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Rights and Liberties

Lou Dobbs Persists in Promoting Lies about Immigrant Leprosy Cases

By Mark Potok, Intelligence Report. Posted June 15, 2007.


For more than four years, CNN's Dobbs has spread one one-sided -- and in some cases outright false -- information to attack undocumented migrants.
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Poisonous and untrue propaganda continues to leak into the national dialogue on undocumented migration to the United States.

Secret Mexican conspiracies to take over the American Southwest or merge with Canada and the United States. Murders and drunken-driving deaths caused by "illegal aliens" reaching astounding levels. Emergency rooms in California, overwhelmed by the migrants, going out of business. Jobs stolen and wages lost to the tune of billions. Epidemics of frightening diseases like leprosy.

Where do these ideas come from?

In a surprising number of cases, they are propounded on mainstream cable television and radio shows and are even voiced by national politicians. And these tales are dangerous. When millions of Americans are told by people they trust that immigration from the south is destroying their country, many of them take that as fact. It's no surprise that some even respond with criminal violence.

That's why a debate this spring between the Southern Poverty Law Center and CNN host Lou Dobbs was important. For more than four years now, Dobbs has been delivering almost nightly reports emphasizing that undocumented immigration is harming this country in innumerable ways. On the way, he's managed to spread ideas that are not only one-sided, but in some cases entirely false.

Take leprosy.

On May 6, CBS' 60 Minutes ran a profile of Dobbs in which correspondent Lesley Stahl reported that in 2005, CNN reporter Christine Romans "told Dobbs that there have been 7,000 cases of leprosy in the U.S. in the past three years." Stahl pointed out that the government had actually reported that that was the number of cases in America over 30 years, not three. In the three years referenced by Romans, in fact, the government registered just 398 new cases. "If we reported it, it's a fact," Dobbs responded defiantly. He was asked how he could guarantee that. "Because I'm the managing editor, and that's the way we do business. We don't make up numbers, Lesley. Do we?"

The next night, on his own show, Dobbs, after lambasting me for comments I'd made in Stahl's story, repeated that he stood "100%" behind Romans' report. And he brought back Romans, who said: "I was quoting from Dr. Madeleine Cosman, a respected medical lawyer and medical historian ... : 'Suddenly, in the past three years, America has more than 7,000 cases of leprosy.'"

On May 15, SPLC ran ads in The New York Times and USA Today asking that CNN retract Dobbs' false leprosy claim, as Dobbs himself refused to. The following day, SPLC President Richard Cohen and I were invited on Dobbs' show, presumably to argue out the veracity of Romans' claim.

What we were met with was a classic bait and switch.

Just before the debate, Dobbs ran a taped piece that made an entirely new set of claims. Now Dobbs said that new cases had "risen" to 166 in 2005. He insisted that "we did not say there were [7,000] new cases at any time." And then, bizarrely, he reran the clip of Romans saying, on May 7, that "there were about 900 cases of leprosy for 40 years. There have been 7,000 in the past three years."

Dobbs also now claimed that Romans' reporting had always been based on statistics from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. But that was simply false. As Romans had made crystal clear in her own comments, the report was based entirely on Cosman, the "respected" lawyer and historian. Cosman, who died last year, was no "doctor" -- she had a Ph.D. in literature. And she was hardly a "respected" authority on disease and immigrants. In fact, she was a wild-eyed propagandist who has made a series of charges about Latino men heading north, including this one from 2005: "Most of these bastards molest girls under 12, although some specialize in boys, and some in nuns." Cosman also lied about a 1976 book she wrote being nominated for the Pulitzer Prize and the National Book Award.

The importance of this debate went far beyond Dobbs' refusal to accept responsibility for a clear and egregious error. As Cohen wrote to CNN President Jonathan Klein: "This is hardly the first time that Mr. Dobbs has chosen to rely on dubious sources with a virulent anti-immigrant agenda."

If Americans are to sort out the mess that immigration policy has become, they need to know the facts of the situation. Misleading and false propaganda from the likes of Lou Dobbs, who works for a respected news operation, can only poison the debate and demonize a huge number of people in the process.

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Mark Potok is the editor of the Intelligence Report.

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I've Never Heard This
Posted by: dlf on Jun 15, 2007 8:24 AM   
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But I have heard about the increase in TB which, had been virtually eradicated in this country before the great migration.
Reasons For The Increase From the Mayo Clinic:
Increased numbers of foreign-born nationals. Although TB rates for people born in the United States are declining, the incidence among people from other parts of the world, especially Africa, Asia and Latin America, is increasing. More than half of the reported TB cases in the United States are in people born outside the country.
Increased poverty and lack of access to medical care. The world's poor, in America and in other countries, are more likely to have TB but the least likely to receive medical care. The problem is compounded because people living in poverty and in unstable political situations often move or migrate and therefore may not complete their treatment, leading to drug-resistant forms of the disease.

TB is also now the leading cause of death among those with HIV/AIDS. It is the one disease man can spread to animals. And it is most virulent when people live in crowded spaces have it.

These are all good reasons to have an immigration policy that is tyed to health issues. I recall when it was widely reported that Haitians carried the AIDS virus, a majority of Americans were in favor of our stop them in the ocean policy. And as far as I can tell many still are. I imagine many presuppose Haitians and Africans are AIDS carriers and are perfectly happy to keep them out. Whatever the reason it certainly isn't part of the "comprehensive" immigration debate.

I would expect this site to zero in on Lou Dobbs, I expect he will be called all the usual names, and I expect that the wider issues will continue to be muted by those doing all the name-calling.

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Drunk driving
Posted by: YogiBear on Jun 15, 2007 9:16 AM   
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I heard this claim originally by Latino advocates trying to get migrants to better fit into our culture. They also told me they had an issue with Mexican men being chauvinistic. They said these were social issues that could be ammended.

I guess not. I guess they simply watched too much Lou Dobbs!

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Hanson's Disease (leprosy) is easily treatable now
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Jun 15, 2007 10:01 AM   
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and would be no big deal anyway. Yes, Dobbs is hurting his own general argument by faking statistics and flinging around the biblical term "leprosy" to mislead his audience.

Tuberculosis, however...

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delta15
Posted by: 15delta on Jun 15, 2007 10:22 AM   
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I have written Dobbs several times about his commenting on the illegal.
Never once has he answered my question about all the illegal in Iraq and Vietnam fighting for this country?
I was in Vietnam I know they have served. In fact I had a crewmember as a linguist on our flight crew, which is as important a job as a pilot hitting his target.
Of course the reward would be first in line for papers when they returned, if they in fact make it.
Lou has declined to answer my questions and many more.
He has falsely said too many things that he cannot back up as far as immigrants working here. And I can prove he is lying on so many immigration subjects.
Of course he has the mike and powerful station to spread all his lies. CNN should make him back up his claims, besides using his pals, and cutting all off that disagree with him.
Kind of like "The Mouth" “O'Reilly”.
And his little smirk on his face says it all, or as Jeraldo said: Lou is at the bottom of the barrel or work list and ready to be expired from CNN, so this is his last chance to make a name for himself

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» RE: delta15 Posted by: Libsrule
Don't believe the UN, WHO, CDC, EU! Believe the Southern Poverty Law Center who
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Jun 15, 2007 10:57 AM   
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are the actual scientists, doctors, and medical experts! Just a few, small examples but it is very easy from legitimate sources to find information the prevalence of diseases in certain countries, documented cases where immigrants have spread diseases (recall when Europeans came to America or the flu pandemics of the past), and regulations countries have (including Mexico) on immigrants/travelers to their own countries.
TB: linked text

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Malaria: linked text

HIV/AIDS: linked text

DUIs: linked text

ps: don't forget the serial killer Angel Maturino Reséndiz, aka "Railroad Killer" was an illegal alien. How many deaths are 'acceptable' so that the rich get their tables bussed, their nannys, their lawns mowed, and their mansions cleaned cheaply (not to mention the cheap labour for corporate agriculture?
linked text

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lies and liars
Posted by: Doubtom on Jun 15, 2007 12:55 PM   
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If you're looking to label anyone a liar you'd do better to go after any member of this administration and stay off Lou Dobbs. Dobbs has consistently portrayed the illegal immigration issue as it is, while most have either ignored it completely or danced around the issue; and while you may well be able to refute some point he may have made that hardly qualifies him as a liar.

Would that idiotBush were guilty of only one lie!!!

I noticed that you didn't take issue with any of his other points on overcrowded schools, hospitals, gangs, graffitti etc..

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This is so old
Posted by: TheCount on Jun 15, 2007 1:25 PM   
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This is a rehashed story that occured years ago. I don't agree with everything Dobbs says, but he is very refreshing for a news commentator. Give us a real story, (if you have one?)

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Illegal immigrant voices
Posted by: Doubtom on Jun 15, 2007 2:21 PM   
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You say the there was no pro-immigration voices speaking during the debate among the politicians. Well, what exactly would an illegal immigrant have to say and what right does he have to any forum in the nation whose laws he has flaunted or ignored? What right does this illegal immigrant have to march while displaying the flag of his native country, (which he has abandoned to the forces of corruption) and demand anything from the nation to which he has no allegiance or rights of citizenship.
Despite the best efforts of the ACLU and La Raza, these illegal immigrants do not have the right, either to demonstrate or demand anything of the host nation they have invaded. Whatever rights we enjoy, do not extend beyond our borders and they certainly are not conferred automatically on law-breakers of alien origin.
A few people crossing the border illegally may be a problem for the Border Patrol but when they cross in the millions that is an invasion pure and simple! And invasion is an act of war!
Whatever demonstration these illegal immigrants feel entitled to, have to be directed to the government of Mexico. They are not the responsibility of the American taxpayer!

And this is not even treating the issue of assimilation, overcrowding of hospitals and schools, the requirement of dual language and the printing of ballots in Spanish etc. etc.

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DOES ANYONE HERE WATCH LOU DOBBS?
Posted by: DinTN on Jun 15, 2007 2:59 PM   
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If you actually WATCHED Lou Dobbs, you would have seen the episode where he was in fact confronted by the people saying this about him, you would have seen actual proof that he has IN FACT only mentioned leprocy in that ONE BROADCAST.
Lou Dobbs has always proven claims against him with actual FACT that he backs up!
What's AlterNet so afraid of? The truth?

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» RE: DOES ANYONE HERE WATCH LOU DOBBS? Posted by: pass the ammo
slider
Posted by: pass the ammo on Jun 15, 2007 3:55 PM   
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Another thing that Lou has done that I don't hear anyone calling him on is his demanding the release of the two Border Guards who shot the drug dealer in the back. He didn't know the facts, but he knew with the large percent of closed minded citizens in our country he would get good ratings from the devisive issue by calling the District Attorney corrupt. He creates mob mentality for personal gain.

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» RE: slider Posted by: Libsrule
» RE: slider Posted by: DinTN
Very interesting
Posted by: Cruella on Jun 15, 2007 5:46 PM   
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Actually the comments are even more revealing than the original story. None of them contain a link to data proving any particular problem has any relationship to illegal immigration. Maybe I'm just weird but when I hear about people with TB and leprosy, actually I want them brought to my country (UK) because at least we have proper healthcare. I can't bear to think of people suffering these illnesses without access to medicines. And without proper medical attention the contagiousness of the diseases becomes a huge problem for the whole community.

Sadly my country is as over-run with phoney migrant-paranoia as yours. We are even refusing to let a legal immigrant back in the country at the moment because his visa ran out while he was illegally detained and probably tortured in Guantanamo Bay.

People are in such a hurry to look for differences. We're all human and we all live on the same planet - some people seem to have forgotten this.

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» Cool -- you want 'm, Posted by: illit
Dobbs-a-phobia
Posted by: karensickler51 on Jun 15, 2007 5:46 PM   
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Although I self identify as a lefty, I do watch Dobbs in order to get another point of view. I do not agree with some of what he says, and his reporting does have a way of racheting up the anxiety level. However with this being said, I believe that Dobbs does his best to present a variety of ideas from several perspectives.

At least he asks questions that no one else seems to be asking...

Immigration reform is complex and the current set of rules that are under consideration will not help. We either need to address the border security issues, or admit that the borders are needless and open things up completely.

Right now the U.S. is trying to have it both ways and it IS hurting many people. Wages in the construction industry have been lowered considerably in the last ten years. I know this personally. In addition, businesses hire people who are here illegally in order to exploit them and pay much lower wages. It is the employers of these folks who should be prosecuted and fined, not the people so desperate for work that they leave their families hundreds of miles away.

Fretting about Dobbs will not help the situation. Pushing for this bill will not help either. Get off your duff and think of something original that will serve the greater good for a change. Anyone can complain!!!!!!!!!!!

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jimzsites
Posted by: Jimzsites on Jun 15, 2007 9:46 PM   
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I find it not only amusing but also ingenious that the author(s) sees no problem in saying that Lou Dobbs misrepresents facts while doing the very same thing.
I am referring to the fact that "undocumented immigrants" is nothing more than the author's smoothing over the FACT that these people ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS.
Such semantic trickery has only one purpose...to "sugar coat" this very real problem in order to promote the writer's particular prejudices and biases.
At least Lou Dobbs' prejudices and biases are FOR America and its Laws, not the CRIMINAL HOARD that constantly invades and is destroying our country.
This invasion is simply economic terrorism that is condoned and promoted by Corporate interests whose only concern is their bottom line.
"America Be Damned" should be emblazoned on all their buildings...for it is their true motto, nay their real self-serving mantra.

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I just don't get it
Posted by: illit on Jun 16, 2007 10:23 AM   
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Are we less racist if we welcome 12-20 million uneducated unskilled brown 'slaves' - oops, I mean obedient low-wage workers?

Has anyone in MSM ever addressed the true cost of this? Will Bush finally accomplish the complete destruction of Social Security?

And other than 'leprosy' , what is said about:
"Lou's Top 5 List

Top 5 Dumbest Things in the Immigration Bill

5) Taxpayers will pay for the immigration lawyers for illegal aliens if working in agriculture.

4) Illegal aliens would be given legal status just one day after their application is filed even if a background check is not completed.

3) Gang members are eligible for amnesty if they renounce their gang status.

2) Borders do not have to be secure before the amnesty program begins.

1) $2,600,000,000,000 -- That is the cost the Heritage Foundation estimates to cover the retirement benefits of 12,000,000 illegal aliens if this amnesty bill becomes law."

This government cannot process a request for a US passport in less than 2 months, how will it ever back-ground check millions??

ENOUGH - simply enforce current law.

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FOLKS LOOK AT THE SOURCE OF THE ATTACK ON DOBBS.
Posted by: poppop_schell on Jun 16, 2007 10:36 AM   
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The SPLC is far from being a truthful, fact finding, objective organization. Do some research on them and specically the author. IMO, you will then really begin to understand the motive behind the attack on Lou Dobbs. Hint: Lou is really shaking up the elites and they are running scared that all too many peole will wake up to the scams that the SPLC and other such groups do to deceive and mislead the American people.

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» RE: You're pathetic and lame Posted by: lessbread
A Response To Lessbread's Argument
Posted by: dlf on Jun 17, 2007 8:22 AM   
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What exactly would be the point of distinguishing between a citizen and all others if the Constitution doesn't recognize a difference? Your reasoning is very selective and that is precisely why it is as flawed as that of GWB. He has presented the American people with a sow's ear bill, and told us it is silk. His logic has been to twist the facts, for instance he admits the government didn't do what it promised to do in several different immigrantion bills, but it WILL do it now. He has used the exact same language that was used before, I know this because I was a thinking adult who had left Hollywood Park racetrack for Belmont Park racetrack during the 80's debacal. Why is that relevant, because Hollywood Park was overrun with illegal immigrants and our (Americans) salaries had dropped around 100.00 per week. At Belmont Park there were Hispanics mostly from Panama, Cuba, and Puerto Rico and they had the rights of citizenship. Our pay was higher, we worked fewer days, and cared for fewer horses than those people in California.

The same stories are being told by people in more industries this time around, and the same baseless arguments are being used to refute personal anecdotes. I am reminded of the many people who refute the systemic presence of racism in this country, because they aren't victims of it. That is just outrageous. How is the virtual blackout of American stories on this issue any different from any other example of propaganda throughout history?

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So?
Posted by: Spock on Jun 17, 2007 9:15 AM   
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What is the point of claim, even proof, that Dobbs is lying? We should permit illegal immigration because few - or none - of illegal aliens from Mexico has leprosy? This amounts to ad hominem attack, proves utterly nothing and is ruinous to cogent debate directed toward problem solving. Do better or have the good grace to be quiet.

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AlterNet's a fine one to denounce "one-sided immigration lies"!
Posted by: Pat Kittle on Jun 17, 2007 2:33 PM   
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Never once has the recognition of ecological limits been raised as AlterNet open-borders devotees shamelessly push their neocon-friendly immigration schmaltz.

I've pointed out repeatedly that BILLIONS of people would like to move here. How would the AlterNet open-borders devotees respond to that?

By ignoring it altogether, and foisting more neocon nonsense on us.

Utterly shameless!

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SPINS FROM ALL SIDES and NOTHING RESOLVED
Posted by: Bozly on Jun 20, 2007 12:59 PM   
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Clamoring DObbs is "lying", is RIDICULOUS and figure that you too have a problem defining ILLEGAL when attached to IMMIGRANTS and FAIL to COMPREHEND the TRUE COST..in "humanitarian" areas as well as for what has INDEED BEEN DETRIMENTAL TO THE LEGAL CITIZENRY OF THE HOMELAND. Stop the nonsense "they only fill jobs no others will take", LOOK AT THE FULL COST FACTORS and consider what LAWS ARE BEING BLINDLY IGNORRED that COULD put a measure of BALANCE and work to all benefits. OUTSOURCING JOBS and SLAVE LABOR COME AT A HIGHER COST THAN SOME REALIZE as they banter the subject about. WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO TAKE IN ALL, especially when THE ACTUAL COST IS FACTUALLY TALLIED and the main ones losing are the LEGAL CITZENS AND RESIDENTS WHO OBEY THE LAWS OF THE LAND (INCLUDING EMPLOYMENT !!!!) GET A REALITY CHECK and then work to a REAL SOLUTION that IS FAIR but mind , need to tend the needs that are IGNORRED of the LEGAL CITIZENRY/residents FIRST/foremost and presently the elected reps are failing in such!!!

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Mexico does have a problem with Leprosy...read the following.
Posted by: Gramma Diana on Jun 20, 2007 1:38 PM   
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International Program Development
Northwestern University
Harris Hall 18
1881 Sheridan Road
Evanston, IL 60208-2225
Tel.: (847) 467-6953
Fax: (847) 491-5434

Northwestern University has been formally affiliated with Universidad Panamericana (Mexico City) (UP) since 2000. We have hosted 4-6 UP students in our clinical electives each year, and 4-6 first and fourth year Northwestern medical students have participated in clinical rotations at UP each year.. UP is affiliated with a number of the major hospitals in Mexico City, including the “national” hospitals (the equivalent of the NIH clinical centers in Bethesda). There are also two new rural clinics in indigenous areas of Central Mexico, where UP students spend their sixth, service-oriented year of medical school. Most of the opportunities available to FSM students would incorporate portions of the UP third and fourth year curriculum, with didactic sessions in a specialty area coupled with afternoon clinical experiences. The curriculum is conducted in Spanish. Public Health research is also available to MPH students. Among the notable aspects of the specialty experiences, there is a dermatology hospital where leprosy and other conditions uncommon in this country are seen on a routine basis.



Here in Arizona we have a problem with illegals driving without a license and without insurance, high rate of hit and run accidents, so just being an illegal is not the only law that they feel they can skip. Some are starting fires at the border to distract the Border Guards; fires at a time that fires can get out of control. So don't tell us that they are all law abiding.

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MAWB
Posted by: marew on Jun 20, 2007 2:23 PM   
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First, allowing the lawbreakers in without giving those waiting patiently in line the first opportunity to move here is WRONG! What if everyone decided what laws they would obey and not obey? I know of a retired British citizen who brings only money into this country, will not take a job away from anybody since he is retired, and owns property in this country on which he pays taxes. But he is only allowed to stay here six months a year. How ridiculous! Also, I have a grandmother who immigrated from London early in the last century through Ellis Island. She had to be checked to make sure she was healthy before she was allowed in. If someone was not healthy, they were not allowed to enter and sent back to wherever they came from. She also had a documented job as a servant girl waiting for her. She was expected to know how to read and write. Why are Hispanics treated better and allowed in easier than Caucasians?

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Mark Potok Persists in Promoting Lies about Lou Dobbs
Posted by: DinTN on Jun 20, 2007 2:58 PM   
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Mark Potok Persists in Promoting Lies about Lou Dobbs.
Yea, that matches the story a little better.

By Mark Potok, "Intelligence" Report....?
Intelligence? Hardly. There's NO SUCH thing as an "undocumented migrant"! Migrants are LEGAL you half-whit.
They're not migrants, they're ILLEGAL ALIENS.
If AlterNet insists on publishing such stupidity written by half-whitted-open-borders-pro-illegal aliens, well I guess I'l just stop reading and subscribing to such nonscence.
Sensible, informed readers clearly see your agenda.

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Lou Dobbs is one of the good guys
Posted by: scruffstuff on Jun 20, 2007 3:58 PM   
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I've watched Lou Dobbs for several years and I'm as far left as one can get. Dobbs asks questions other journalists are afraid to ask. He talks straight. I like him. His views on immigration don't always match my views, but at least he's asking questions; questions not only about immigration, but outsourcing and other areas that are causing the middle class of this country to go extinct. Everyone makes a mistake statistical mistakes occasionally. Dobbs is right more often than not.

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OK, forget the "bad facts", what about the "good facts"!!!!!
Posted by: Prophit on Jun 20, 2007 4:17 PM   
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Here is my question!!!

"Are the 20 million illegals, that are the subject of the new law, here legally or illegally???"

THAT IS THE FRIGGEN QUESTION!!!! I don't care which disease they bring with them, if they come illegally, they are not medically checked out prior to entry, so it doesn't matter, what matters is DID THEY GET HERE BY BREAKING OUR LAWS OR NOT!!!????? ANSWER THAT ONE AND ALL THIS BREW HAHA ABOUT DOBBS IS JUST A DEFLECTION AND DISTRACTION.... THE ISSUES REMAIN... LEGAL VS ILLEGAL....

GOT IT???

There is an old saying "fool me once (1980's under first bush) shame on you, fool me twice SHAME ON ME"!!! You will NEVER FOOL ME AGAIN. NO MORE AMNESTY.... COME THE SAME WAY OUR FOREFATHERS CAME...... LEGALLY!!!!!!!!!!!

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This is just another ADL/SPLC smear job
Posted by: terminus on Jun 21, 2007 12:13 AM   
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Like everything else, viewed through the twisted and agenda-laden goggles of the ADL. The SPLC should be once and for all discredited and shut down. Everyone should ask why the SPLC and the ADL want to destroy the United States of America by trying to force the illegal invaders down our throats using any dirty tactic they can latch on to.

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Unabashed and Shameless Bickering
Posted by: karensickler51 on Jun 21, 2007 10:24 AM   
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I find all of this bickering less than productive in the light of the urgency regarding the issues facing the U.S. at this time.

I find that the necessity to maintain the "homeland", in the manner in which it has "become accustomed", disturbing. Our standard of living has been given to us on the backs of millions of exploited working men and women who have been used to earn the rich unequaled luxury and the poor an unequaled poverty.

The elites have systematically given the working people just enough wealth to keep them wage slaves with no energy or education to do anything else. In addition we, as consumers, have been taught that we must have the best, brightest toys, the latest fashions, and always watch (Survivor or American Idol) our T.V. The public, as a whole, is unthinking and unaware; a giant behemoth lumbering towards the edge of the precipice. We have been bought and sold to the highest bidder, international corporate entities.

The elimination of the middle class (Which, by the way, was invented to protect the rich from the poor in the early eighteen hundreds.)via hiring illegals, increasing HB1 Visas, outsourcing jobs, etc., will eventually bite the elites that are promoting this social experiment. Illegal immigration is a distraction, as is most of what we get that is called information. It is time for a new chapter in American history.

I am quickly reaching the opinion that we should all just let it happen. Let the elites go where their corporate masters lead. In the end, the people will have had enough and chaos and anarchy will end up the rule.

While this will be extremely destructive for many innocent people, eventually we may end up with a real democracy. We surely do not have one now, and have not had one for many years.

VIVA la Revolucion!???

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