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Are Higher Fees for Immigrants a Plan to Stall the Number of Democratic Voters?
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"For immigrants, the price of fully participating in our society would rise by 892 percent," says Larisa Casillas, coordinator of the Bay Area Immigrant Rights Coalition in Oakland. She says the citizenship fee "has been raised six times since 1989 when it was only $60."
"The very first thing Emilio Gonzalez said to us during the rollout of the proposed fee increases is that there's absolutely no politics involved," says Crystal Williams, deputy director of the American Immigration Lawyers Association in Washington, D.C.
Williams is willing to give "the benefit of the doubt" to the Bush-appointed director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, but, she says, "the effect of higher fees is to certainly slow down everything."
"Low-wage earning immigrants would have to save up longer to apply," protests Williams, "possibly put off applying for citizenship a year or more."
Agency officials want to raise the U.S. citizenship application fee from $330 to $595, saying more money is needed to improve its operations and services.
Applicants for legal permanent residency--the first step towards naturalization -- would be hit hardest, with the fee rising from the current $325 to $905.
Fingerprinting and biometrics will cost $80 instead of $10, in addition to other related expenses incurred by applicants; hiring a lawyer adds significantly more. Approval of the new fees won't require Congressional action, just a USCIS executive order after a period of public comment.
The dramatic fee increases "would put the American Dream out of reach of many immigrants," charged Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., chair of the Senate subcommittee on immigration.
Recent immigrants are twice as likely to be poorer than are native U.S. citizens, says a study by the Economic Policy Institute in Washington, D.C., although their poverty rates fell faster than for U.S. natives between 1994 and 2000.
"The USCIS is putting up even more barriers to integration," says Casillas. Congress, she argues, not immigrants, should fund USCIS operations, and with strict audits of its efficiency.
Some critics smell politics in the proposed fee increases because voting rights come with naturalization, and the foreign-born electorate is growing faster than the general U.S. voter population.
The number of foreign-born voters grew by 20 percent between the 1996 and 2000 elections, compared with 1.5 percent for all persons, according to the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey. Once naturalized, voter turnout among the foreign-born is high; 58 percent registered to vote and 87 percent showed up at the polls in 2000.
Most worrisome for the GOP, the party identification of the largest foreign-born group, Latinos, is 58 percent Democratic, 23 percent Republican, even though Latinos tend to be conservative on social issues such as abortion and gay marriage, says a 2005 national survey by the Latino Coalition in Washington, D.C.
Detecting Democratic leanings among new citizens, Republicans in the '90s blasted the Clinton administration for promoting naturalization among immigrants through the Citizenship USA program.
President Clinton, they charged, was speeding up the citizenship process to create more Democratic voters. Now, Republicans could be accused of trying to slow down the increase of those voters.
"Immigration policy has practical political implications," concluded a 2001 paper by the Center for Immigration Studies, which found, for example, that "a generous Hispanic immigration has contributed to a solid Democratic edge with Latinos" the longer they stay in the U.S.
Laws barring non-U.S. citizens from public benefits have driven immigrants to protect themselves by naturalizing in large numbers.
The number of new U.S. citizens jumped in the last few years, from 6.5 million in 1990 to more than 11 million in 2002. About half of all legal immigrants in that decade had naturalized by 2002.
The naturalization rate among Mexicans rose from only 19 percent in 1995 to 34 percent six years later. Among immigrants from other Latin American countries, the rate rose from 40 percent to 58 percent in the same period.
Traditionally high naturalization rates among Asians and Europeans remained steady.
Today, some 8 million permanent residents (those who have been legal immigrants for at least five years) are eligible for citizenship, and they are applying in a hurry.
Citizenship applications nationwide soared 79 percent this January, compared with the same month last year, reports the USCIS. The agency attributes the spike to efforts by immigrants to avoid the proposed higher fees.
However, a self-protective response by immigrants to the national debate over immigration - as in the past -- is most likely also fueling the surge. Republicans are on the losing end this phenomenon too.
A 2006 Pew Hispanic Center survey, for example, showed Latino support for the GOP position on immigration dropping from 25 percent to 16 percent, with the highest loss of support coming from the foreign-born - future voters.
President Bush once declared that the Latino vote was "in play," but studies of voting trends show immigrants-turned-U.S.-citizens tend to identify with Democrats more than with Republicans.
The Center for Immigration Studies found that Latinos identified more with Democrats across all nationality groups, except Cubans, and across nearly all states.
"The gap is even wider among immigrant Latinos who have not yet become citizens. As many of these non-citizens naturalize, the political affiliation of Latinos is likely to shift still further toward the Democratic Party," noted a center study.
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Posted by: Temporary on Mar 3, 2007 12:31 AM
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Posted by: colinmeister on Mar 3, 2007 3:33 AM
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When my new card didn't arrive, I made numerous telephone calls with no result. I was told my card had been sent to me in September, and that it hadn't been returned. I was told I'd have to apply for a replacement, and pay the fee again.
This appears to be a lucrative little scam operated by the federal govenment. Slam the Immigrant for a fee, never send the card, and then slam the immigrant again. A nice little earner, which will soon be much more profitable if the fees are increased. I am wondering if I will be caught by the same scam if I do pay their fee again. Maybe it would be easier to just go home?
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Posted by: Pat Kittle on Mar 3, 2007 6:33 AM
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The author rather selectively quotes the CIS (Center for Immigration Studies). Here's some (CIS) inconvenient truth the author chooses to ignore.
Stopping population growth in the most wasteful country on Earth is a real no-brainer environmental priority. We keep hearing about how serious, say, global warming is and how we better do everything we can to reverse it.
So you'd think it would be at least part of the immigration debate. But noooo, politics trump ecology on the left, just as surely as the right.
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» RE: More Immigrant Bashing!! It Never Ends!!
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» I've covered all this before. Google my name, AlterNet, and whatever subject you want.
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Posted by: djnoll on Mar 3, 2007 10:36 AM
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Why are we worried about how they vote anyway? If Bush has his way, he will get 12 million new voters instantly through his amnesty program. They will maybe not choose to vote Democratic because it is a Republican President who gives them the right to vote and be slaves here in America. Who knows how they will vote, since Republicans in Congress want tighter border controls, a President in the same party does not, and the Democrats just do not seem to care what anyone wants anymore as long as they can be percieved by everyone with an income under $20,000 to be their friend regardless of their nationality. In truth, chances are most of them will not vote anymore than most Americans do not vote.
In this country it used to be that how a person voted once inside the voting booth was private and confidential. Now with electronic databases, exit polling, and vote counting, it is not the case anymore. With a corrupted elections system, who cares how the legal immigrants will vote once they are citizens? No, this is not about legal immigrants, it is about creating the funding necessary to deal with the illegal immigrants and they are making the legal immigrants foot a large part of the bill without even letting them in for 5-10 years because of the paperwork backlog.
This is not a scam because of the way the fees are charged (although that is outrageous), but rather the reasoning behind it. Congress is tying the BushCo slave labor movement up with restrictions on funding, so they have found another way to raise money within DHS. It is just another Bait and Switch tactic from BushCo and the Neo-Cons. It is about cheap, illegal labor vs. competitive legal labor pools with living wages. It is about circumventing Congressional Republicans and Democrats alike. It has very little to do with how a legal immigrant will vote one day. It has everything to do with raising money from people who cannot stand up for themselves and the funding of cheap illegal labor here. If you keep out the legals who want decent wages and allow illegals to continue to pour over our borders flooding our job market, your corporate buddies make a profit and back whatever power play you have planned. Wake UP and smell the roses.
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Posted by: emmanuel_goldstein_fights_fake_lefties on Mar 3, 2007 5:13 PM
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One of our school's professors, a longtime immigration law expert, says that we new grads should get into immigration. He says that there WILL BE an amnesty within a year or two. As a student of history and politics, I agree (even though it would increase future immigration to the detriment of americans).
But he says that immigration lawyers will make a MINT on this new amnesty. He said that he knew immigration lawyers who made MILLIONS on the last amnesty. He said you just learn how to do it and set up the infrastructure and hire and train some workers, and rake in $$$$ on volume.
So, it looks as though immigration law and the nice fat fees for amnesty will be in my future....
I plan on charging 2000 $$ or so for each form. and I will hire college students to deal with the traffic. Only a lawyer can fill out the forms, so the law will protect me from competition.
Ain't I cynical?
But think of how all that money will free up my time to post here on fakeLeft and rightwing websites. So your questing minds will have the opportunity to have access to myvast store of knowledge. Won't that be great?
your humble servant,
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Posted by: Krain61 on Mar 7, 2007 2:49 PM
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I'm told we are. But anyhow if they come legally I have no problem. Because them there not hurting our wages as bad.
In regards to the jump in fee's I think it's justified only because of so many who come here illegally and get free medical which I must pay for and I've been here my entire life. But I think it's unfare to the one's who are coming here legally to get stuck with that high price. Sometimes I read things people post and I see only selfishness in them. If you think about this whole thing with global warming and us being the biggest emmitter and why so many people come here.
We started this free ride with I think carter and then reagan and didn't clinton give it to. These same Presidents gave our jobs away and continue to do so. These 3 subjects are tied together and they'll stay that way.
Immigration {illegal or legal}
Loss of jobs{Out sourcing and lowering our wages}
which also brings down the standard of living
Global warming {This is the one thing I think we could and should change} But with the people in charge it's about money
will keep letting in illegal and stop the legals and keep loosing jobs that pay anything that's considered a living wage while we keep dumping our lot of co2 to make everyone need A/C
which means more electricity and yes will import them A/C from china or have them made in Mexico which is where alot are made now. If Mexico became part of the USA we could then get there wages up which I think would stop alot of the bitching going on here.
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Posted by: colinmeister on Mar 3, 2007 3:33 AM
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When my new card didn't arrive, I made numerous telephone calls with no result. I was told my card had been sent to me in September, and that it hadn't been returned. I was told I'd have to apply for a replacement, and pay the fee again.
This appears to be a lucrative little scam operated by the federal govenment. Slam the Immigrant for a fee, never send the card, and then slam the immigrant again. A nice little earner, which will soon be much more profitable if the fees are increased. I am wondering if I will be caught by the same scam if I do pay their fee again. Maybe it would be easier to just go home?
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Posted by: Pat Kittle on Mar 3, 2007 6:33 AM
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The author rather selectively quotes the CIS (Center for Immigration Studies). Here's some (CIS) inconvenient truth the author chooses to ignore.
Stopping population growth in the most wasteful country on Earth is a real no-brainer environmental priority. We keep hearing about how serious, say, global warming is and how we better do everything we can to reverse it.
So you'd think it would be at least part of the immigration debate. But noooo, politics trump ecology on the left, just as surely as the right.
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» More Immigrant Bashing!! It Never Ends!!
Posted by: Douglas
» RE: More Immigrant Bashing!! It Never Ends!!
Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» They Have Names For People Like You! Nazis! Now You Are Blaming Immigrants For Congressional Pork!
Posted by: Douglas
» RE: They Have Names For People Like You! Nazis! Now You Are Blaming Immigrants For Congressional Pork!
Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» Should Your Parents Have Gotten "Fixed"? The Planet Would Now Be Less Overpopulated By One Person!
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» RE: Should Your Parents Have Gotten "Fixed"? The Planet Would Now Be Less Overpopulated By One Person!
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» Why Am I Not Surprised That You Exempt Yourself? I'll Bet You Even Drive An SUV!
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» RE: Why Am I Not Surprised That You Exempt Yourself? I'll Bet You Even Drive An SUV!
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» RE: Why Am I Not Surprised That You Exempt Yourself? I'll Bet You Even Drive An SUV!
Posted by: Krain61
» RE: Should Your Parents Have Gotten "Fixed"? The Planet Would Now Be Less Overpopulated By One Person!
Posted by: Krain61
» RE: More Immigrant Bashing!! It Never Ends!!
Posted by: Krain61
» I've covered all this before. Google my name, AlterNet, and whatever subject you want.
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Posted by: djnoll on Mar 3, 2007 10:36 AM
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Why are we worried about how they vote anyway? If Bush has his way, he will get 12 million new voters instantly through his amnesty program. They will maybe not choose to vote Democratic because it is a Republican President who gives them the right to vote and be slaves here in America. Who knows how they will vote, since Republicans in Congress want tighter border controls, a President in the same party does not, and the Democrats just do not seem to care what anyone wants anymore as long as they can be percieved by everyone with an income under $20,000 to be their friend regardless of their nationality. In truth, chances are most of them will not vote anymore than most Americans do not vote.
In this country it used to be that how a person voted once inside the voting booth was private and confidential. Now with electronic databases, exit polling, and vote counting, it is not the case anymore. With a corrupted elections system, who cares how the legal immigrants will vote once they are citizens? No, this is not about legal immigrants, it is about creating the funding necessary to deal with the illegal immigrants and they are making the legal immigrants foot a large part of the bill without even letting them in for 5-10 years because of the paperwork backlog.
This is not a scam because of the way the fees are charged (although that is outrageous), but rather the reasoning behind it. Congress is tying the BushCo slave labor movement up with restrictions on funding, so they have found another way to raise money within DHS. It is just another Bait and Switch tactic from BushCo and the Neo-Cons. It is about cheap, illegal labor vs. competitive legal labor pools with living wages. It is about circumventing Congressional Republicans and Democrats alike. It has very little to do with how a legal immigrant will vote one day. It has everything to do with raising money from people who cannot stand up for themselves and the funding of cheap illegal labor here. If you keep out the legals who want decent wages and allow illegals to continue to pour over our borders flooding our job market, your corporate buddies make a profit and back whatever power play you have planned. Wake UP and smell the roses.
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Posted by: emmanuel_goldstein_fights_fake_lefties on Mar 3, 2007 5:13 PM
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One of our school's professors, a longtime immigration law expert, says that we new grads should get into immigration. He says that there WILL BE an amnesty within a year or two. As a student of history and politics, I agree (even though it would increase future immigration to the detriment of americans).
But he says that immigration lawyers will make a MINT on this new amnesty. He said that he knew immigration lawyers who made MILLIONS on the last amnesty. He said you just learn how to do it and set up the infrastructure and hire and train some workers, and rake in $$$$ on volume.
So, it looks as though immigration law and the nice fat fees for amnesty will be in my future....
I plan on charging 2000 $$ or so for each form. and I will hire college students to deal with the traffic. Only a lawyer can fill out the forms, so the law will protect me from competition.
Ain't I cynical?
But think of how all that money will free up my time to post here on fakeLeft and rightwing websites. So your questing minds will have the opportunity to have access to myvast store of knowledge. Won't that be great?
your humble servant,
cry-0-fan
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» I'm glad to see that you've left Marxism behind!
Posted by: ABetterFuture
» I WAS NEVER MARXIST
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» ABetterFuture Wouldn't Know The Difference Between A "Marxist" And . . .
Posted by: Douglas
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Posted by: Krain61 on Mar 7, 2007 2:49 PM
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I'm told we are. But anyhow if they come legally I have no problem. Because them there not hurting our wages as bad.
In regards to the jump in fee's I think it's justified only because of so many who come here illegally and get free medical which I must pay for and I've been here my entire life. But I think it's unfare to the one's who are coming here legally to get stuck with that high price. Sometimes I read things people post and I see only selfishness in them. If you think about this whole thing with global warming and us being the biggest emmitter and why so many people come here.
We started this free ride with I think carter and then reagan and didn't clinton give it to. These same Presidents gave our jobs away and continue to do so. These 3 subjects are tied together and they'll stay that way.
Immigration {illegal or legal}
Loss of jobs{Out sourcing and lowering our wages}
which also brings down the standard of living
Global warming {This is the one thing I think we could and should change} But with the people in charge it's about money
will keep letting in illegal and stop the legals and keep loosing jobs that pay anything that's considered a living wage while we keep dumping our lot of co2 to make everyone need A/C
which means more electricity and yes will import them A/C from china or have them made in Mexico which is where alot are made now. If Mexico became part of the USA we could then get there wages up which I think would stop alot of the bitching going on here.
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