite’s definitive 2007 study of voter fraud found that only 24 people were convicted of illegal voting between 2002 and 2005 (out of at least 203 million votes cast in federal elections alone) and that none was connected to a voter registration drive.
ACORN community leaders work hard to encourage American citizens to exercise their right to vote; Heidelbaugh and the RNLA spread disinformation to justify the discreditable practice of putting barriers in their way.
Maude Hurd
ACORN National President
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» RE: ACORN has never been indicted for voter fraud or anything else
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» RE: ACORN has never been indicted for voter fraud or anything else
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Posted by: whealeydj on Sep 27, 2007 1:30 PM
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Posted by: weirdone on Sep 27, 2007 6:42 PM
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As for all the registration hullaballoo--here in Canada, we do most of our voter registration with a checkbox on our income-tax forms. Just try and find someone who fills those out twice!
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Posted by: Roverton on Sep 28, 2007 8:32 AM
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It requires every manner of deception, from "Caging" voters to crooked, "Fake-Weaklings" in the opposition party.
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