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Assimilation is a Double-Edged Sword for Immigrants

By Aviva Chomsky, AlterNet. Posted June 26, 2007.


The problem is that, in America assimilation means learning one's place in the nation's racial hierarchy, Aviva Chomsky writes in her new book, They Take Our Jobs! And 20 Other Myths About Immigration.
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The following is an excerpt from, They Take Our Jobs! And 20 Other Myths About Immigration by Aviva Chomsky (Beacon Press, 2007).

In 1993, Toni Morrison wrote, in a special issue of Time magazine on immigration, that the "most enduring and efficient rite of passage into American culture" for immigrants was "negative appraisals of the native-born black population. Only when the lesson of racial estrangement is learned is assimilation complete." Blacks, she said, were permanent noncitizens. "The move into mainstream America always means buying into the notion of American blacks as the real aliens."

Italian, Polish, and Jewish immigrants may not have identified with, or been accepted into, white society when they first arrived in the United States. But they, or more often their children, assimilated by becoming "white" and experienced upward mobility as they melded into the white majority. And part of the assimilation into whiteness meant the adoption of white racial attitudes.

Black Puerto Rican author Piri Thomas described the generational gap among Italians in his Bronx neighborhood in the 1940s: the mothers and grandmothers accepted him as one of their own while the new generation attacked him as a "spic." One of the Italian boys speculated that if Piri had a sister, they could "cover the bitch's face with the flag an' fuck er for old glory," in a graphic rendering of Toni Morrison's point.

James Loewen points out that just as European immigrants moved out of their inner-city enclaves and merged into white America, African Americans were being residentially segregated as the phenomenon of "sundown towns," which explicitly prohibited blacks from remaining in them after the sun set, spread across the country. Assimilation for people of European origin was accompanied by ongoing exclusion of people of color already in the United States.

For immigrants of color, assimilation means something very different than it historically has for European immigrants. For Latin American immigrants, assimilation more often means shedding their American dream and joining the lowest rungs in a caste-like society where Native Americans and African Americans, the most "assimilated" people of color, have been consistently kept at the bottom. When Haitian immigrants assimilate, explains one study, "they become not generic, mainstream Americans but specifically African Americans and primarily the poor African Americans most vulnerable to American racism."

As Toni Morrison suggested, racial inequality is so deeply embedded in the national culture and social fabric of the United States that assimilation has historically meant finding, learning, and accepting one's place in the racial order. If new immigrants could succeed in challenging and transforming the racial order of the United States, that would be a good thing. But the signs do not point in that direction. The current anti-immigrant sentiment reinforces racial inequality.

The United States, as we have seen, defined itself from the first as a white, Anglo-Saxon country. Africans and Native Americans may have lived in the territories claimed by the United States, but they were not citizens. The Mexicans--primarily people of Spanish and Native American origin--who were added to the U.S. population with the 1848 conquest were granted citizenship, of a sort--but without shaking the firmly held idea that the United States was an Anglo-Saxon country.

The new, non-Anglo-Saxon immigrants, starting with the Irish in the 1850s and growing with the southern and eastern Europeans from the 1870s on, were neither Anglo-Saxons nor people of color. Many of these new European immigrants came from nations that Anglo-Saxons considered inferior, and many of them came from peoples without states. They were oppressed minorities in the countries or empires they came from. Many came from the Ottoman Empire or the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Many were Irish, from a land controlled by England, or they were Jews from Eastern Europe. Some were southern Italians, in a country only just unified, where the South was economically dependent on the North.

When European immigrants assimilated, they joined white society in social and cultural terms. Obviously, the color of their skin did not change--but the category of "white" expanded from its former association with Anglo-Saxons to include these newcomers. Anglo-Saxonism was fundamentally based on the domination of Africans, Native Americans, and Asians, and the institutions and ideologies of the United States reflected this reality. Southern and eastern Europeans were not originally part of this racial dynamic. Assimilating into it meant accepting it and identifying with the racial inequality it entailed--insisting, successfully, on their place among whites.

When Asian and Latino immigrants assimilate, they also assimilate to the United States racial hierarchy, but in a different way. Very few of them can cross the line into whiteness. Instead, they assimilate by becoming people of color in a racially divided society. Assimilation, instead of bringing upward mobility, brings downward mobility. Of course there are exceptions, but overwhelmingly, the social and economic statistics have told the same dreary story for many generations: blacks, Hispanics, and Native Americans are at the bottom of the social hierarchy, even--perhaps especially--those whose ancestors have the longest presence in the country. It's not lack of assimilation that keeps them marginalized--it's assimilation itself.

The relationship between assimilation and downward mobility has been especially noted in studies of schoolchildren. Education professor Marcelo Suárez-Orozco conducted two major studies of Latino adolescents in which he found that the most recent immigrants tended to be the students with the highest aspirations and the strongest belief in the American dream. This was because, as immigrants, they were not yet educated into the U.S. racial order. Teachers consistently reported on new immigrants' commitment to education, their work ethic, and their respect for their teachers. As they became more Americanized, they entered an oppositional inner-city teenage culture that valued money, drugs, and reckless behaviors defined as cool--the opposite of the hopeful and hard-working recent arrivals.

Over time new immigrants lost their optimism. They became acculturated by becoming aware of the long-standing historical place of Latinos in U.S. society. They realized that education was not the solution they had originally believed it was. In fact, studies have shown that the higher the educational level, the greater the income disparity between whites and nonwhites in U.S. society. Rather than leveling the playing field, educational achievement maintains or even exacerbates inequalities.

Although students of color may not be aware of the statistics, their decisions seem to reflect a larger awareness that education is not an automatic ticket to the American dream. A 2000 study found graduation rates to be 76 percent for white students, 57 percent for Native Americans, 55 percent for African Americans, and 53 percent for Hispanics. The newest immigrants look a lot like the oldest "foreigners" in the United States in terms of social status. Unlike whole generations of European immigrants, no amount of assimilation will ever make them white.

Like earlier generations of immigrants, those arriving today still see learning English as crucial to survival and success. But new immigrants also become aware that learning to speak English will not resolve the problems of race. Native Americans and African Americans are native speakers of English--but this has not helped them to assimilate into a U.S. society that still in many ways defines itself as white.

Of all Latino groups in the United States, it's Puerto Ricans who are the most assimilated. All Puerto Ricans have been citizens since 1917. Puerto Ricans tend to know English, and to speak English as their primary language, at much higher rates than other Latinos. Puerto Ricans also have a huge advantage over other immigrants because their citizenship status makes them eligible for public social services and gives them the automatic right to work, rights that many immigrants from other parts of Latin America lack.

Although Mexican nationals are not automatically citizens the way Puerto Ricans are, Mexicans have the longest history in the United States of any Latino group. Mexicans residing in the territories taken by the United States in 1848 were granted citizenship, and Mexicans have been migrating into the United States for a longer time than any other group.

Yet Mexicans and Puerto Ricans have the highest poverty rates of any group of Latinos in the United States. Cubans, the vast majority of whom came to the United States after 1959, Dominicans, who started coming in large numbers in the 1970s, and Central Americans, whose massive migration dates to the 1980s, all have much lower poverty rates: 24.1 percent of Mexicans and 23.7 percent of Puerto Ricans in the United States lived below the poverty line in 2003, while only 14.4 percent of Cubans did.

In an interesting study of black West Indian immigrants, Mary Waters found that "immigrants and their children do better economically by maintaining a strong ethnic identity and culture and by resisting American cultural and identity influences . . . those who resist becoming American do well and those who lose their immigrant ethnic distinctiveness become downwardly mobile . . . When West Indians lose their distinctiveness as immigrants or ethnics they become not just Americans, but black Americans."

The picture is clear. Immigrants of color do assimilate into U.S. society, but, in contrast to white immigrants, for people of color assimilation means downward mobility. Assimilation means learning the racial order of the United States, and for people of color it means joining the lower ranks of that racial order. The association often made between assimilation and upward mobility is based on the experience of white immigrants. For immigrants of color, the trajectory of assimilation is a very different one.

Reprinted from
They Take Our Jobs! And 20 Other Myths about Immigration by Aviva Chomsky Copyright © 2007 by permission of Beacon Press, www.beacon.org

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Aviva Chomsky is a scholar of the history of Latin America and the Caribbean at Salem State College.

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Time will tell!
Posted by: Temporary on Jun 26, 2007 12:25 AM   
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Time will tell, but i seriously doubt America can absorb 300-million people. It had troubels absorbing 100-million people back in the 1800's, and only endless world wars could keep the populas together supporting the patriotic "American dream" I have a feeling, that not even a world war at this point will be enough. Things have moved to the point of no return!

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» RE: Time will tell! Posted by: albrechtkrausse
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It’s been my observation that
Posted by: White middleclass male on Jun 26, 2007 1:21 AM   
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Jews and Asians are among the least assimilated groups in America. Why do they do disproportionately well compared to their Anglo counterparts? Could it have anything to do with a culture that values education and hard work?

Go to a high school and tell me who makes up the computer science club, Future Business Leaders of America, and the AP classes. Then tell me who is on the sports teams and who has a child in the day care*.

*Google Eau Gallie high school. There was a day care for the students that had about 30 children in it in 2000.

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» Jews and Asians Posted by: vangogh69
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» RE: Jews and Asians Posted by: sterlingdave54
» RE: Jews and Asians Posted by: sterlingdave54
The future will be a Darwinian, dystopic racial/ethnic dog fight
Posted by: Bobsays on Jun 26, 2007 1:31 AM   
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I am afraid this experiment (never tried in human history) to melt together the most diverse society ever, will in fact result in increasing conflict. Already, race and ethnicity define job opportunities and where you live. That can only get worse as the immigrant population continues to grow and become more and more chaotic, with legal status ambigious.

The anglo-saxon ethos is what keeps the US state together and gets the country through another day. But if that is ripped to pieces and is allowed to fall apart, then you will get competing attitudes and philosophies that will bring further instability.

We already see this in the concept of community harmony and duty. Anglo saxon culture sees community charity as very important and that opportunities should go to the best person (ahead of family and group loyalties). This is not a given in many other cultures, where opportunity must first be given to family and friend networks only. Chinese culture is a good example of this. And while the Chinese are busy giving jobs to their friends and family, they are not going to give an opportunity to a well-educated black single mom. But an anglo saxon just might because they wouldn't first eliminate this person because they aren't related or friends.

Uncomfortable truths that must be considered I am afraid.

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» Anglo-Saxons Posted by: vangogh69
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"We've got to eliminate the gringo" is NOT exactly "kumbaya," you cowards.
Posted by: Pat Kittle on Jun 26, 2007 2:11 AM   
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Yet another bleeding-heart liberal lament for the poor well-intended noble immigrant.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, this is what the immigrants really think.

In case you can't be bothered to open the link, here's a sample:

"We have an aging white America.They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population... I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it.", "We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
-- [Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas.Reference]

"We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos...non-Latinos aren't watching, they aren't raising questions."
-- [Fernando Guerra, professor, Loyola Marymount]

"Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. .. Through love of having children, we are going to take over."
-- Augustin Cebeda, Brown Berets.


Long ago I took overpopulation seriously enough that I had no kids, and I got a vasectomy, and now these arrogant ignoramuses think I'm a fool because they're going to outbreed everyone else in their moronic lust for power, and AlterNet cowards are too damn wimpy to say a damn thing about it.

I've exposed this cynical reconquista demographic warfare crap for a long enough time now that these AlterNet hypocrites can no longer pretend they are unaware of it.

They know know damn well what the reconquista agenda is by now -- they're just too cowardly to confront it. And then they have the gall to talk about "racism" and "environmental sustainability"!

Cowards!!

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» Illegals would be a non issue if... Posted by: White middleclass male
» Who said I support European immigrants? Posted by: White middleclass male
» It is not about race Posted by: Bobsays
» RE:I read the quotes. Posted by: imcnotu
» RE: I got your back. Posted by: imcnotu
» Third world hell holes... Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» Um, California... Posted by: vangogh69
» RE: Third world hell holes... Posted by: Trincanadimerican
From "Gangs of New York"
Posted by: White middleclass male on Jun 26, 2007 2:41 AM   
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“What a white man used to get paid a quarter for, a nigger would do for a dime, and an Irishman will do for a penny”

Let us not pretend the white European immigrants were welcome with open arms.

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The Fine Points
Posted by: dlf on Jun 26, 2007 6:13 AM   
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of this conversation seem to be getting lost in just making a point. But I think the author is wrong when she speaks of Hispanic assimilation. She obviously hasn't been to a movie, or watched television in some time. Nearly every Hispanic character in either medium is partnered with a White person. This is the beginning of assimilation, when people can not distinguish between cultures the process has begun. It is exactly how other caucasians were assimilated into mainstream culture, and with the exception of those Hispanics who are visibly Black, it will be how those who are not are accepted into mainstream culture. Most Americans understanding of the immigrant experience (historically) is not very studied. I know a man in his late 50's that wasn't aware that his Italian ancestors weren't considered White, but caucasian. The distinction may not mean much today, but it meant a great deal during that time. If we were taught actual American history in school, rather than great White accomplishments this country would be farther along in its quest for racial equality. Not until one of these discussions can be centered in history, and stay there, will it ever have any real meaning.

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Great article
Posted by: daw13 on Jun 26, 2007 6:24 AM   
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and right on target. White supremacy is a fundamental mechanicsm of social control in the United States. Little white people accept it as a pathetic reward for not asserting their right to be better than bullies. How sad, and how addictive. Hence the angry denial expressed in many of the comments above.

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» RE: Great article Posted by: Logic's Edge
Illegal immigrants taking our jobs is a MYTH?
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 26, 2007 6:26 AM   
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If that's true, I must be living in a dream world. Here in Southern California, construction jobs are being gobbled up by illegal aliens.

Or is that just my imagination?

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» And, of course ... Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: And, of course ... Posted by: djnoll
» If you decide not to build it... Posted by: eddie torres
Just Speak English
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Jun 26, 2007 6:52 AM   
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Just Speak English and that will solve some of the racism/classism issues.

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» RE: Just Speak English Posted by: Joshua Holland
» for joshua Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» RE: for joshua Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Just Speak English--Really Josh? Posted by: apophenia_monkey
» RE: Just Speak English--Really Josh? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Joshua- where do you live? Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» RE: Joshua- where do you live? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Both Posted by: imcnotu
Respect for elders...
Posted by: SteveB on Jun 26, 2007 7:14 AM   
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Teachers consistently reported on new immigrants' commitment to education, their work ethic, and their respect for their teachers. As they became more Americanized, they entered an oppositional inner-city teenage culture that valued money, drugs, and reckless behaviors defined as cool--the opposite of the hopeful and hard-working recent arrivals.

My only disagreement with the above paragraph is the claim that "oppositional teenage culture" is something that is unique to the "inner city."

America has a youth-worshipping culture that consistently denigrates age and has no respect for elders. Many immigrants come from countries where age is respected. When they come to the US, they learn that the elderly, once past their usefulness to Capitalism, are to be discarded and ignored, that consumption is the highest virtue, that people who value reading and ideas are nerds, etc. Go into any suburban high school and you'll find these attitudes are dominant.

One of the great ironies of our current immigration "debate" is that many "conservatives" practice immigrant-bashing in the name of preserving "traditional values", while the immigrants they attack are some of the greatest believers in those values. If they made the effort to learn more about immigrant culture, many elderly American immigrant-haters would find that they have more in common with immigrants than with their own grandchildren.

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» Pat Attacking me won't... Posted by: poppop_schell
» pat: no!! AND... Posted by: poppop_schell
» Respect for elders... Posted by: veggiegrrrl
American society is still the most upwardly mobile in the world even...
Posted by: poppop_schell on Jun 26, 2007 7:18 AM   
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if we have some problems to oslve as mentioned by the author. Why is heavens name do people want to come to America if we are so class concious and have rigid social structure? Get real!!!

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The Myth of Immigrant Criminality
Posted by: fanny666 on Jun 26, 2007 9:19 AM   
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Way to go, Aviva! You have fantastic genes.

This report is worth reading:

The Paradox of Assimilation And The Myth of Immigrant Criminality

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» "Genes" are not the cause. Posted by: albrechtkrausse
That is a great insight Aviva
Posted by: Earthian on Jun 26, 2007 9:27 AM   
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I like the key insight that assimilation itself is downward mobility for some. I look forward to reading the whole book. Thanks for the great insights. We have to understand the problems of assimilation, racism, lack of investment in the less-priveleged and immigration before we can fix them. Bravo!

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To those who say go back to your home land......
Posted by: mobile68 on Jun 26, 2007 10:54 AM   
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Maybe indigenous people of color who are/or were the majority in countries, particularly those with rich natual resources, like New Zealand, Australia, Africa, Indonesia, all of the Middle Eastern countries, particularly Israel, South and North America, should had considered adopting immigration laws in their countries centuries ago instead being hospitable to the newcomers, because you know what happens when you be nice to a guest and you turn your back on them....

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» Go back to where?!?!? Posted by: veggiegrrrl
The way i see it...
Posted by: Temporary on Jun 26, 2007 1:18 PM   
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America only has the option of excepting it's true nature as a multicultural nation! Ironicly thats one things wich i and Bush actually CAN agree on!

It's already a DE FACTO reality!


The alternative...looking for answers from the past!?

To make a long story short;BAD IDEA!

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» RE: The way i see it... Posted by: MindyB
» Mindy- this is nonsense Posted by: veggiegrrrl
It's about money and greed, primarily
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jun 26, 2007 1:21 PM   
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Look - in today's America, you can become a filthy rich slimeball of any color. Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice and Alberto Gonzales are proof of that. It is still harder to do if your skin is the wrong color, but you can always go for the 'token minority' position. The key thing is to be greedy, dishonest and loyal to your boss - that, and a history as a good, do-anything, team-playing intern, will get your foot in the door.

The same was true back on the slave plantation. If you were willing to lash your fellow slaves if the Master ordered it, you got a better position with benefits - you could be an overseer.

Now, would the Master rather hire a slave (well, no hiring necessary, in that case), an illegal immigrant, or a US citizen? Illegal immigrants are just one step up from slaves - they can be paid less, and they can be turned in to the police for deportation if they cause any problems, or if they complain about working conditions.

This all creates a big problem for conservatives. On the one hand, they like to play the race card and whip up anti-immigrant hysteria as a way of winning votes from the 'white vote' (generally, the poor, rural white vote). On the other hand, their wealthy corporate friends definitely prefer cheap domestic labor, even if it's still more expensive than overseas labor. Illegal immigration keeps wages low across the board - a situation that corporate bosses just love.

It's just a replay of the Old South plantation system - a handful of aristocratic landowners and slaveowners lived like kings, while surrounded by much greater numbers of poverty-stricken whites and blacks. As long as the poor blacks and poor whites hated and feared one another, the plantation owner's position was secure. Educating a slave was a criminal offense, and educating poor whites was not encouraged. This ended up creating a real caste system in the Old South.

Conservatives must know this, but they don't like to admit it.

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Assimilation to your new surroundings is CRUCIAL to success.
Posted by: Fade on Jun 26, 2007 2:07 PM   
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This is totally Backwards. In my West Texas town, the poorest people are the mexicans who cant speak English. Those are on the lowest rung on the ladder. If you cant function properly with those who are already established, you will fail. Period. Assimilation and Integration is key to success in any new environment, all racial issues aside. If I move to Japan, should I assimilate to fit in? Of course.

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» Mindy... Posted by: veggiegrrrl
assimilation and a common language
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Jun 26, 2007 4:26 PM   
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assimilation and a common language

so, the goal is a more egalitarian society. this requires a common understanding, a common language so all persons from every nation on earth can come to the USA and participate in education, employment, etc...

so, which language do we choose here in san francisco? chinese? korean? arabic? hindi? spanish? english?

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» That's Never Been the Goal Posted by: apophenia_monkey
» RE: That's Never Been the Goal Posted by: Tacticsb
No assimilation?
Posted by: Logic's Edge on Jun 26, 2007 7:19 PM   
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If immigrants just arrive and form their own communities, then what is the difference between that and outright carving off pieces of the country and handing them out to other countries? If the only ties between a "white" community and an immigrant community are economic, in this era of globalization, is there any difference?

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» RE: No assimilation? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Australian but English Speaking Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» RE: Australian but English Speaking Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: No assimilation? Posted by: Logic's Edge
Why does the author quickly gloss over Asians in her victimhood lament?
Posted by: Pat Kittle on Jun 27, 2007 10:21 PM   
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If the US is so impossibly racist, answer this:

Why are East-Asian Americans more successful (by prevailing standards of "success") than European-Americans?

Their original languages don't even share our alphabet, and still they succeed!

I've asked this question many times. Will YOU be the first to answer it? :-)

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» Fuck off child molester..... Posted by: ekipnrut
» Does that work both ways? Posted by: Pat Kittle
The immigration bill was defeated again.
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Jun 28, 2007 7:46 PM   
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The immigration bill was defeated again. I wonder if the Senators had concerns about assimilation?

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This article saddly tells the truth of America's "true colors"!
Posted by: MindyB on Jun 28, 2007 10:52 PM   
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Not sure what "space" and "enough land" has to do with the issue at hand, although I know that there is a group of xenophobic ignoramus who don't know the amount of land the US land has--which is huge, and there is still plenty of land open for development and growth.

In any event, this article is sadly accurate in depicting one of the ugliest sides of the "great" United States of America, where everything revolves around race and/or ethnicity, and has little or nothing to do with "jobs", "enough space", "learning English", or even the legality of people's immigration status. This country is racist, it has been racist since the begining, and continues to be so.

This immigraition issue is a perfect example. Even though out of the estimated 8-12million undocumented immigrants only about 47% are from Mexico and other Latin American countries, and the rest comming from Europe, Africa and Asia, the main focus has been against Mexicans. Immigration raids go after the "brown" faced immigrant, they go to places where primarily Mexicans work. The anti-immigration propaganda focuses on Mexicans as the villains, claim that soon Spanish will take over as the main language of this coutry (so stupid its laughable). Why haven't we heard much about the millions of white unoducmented immigrants living here, and hiding very well because of the color of their skin and their ability to speak english by vitrue of where they came from!
The villains are not the hard working immigrants, the villains are all the Americans who feel superior to the rest.
And once again, I am ashamed to be American and to have been born in a land where greed, racism, selfishness and ego control our society.
(yeah, yeah, I can just hear those of you ignoramus say the typical statement "oh yeah? well then go someplace else!" )

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Aviva Chomsky (author of this article), read all these comments...
Posted by: Pat Kittle on Jun 30, 2007 2:38 PM   
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Do your pro-mass-immigration buddies here embarrass you at all?

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Chomsky's Article is Completely Wrong
Posted by: faultroy on Jul 8, 2007 4:39 PM   
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Chomsky states that immigrants of color actually decline in prosperity--nothing could be further from the truth. Chomsky makes reference to American Indians and blacks as examples of two races that have a proven history of repression and inability to integrate into white society and therefore become "assimilated." There is no evidence of this.
Furthermore there is absolutely no evidence indicating that various ethnicities even want "white assimilation." Take for example oriental cultures. There is a strong desire for preserving their cultural identities and practices including their social mores.
With respect to American Indians, we have to keep in mind that by far the majority have asssimilated into white society, and while I know many of them, unless they specifically bring it up, one would not know they were American Indian. Chomsky is confusing general American integration with the problems and rampant proverty of reservation indians. Many most Indians do not live on the reservation.
I have never spoken to any Asian that has said they have been consistently discriminated against. As a matter of fact, from a purely ethnic standpoint, Asians have one of the highest incomes and education rankings of all ethnicities in the United States--a far cry from the "Cooley Labor" days of the 1800's.
The situation changes with Black Americans--however let us note that 50 per cent of Black Americans are listed as "middle class"--economically. In the last 40 years, blacks have obtained substantial economic advantages and political advantages. But I would agree that they have not had as easy a time assimilating as other ethnic groups. The problem is that there is a statisically inordinate amount of Blacks in the lower social classes economically. And Jews for example while they can certainly "assimilate," they choose neighborhoods that have high Jewish identities in the cities, and communities with high Jewish presence to join together and create jewish facilities and activities. And of course they purposefully keep their own identities for cultural identfication.
In conclusion, Chomsky's comments while provocative are completely misleading and inaccurate.

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