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Jena Six Case Shows Black Teens Get Short End of Stick

It is time we examine why a black teen is six times more likely to be tried and sentenced to prison than a young white, even when the crimes are similar.
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Editor's note: When a Louisiana judge locked up six black teens in the Jena case an investigative team cried foul. On Sept. 14, an appeals court vacated the remaining conviction for second degree battery against one of the accused, saying the charges should have been brought in juvenile court.

Four years before an indifferent, drowsy press and public finally fumed at the news that a prosecutor and judge tossed the book at six black teens in a small Louisiana town for beating up a white teen following a racially charged incident, a Louisiana legislative investigating team sternly warned that the state's juvenile justice system was horribly mangled.

It found that the state couldn't lock up juveniles fast enough for mostly non-violent crimes. The team noted that the sentences slapped on them were wildly out of proportion to their crimes, and that the kids had almost no access to counseling, job and skills training, and family support programs that could ensure that they didn't wind up back in the slammer.

Though alternative sentencing programs are far more cost effective than jailing, they are scarce and under-funded, and Louisiana officials have resisted calls to increase funding and resources to boost these programs.

The investigators also found unsurprisingly that black teens were hit with far stiffer sentences than white teens for the same crimes. It made no difference whether the whites had a prior history of criminal or bad behavior and the black teens were altar boys and had a squeaky clean record. The blacks still got harsher sentences. Countless studies show that a black teen is six times more likely to be tried and sentenced to prison than a young white, even when the crimes are similar, or even less severe than those committed by white teens.

Nationally, blacks make up 40 percent of youths tried in adult courts and nearly 60 percent of those sentenced to state prisons.

In Jena, the prosecutor, mostly because of the public furor over the case, reduced charges against two of the youth. But that's an exception. Prosecutors nearly always push for hard time for offenders. This is infuriatingly apparent in Jena. One of the defendants, a star football player, was convicted on a reduced battery charge. Yet, he still could get a 15-year prison sentence.

The investigators implored the legislature to do something to correct the problem. They came up with a series of reform recommendations. They were largely ignored and four years later, state legislators have shown little inclination to fully enact the juvenile justice reforms.

Louisiana legislators haven't turned a tin ear to screams for reform solely out of ignorance, inertia, or fear of a public backlash. The legislators read and watch the same relentless stream of newspaper and television reports of drive-by shootings, drug shootouts, and gang wars, most of them involving young blacks. This confirms the terrified feeling that many Americans have that young people - especially young black males - are out of control.

They are convinced that teen violence has spawned a new class of youthful "super predators" and that the juvenile justice system is far too easy on them.

The notion that juveniles are running wild though is a myth.

According to recent FBI crime figures, the rates for murder and assault among teenagers have plummeted since 1993, even among black teens.

Yet politicians have overreacted badly to the public panic. In the past decade, more than 30 states have loosened, if not eliminated, laws requiring juveniles be tried and sentenced in juvenile courts.

The criminal justice system's harsh treatment of young blacks, like the Jena teens, fuels the suspicion of many blacks that judges, prosecutors and probation officers bend way over backwards to give young white offenders the benefit of the doubt and are far less willing to label and treat them as dangerous habitual offenders, even when they commit violent crimes.

One study of the attitudes of probation officers toward black and white teen offenders found that they were far more likely to attribute black juvenile crimes to such family or character flaws as chronic disrespect toward authority and to brand them as inherent troublemakers.

They were more likely to blame white bad behavior on conditions outside their control such as hanging out with the wrong crowd, or to troubling family conflicts. Judges and prosecutors read the probation reports and heed their recommendations and if they are favorable, as they are more often than not with young whites, judges are much more inclined to approve alternative sentencing or treatment programs for them. An unfavorable report is just as likely to result in hard time in juvenile or adult jails.

The outrage over the Jena case will probably force town prosecutors to edge away a little more from the harsh charges against the teens, but only a little. They, like prosecutors everywhere, are convinced that black teens are habitual lawbreakers and that the public clamors for them to heave the book at them. And that's exactly what they routinely do in daily courts throughout the country.

It's business as usual for black teen offenders and Jena won't change that. And that's an even bigger tragedy.
Earl Ofari Hutchinson is an author and political analyst. His new book The Latino Challenge to Black America: Towards a Conversation between African-Americans and Hispanics (Middle Passage Press and Hispanic Economics New York) in English and Spanish will be out in October.
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Good piece, Mr. Hutchinson
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Posted by: nc green on Sep 18, 2007 5:14 AM   
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Glad to see you back in stride after the recent Fonda fumble.

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Super-Predator Theory has been discredited...and
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Posted by: jimmie on Sep 18, 2007 5:20 AM   
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the author John DiIulio has since back away from it. However the laws that were created using the theory as an underpinniing are still in place.

Give to the Jena Six Legal Defense Fund and let's fight this one in the courts as well. And then to the congress...

Jimmie Hicks
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Same thing in VA Beach where drunk drivers are pardoned
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Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 18, 2007 6:49 AM   
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Everyday at least a couple of drunk drivers are "pardoned" and freed from jail even while non-violent offenders get longer sentencing and very slim chance at parole. The irony is that non-white non-violent offenders get at least the same jail time as white and/or violent offenders. Talk about a fucked about injustice system.

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Jena was a hate crime.
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Posted by: johnshadows on Sep 18, 2007 7:53 AM   
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These kids, mad about some noose that had been hung from a tree, all jumped a white kid. I don't care what your background is, what emotional injuries you've suffered, you do not have the right to take your racial grievances out on others in the form of violence. If, in general, black teens are treated differently by the justice system, then that should be fixed. But this case had the makings of a lynching in a public school, and the offenders should be prosecuted to the fullest extent, to send the message that we're not going to put up with that kind of thing. Nobody cried when the Texas rednecks who dragged James Byrd got sentenced to death. And I'm not crying when a group of thugs gets locked up for a gang-attack on one person.

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Racisim is here to stay....
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Posted by: eosrk on Sep 18, 2007 8:02 AM   
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period!

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Why dosen't Jesse, Sharpton, NAACP, and the rest...
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Posted by: eosrk on Sep 18, 2007 8:04 AM   
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go after these private prison contractors whom are making a killing off us on Wall street........

Nothing there, just a wind of hot air......as usual!

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My 'favorite' part
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Posted by: Colton on Sep 18, 2007 9:37 AM   
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of the whole Jena 6 debacle was the white youth that threatened several black youths with a shotgun in a public parking lot, the black youths took the gun away and the cops charged them with Felony Theft ~ of the shotgun.

The white youth was never charged with anything.

The whole idea of "Adult aggravated battery" on someone where the lethal weapon is the "tennis shoes" they are wearing... the kid was sucker punched, fell, hit his head and was knocked unconscious, got up and laughed it off; and they get 15 years in adult prison?

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66word
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Posted by: cyit on Sep 18, 2007 11:06 AM   
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It's difficult to know precisely what happened in this particular case, and so it is also difficult to judge the particulars accurately.

However, this piece raises interesting questions.
1. Are black and latino youth more trouble prone than others?
2. Is the criminal justice system properly dealing with them?

As an inner city teacher, minister, and African American observer who has also worked with juvenile detention populations, my answer is yes to the first question. There is no doubt that black and latino youth are over represented as problem students and juvenile offenders far in excess of their percentage of the population. This is a problem.

However, the lock them up, self righteous zeal and fear of a criminal justice system dominated by whites is also a problem. We in the black community have been saying since the Regan era that merely locking up mostly black and latino males for mostly drug crimes does far more harm than good.

Certainly, trouble prone youth must be dealt with and severely. But let's apply justice with an eye toward what these teenagers will be like when they get out of adult jails. Its easy to lock them up and forget about them. Unfortunately, you will see them and feel them over and over again as they live out trouble prone life times.

Wouldn't it cost less in time and money to find out why black and latino youth are failing (by the way it goes beyond poverty)?

In a society where issues of race and class are severely clouded by our history, we must never the less work harder at getting to the root of this issue, rather than feeling smug because a young wanna be felon is off the streets,...for a minute.

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what really happened Part 1
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Posted by: EasterBunny on Sep 18, 2007 12:41 PM   
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as usual the media gets it all wrong. a Jena pastor sets the record straight:

http://www.authorsden.com/categories/article_top.asp?
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àThere has never been an “all white tree” at Jena High School. Although whites traditionally sit under that tree, whites and blacks traditionally sit in other areas as well. Since integration, there has never been forced segregation on the campus.


àThere were two nooses, not three.


àThe actions of the three white students who hung the nooses demonstrate prejudice and bigotry. However, they were not just given “two days suspension” as reported by national news agencies. After first being expelled, then upon appeal, being allowed to re-enter the school system, they were sent to an alternative school, off-campus, for an extended period of time. They underwent investigations by Federal and Sate authorities. They were given psychological evaluations. Even when they were eventually allowed back on campus they were not allowed to be a part of the general population for weeks.


àNo black children demonstrated the day after the noose incident, as reported by CNN. Therefore, Reed Walters did not come to the school to break it up and send the black students back to class, stating that he could “end their life with a stroke of the pen.” In fact, to this day, there has been no demonstration by the black population of Jena, neither at school or anyplace else, except for the family of the Jena Six and protesters from other cities.


àThe speech given by Reed Walters that included the now infamous statement “I can end your life with the stroke of a pen” was not given to a group of black students. It was given during a speech to the entire student body in an assembly called to calm a community that was pulling their children out of school because of the attack on Justin Barker.


àJena does have racial problems. Jena does have bigotry and prejudice, just like every other town in America, perhaps even worse than some. If there were no racial problems, there would have been no nooses hung from a tree. There would not be one white student beaten and six black students charged with attempted second-degree murder. The local ministers would not have hurriedly called a meeting to deal with the issue. The cameras of the world would not have focused their lenses on Jena.


àThe national news media has not mentioned a single time that there was an FBI investigation into the hanging of the nooses and the conduct of Reed Walters that concluded there was no criminal activity or “hate crime” involved. The report is available to the media, along with court records and sworn testimony, none of which has been reported.


àThere was no “fight” on December 4, 2006 at Jena High School, as the national media continues to characterize the event in question. Six students attacked a single student who was immediately knocked unconscious. According to sworn testimony, they stomped him, as he lay “lifeless” upon the ground.



àJustin Barker, the white student attacked, was not the first white student targeted by these black students. Others had been informed they were going to be beaten, but stayed away from school and out of sight until they felt safe.


àCNN reported that there were “obviously no witnesses to the fight.” In fact, over thirty eyewitnesses, students and teachers, were questioned immediately following the attack, all of who implicated one or more of the black students arrested in the case. In fact, some of the accused black students did not stop stomping Barker until they were pulled away from him by some of the teachers, according to testimony given in the trial of Mychal Bell.

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Another Fact-Free, Politically Correct Article
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Posted by: bcgirl125 on Sep 18, 2007 1:12 PM   
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To read the REAL story of what happened in Jena, not the politically correct whining that has tried to pass itself off as journalism on this forum up to now, check out the comments by Easterbunny. Now why can't Alternet post articles like that?

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Protecting young black men
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Posted by: Lesha on Sep 18, 2007 1:51 PM   
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As a people we should not expose our children to such an evil environment where they are not equipped with the knowledge of how to handle the race baiting, trouble making tactics of young white teenagers. As parents we must understand that our young black men are in danger and white America will look for any excuse to lock them up and throw away the key.


This case involving the six teens from Louisiana was a classic case of white people creating the problem to get blacks to react, and then play the victim to gain sympathy from among their peers (their people) knowing full well they are the real trouble makers (classic devils). When blacks and whites wither it be as children, teenagers or grown ups hang around each-other, you best believe their will be trouble (especially for blacks).

Young black men today do not have the discipline nor the knowledge of how to properly react to the insults or jesters some whites will make and often will take actions that will get them in trouble as in the Louisiana six case.

As long as we as a people allow our children to unnecessarily interact with whites when they don't have to, these types of incidents will occur and our young men (black men) will more often than not get the short end of the stick.

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in Northern California, it's the Hispanic Kids (Mexicans mostly)
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Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Sep 18, 2007 9:18 PM   
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in Northern California, it's the Hispanic Kids (Mexicans mostly) locked up in Juvenile Halls.

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Duh! This country is racist, so what else is new?
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Posted by: Shalimarali on Sep 19, 2007 3:04 PM   
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Why is this so shocking? The fact this country is still racist 200 years of slavery. Hundreds of years of slavery of black people will not change the way people act overnight. It took hundreds of years of white oppression, and saying that blacks are 3/4 human, and then whipping, lynching, raping and enslaving blacks to build this country for no pay. The law changed slavery, but not the hearts and minds of those who passed down generations of unjust treatment of blacks. And by the way, racism is so STUPID and mentally retarded. The act of treating another HUMAN BEING like a dog based on skin pigmentation is the most retarded way of thinking in the history of the whole world! It takes are real retard or someone who is MENTALLY ILL/SICK to treat another human being like a dog, just because of their DNA/skin pigmentation. How sick can you get? And the beat goes on. The Jena 6 does not surprise me after after hundreds of years of Jim Crow, lynching, racism & segregation of blacks in this country -- in fact it is to be expected from ignorant retards.

The root problem of racism is that slavery has been swept under a rug. Slavery needs to be addressed and settled, so this country can move on to healing. Imagine a situation where an abusive husband beats, hangs and rapes his wife for decades. Did he ever apologize? Does she forgive him? Does she ever complain about the abuse? Did the abusive relationship ever reach CLOSURE??? This same analogy can be uesd with the relationship between blacks and whites in this country. For hundreds of years white people have been like an abusive, murderous husband to black people, thus making black people their BITCH. Did black people complain about the abuse? YES! Did white people apologize for the abuse? NO! Did the strained relationship between black & white people post-slavery, post-lynching, post-Jim Crow ever heal and reach closure? NO!!!!!

The lack of an apology and closure for slavery is the reason why their has not been any healing from slavery. And thus racism continues on and on because slavery has been ignored & swept under a rug, thus racism continues to flourish.

So, Duh -- another racist event in this country. I'm not surprised, in fact I expected it and more of the same and more until slavery has been property forgiven and closure.

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The usual suspects always rear their imbred heads
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Posted by: Kym525 on Sep 19, 2007 3:38 PM   
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when instances of miscarriages of justice occur between blacks and whites, especially in the South. The sad fact of the matter is that the entire Jena 6 incident could have been avoided had the good 'ol boy white establishment put aside their pointed sheets and served the common good.

We always have the "poor downtrodden and misunderstood" white fella who claims he's all for equality then proceeds to lace his posts full of distortions and thinly veiled epithets. In this case, we have someone pointing out that one of the Jena 6 defendants, Mychal Bell has a juvenile record, as if that makes the harsh sentencing against him perfectly understandable. There's also another poster who somehow minimizes the fact that a white boy pulled a shotgun on several black youths and was not charged, whereas the young black kid who grabbed the gun WAS charged. This piece of work says that because the gun was unloaded, there's no harm no foul.

Sometimes I think white folks like this enjoy keeping racism alive because it gives meaning to their otherwise dull and meaningless lives.

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ARE WE REALLY SURPRISED? COME ON, REALLY....
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Posted by: thetruth07 on Sep 19, 2007 6:12 PM   
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In a country where it is white majority ruled, come on people. Is it really a surprise that a white man with a record can get a job over a black man without a record and education?
And if you watch TV the most valuable person is a white female, especially if she's missing.
In this country all black people are guilty even if they're innocent. That's just the way it is......

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RACIAL FEAR
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Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Sep 19, 2007 8:19 PM   
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The White people of Jena are terrified of the growing Black population, so they panic and look for anything to intimidate them, nooses dangling from trees and railroading a Black teenager to years in prison for a highschool fist fight.

Instead, they might welcome family planning clinics to keep the whole Jena population, Whites and Blacks together within the ability of the area to supply them with jobs and a future.

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We're trying to bring Democracy to Iraq???
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Posted by: Schroeder on Sep 19, 2007 8:36 PM   
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Editor's note: When a Louisiana judge locked up six black teens in the Jena case an investigative team cried foul. On Sept. 14, an appeals court vacated the remaining conviction for second degree battery against one of the accused, saying the charges should have been brought in juvenile court.

I think Barack Obama and every other black leader should be taking every opportunity to give voice for those six black teens. I've watched this story on Democracy Now and seen the young people interviewed. The prosecutor who said that he had the power to end their lives with the stroke of a pen should never be allowed to practice law again. There is so much broken in our society, we have no business whatsoever trying to fix anyone else.

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I wonder where will the kkk will be on 9/20/07?
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Posted by: mobile68 on Sep 19, 2007 10:29 PM   
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Hmmmm.... let's see, maybe down in Jena, La to counterprotest?
It would be funny to see them come out in full force on this agenda.

-Not hatin' on the illegal immigrants by any means, but where was the kkk protesting at their 500k strong rally here in chicago and in l.a.?
-Let's see if the kkk going to protest their gov't when all the banks are about to collaspe and take all of their funds because of this debt and mortage mess.
-Why the kkk aren't hating on the jews anymore? Hmmmm....

Also, the blacks that are living down there are going to be harassed to no ends once this march is over with and something need to be put in place to ensure their safety. Any suggestions? Rational thinkers only. Thank you.

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bring out the clowns!
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Posted by: EasterBunny on Sep 20, 2007 7:00 AM   
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LMAO! all the usual racist clowns are out here calling me all sorts of names including psychopath(!) because i've tried to shed some light on what ACTUALLY happened in Jena. it doesn't fit the neat little morality tale of white perpetrators and innocent black victims, so the emotional and biased reaction sets in. sorry, it's the truth. deal with it. the Jena 6 are gulity of assault, they deserve to be punished. it's not jim crow, it's not an injustice. IT'S THE LAW! if me and my friends stomped on someone as they lay bleeding and unconscious i would EXPECT to be arrested. wouldn't you?

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Should have never happen
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Posted by: larry123 on Sep 20, 2007 8:02 AM   
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What do you expect when three white teens place ropes on a tree,and one white teen calls black teens niggers to there face.This is 2007 and no one is going to sit and let racial biggets do what there parents and there parents before them did.

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The things people rationalize
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Posted by: anonymous black writer on Sep 20, 2007 8:02 AM   
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Also, like you Enigma, I don't believe the punishment fit the crime either. However, I am not surprised they got them. But even this being the case forty freakin' years? These black boys did NOT commit a hate crime no matter how people try to dice it. You, I, and some sensible posters including whites-judging by the posts of some white people on other sites concerning the Jena 6 see it this way. Violence was Not initiated by black people. Several white people prior to this incident jumped a black boy and no jail time came for them prior to this. We all know if jail time was to come for them, it would not have been 40 years. If it went down for this for these white kids, what justify those black kids getting 40 years if any time at all? I could understand punishment but four decades!!! DJ7128-my sentiments as well. Excuse my potential mistakes in prior posts.

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a prohibited truth
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Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Sep 20, 2007 8:56 AM   
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Isn't it curious that no one wants to talk about the actual source of racial tension in Jena and elsewhere around the nation - the growth of competing populations. Yet, isn't it obvious that White people in Jena are terrified of the growth of their Black population because it means they will eventually become a majority and take over the government?! OOH ( ! ) But because White people so often panic and act irrationally, their fears actually come true, as in several cities around the USA where Blacks are indeed a majority and elected officials are as often Black as White, which solves nothing as the general population continues to grow and joblessness and crime along with it.

So, instead of always playing racial politics, wouldn't it be wiser to welcome a family planning clinic to Jena where both White and Black women can plan their families according to the availability of education and jobs in the area and beyond? And wouldn't that be a smart thing to do across the USA? When every child is guaranteed a job and a decent future, both White and Black parents can live in peace.

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Posted by: aumfish on Sep 20, 2007 9:05 AM   
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Adolescent pack mentality, low self-esteem,inadequate conflict resolution skills fueled by testosterone provide a formula for violence. If someone needs to hurt someone, a perception of "otherness" is a great excuse. We humans demonstrate that perceptual distortion individually and collectively, in our propaganda machines and our personal rationalizations for inhumane behavior. This event could be an important teachable moment for us as well as those wounded youths.

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Jena=OJ=Vick=Long Beach
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Posted by: EasterBunny on Sep 20, 2007 9:18 AM   
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this is another case where some blacks completely lose sight of truth and reason and morality and go off the deep end. now a vicious 6 on 1 assault is supposed to be okay because it was a white victim. sorry, it's never right. they need to be punished. i haven't heard a single word of support or compassion for the beating victim from anyone on this thread. hey he's not black, so it doesn't count. just like Vick's dogs, or OJ's wife or poor Ron Goldman. or those girls almost beaten to death in Long Beach CA. You should at least PRETEND to care about the victims, it'll make you look like a decent human being. i always side with the victims in this case and all others. break the law, you get punished. no special treatment for anyone. that's how it should be.

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Can any white person please explain and justify
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your people's hate of black people?
What has black people as a group has ever done to your people as a group?
It seems that all you white people know about black people is to hate them.

Black people did not lie to the American people about going to war with Iraq.
Black people did not invade europe and enslaved your people and stole and STEALING your natural resources
Black people did not ship all the jobs overseas to further exploit other peoples of color
Black people are not replacing legal u.s. workers with imported illegal citizens for the few jobs that are left here in the u.s.
Black people are not responsible for emerging mortage and credit that's about to explode in 1929 fashion
Black people did not invent weapons so powerful that will wipe out the earth with the push of a button
Black people did not destroy the enviroment to the point of near extinction of all living beings
Black people did not squander billions of dollars of the working american 401k and pension funds

So white people, please justify your hate of black people so that maybe I can understand your way of thinking and rationalizing. Until then white people, based on history, should be the ones who are viewed with suspicion and comtempt.

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some words of wisdom
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Commentary: The Jena Six Case, Part Two: White Racism Enrages Us More than Our Own Fratricide

By: Gregory Kane

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So, why did I hesitate to write about the case of the Jena Six?

For two reasons, mainly: One is the case of the West Palm Beach Two, who don’t seem to warrant any attention from black folks. When it comes to mistreating black people, the skin color of the mistreaters makes all the difference with us.

The Jena Six are African-American teenage boys in Louisiana who were charged with attempted murder...

Mychal Bell, one of the Jena Six, is the only one who’s been tried so far. His charges were reduced to aggravated battery, and he was found guilty in June. But what else happened in June?

At a predominantly black housing project called Dunbar Village in West Palm Beach, Florida, 10 black teens repeatedly raped a Haitian immigrant woman before forcing her to perform oral sex on her 12-year-old son. Why doesn’t what happened to the West Palm Beach Two outrage the good reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton just as much as what happened in Jena, Louisiana?


It was our silence about what happened to that poor woman and her son that made me hesitate to write about the Jena Six. That, and the body count.

You know which body count I’m talking about. In Baltimore, as of the time I’m writing this, that body count has reached 215. Last year, Philadelphia’s body count was over 400.

Over 400 murdered in Philadelphia in 2006 and 215 in Baltimore this year. And let’s not forget who most of the victims are: Young black men, just like the Jena Six.

The case of the Jena Six has inspired some black folks to let out a war whoop as they sally forth to slay yet another dragon of white racism. But those black folks who think that white racism is the only problem we face in 2007, or even the main one, are deluding themselves.

In fact, our obsession with white racism, and with a criminal justice system that we insist is rife with white racism and institutional racism, may contribute to that body count. Here’s how.

I can’t speak for other cities, but in Baltimore our body count gets so high because jurors in this town repeatedly cut loose young black men accused of violent crimes. In Baltimore -- Bodymore, Murderland, the criminals call it -- the typical homicide victim is a young black man with a criminal record. Homicide suspects have the same profile.

I’ve had people in a position to know tell me that, more frequently than is ever reported, Baltimore jurors have cut loose young black men with lengthy criminal records who have been accused of either murder or another violent crime. It is our insistence that white racism is pervasive and that the criminal justice system is rife with racism that may inspire some jurors to send these young black men back out on the streets, where they commit more murders.

“Baltimore’s circuit courts are a conviction-free zone,” a source who wants to remain anonymous once told me.

So, yes, we should protest -- and protest vigorously -- whenever cases like that of the Jena Six come along. But our lips should not be sealed shut when a black woman is raped and forced to perform oral sex on her 12-year-old son.

That body count of young black men murdered should outrage us every bit as much as what’s happened to the Jena Six. A young black man murdering another young black man and then walking out of court scot-free is just as much an injustice as six young black men being railroaded by the Louisiana criminal justice system.

“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere,” Martin Luther King Jr. once said.

he might have added that injustice doesn’t come only in the color white

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What EB and his ilk didn't bother to read
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If Conservatives Don’t Weigh in On the Jena Six Injustice, We’ll Continue to Lose Black Support
Date: Thursday, September 13, 2007
By: Joseph C. Phillips, BlackAmericaWeb.com

How do conservatives break the democratic hold on the black vote? It is a question I am asked all the time. My answer -- my best guess -- is always the same and it is twofold.

First, conservatives in the form of the Republican Party must be more actively present in the black community. Because the black vote tends to be so overwhelmingly Democratic, Republican candidates tend to ignore black communities, offering a token presence at best. It is essential that they begin to be present in the community and preach the conservative message without becoming Democratic-light. Second, they must loudly and actively reject the fringe elements in the party that harbor racist attitudes. To my mind, there simply is no other way to garner the trust of a black electorate that recalls very vividly the days of Jim Crow and the long, hard slog for civil rights.

As it happens, there is right now a battle being waged to protect six black Louisiana teenagers who are fighting for their lives against good-ol'-boy Southern racism and an overzealous prosecutor. I speak of the youths known as the Jena Six. Support of their case offers the opportunity for those of us that define our conservatism by the principles of liberty and justice for all, regardless of race -- principles articulated in our keystone document, given new birth by Lincoln and infused with humanity by King -- to demonstrate that we are made of sterner stuff than talk. That is, if we are serious about putting the party of Lincoln back on track.

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Part II of what EB and his ilk didn't bother to read
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(con't)

As the 2006 school year began at Jena high school, a black youth sat under the tree that has traditionally been the hangout for white students. The following day, three hangman’s nooses were found hanging from the tree. The school superintendent responded with a rather milquetoast response that simply fueled racial tensions in the town and culminated in the beating of a white student who had sold wolf tickets to a group of black boys earlier in the day. The six boys responsible for the beating were arrested and charged with second degree attempted manslaughter and conspiracy. Those charges were eventually lowered to second degree battery charges, but all told, they still face a combined 100 years in prison.

This case has garnered very little coverage in the mainstream media. Much of the left wing blogsophere is following the case, but it is almost invisible on right wing Internet sites, which begs the question: Where is the conservative outrage? The shenanigans going on in Jena are counter to everything we preach and everything we say we believe! Political opportunism should not dictate our actions. Broadcasters and commentators should marshal the same righteous indignation they found for Scooter Libby and take the lead in covering the Jena Six because the fight for justice is supposed to be a hallmark of conservatism. Perhaps we have been slow to the cause because there have been some hints that the character of some of these young men is less than stellar. However, the case is not about the character of these youths, but about whether there is integrity in the law and whether LaSalle Parish will be made to join the 21st century with the rest of us.

It is to the conservative detriment that we sit on the sidelines. We will never win black hearts by standing at arms distance. Our silence will continue to feed the perception among black voters that conservatives secretly hunger for the days of tap-dancing and Jim Crow. As long as we continue to remain silent in the face of such egregious miscarriages of justice perpetrated against black people, we will continue to be outflanked by Democrats who can continue to claim that they are the true champions of equal treatment under the law and our nation's only hope to cure the evil of racism.

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Some of you 'Blacks' on this thread are becoming a little tiresome...
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Posted by: ekipnrut on Sep 20, 2007 5:21 PM   
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Do you think that any one of us could go over to one of the
white feminist threads and place post after post after post....after post of the same dumb shit misogynistic 'talking points' in a particular article...mocking and LYING about the women and their issues as THEY see it...not one or two or even a half dozen or so antagonistic comments. but 20...30 ...50.. on and on.. Think you would be permitted to do that? ...Do you really? Tell you what..carry your 'black ass' over there and fuck with Ms. Valenti and her 'feministing' crew in that way..watch WTF happens..K'? :O)
For that matter..eventually the white women over there would ignore your intruding repetitively fucked up serial bullshit as
insulting to the issues they are trying to discuss with some element of serious deliberation.The same thing goes for the LGBT crew...the jews...and so on. Don't think so?...Try to go fuck around with articles addressed to the special interests- particularly grave matters of life and death-of those groups.I'm well aware of,on occassion, being perceived as the black bull in the porcelain china shop and I am NOT for censorship....but this EB shit is BULLSHIT....this MF is probably
beating his nasty little meat with the glee of "the niggers are
actually DEBATING their issues with me..and in doing so give my racist madness an aura of the ' possibly respectable'..the
conceivably arguable...else why would they take time to engage me in 'discussion(s)?"
You'all do what you want... BUT this EB shit is deteriorating into a farce that does not promote genuine debate including absolute polar disagreement(s). It's just silliness that DEMEANS and trivializes the issues (like Jena).
People of any substance and intelligence may look at this thread and see only a bunch of blacks who are apparently content to pointlessly argue with and be challenged by a racist
clown...they will say "fuck this..I'm outta here" and we will not
have the benefit of their input..even if IT is racist but at least with some room for discussion and refutation however heated that may become.... :O)

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EasterBunny you are a racist hypocrite
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Posted by: neosoul on Sep 21, 2007 6:05 AM   
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I know one thing if a cop sees a person with a gun, and he/she does not put said weapon down, he will shoot that prep no questions asked. What happened in Jena was these white boys were threatening those black kids with a gun (i don't care if it was loaded or not) you can bash someone's head with a gun and kill them the white kid should have gone to jail for assault with a deadly weapon and the black kid freed because he was defending himself against potentially violent harm from a white mob.

You can justify all that racialist BS you want, but if anyone pulls a gun on me, I will make sure they never pull another one again because if that white kid who pulled that shotgun on me, he would be pushing daisies in a cemetary period. And considering he had his boys with him at the time, they all could have been strapped with guns, knives or the like. The Jena case is a prime example of a small southern town practing unequal justice and racism in their justice system.

You white conservatives make me laugh with your utter hypocrisy, maybe it is time that law abiding black kids carried guns to defend themselves against whites in Jena and the police, if you can't depend on equal justice then you can at least have a chance at self- defense.

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JENA SIX: INJUSTICE
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Posted by: cuddleslove_22 on Sep 21, 2007 11:52 AM   
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I am from a small town in Arkansas where injustices still lives on this exactly why this isn’t a joke to me. There is segregation in our town and the courts in those parts are against us African Americans. It hasn’t been long since our freedom was given to us and the South is still in a struggle for their equal opportunities as I comment on this situation. Sure, the white boy lost the fight, but didn’t the same incident happen in a previous fight against a black boy? What makes it so different when a white person is on the other side of the fist? The South is a working process, but a change is due. We, as African American, are constantly attacked whether it’s the saggy pants law, which truly violates the freedom of expression right. A lot of people in the African American communities knew that was a law directed to our black brothers. No, I don’t agree with my boys sagging, but I also don’t agree with a lot of other bizarre expression that interest others.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. – Martin Luther King, Jr.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal... – Thomas Jefferson

Now is the time to lift our national policy from quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity. – Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Six on one is cowardly
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Posted by: BillAnthony on Sep 23, 2007 11:18 PM   
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I favor long sentences in this case for no other reason than general principle. Ratpacking six on one and calling it a "fair fight" tells me that the perpetrators have no clue about the difference between right and wrong. The same can be said of those who defend their crimes. It's said the ringleader is already a multiple violent crime offender, pretty good odds his next assault victim will be African-American, then who's to blame?

Jeez Earl, you're on a roll, recently you took up the cause in another ratpack assault, those dozen "good kids" in Long Beach CA convicted of smashing two girls' faces in with a skateboard and tree branch while robbing them, now these Jenna losers. Condoning violent crime as a civil rights issue is a disgrace.

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Same old story...
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Posted by: chuckcoats on Sep 23, 2007 11:42 PM   
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This so typical of what our society has become....six blacks beat up white kid and somehow they are the victims.

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you gone to far with oj
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Posted by: Joe on Sep 27, 2007 4:29 PM   
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i can agree about the details of the jena six being exaggerated but to hell with the Goldman family. The way they are profiting off the murder of Ron and Nicole they are no better than the murder/murderers.

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Good piece, Mr. Hutchinson
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Posted by: nc green on Sep 18, 2007 5:14 AM   
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Glad to see you back in stride after the recent Fonda fumble.

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Super-Predator Theory has been discredited...and
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Posted by: jimmie on Sep 18, 2007 5:20 AM   
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the author John DiIulio has since back away from it. However the laws that were created using the theory as an underpinniing are still in place.

Give to the Jena Six Legal Defense Fund and let's fight this one in the courts as well. And then to the congress...

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Same thing in VA Beach where drunk drivers are pardoned
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Everyday at least a couple of drunk drivers are "pardoned" and freed from jail even while non-violent offenders get longer sentencing and very slim chance at parole. The irony is that non-white non-violent offenders get at least the same jail time as white and/or violent offenders. Talk about a fucked about injustice system.

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Jena was a hate crime.
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Posted by: johnshadows on Sep 18, 2007 7:53 AM   
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These kids, mad about some noose that had been hung from a tree, all jumped a white kid. I don't care what your background is, what emotional injuries you've suffered, you do not have the right to take your racial grievances out on others in the form of violence. If, in general, black teens are treated differently by the justice system, then that should be fixed. But this case had the makings of a lynching in a public school, and the offenders should be prosecuted to the fullest extent, to send the message that we're not going to put up with that kind of thing. Nobody cried when the Texas rednecks who dragged James Byrd got sentenced to death. And I'm not crying when a group of thugs gets locked up for a gang-attack on one person.

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Racisim is here to stay....
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Posted by: eosrk on Sep 18, 2007 8:02 AM   
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period!

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Why dosen't Jesse, Sharpton, NAACP, and the rest...
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Posted by: eosrk on Sep 18, 2007 8:04 AM   
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go after these private prison contractors whom are making a killing off us on Wall street........

Nothing there, just a wind of hot air......as usual!

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My 'favorite' part
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Posted by: Colton on Sep 18, 2007 9:37 AM   
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of the whole Jena 6 debacle was the white youth that threatened several black youths with a shotgun in a public parking lot, the black youths took the gun away and the cops charged them with Felony Theft ~ of the shotgun.

The white youth was never charged with anything.

The whole idea of "Adult aggravated battery" on someone where the lethal weapon is the "tennis shoes" they are wearing... the kid was sucker punched, fell, hit his head and was knocked unconscious, got up and laughed it off; and they get 15 years in adult prison?

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Posted by: cyit on Sep 18, 2007 11:06 AM   
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It's difficult to know precisely what happened in this particular case, and so it is also difficult to judge the particulars accurately.

However, this piece raises interesting questions.
1. Are black and latino youth more trouble prone than others?
2. Is the criminal justice system properly dealing with them?

As an inner city teacher, minister, and African American observer who has also worked with juvenile detention populations, my answer is yes to the first question. There is no doubt that black and latino youth are over represented as problem students and juvenile offenders far in excess of their percentage of the population. This is a problem.

However, the lock them up, self righteous zeal and fear of a criminal justice system dominated by whites is also a problem. We in the black community have been saying since the Regan era that merely locking up mostly black and latino males for mostly drug crimes does far more harm than good.

Certainly, trouble prone youth must be dealt with and severely. But let's apply justice with an eye toward what these teenagers will be like when they get out of adult jails. Its easy to lock them up and forget about them. Unfortunately, you will see them and feel them over and over again as they live out trouble prone life times.

Wouldn't it cost less in time and money to find out why black and latino youth are failing (by the way it goes beyond poverty)?

In a society where issues of race and class are severely clouded by our history, we must never the less work harder at getting to the root of this issue, rather than feeling smug because a young wanna be felon is off the streets,...for a minute.

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what really happened Part 1
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Posted by: EasterBunny on Sep 18, 2007 12:41 PM   
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as usual the media gets it all wrong. a Jena pastor sets the record straight:

http://www.authorsden.com/categories/article_top.asp?
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excerpts:


àThere has never been an “all white tree” at Jena High School. Although whites traditionally sit under that tree, whites and blacks traditionally sit in other areas as well. Since integration, there has never been forced segregation on the campus.


àThere were two nooses, not three.


àThe actions of the three white students who hung the nooses demonstrate prejudice and bigotry. However, they were not just given “two days suspension” as reported by national news agencies. After first being expelled, then upon appeal, being allowed to re-enter the school system, they were sent to an alternative school, off-campus, for an extended period of time. They underwent investigations by Federal and Sate authorities. They were given psychological evaluations. Even when they were eventually allowed back on campus they were not allowed to be a part of the general population for weeks.


àNo black children demonstrated the day after the noose incident, as reported by CNN. Therefore, Reed Walters did not come to the school to break it up and send the black students back to class, stating that he could “end their life with a stroke of the pen.” In fact, to this day, there has been no demonstration by the black population of Jena, neither at school or anyplace else, except for the family of the Jena Six and protesters from other cities.


àThe speech given by Reed Walters that included the now infamous statement “I can end your life with the stroke of a pen” was not given to a group of black students. It was given during a speech to the entire student body in an assembly called to calm a community that was pulling their children out of school because of the attack on Justin Barker.


àJena does have racial problems. Jena does have bigotry and prejudice, just like every other town in America, perhaps even worse than some. If there were no racial problems, there would have been no nooses hung from a tree. There would not be one white student beaten and six black students charged with attempted second-degree murder. The local ministers would not have hurriedly called a meeting to deal with the issue. The cameras of the world would not have focused their lenses on Jena.


àThe national news media has not mentioned a single time that there was an FBI investigation into the hanging of the nooses and the conduct of Reed Walters that concluded there was no criminal activity or “hate crime” involved. The report is available to the media, along with court records and sworn testimony, none of which has been reported.


àThere was no “fight” on December 4, 2006 at Jena High School, as the national media continues to characterize the event in question. Six students attacked a single student who was immediately knocked unconscious. According to sworn testimony, they stomped him, as he lay “lifeless” upon the ground.



àJustin Barker, the white student attacked, was not the first white student targeted by these black students. Others had been informed they were going to be beaten, but stayed away from school and out of sight until they felt safe.


àCNN reported that there were “obviously no witnesses to the fight.” In fact, over thirty eyewitnesses, students and teachers, were questioned immediately following the attack, all of who implicated one or more of the black students arrested in the case. In fact, some of the accused black students did not stop stomping Barker until they were pulled away from him by some of the teachers, according to testimony given in the trial of Mychal Bell.

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Another Fact-Free, Politically Correct Article
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Posted by: bcgirl125 on Sep 18, 2007 1:12 PM   
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To read the REAL story of what happened in Jena, not the politically correct whining that has tried to pass itself off as journalism on this forum up to now, check out the comments by Easterbunny. Now why can't Alternet post articles like that?

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Protecting young black men
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Posted by: Lesha on Sep 18, 2007 1:51 PM   
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As a people we should not expose our children to such an evil environment where they are not equipped with the knowledge of how to handle the race baiting, trouble making tactics of young white teenagers. As parents we must understand that our young black men are in danger and white America will look for any excuse to lock them up and throw away the key.


This case involving the six teens from Louisiana was a classic case of white people creating the problem to get blacks to react, and then play the victim to gain sympathy from among their peers (their people) knowing full well they are the real trouble makers (classic devils). When blacks and whites wither it be as children, teenagers or grown ups hang around each-other, you best believe their will be trouble (especially for blacks).

Young black men today do not have the discipline nor the knowledge of how to properly react to the insults or jesters some whites will make and often will take actions that will get them in trouble as in the Louisiana six case.

As long as we as a people allow our children to unnecessarily interact with whites when they don't have to, these types of incidents will occur and our young men (black men) will more often than not get the short end of the stick.

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in Northern California, it's the Hispanic Kids (Mexicans mostly)
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Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Sep 18, 2007 9:18 PM   
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in Northern California, it's the Hispanic Kids (Mexicans mostly) locked up in Juvenile Halls.

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Duh! This country is racist, so what else is new?
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Posted by: Shalimarali on Sep 19, 2007 3:04 PM   
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Why is this so shocking? The fact this country is still racist 200 years of slavery. Hundreds of years of slavery of black people will not change the way people act overnight. It took hundreds of years of white oppression, and saying that blacks are 3/4 human, and then whipping, lynching, raping and enslaving blacks to build this country for no pay. The law changed slavery, but not the hearts and minds of those who passed down generations of unjust treatment of blacks. And by the way, racism is so STUPID and mentally retarded. The act of treating another HUMAN BEING like a dog based on skin pigmentation is the most retarded way of thinking in the history of the whole world! It takes are real retard or someone who is MENTALLY ILL/SICK to treat another human being like a dog, just because of their DNA/skin pigmentation. How sick can you get? And the beat goes on. The Jena 6 does not surprise me after after hundreds of years of Jim Crow, lynching, racism & segregation of blacks in this country -- in fact it is to be expected from ignorant retards.

The root problem of racism is that slavery has been swept under a rug. Slavery needs to be addressed and settled, so this country can move on to healing. Imagine a situation where an abusive husband beats, hangs and rapes his wife for decades. Did he ever apologize? Does she forgive him? Does she ever complain about the abuse? Did the abusive relationship ever reach CLOSURE??? This same analogy can be uesd with the relationship between blacks and whites in this country. For hundreds of years white people have been like an abusive, murderous husband to black people, thus making black people their BITCH. Did black people complain about the abuse? YES! Did white people apologize for the abuse? NO! Did the strained relationship between black & white people post-slavery, post-lynching, post-Jim Crow ever heal and reach closure? NO!!!!!

The lack of an apology and closure for slavery is the reason why their has not been any healing from slavery. And thus racism continues on and on because slavery has been ignored & swept under a rug, thus racism continues to flourish.

So, Duh -- another racist event in this country. I'm not surprised, in fact I expected it and more of the same and more until slavery has been property forgiven and closure.

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The usual suspects always rear their imbred heads
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Posted by: Kym525 on Sep 19, 2007 3:38 PM   
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when instances of miscarriages of justice occur between blacks and whites, especially in the South. The sad fact of the matter is that the entire Jena 6 incident could have been avoided had the good 'ol boy white establishment put aside their pointed sheets and served the common good.

We always have the "poor downtrodden and misunderstood" white fella who claims he's all for equality then proceeds to lace his posts full of distortions and thinly veiled epithets. In this case, we have someone pointing out that one of the Jena 6 defendants, Mychal Bell has a juvenile record, as if that makes the harsh sentencing against him perfectly understandable. There's also another poster who somehow minimizes the fact that a white boy pulled a shotgun on several black youths and was not charged, whereas the young black kid who grabbed the gun WAS charged. This piece of work says that because the gun was unloaded, there's no harm no foul.

Sometimes I think white folks like this enjoy keeping racism alive because it gives meaning to their otherwise dull and meaningless lives.

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ARE WE REALLY SURPRISED? COME ON, REALLY....
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Posted by: thetruth07 on Sep 19, 2007 6:12 PM   
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In a country where it is white majority ruled, come on people. Is it really a surprise that a white man with a record can get a job over a black man without a record and education?
And if you watch TV the most valuable person is a white female, especially if she's missing.
In this country all black people are guilty even if they're innocent. That's just the way it is......

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RACIAL FEAR
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Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Sep 19, 2007 8:19 PM   
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The White people of Jena are terrified of the growing Black population, so they panic and look for anything to intimidate them, nooses dangling from trees and railroading a Black teenager to years in prison for a highschool fist fight.

Instead, they might welcome family planning clinics to keep the whole Jena population, Whites and Blacks together within the ability of the area to supply them with jobs and a future.

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We're trying to bring Democracy to Iraq???
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Posted by: Schroeder on Sep 19, 2007 8:36 PM   
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Editor's note: When a Louisiana judge locked up six black teens in the Jena case an investigative team cried foul. On Sept. 14, an appeals court vacated the remaining conviction for second degree battery against one of the accused, saying the charges should have been brought in juvenile court.

I think Barack Obama and every other black leader should be taking every opportunity to give voice for those six black teens. I've watched this story on Democracy Now and seen the young people interviewed. The prosecutor who said that he had the power to end their lives with the stroke of a pen should never be allowed to practice law again. There is so much broken in our society, we have no business whatsoever trying to fix anyone else.

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I wonder where will the kkk will be on 9/20/07?
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Posted by: mobile68 on Sep 19, 2007 10:29 PM   
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Hmmmm.... let's see, maybe down in Jena, La to counterprotest?
It would be funny to see them come out in full force on this agenda.

-Not hatin' on the illegal immigrants by any means, but where was the kkk protesting at their 500k strong rally here in chicago and in l.a.?
-Let's see if the kkk going to protest their gov't when all the banks are about to collaspe and take all of their funds because of this debt and mortage mess.
-Why the kkk aren't hating on the jews anymore? Hmmmm....

Also, the blacks that are living down there are going to be harassed to no ends once this march is over with and something need to be put in place to ensure their safety. Any suggestions? Rational thinkers only. Thank you.

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bring out the clowns!
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Posted by: EasterBunny on Sep 20, 2007 7:00 AM   
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LMAO! all the usual racist clowns are out here calling me all sorts of names including psychopath(!) because i've tried to shed some light on what ACTUALLY happened in Jena. it doesn't fit the neat little morality tale of white perpetrators and innocent black victims, so the emotional and biased reaction sets in. sorry, it's the truth. deal with it. the Jena 6 are gulity of assault, they deserve to be punished. it's not jim crow, it's not an injustice. IT'S THE LAW! if me and my friends stomped on someone as they lay bleeding and unconscious i would EXPECT to be arrested. wouldn't you?

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Should have never happen
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Posted by: larry123 on Sep 20, 2007 8:02 AM   
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What do you expect when three white teens place ropes on a tree,and one white teen calls black teens niggers to there face.This is 2007 and no one is going to sit and let racial biggets do what there parents and there parents before them did.

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The things people rationalize
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Posted by: anonymous black writer on Sep 20, 2007 8:02 AM   
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Also, like you Enigma, I don't believe the punishment fit the crime either. However, I am not surprised they got them. But even this being the case forty freakin' years? These black boys did NOT commit a hate crime no matter how people try to dice it. You, I, and some sensible posters including whites-judging by the posts of some white people on other sites concerning the Jena 6 see it this way. Violence was Not initiated by black people. Several white people prior to this incident jumped a black boy and no jail time came for them prior to this. We all know if jail time was to come for them, it would not have been 40 years. If it went down for this for these white kids, what justify those black kids getting 40 years if any time at all? I could understand punishment but four decades!!! DJ7128-my sentiments as well. Excuse my potential mistakes in prior posts.

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a prohibited truth
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Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Sep 20, 2007 8:56 AM   
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Isn't it curious that no one wants to talk about the actual source of racial tension in Jena and elsewhere around the nation - the growth of competing populations. Yet, isn't it obvious that White people in Jena are terrified of the growth of their Black population because it means they will eventually become a majority and take over the government?! OOH ( ! ) But because White people so often panic and act irrationally, their fears actually come true, as in several cities around the USA where Blacks are indeed a majority and elected officials are as often Black as White, which solves nothing as the general population continues to grow and joblessness and crime along with it.

So, instead of always playing racial politics, wouldn't it be wiser to welcome a family planning clinic to Jena where both White and Black women can plan their families according to the availability of education and jobs in the area and beyond? And wouldn't that be a smart thing to do across the USA? When every child is guaranteed a job and a decent future, both White and Black parents can live in peace.

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Posted by: aumfish on Sep 20, 2007 9:05 AM   
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Adolescent pack mentality, low self-esteem,inadequate conflict resolution skills fueled by testosterone provide a formula for violence. If someone needs to hurt someone, a perception of "otherness" is a great excuse. We humans demonstrate that perceptual distortion individually and collectively, in our propaganda machines and our personal rationalizations for inhumane behavior. This event could be an important teachable moment for us as well as those wounded youths.

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Jena=OJ=Vick=Long Beach
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Posted by: EasterBunny on Sep 20, 2007 9:18 AM   
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this is another case where some blacks completely lose sight of truth and reason and morality and go off the deep end. now a vicious 6 on 1 assault is supposed to be okay because it was a white victim. sorry, it's never right. they need to be punished. i haven't heard a single word of support or compassion for the beating victim from anyone on this thread. hey he's not black, so it doesn't count. just like Vick's dogs, or OJ's wife or poor Ron Goldman. or those girls almost beaten to death in Long Beach CA. You should at least PRETEND to care about the victims, it'll make you look like a decent human being. i always side with the victims in this case and all others. break the law, you get punished. no special treatment for anyone. that's how it should be.

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Can any white person please explain and justify
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Posted by: mobile68 on Sep 20, 2007 10:22 AM   
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your people's hate of black people?
What has black people as a group has ever done to your people as a group?
It seems that all you white people know about black people is to hate them.

Black people did not lie to the American people about going to war with Iraq.
Black people did not invade europe and enslaved your people and stole and STEALING your natural resources
Black people did not ship all the jobs overseas to further exploit other peoples of color
Black people are not replacing legal u.s. workers with imported illegal citizens for the few jobs that are left here in the u.s.
Black people are not responsible for emerging mortage and credit that's about to explode in 1929 fashion
Black people did not invent weapons so powerful that will wipe out the earth with the push of a button
Black people did not destroy the enviroment to the point of near extinction of all living beings
Black people did not squander billions of dollars of the working american 401k and pension funds

So white people, please justify your hate of black people so that maybe I can understand your way of thinking and rationalizing. Until then white people, based on history, should be the ones who are viewed with suspicion and comtempt.

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some words of wisdom
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Commentary: The Jena Six Case, Part Two: White Racism Enrages Us More than Our Own Fratricide

By: Gregory Kane

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So, why did I hesitate to write about the case of the Jena Six?

For two reasons, mainly: One is the case of the West Palm Beach Two, who don’t seem to warrant any attention from black folks. When it comes to mistreating black people, the skin color of the mistreaters makes all the difference with us.

The Jena Six are African-American teenage boys in Louisiana who were charged with attempted murder...

Mychal Bell, one of the Jena Six, is the only one who’s been tried so far. His charges were reduced to aggravated battery, and he was found guilty in June. But what else happened in June?

At a predominantly black housing project called Dunbar Village in West Palm Beach, Florida, 10 black teens repeatedly raped a Haitian immigrant woman before forcing her to perform oral sex on her 12-year-old son. Why doesn’t what happened to the West Palm Beach Two outrage the good reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton just as much as what happened in Jena, Louisiana?


It was our silence about what happened to that poor woman and her son that made me hesitate to write about the Jena Six. That, and the body count.

You know which body count I’m talking about. In Baltimore, as of the time I’m writing this, that body count has reached 215. Last year, Philadelphia’s body count was over 400.

Over 400 murdered in Philadelphia in 2006 and 215 in Baltimore this year. And let’s not forget who most of the victims are: Young black men, just like the Jena Six.

The case of the Jena Six has inspired some black folks to let out a war whoop as they sally forth to slay yet another dragon of white racism. But those black folks who think that white racism is the only problem we face in 2007, or even the main one, are deluding themselves.

In fact, our obsession with white racism, and with a criminal justice system that we insist is rife with white racism and institutional racism, may contribute to that body count. Here’s how.

I can’t speak for other cities, but in Baltimore our body count gets so high because jurors in this town repeatedly cut loose young black men accused of violent crimes. In Baltimore -- Bodymore, Murderland, the criminals call it -- the typical homicide victim is a young black man with a criminal record. Homicide suspects have the same profile.

I’ve had people in a position to know tell me that, more frequently than is ever reported, Baltimore jurors have cut loose young black men with lengthy criminal records who have been accused of either murder or another violent crime. It is our insistence that white racism is pervasive and that the criminal justice system is rife with racism that may inspire some jurors to send these young black men back out on the streets, where they commit more murders.

“Baltimore’s circuit courts are a conviction-free zone,” a source who wants to remain anonymous once told me.

So, yes, we should protest -- and protest vigorously -- whenever cases like that of the Jena Six come along. But our lips should not be sealed shut when a black woman is raped and forced to perform oral sex on her 12-year-old son.

That body count of young black men murdered should outrage us every bit as much as what’s happened to the Jena Six. A young black man murdering another young black man and then walking out of court scot-free is just as much an injustice as six young black men being railroaded by the Louisiana criminal justice system.

“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere,” Martin Luther King Jr. once said.

he might have added that injustice doesn’t come only in the color white

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What EB and his ilk didn't bother to read
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If Conservatives Don’t Weigh in On the Jena Six Injustice, We’ll Continue to Lose Black Support
Date: Thursday, September 13, 2007
By: Joseph C. Phillips, BlackAmericaWeb.com

How do conservatives break the democratic hold on the black vote? It is a question I am asked all the time. My answer -- my best guess -- is always the same and it is twofold.

First, conservatives in the form of the Republican Party must be more actively present in the black community. Because the black vote tends to be so overwhelmingly Democratic, Republican candidates tend to ignore black communities, offering a token presence at best. It is essential that they begin to be present in the community and preach the conservative message without becoming Democratic-light. Second, they must loudly and actively reject the fringe elements in the party that harbor racist attitudes. To my mind, there simply is no other way to garner the trust of a black electorate that recalls very vividly the days of Jim Crow and the long, hard slog for civil rights.

As it happens, there is right now a battle being waged to protect six black Louisiana teenagers who are fighting for their lives against good-ol'-boy Southern racism and an overzealous prosecutor. I speak of the youths known as the Jena Six. Support of their case offers the opportunity for those of us that define our conservatism by the principles of liberty and justice for all, regardless of race -- principles articulated in our keystone document, given new birth by Lincoln and infused with humanity by King -- to demonstrate that we are made of sterner stuff than talk. That is, if we are serious about putting the party of Lincoln back on track.

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Part II of what EB and his ilk didn't bother to read
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(con't)

As the 2006 school year began at Jena high school, a black youth sat under the tree that has traditionally been the hangout for white students. The following day, three hangman’s nooses were found hanging from the tree. The school superintendent responded with a rather milquetoast response that simply fueled racial tensions in the town and culminated in the beating of a white student who had sold wolf tickets to a group of black boys earlier in the day. The six boys responsible for the beating were arrested and charged with second degree attempted manslaughter and conspiracy. Those charges were eventually lowered to second degree battery charges, but all told, they still face a combined 100 years in prison.

This case has garnered very little coverage in the mainstream media. Much of the left wing blogsophere is following the case, but it is almost invisible on right wing Internet sites, which begs the question: Where is the conservative outrage? The shenanigans going on in Jena are counter to everything we preach and everything we say we believe! Political opportunism should not dictate our actions. Broadcasters and commentators should marshal the same righteous indignation they found for Scooter Libby and take the lead in covering the Jena Six because the fight for justice is supposed to be a hallmark of conservatism. Perhaps we have been slow to the cause because there have been some hints that the character of some of these young men is less than stellar. However, the case is not about the character of these youths, but about whether there is integrity in the law and whether LaSalle Parish will be made to join the 21st century with the rest of us.

It is to the conservative detriment that we sit on the sidelines. We will never win black hearts by standing at arms distance. Our silence will continue to feed the perception among black voters that conservatives secretly hunger for the days of tap-dancing and Jim Crow. As long as we continue to remain silent in the face of such egregious miscarriages of justice perpetrated against black people, we will continue to be outflanked by Democrats who can continue to claim that they are the true champions of equal treatment under the law and our nation's only hope to cure the evil of racism.

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Some of you 'Blacks' on this thread are becoming a little tiresome...
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Do you think that any one of us could go over to one of the
white feminist threads and place post after post after post....after post of the same dumb shit misogynistic 'talking points' in a particular article...mocking and LYING about the women and their issues as THEY see it...not one or two or even a half dozen or so antagonistic comments. but 20...30 ...50.. on and on.. Think you would be permitted to do that? ...Do you really? Tell you what..carry your 'black ass' over there and fuck with Ms. Valenti and her 'feministing' crew in that way..watch WTF happens..K'? :O)
For that matter..eventually the white women over there would ignore your intruding repetitively fucked up serial bullshit as
insulting to the issues they are trying to discuss with some element of serious deliberation.The same thing goes for the LGBT crew...the jews...and so on. Don't think so?...Try to go fuck around with articles addressed to the special interests- particularly grave matters of life and death-of those groups.I'm well aware of,on occassion, being perceived as the black bull in the porcelain china shop and I am NOT for censorship....but this EB shit is BULLSHIT....this MF is probably
beating his nasty little meat with the glee of "the niggers are
actually DEBATING their issues with me..and in doing so give my racist madness an aura of the ' possibly respectable'..the
conceivably arguable...else why would they take time to engage me in 'discussion(s)?"
You'all do what you want... BUT this EB shit is deteriorating into a farce that does not promote genuine debate including absolute polar disagreement(s). It's just silliness that DEMEANS and trivializes the issues (like Jena).
People of any substance and intelligence may look at this thread and see only a bunch of blacks who are apparently content to pointlessly argue with and be challenged by a racist
clown...they will say "fuck this..I'm outta here" and we will not
have the benefit of their input..even if IT is racist but at least with some room for discussion and refutation however heated that may become.... :O)

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EasterBunny you are a racist hypocrite
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Posted by: neosoul on Sep 21, 2007 6:05 AM   
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I know one thing if a cop sees a person with a gun, and he/she does not put said weapon down, he will shoot that prep no questions asked. What happened in Jena was these white boys were threatening those black kids with a gun (i don't care if it was loaded or not) you can bash someone's head with a gun and kill them the white kid should have gone to jail for assault with a deadly weapon and the black kid freed because he was defending himself against potentially violent harm from a white mob.

You can justify all that racialist BS you want, but if anyone pulls a gun on me, I will make sure they never pull another one again because if that white kid who pulled that shotgun on me, he would be pushing daisies in a cemetary period. And considering he had his boys with him at the time, they all could have been strapped with guns, knives or the like. The Jena case is a prime example of a small southern town practing unequal justice and racism in their justice system.

You white conservatives make me laugh with your utter hypocrisy, maybe it is time that law abiding black kids carried guns to defend themselves against whites in Jena and the police, if you can't depend on equal justice then you can at least have a chance at self- defense.

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JENA SIX: INJUSTICE
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Posted by: cuddleslove_22 on Sep 21, 2007 11:52 AM   
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I am from a small town in Arkansas where injustices still lives on this exactly why this isn’t a joke to me. There is segregation in our town and the courts in those parts are against us African Americans. It hasn’t been long since our freedom was given to us and the South is still in a struggle for their equal opportunities as I comment on this situation. Sure, the white boy lost the fight, but didn’t the same incident happen in a previous fight against a black boy? What makes it so different when a white person is on the other side of the fist? The South is a working process, but a change is due. We, as African American, are constantly attacked whether it’s the saggy pants law, which truly violates the freedom of expression right. A lot of people in the African American communities knew that was a law directed to our black brothers. No, I don’t agree with my boys sagging, but I also don’t agree with a lot of other bizarre expression that interest others.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. – Martin Luther King, Jr.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal... – Thomas Jefferson

Now is the time to lift our national policy from quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity. – Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Six on one is cowardly
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Posted by: BillAnthony on Sep 23, 2007 11:18 PM   
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I favor long sentences in this case for no other reason than general principle. Ratpacking six on one and calling it a "fair fight" tells me that the perpetrators have no clue about the difference between right and wrong. The same can be said of those who defend their crimes. It's said the ringleader is already a multiple violent crime offender, pretty good odds his next assault victim will be African-American, then who's to blame?

Jeez Earl, you're on a roll, recently you took up the cause in another ratpack assault, those dozen "good kids" in Long Beach CA convicted of smashing two girls' faces in with a skateboard and tree branch while robbing them, now these Jenna losers. Condoning violent crime as a civil rights issue is a disgrace.

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Same old story...
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Posted by: chuckcoats on Sep 23, 2007 11:42 PM   
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This so typical of what our society has become....six blacks beat up white kid and somehow they are the victims.

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you gone to far with oj
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Posted by: Joe on Sep 27, 2007 4:29 PM   
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i can agree about the details of the jena six being exaggerated but to hell with the Goldman family. The way they are profiting off the murder of Ron and Nicole they are no better than the murder/murderers.

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