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Burn, Baby, Burn
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It's going to be a lonely celebration. According to the Citizens' Flag Alliance, an advocacy group that supports a constitutional amendment, there have been only four instances of flag desecration this year. There were 12 in 2005, three in 2004, and six in 2003. Not exactly a nationwide epidemic.
But facts are so antiquated. All that mattered was that Republicans got another arrow in their "Democrats hate America" quiver by forcing a debate on a nonexistent problem. It remains to be seen if, on the campaign trail this fall, they will again channel 9/11 to score political points over the flag-burning amendment. Recall the words of the infamous Randy "Duke" Cunningham in 2005: "Ask the men and women who stood on top of the World Trade Center. Ask them and they will tell you -- pass this amendment."
Republicans pooh-pooh the Supreme Court's ruling that desecrations of the flag are protected as free speech by the First Amendment to the Constitution. (That liberal judicial activist Antonin Scalia has said that banning flag burning "dilutes the very freedom that makes this emblem so revered.") Republicans counter that the First Amendment protects freedom of speech, not freedom of "expression," and that burning a flag is not speech.
But as much as we all love a good tussle over the meaning of the First Amendment, it's a bit beside the point given that there simply is nothing even approximating a flag burning epidemic that could warrant Congress debating this amendment. Remember when constitutional amendments used to address actual issues -- prohibiting slavery, say, or giving women the right to vote? Now Republicans doggedly seek to amend our founding document in case some drunk frat boys set their neighbor's flag on fire (which, one hastens to add, already can be prosecuted under the law).
Democrats -- wrongly, in my opinion -- tried to meet the Republicans halfway and offered a bill that would have criminalized flag desecration, but would avoid amending the constitution. It was handily defeated, since it had no political value to the Republicans. As one Democratic Senator put it, "This amendment isn't about protecting the flag, it's about protecting the Republican majority."
Don't get me wrong. I love the American flag. At Girl Scout camp, I dutifully engaged in the flag ceremonies, expressing the appropriate level of horror if the flag even came near to touching the ground. I knew how to fold it up in a little triangle and hold it with reverence. My family always hung the flag outside our house on Memorial Day, the Fourth of July, and Veterans Day (if it wasn't snowing). I wouldn't want to see someone burning the flag, but I value the freedom that allows them to do it, and I'm not willing to sacrifice that to avoid seeing something that upsets me.
In testifying against a constitutional amendment, former Senator Bob Kerrey once said: "Real patriotism cannot be coerced. It must be a voluntary and unselfish, brave act to sacrifice for others." Indeed, there is something perverse about limiting people's freedom in an attempt to make them respect a symbol of freedom. As Jonathan Alter recently pointed out , other countries that have banned flag burning include Iran, Cuba, and Iraq under Saddam Hussein.
In an often cited account, James H. Warner, a former Marine who spent six years as a prisoner of the North Vietnamese, was confronted by a communist interrogator who showed him a photo of American antiwar protesters burning a flag and told him that this proved his cause was wrong. Warner infuriated the interrogator by countering, ''That proves that I am right. In my country we are not afraid of freedom, even if it means that people disagree with us."
Senator McCain also had an experience with the American flag while being held captive in Hanoi and cited this story as one of the reasons he supports a constitutional amendment: One of his cellmates secretly fashioned a needle from a bamboo shoot and used strips of white and red fabric and the blue of his prison garb to sew an American flag on the inside of his shirt. Eventually, the shirt was confiscated by the North Vietnamese, and the American prisoner was severely beaten. The first thing the young man did after that beating was to begin sewing another American flag inside his shirt.
McCain's story is compelling -- as are the many stories of veterans who have felt betrayed, angry, and hurt upon seeing pictures of burning flags -- but its direct relevance to this debate is a bit obscure. Should the constitution be amended to avoid painful experiences? There are veterans who would argue that seeing pictures of war protesters is painful for them -- are we going to outlaw protest?
At any rate, regardless of the merits of the issue or last night's defeat in the Senate, something tells me this isn't going away. After all, 2008 is right around the corner.
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Posted by: vespasian01 on Jun 28, 2006 1:00 PM
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Posted by: Fang-Face Dreamweaver on Jun 28, 2006 3:12 PM
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However, I do not oppose flag burning for one simple reason. I have no doubt that government and elected parasites are so goddamned stupid that some day, someone, somewhere is going to piss me off so much that I will burn a flag in protest of whatever ineffable stupidity the lousy prick came up with.
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Posted by: Wish on Jun 29, 2006 4:49 AM
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That's it made s 'symbol' of something, like 'freedom', is basically nothing more than a certain kind of agreement between people. Having become a mindwarp.
These people who want to ban flag burning, as an addition to the constitution deem a symbol more important than freedom itself. Like they have been blurting about 'freedom' and 'democracy' all along, while undermining both for their own selfish and megalomaniac reasons and purposes.
The whole idea about freedm and democracy is that people can express themselves (so not only literally speak) in a way that you might not agree with.
And anyway, what IS democracy?? It still is that one part of the population rules over another part. Making that a very big part of the population get ruling imposed upon them that they did not vote for, or want.
Democracy is still a compromise.
Though yes, it gives people a vote at least.
But what is democracy when the ones who have been elected do not display any accountability about their deeds and non-deeds? Where actions are not for the good of the people (however hard they cream about "the people"), but only for their own vile purposes.
Flags...get some perspective! Real people are more important than symbols.
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Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Jul 1, 2006 4:43 PM
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Posted by: Greywoulf on Jul 4, 2006 2:59 PM
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Is that next for supression? Will I be arrested now for this form of protest, for "multilating" the appearence of the flag and Lady Liberty on my bills and mail?
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Posted by: Fang-Face Dreamweaver on Jun 28, 2006 3:12 PM
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However, I do not oppose flag burning for one simple reason. I have no doubt that government and elected parasites are so goddamned stupid that some day, someone, somewhere is going to piss me off so much that I will burn a flag in protest of whatever ineffable stupidity the lousy prick came up with.
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Posted by: Wish on Jun 29, 2006 4:49 AM
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That's it made s 'symbol' of something, like 'freedom', is basically nothing more than a certain kind of agreement between people. Having become a mindwarp.
These people who want to ban flag burning, as an addition to the constitution deem a symbol more important than freedom itself. Like they have been blurting about 'freedom' and 'democracy' all along, while undermining both for their own selfish and megalomaniac reasons and purposes.
The whole idea about freedm and democracy is that people can express themselves (so not only literally speak) in a way that you might not agree with.
And anyway, what IS democracy?? It still is that one part of the population rules over another part. Making that a very big part of the population get ruling imposed upon them that they did not vote for, or want.
Democracy is still a compromise.
Though yes, it gives people a vote at least.
But what is democracy when the ones who have been elected do not display any accountability about their deeds and non-deeds? Where actions are not for the good of the people (however hard they cream about "the people"), but only for their own vile purposes.
Flags...get some perspective! Real people are more important than symbols.
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Is that next for supression? Will I be arrested now for this form of protest, for "multilating" the appearence of the flag and Lady Liberty on my bills and mail?
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