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New Hope For a Woman's Right to Choose

The Hyde Amendment has prevented federal funding of abortion services to low-income women for three decades. Now that its namesake has left Congress, pro-choicers are campaigning to dismantle it.
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As the new members of the 110th Congress took the oath of office Thursday, pro-choice groups saw reason to hope.

Not only will a party more friendly to reproductive privacy control Congress, Thursday's swearing-in ceremonies also meant the official end of the long political career of Rep. Henry Hyde, 82, a Republican from Chicago's northwest suburbs who has carried the legislative torch for the anti-choice movement for more than three decades.

To mark Hyde's retirement, a coalition of pro-choice groups teamed up in October to launch "The Hyde Campaign: 30 Years is Enough," a public relations effort designed to raise awareness about the effects of the 1976 Hyde Amendment, which bars the federal government from funding abortion through Medicaid. The campaign aims to pressure state and federal lawmakers to repeal the public-funding ban.

"It's a real lightning rod for bringing people together to say, 'We're getting rid of him, let's get rid of the amendment as well,'" said Marlene Fried, a board member of the National Network of Abortion Funds, a Boston group that raises money to help low-income women pay for abortions. "It's a great time to make the challenge and to also educate people."

More than 50 groups, including local affiliates of Washington-based NARAL Pro-Choice America and the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, have joined the effort. National Network of Abortion Funds spokesperson Sarah Horsley said the campaign has also generated financial contributions and media coverage about the ban.

The 30 Years is Enough Campaign will continue throughout the year, Horsley said, with coalition members participating in a conference call on Jan. 17 to discuss strategies in the wake of the 2006 midterm elections.

Horsley also cited several upcoming events, including a Jan. 11 discussion about the Hyde Amendment in New York City, a San Francisco pro-choice demonstration on Jan. 20 and a lobbying effort in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 23, the day after the 34th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the landmark case that legalized abortion.

Lobbying Timed to Roe Anniversary

That day, members of the New York-based National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health will hand-deliver to lawmakers more than 2,000 postcards urging the repeal of the Hyde Amendment. Afterwards, the institute and other allies will hold a panel discussion about the impact of the Hyde Amendment on women of color.

In 1976 Hyde spearheaded the "Hyde Amendment," which inspired later laws that expanded the funding ban to additional federal health care programs. Collectively, those laws affect female members of the military and their families, Peace Corps volunteers, federal prisoners, Native Americans, women who receive federal disability payments and some federal employees through restrictions on their health coverage.

The Hyde Amendment has been attached to an annual appropriations bill every year since it was first signed into law and has never been defeated. The current version of the measure makes exceptions for victims of rape and incest and for those whose life is in danger from a physical condition.

The Hyde Amendment survived a court challenge in 1980, when the Supreme Court ruled in Harris v. McRae that federal and state governments are not obligated to provide funds for abortion services.

In the three decades since passage of the Hyde Amendment, between 18 and 35 percent of Medicaid-eligible women who would have had abortions if funding had been available instead carried their pregnancies to term, according to Ipas, an abortion rights group in Chapel Hill, N.C.

Women make up 70 percent of adult beneficiaries of Medicaid, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation in Menlo Park, Calif. In 2004, Medicaid provided health care coverage to 1 in 10 women and 1 in 5 low-income women, according to the center. The program also pays for 37 percent of all births.

An abortion costs an average of $468 in the first trimester and rises to an average of $774 at 16 weeks and $1,179 at 20 weeks, according to a 2005 report from the National Network of Abortion Funds. These figures do not include related costs for travel, accommodations and child care.

States Have Followed

States have followed Hyde's lead over the last three decades. Currently, 33 states ban the use of state funds for abortion except in limited circumstances.

But some activists' expectations are guarded.

"I don't think anyone's thinking that we can just walk into this new Congress and have abortion services be No. 1 on their agendas," said Silvia Henriquez, executive director of the National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health.

The ban affects the most marginalized of women, who vote in relatively low numbers and who have little time to spend lobbying lawmakers for their rights, Fried said. Consequently, lawmakers are under little pressure to bow to their agendas.

Democrats cannot be counted on to repeal the ban, even though the party officially backs abortion rights and claims to support the poor and communities of color, Fried said.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, has not put the issue on her agenda, Fried noted, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, opposes abortion rights.

Democrats Reluctant

The reluctance to repeal the ban reaches into the Democrats' rank and file.

"There are some pretty adamant pro-choice Congress members that just feel strongly that the Hyde Amendment needs to stay in place," an organizer who works for one of the groups involved in the 30 Years is Enough Campaign said on the condition of anonymity. "Some of their answers have been, 'Well, the American public feels that Medicaid is already an entitlement program. If you tie abortion into it, they'll be less inclined to expand Medicaid services.'"

Most national women's rights and reproductive rights groups aren't even pressing the issue, Fried added. Today, the pro-choice movement is focused on preserving the basic legal right to abortion rather than expanding access to it, she added.

Fried and others see the best opportunity for short-term change at the state level.

In Illinois, Iowa, Rhode Island and Wisconsin, local grassroots activists are working to provide fuller coverage for low-income women who seek abortions and who are victims of rape or incest or whose lives are in danger. They hope their efforts will eventually lead to the repeal of their states' versions of the Hyde Amendment.

Activists are further along in Maine, where state legislators have already introduced a bill to repeal the ban. It has the support of Gov. John Baldacci, a Democrat, and leaders in the state Legislature, which is controlled by Democrats.

"The reason we feel optimistic here is the reproductive rights supporters did very well at the ballot box this fall and increased the pro-choice majority in both House and Senate," said Chris Quint, director of public affairs at Planned Parenthood of Northern New England in Williston, Vt. "We felt this was the year to go forward. We felt the stars were in alignment."
Allison Stevens is Washington bureau chief at Women's eNews.
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Equality is a two way street
Posted by: TonyGottlieb on Jan 10, 2007 3:15 AM   
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Terrific! Now with Hyde gone, we can get those deadbeat Dads some brand new rights to choose as well. We won't have to waste so many tax dollars on child support enforcement.

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Abortion and Birth Control?
Posted by: Poe on Jan 10, 2007 5:09 AM   
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In Illinois, Iowa, Rhode Island and Wisconsin, local grassroots activists are working to provide fuller coverage for low-income women who seek abortions and who are victims of rape or incest or whose lives are in danger.

Rape, incest or the health and well being of a women. All good and logical reasons to make sure abortion is a viable, safe, accessible and legal option. I have no problem, as a taxpayer, to support this.

But I question just how many abortions are done not for the reasons above, but because of an irresponsible lifestyle.

How many women get pregnant because they or their partners “choose” not to use any birth control???

There is absolutely no excuse for anybody who is sexually active to not use any form of birth control if they want to avoid pregnancy, STD’s or Aids. None!

As a taxpayer working fifty to sixty hours a week, I'm not thrilled to pay for someone else's birth control.


Poe

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Bombs kill Babies, too.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jan 10, 2007 5:34 AM   
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The congress will not support legal abortion, but will spend billiions to support an illegal war and occupation which has killed hundreds of thousands of babies and children.

Does the exercise of power make less sense than this?

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Curly v Moe
Posted by: TonyGottlieb on Jan 10, 2007 6:10 AM   
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A Constitutionally protected right to become a dead-Beat parent within the confidential relationship between a man and his lawyer.

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Christian Right clowns don't want their tax dollars
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Jan 10, 2007 7:10 AM   
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To go for abortions that they don't believe in. But they're ready and willing to use my tax dollars to support their idiotic, ignorant and plain crappy notions. They demand tax exemptions, which is the same as a tax subsidy since they make full use of government services.

Keep the Hyde Amendment? Good. Get rid of tax exemptions for Church businesses and other obnoxious religious activities.

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A Woman's Right to Choose
Posted by: hennep on Jan 10, 2007 10:26 AM   
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A long time ago i was a catholic and went on an anti abortion march while a (Catholic) high school student, but that's before i had the capacity to think for myself.
The Anti abortion lobby is basically spouting dogma promoted by faith groups which in America should not be enshrined in law (separation of church and state). Abortion is a personal choice of the individual is it not?, if it was totally legal (within medically defined limits) it would not affect any faith group who oppose it, they are not forced to have them just like no one is forced to buy an assault rifle whose purchase is also legal.
Why should a vocal myopic section of society place their faith based view of the world on all denying a real need. Why have most civilized countries an abortion law, well if you deny it it goes under ground and people DIE at the hand of backstreet abortionists. The mindset of those who bomb Abortion clinics and murder their staff are beyond the pale, they say abortion is murder and then commit acts of murder to instill fear in others, not very Christian of them is it?
Is it not better to leave such choices to the individual. Here in the Nederland's and also in the UK abortion is covered by health insurance/NHS as those who need it most are usually the poor/un educated, but then the American system of healthcare is not about health care its about making large amounts of cash and not to improve the health and well being of the people.
You would think that rational beings understand that accidents happen, condoms break, the pill fails, sometimes shit happens and has to be dealt with. Life begins when an embryo can self sustain, until that point its a parasite in its host no matter what the god squad says about it having a soul, its not a viable entity and therefore has no rights apart from what its host gives it.
Is it insane that universal health care is not operational in the USofA, its also insane that you have to work 50-60 hours a week just to survive, under EU law its illegal to work that much but we have less poor and disadvantaged, we have universal health care because we actually understand what you say you live by, all are equal, we care for each other even though there is NO profit in it apart from reducing the frictions within society, we the people for the people is how europe lives to a much greater extent than you americians.

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TO ALL YOU MEN...
Posted by: WitchyNy on Jan 10, 2007 10:40 AM   
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who are so tired of your money going to pay for abortions or child support...how about this.

Anyone who's sperm causes an unwanted pregnancy has comitted a crime against the state.

Three strikes...Castration.
Control your sperm.

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Hurray for these women!!
Posted by: janvdb on Jan 10, 2007 10:51 AM   
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I am going to go give some money to the National Network of Abortion Funds right now.

Jan VanDenBerg

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Isn't it enough?
Posted by: neddelux on Jan 10, 2007 11:32 AM   
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Isn't it enough that women in America are allowed by law to kill their babies? Now they want the rest of us to pay for it?
Here is a novel idea, if all these pro abort groups are so concerned that low income women can get free abortions, why don't they pool their money and efforts to pay for it themselves. This is much fairer than using the power of government to force those of us opposed to murder to contribute to the "choice" of women who wish to end an innocent life.

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I HAVE A SIMPLE SOLUTION!!!!
Posted by: poppop_schell on Jan 10, 2007 12:24 PM   
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For all those who believe in paying for low income abortions, you don't have to change ANY law inclusing Hyde's. Tomorrow, there can be plenty of money to help the poor. HOw?

Simple use your personal money to give to abortion organizations to perform for the poor. This is a moral issue to me and at least 60% of Americans. IF you feel its OK to force me through taxes to pay for what I feel is an immoral act, I will vote with you IF you will vote to allow me to tax you to support my Church. OK?

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Good, less people
Posted by: Ambrose Pare on Jan 10, 2007 7:34 PM   
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Pay for the abortion, or pay the insurance company when the little basterds grow up and steal your car.

If mom and pops have consentual sex and can't understand the concept of birth-control, they're gonna pop out some dumbass kids.

Too many people in this world anyways.

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Just a suggestion...
Posted by: jaby on Jan 10, 2007 10:54 PM   
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but to all of you out there who flip out over the mere suggestion of a man having at least knowledge that his wife, girlfriend, 'buddy' or whatever is pregnant, then don't sleep with tose who don't share your views.

To all those out there who at least want to know, have some say, how about only sleeping with those who think the same way you do?

After reading the replies to this or any other Alternet article dealing in any way that is even tangentially related to abortion, this is the issue that comes up most often, the thing that causes the most arguments and the most ridiculous hyperbole, so lets put a stop to it. This is an issue we can actually solve ourselves.

I mean, we look for people we find attractive to date, we all have some standards, how come this can't be a standard? We ask personal questions all the time? Why not about this? It seems like a good thing to ask, along with the standard rigmarole about STD's and what not. My mom told me that I was old enough to have sex when I stopped being embarrased to buy my own tampons and pads and to go to the gynecologist, and I think something similar could apply here. So, to borrow from Bill Maher, I have a suggestion for a New Rule: If you are too embarrased to ask, like an adult, about your potential opposite-sex-partner's feelings on abortion, then you are not old enough or mature enough to be having sex.

Good? Agreed? Fantastic.

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Abortion hurts
Posted by: Joachim on Jan 24, 2007 12:37 AM   
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a victim of rape or incest is in need of compassionate care
look around - it's there
abortion simply victimizes her again
this merciless industry leaves behind one dead and one wounded
sometimes it leaves two dead
it is the ultimate child abuse
it is the ultimate violent act against innocence
it is driven by greed and fed by lies and despair
There is a better solution
Life and love

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Equality is a two way street
Posted by: TonyGottlieb on Jan 10, 2007 3:15 AM   
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Terrific! Now with Hyde gone, we can get those deadbeat Dads some brand new rights to choose as well. We won't have to waste so many tax dollars on child support enforcement.

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Abortion and Birth Control?
Posted by: Poe on Jan 10, 2007 5:09 AM   
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In Illinois, Iowa, Rhode Island and Wisconsin, local grassroots activists are working to provide fuller coverage for low-income women who seek abortions and who are victims of rape or incest or whose lives are in danger.

Rape, incest or the health and well being of a women. All good and logical reasons to make sure abortion is a viable, safe, accessible and legal option. I have no problem, as a taxpayer, to support this.

But I question just how many abortions are done not for the reasons above, but because of an irresponsible lifestyle.

How many women get pregnant because they or their partners “choose” not to use any birth control???

There is absolutely no excuse for anybody who is sexually active to not use any form of birth control if they want to avoid pregnancy, STD’s or Aids. None!

As a taxpayer working fifty to sixty hours a week, I'm not thrilled to pay for someone else's birth control.


Poe

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Bombs kill Babies, too.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jan 10, 2007 5:34 AM   
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The congress will not support legal abortion, but will spend billiions to support an illegal war and occupation which has killed hundreds of thousands of babies and children.

Does the exercise of power make less sense than this?

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Curly v Moe
Posted by: TonyGottlieb on Jan 10, 2007 6:10 AM   
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A Constitutionally protected right to become a dead-Beat parent within the confidential relationship between a man and his lawyer.

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Christian Right clowns don't want their tax dollars
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Jan 10, 2007 7:10 AM   
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To go for abortions that they don't believe in. But they're ready and willing to use my tax dollars to support their idiotic, ignorant and plain crappy notions. They demand tax exemptions, which is the same as a tax subsidy since they make full use of government services.

Keep the Hyde Amendment? Good. Get rid of tax exemptions for Church businesses and other obnoxious religious activities.

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A Woman's Right to Choose
Posted by: hennep on Jan 10, 2007 10:26 AM   
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A long time ago i was a catholic and went on an anti abortion march while a (Catholic) high school student, but that's before i had the capacity to think for myself.
The Anti abortion lobby is basically spouting dogma promoted by faith groups which in America should not be enshrined in law (separation of church and state). Abortion is a personal choice of the individual is it not?, if it was totally legal (within medically defined limits) it would not affect any faith group who oppose it, they are not forced to have them just like no one is forced to buy an assault rifle whose purchase is also legal.
Why should a vocal myopic section of society place their faith based view of the world on all denying a real need. Why have most civilized countries an abortion law, well if you deny it it goes under ground and people DIE at the hand of backstreet abortionists. The mindset of those who bomb Abortion clinics and murder their staff are beyond the pale, they say abortion is murder and then commit acts of murder to instill fear in others, not very Christian of them is it?
Is it not better to leave such choices to the individual. Here in the Nederland's and also in the UK abortion is covered by health insurance/NHS as those who need it most are usually the poor/un educated, but then the American system of healthcare is not about health care its about making large amounts of cash and not to improve the health and well being of the people.
You would think that rational beings understand that accidents happen, condoms break, the pill fails, sometimes shit happens and has to be dealt with. Life begins when an embryo can self sustain, until that point its a parasite in its host no matter what the god squad says about it having a soul, its not a viable entity and therefore has no rights apart from what its host gives it.
Is it insane that universal health care is not operational in the USofA, its also insane that you have to work 50-60 hours a week just to survive, under EU law its illegal to work that much but we have less poor and disadvantaged, we have universal health care because we actually understand what you say you live by, all are equal, we care for each other even though there is NO profit in it apart from reducing the frictions within society, we the people for the people is how europe lives to a much greater extent than you americians.

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TO ALL YOU MEN...
Posted by: WitchyNy on Jan 10, 2007 10:40 AM   
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who are so tired of your money going to pay for abortions or child support...how about this.

Anyone who's sperm causes an unwanted pregnancy has comitted a crime against the state.

Three strikes...Castration.
Control your sperm.

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Hurray for these women!!
Posted by: janvdb on Jan 10, 2007 10:51 AM   
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I am going to go give some money to the National Network of Abortion Funds right now.

Jan VanDenBerg

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Isn't it enough?
Posted by: neddelux on Jan 10, 2007 11:32 AM   
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Isn't it enough that women in America are allowed by law to kill their babies? Now they want the rest of us to pay for it?
Here is a novel idea, if all these pro abort groups are so concerned that low income women can get free abortions, why don't they pool their money and efforts to pay for it themselves. This is much fairer than using the power of government to force those of us opposed to murder to contribute to the "choice" of women who wish to end an innocent life.

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I HAVE A SIMPLE SOLUTION!!!!
Posted by: poppop_schell on Jan 10, 2007 12:24 PM   
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For all those who believe in paying for low income abortions, you don't have to change ANY law inclusing Hyde's. Tomorrow, there can be plenty of money to help the poor. HOw?

Simple use your personal money to give to abortion organizations to perform for the poor. This is a moral issue to me and at least 60% of Americans. IF you feel its OK to force me through taxes to pay for what I feel is an immoral act, I will vote with you IF you will vote to allow me to tax you to support my Church. OK?

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Good, less people
Posted by: Ambrose Pare on Jan 10, 2007 7:34 PM   
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Pay for the abortion, or pay the insurance company when the little basterds grow up and steal your car.

If mom and pops have consentual sex and can't understand the concept of birth-control, they're gonna pop out some dumbass kids.

Too many people in this world anyways.

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Just a suggestion...
Posted by: jaby on Jan 10, 2007 10:54 PM   
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but to all of you out there who flip out over the mere suggestion of a man having at least knowledge that his wife, girlfriend, 'buddy' or whatever is pregnant, then don't sleep with tose who don't share your views.

To all those out there who at least want to know, have some say, how about only sleeping with those who think the same way you do?

After reading the replies to this or any other Alternet article dealing in any way that is even tangentially related to abortion, this is the issue that comes up most often, the thing that causes the most arguments and the most ridiculous hyperbole, so lets put a stop to it. This is an issue we can actually solve ourselves.

I mean, we look for people we find attractive to date, we all have some standards, how come this can't be a standard? We ask personal questions all the time? Why not about this? It seems like a good thing to ask, along with the standard rigmarole about STD's and what not. My mom told me that I was old enough to have sex when I stopped being embarrased to buy my own tampons and pads and to go to the gynecologist, and I think something similar could apply here. So, to borrow from Bill Maher, I have a suggestion for a New Rule: If you are too embarrased to ask, like an adult, about your potential opposite-sex-partner's feelings on abortion, then you are not old enough or mature enough to be having sex.

Good? Agreed? Fantastic.

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Abortion hurts
Posted by: Joachim on Jan 24, 2007 12:37 AM   
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a victim of rape or incest is in need of compassionate care
look around - it's there
abortion simply victimizes her again
this merciless industry leaves behind one dead and one wounded
sometimes it leaves two dead
it is the ultimate child abuse
it is the ultimate violent act against innocence
it is driven by greed and fed by lies and despair
There is a better solution
Life and love

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