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Uncovering Child Sex Abuse: A Stand-Off with the Catholic Church

By Bill Frogameni, Ms. Magazine. Posted August 9, 2007.


A nationwide push is happening to extend the amount of time victims of childhood sexual abuse have to seek justice. While most people are rejoicing, the Catholic Church is fighting the legislation.
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This is an excerpt from a longer report in Ms. magazine. To get the whole story, pick up Ms. magazine on newsstands now.

Joelle Casteix was a 15-year-old Catholic schoolgirl in the mid-1980s when a teacher began molesting her. The abuse ended when she was 17, but not, she says, before she contracted genital warts, got pregnant and had an abortion.

At the time of the molestation, Casteix confronted the administrators of her school, Mater Dei High in Orange County, Calif., but says she was asked to keep quiet. Behind the scenes, administrators eventually verified her claims and elicited an extraordinary signed confession from her abuser, who also admitted molesting another student.

But it wasn't until 2005 -- after the original statute of limitations had expired -- that Casteix finally found justice. Thanks to a California law enacted in 2002, she was able to compel the Church to hand over its documents, which allowed her to join a then-record $100 million settlement reached between abuse victims and the Diocese of Orange. Casteix received $1.6 million herself.

The 2002 California law gave victims of childhood sexual abuse a one-year "civil window," allowing those with otherwise expired claims to sue retroactively. Lawmakers recognized it can take years for sexually abused children to confront their abuse -- a task made all the more difficult if the abuser is a religious authority. An estimated 800 litigants took advantage of the window and filed suits, and many of those suits were settled in July when the Catholic Diocese of Los Angeles agreed to pay a total of $660 million to 508 victims of priest sexual abuse.

The California law was the first effort to give victims of long-ago abuse their day in court. In its wake, there's been a nationwide push to lengthen inadequate statutes and allow retroactive litigation in other states. (With criminal statutes, at least 25 states no longer have time limits for prosecuting the most serious offenses.) Approximately a dozen states have considered following California's lead and providing a "window" for retroactive civil suits, and Delaware is the latest to approve a statute-extending law with a civil window. Previous Delaware law allowed children only two years from the date of their abuse to bring civil action. "I didn't think it was fair a child would be expected to hire an attorney within two years and sue," says State Sen. Karen Peterson, who sponsored the legislation. "Some of these kids are 5 and 6 years old."

Although such legislation isn't meant to apply only to victims of clerical abuse, opposition has overwhelmingly come from the Catholic Church. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops claims not to hold a position on retroactive suits, but bishops' conferences in individual states have lobbied vigorously against them. Last year, a bill proposed by Colorado State Senate President Joan Fitzgerald to extend civil statutes and create a window period was effectively killed after Colorado's bishops hired lobbyists and had letters read in church invoking the fear of bankruptcy and urging congregants to call their representatives. "It was horrific," says Fitzgerald. "They pulled out all the stops ... It seemed amazing to me -- their lack of concern for their flock and their laity."

Fitzgerald, herself Catholic, believes that concerns about unfair suits and Church bankruptcy are red herrings. The real agenda, she thinks, is to insulate Church leaders from further public scrutiny over abuse and cover-ups. Bishops are required by Church law to keep records of scandal secret, so documentation of abuse often remains in files controlled by top diocesan officials. Barbara Blaine, founder of the Survivors Network for those Abused by Priests (SNAP), agrees with Fitzgerald that bishops' real fear is having these documents exposed. "More than anything else, they are fixated on avoiding depositions and courtroom testimony where they'll be treated like regular citizens instead of royalty, and where they'll have to explain decades of secrecy and recklessness and corruption," Blaine says.

Retroactive civil action affords a unique opportunity to identify perpetrators who escaped criminal penalties and may still be abusive, says Marci Hamilton, a professor at Yeshiva University's Cardozo School of Law and author of God vs.The Gavel: Religion and the Rule of Law (Cambridge University Press, 2005). "If you don't extend the statute of limitations and you don't create a window, it's just a given you won't know about 90 percent of the perpetrators out there," says Hamilton, who has testified in several states on the constitutionality of retroactive civil windows.

SNAP's Blaine refuses to accept a system that lets child abusers -- and those who protected them -- off the hook. "Many prosecutors are timid and many laws are antiquated," she says, "so [Church] cover-ups will stay covered up unless child sex victims are given a chance to seek justice and expose crimes in court."

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there is no good reason for time limits on criminal prosecutions
Posted by: Suzon on Aug 9, 2007 4:20 AM   
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Of course it is possible for people to regret a criminal act and to reform accordingly, but juries would take evidence of that into consideration.

Here in the UK there are many time limits which protect the incompetent and the corrupt. This is completely unjustifiable.

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Because...
Posted by: Xynyx on Aug 9, 2007 7:07 AM   
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We NEEDED some more evidence that the core of the Catholic Church is EVIL.

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» RE: Because... Posted by: TheNamelessCity
why isn't the Catholic Church prosecuted under the Federal RICO
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Aug 9, 2007 7:11 AM   
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statutes? They are clearly a corrupt, criminal organisation, both today and in decades past. Whether is it protecting paedophiles, support for terrorists like the IRA, sheltering illegal immigrants, association with Italian mafia, involved with banking fraud (remember the Vatican banking scandal), involved with criminal CIA activities in Italy and in South America (read 'Legacy of Ashes' for details), maintaining organisations and facilities for abuse of boys (orphanages, schools), and so on and so on. Going back even further the Catholic Church has been involved in wars, political intrigues, colonisation violence, corruption, torture, crusades, kidnapping, etc.

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More Vulgar Tittilation
Posted by: faultroy on Aug 9, 2007 7:26 AM   
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I hate these seemingly altruistic articles that are steeped in misleading if not downright misinformation.
First of all, to imply that a 15 year old is "being molested" and on the same level as a 5-6 year old is downright disgusting. We now have 10 year olds having sex on school buses while their friends watch. We have--as standard procedure 10 year olds performing oral sex on one another--because "it doesn't really count as sex." The article infers that the victim was raped and received her genital warts and pregnancy as a result of the molestation, but I doubt this would be the case, since if the school did do this, the Admininstrators are guilty of aiding and abetting a felony--which is in itself a felony. Nor does the article state specifically how she was "molested." I mean are we talking about Rape or are we talking about indecent touching. As readers we should really know this.
And isn't it really amazing all the "victims" that come crawling out of the woodwork when someone mentions the sacred word: "COMPENSATION." I think it nothing short of "miraculous" how the power of money transforms a sad and shameful experience to one of "justice" and "vindication"
and "empowerment."
The sad reality is that the Catholic Church is made of of billions of people that must contribute part of their hard earned money to pay for these claims. The Church is not a profit center so they must obtain their funds via donations.
Attacking the Church is attacking poor innocents that have nothing to do with these sordid events. It is up to the faithful--most with meager incomes--to make up the financial windfall to the "abused."
I used to hold conservative writers in contempt for their one sided hatchet jobs. But now I see that this cancer of misinformation and devious reporting is just as pervasive with liberals--and even Progressives--who should know better.
Has it really come to this--the whore calling the Prostitute unchaste? When is this going to stop?

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» RE: More Vulgar Tittilation Posted by: Chickensh*tEagle
» RE: More Vulgar Tittilation Posted by: christastropher
» Blame the Victim???????? Posted by: Ellie1
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» RE: More Vulgar Tittilation Posted by: Roverton
These are the same perverts who demand that abstinence be the only birth control allowed.
Posted by: Pat Kittle on Aug 9, 2007 9:42 AM   
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Everyone in the Catholic clergy either ARE child molesters or COVERED UP for child molesters. From the Pope on down, they all KNEW the whole damn time.

Meanwhile these perverts demand:
-----abstinence be the only form of birth control, and that
-----the Earth easily support at least 40 billion humans, and that
-----we open our borders to unlimited population growth (consisting of mostly highly gullible Catholics, surprise, surprise!).

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Why are we surprised...
Posted by: babs on Aug 9, 2007 12:19 PM   
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... that men in dresses and funny hats, told by their god that they can't have sex, who teach that women are either virgins or whores, who practice ritual cannibalism and worship a man being tortured to death - don't practice what they preach?

As a failed Catholic, the actions of the power base that is the church of Rome never surprises me. And the poor dears own trillions of dollars worth of art and real estate and don't pay any taxes. Nice work if you can get it.

I wonder how the "faithful" square those pedophile clergy and the cover-up of these cowardly and disgusting crimes?

Make em pay and pay and pay - they've got the money - bet on it. And any Catholics who oppose restitution are not real Catholics anyway.

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» RE: Why are we surprised... Posted by: WyrdSister
Classic example of suppressed sexuality and psychotic responses
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Aug 9, 2007 1:00 PM   
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Fundamentalist Catholics have sex on the brain. They're like those Victorian gentlemen who were driven into a frenzy at the sight of a naked ankle.

The Catholic message is: "Don't think about sex! Abstain!" which simply means that all they think about is sex. Don't think of a blue elephant, right? But, now you're thinking about a blue elephant, aren't you?

This is why so many Catholic clergy have engaged in child sex abuse. The fact that bishops and the Pope deliberately attempted to cover it up is also a common response to allegations of child sex abuse.

See Confidential letter reveals Ratzinger ordered bishops to keep allegations secret

'Cases of this kind are subject to the pontifical secret,' Ratzinger's letter concludes. Breaching the pontifical secret at any time while the 10-year jurisdiction order is operating carries penalties, including the threat of excommunication.

This is a PR technique called 'transferance'. In advertising, it involves the use of attractive, scantily-clad people to sell products. Sexual desire is transferred to the product. The Catholic Church operates in the same manner - sex is sinful, you should feel guilty, but if you come to our church and drop 10% of your income in the coffers, all will be absolved.

What a clever scam!

(It's also a common theme for child predators to dress themselves up in the most flattering attire - who could be more trustworthy than a priest or a teacher? The fact of the matter, tho, is that the Catholic Church, from the Pope on down, actually assisted these child predators in their crimes.)

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BEELZEBUB
Posted by: bobjbax on Aug 20, 2007 9:07 PM   
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You will find here some passages in quotation marks. Most of that comes from a quick study of various topics within the generally public dialogued and accepted Wikipedia reference. The rest mostly from our Library of Congress. Safe enough I think. That remaining, scattered through without quotation marks is just me jabberin at ya. Small attempts at poor humor on poorer subjects to try and lighten things up a bit. I personally am of no religion, just Truth and Good, so this is not an attack, just a defense, a presentation of those of religion's own facts and acts more and more unfortunately presented US by they themselves.

BEELZEBUB

"In Christianity writings, the name Beelzebub or Beelzebul may appear as an alternate name for Satan." "Seemingly Beelzebul is here simply Satan/Lucifer. Beelzebul claims to cause destruction through tyrants, to cause demons to be worshipped among men, to excite priests to lust, to cause jealousies in cities and murders, and to bring on war." Sound a bit familiar? Mr. Tyrant and his dead eye demon roosting up there dictating to US with those pointy ears in their stolen Whuthauz? We are knee deep again in the gris and corpses of innocent babies, children, their mothers, their fathers honorably defending them and their homes. In Iraq this time around. We are knee deep in perversely lustful priests too, eh? "Zebûb; from 'zebel', a word used to mean 'dung' in the Targums." "'Lord of things that fly' (zebûb being a Hebrew collective noun for 'fly', thus the common lay translation 'Lord of the Flies')." "Baal of Flies." LORD OF THE FLIES. THE LORDS OF CORPSES. Hmmm.. 'christian' Commander and Chief of our Air Force, things that fly, drop death's dung. Quite a script they are 'acting out' here. "Beelzebub is the chief lieutenant of Lucifer, the Emperor of Hell, and presides over the Order of the Fly." "authoritative religious writings place Beelzebub among the three most prominent fallen angels, the other two being Lucifer and Leviathan" "an unholy trinity consisting of Beelzebub, Lucifer, and Astaroth".

THE CARBON CORPSETOCRACY

WE ARE BEING BURNED IN THEIR SMOKING
CARBONACEOUS HELL

ALL HELL JEEZULBUB !!!
it would seem.

puzzled? furrowed brow? plant the seed.

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BEELZEBUB
Posted by: bobjbax on Aug 20, 2007 9:08 PM   
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The Society of Jesus. The catholic pope's secret and ruthless army historically occulted in their darker agendas. The Jesuits. Their inner sanctum black banner emblazoned with a dagger and red cross above a skull and crossbones with the four letters INRI. Below that the words IUSTUM NECAR REGES IMPIUS. The latin interprets clearly: "It is just to exterminate or annihilate impious or heretical Kings, Governments, or Rulers."

"Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated."

Their Extreme Oath of Induction demands for betrayers and heretics that their "belly be opened and sulphur burned therein".

- abdomen exsisto patefacio quod sulphur extermino inibi -

HELL’S FIRE & BRIMSTONE

The "Poison Cup" of that oath. Arsenic. The Fiery Pit.

THE LAKE OF FIRE

We are being drowned in that lake like a tow sack full of innocent kittens. It is often written that the devils greatest trick is to convince you that he doesn't exist. He doesn't actually. But there are humans who have taken near such power that do exist and they are the personification of that mythical deception and evil. We do not see them, their ultimate safety lies in that historic deception. Old as the Hills, of their arrogance and success at it through their church organs and strawmen, their further deceptions succeed in that we do not rightly see the actual nearer imposed truths of the symbologies they condition us to 'accept'. 'See'. As the Lake of Fire. These mandarins smirkingly get away with it. Some of us still among the living know well the near truth of that fiery pit in our bellies.

By these twisted sister's foul hands imagine the Lake of Fire poisoned into the heart of a sexually tortured child!!

- ye shall know the Great Satan’s True Hand by his minion’s poisoning of your minds, your hearts, your bodily temples, your lands.. - (my words)

Examine your Health. Examine your Lives. Take the Hint.

Time for the pope to jump rope. Hemp rope.

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BEELZEBUB
Posted by: bobjbax on Aug 20, 2007 9:09 PM   
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We wait the occasional warnings of hazard half seriously, sinking slowly into the blindness of our growing apathies. Finally accept that the warnings were false. There is no hazard. Something is different though. We do not understand that they intervened and guided the warnings as their calculated ploys to precondition us and divert us to watch for something else other that never happens, they finally leading us to impugn and ignore the factual truthtellers, they blinding us to the actual truth that they have already taken us in the ways we chose not to see. We are enslaved by them in our own minds, their great victory over us, and great safety in leading us to not perceive that. Be then able to think to challenge them. They are much smarter than we are.. are they not?

Predatory Criminality and it's devastations upon our societies are Old As The Hills. They have long studied this, thousands of years, they well remember and use their wiles gained and they act against us endlessly and ruthlessly by these monstrous 'philosophies of operation'. It is we of good and innocent heart who forget. Crucial for them.. we 'forget' with their 'help'. A requirement to obtain to the ultimate occulted goals set for the jesuits, that when the time comes, "black will be white.. white will be black". They are all.. corporatist, jesuit and dominionist carny barker alike.. historically quite skilled at it. We are spun. You most, long beguiled by that flickering, forked tongue of light slithering from their toob into your minds, your 'remote control' possessively grasped in your hands, mesmerized, soma'ed into your couch.. GET OFF THEIR POISONOUS TIT! KILL YOUR TOOB!! A bit woo woo fer ya? Think again. enslaved...

JEEZULBUB

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BEELZEBUB
Posted by: bobjbax on Aug 20, 2007 9:10 PM   
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I speak here from personal experience. Sorry to say I grew up in the sulphurous infernal regions of texass. Apologies though to the many fine people thereabouts too. I know you are outnumbered, enveloped. I know as you do that if you stick your head up or speak out, you will be treated as 'vermin', your fates soon enough at these other's hands little different. For my part there, from near birth, perfect attendence pins in their 'churchs' through my beginning decade and a half. If not of 'faith' in what they endlessly pressed against me, as a child I had faith in them anyway. They were my world. All I knew. I loved them. It was their ruthless regimentation and segregation, irrational biases, nasty prejudices, horrid hatreds and vicious violences, riven through with cruel and indefensible deceptions and inconsistencies, the sacramentally oiled guns behind every door, the closet arsenals, their deeper true intent ahead finally rising about US now, their nasty underbelly of churchco child molesters they forced too close that all together finally brought me to clearer reason. "Onward christian soldiers marching as to war.." bellowed up from every 'church' into the heavens for a hundred years. Their mad betrayal of us all. I understood what LOVE really is.. and was not distorted by them in my inner truths. Thankfully by 16, I was delivered from them to a better life among those of better vision out in our greater Nation.

These dominionist tools are in the main a hundred something year old cultural history of a people who near unanimously and fervently secretly worshipped Grand Dragons and Imperial Wizards of the Confederation of Independent Orders, Invisible Empire Knights of the Klu Klux Klan. Beelzebub just comes 'naturally' to them. These superstitious shallowers are maddened on carnival tent snake oil. What is one to expect of this 50 million strong pack of pistol packing poisoners champing at satan's bit. The Four Horsemen are among US as you read this. Evil set to destroy Good. If Jesus has come down as 'prophesied', it's a dead cinch they snatched him, flayed him, nailed his hide on some bats in the belfry barn wall deep in Dismal Swamp. History is our witness.. one can safely draw some conclusions here I rather think.

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BEELZEBUB
Posted by: bobjbax on Aug 20, 2007 9:11 PM   
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In my 40 adult years since texas, I have been tolerant and respectful of all 'christian belief sects' though I well knew the truth of them. I have remained open minded but nothing whatsoever they have done through these decades passed has shown me any different. At this dire point in our history rising, I think that we can all see that their hidden and very real agendas in play for these days now at hand, are not ones of tolerance and respect for the rest of us on this planet. Those who work by deception to enslave you are simply enough.. CRIMINALS.

Given the history of events and their official's crimes unending, it is no surprise that near all so called 'christian' religions are well organized by them and it's adherents manipulated for hundreds of years, and most certainly are Criminal Conspiracies. The Darby/Scofield Deception. They are all, this way or that, catholic, jew and evangoid the same in it, the tools of those historically occulting themselves from our view and our proper assessment of their character and motives. Why should we ignore their crimes against us, close our eyes to them? ESPECIALLY MASS SERIAL CHILD SEXUAL TORTURE!! Never mind these serial Genocides across the globe. KILL FER JEZUZ !! These people, if one might dignify them as such, are what they are.

"Dispensationalists teach that Jesus returns to earth before the Tribulational period to reclaim the righteous, dead and living, to meet Him in the air (known as the Rapture [8]." By their own religious writings and tracts, it is satan though that is "the prince of the power of the air". Gee whiz, am I missing something here? "The overarching goal of the Devil is to destroy the work of God, condemning the souls of mankind to hell for eternity (1 Peter 5:8)." These professed christians today savage for their paramour of worship that they must soon kill all the "unbelievers" and "scourge the Earth", "armageddon", destroying it. They are doing a good job of it already.. huh? "According to most Christian eschatology, Satan will wage a final war against Jesus, before being cast into Hell for 'aeonios.' [6]" Given that, would the waging of murderous war be the goal of the Prince of Peace? .. or the Prince of Darkness?

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BEELZEBUB
Posted by: bobjbax on Aug 20, 2007 9:12 PM   
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Do these narratives of their religious agendas seem the works and being of their jesus? .. or their satan?

JEEZULBUB

Large numbers of those of supposedly more peaceful 'christian belief churchs' have long, and today well know all this. Yet they do not speak out to warn US of their fellow monsters TREASONOUSLY imposed upon US enslavement this day. Their silence is criminal collaboration. Plain and Simple. Better get right with gawd you scabrously pontificating, 'suited up' jerks.. and be damn quick about it. All bets are off with me.. you are not deserving of anything of the nature of respect.. only that one would grant a hissing venomous viper. Get a grip you 'christians', step through these small differences they have carefully inflamed in so many of you, you deceive yourselves. Pull Together Against This. For All Our Children. For Truth, Good, Human Decency, Tolerance.. Justice. Your religions are your private matter.. until you criminally attack US all with them. HONOR AND DEFEND THE GREAT WISDOM OF OUR CONSTITUTION. Divided.. we are all conquered.

Open your eyes. Before it is too late. They are rising out of their deceptions visibly about you now. Their own criminal choice in these matters they soon press to all our throats .. in one guise or another.. they reign supreme over you.. or else. It's you.. or them. Better rein them in. They hide behind a great crime against US that we foolishly allowed them over a hundred years ago, the 'corporation'. In truth these corporate PR fronts are just criminal fronts. These occulteds are held by it's peculiar status proof from any legal liability for their actions and from our knowledge and judgement of them. You cannot hang a piece of paper for murder. Free, Fair, Open Enterprise breeds Free, Fair, Open Men. Your Community.

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BEELZEBUB
Posted by: bobjbax on Aug 20, 2007 9:13 PM   
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Their other crucial criminal deception against US was the 'party system' they used to take our Precious Suffrage. Both to be, arrived now, fatal deceptions. Our only Safety will be to Fully Penetrate all this and Rightfully press True and Lasting Justice. That must be Full Justice, to the bone of these criminal monsters. All. Burn out these rat's nests. The straw of their strawmen.. follow the stench of the real rats historically occulting themselves in their darknesses. Before they disappear again like carboned smoke. Do unto them as they now do unto you. Fully ruthlessly as they. Equal Justice For All Under Constitutional Law again. End Their Crimes!! Or else.

SAVE OUR CHILDREN.

Dear Jesus,
They are profaning your name in vain as Jeezulbub here on our Earth to do very naughty things. So please come on down Jesus, you got a little bizness to attend to. While you're at it up there, drop on over to Hercule's place and see if he won't join you down here for a little good clean fun. The more the merrier. A work party. Roll up yer sleeves and enjoy a little horseplay with us. We've got a Hell of a mean spirited ol mess risin bout our necks. Stinks ta high heavin, the Seven Augean Stables need ta be shoveled out agin, up to our ears in it. Hercs good at that. Bout ta drown in ol Satan's spawn. Herc, bring a good hemp rope halter ta hoof em all out with and tie em to a tree. With your spirit Jesus, we can get this done easy as pie. Got a little cleanin up ta do. Times a wastin. Let's git it on. Glad ta lend a hand.
Yours Truly In Spirit, bob

SEEK THE TRUTH. LIVE BY IT. BE FREE.

copy/paste/send

Bobby Baxter ~ Calculated MilJetGun HCV CrossInfected Veteran
& Marijuana Thought Crime Felon

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The LAST Pre-Papal Project...
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Aug 21, 2007 9:36 AM   
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gee, what are the odds that he 'came out from behind' to become the 'front runner' for the Papal ... dare I call it... position?

“Sex Crimes in the Vatican": BBC & Pope bicker over Policing Sex Abuse by Priests...
”It's all controlled by the Vatican and at the top of the Vatican is the pope so Joseph Ratzinger was in the middle of this for most of the years...

gee, if YOU knew all the DIRT on EVERY PRIEST in the Catholic Church, what do you think are the ODDS that you'd get ALL THE VOTES YOU NEEDED to become POPE?

...speaking of which, you think ROVE might have THE SAME SORT OF TECHNIQUES? gee... nah, THAT could never happen...

...right?



Spread Love...
... but wear the Glove!


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