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Rights and Liberties

Anti-Choice Legislators Have Gone Too Far

By Nancy Keenan, TomPaine.com. Posted June 21, 2006.


Let's be honest. Anti-choice legislators have gone too far -- and on June 6th, most Americans seemed to agree.
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Editor's Note: On March 6, 2006, South Dakota Governor Mike Rounds enacted a statewide abortion ban scheduled to take effect on July 1. In response, Planned Parenthood formed a powerful campaign, Stand Up South Dakota, to collect enough signatures to stop the ban's enforcement by adding it the state ballot in November. They succeeded in temporarily preventing the ban, but still need help to avert it from being passed in the fall.

If the recent June 6 primary is viewed as an early preview of this year's midterm elections, pro-choice Americans have much to celebrate. Not only was choice a positive issue in many of the races, but candidates throughout the country used their pro-choice values of freedom and privacy to cultivate a winning message.

Let's be honest. Anti-choice legislators have gone too far. South Dakota's governor signed a law criminalizing abortion. Louisiana's governor just signed a new ban on abortion. Ohio's legislature held a hearing to debate an abortion ban. And another 11 states have considered or are considering bills that would outlaw abortion in all or most circumstances. But we saw on June 6 that Americans are tired of these divisive attacks on a woman's right to choose.

Take Iowa for example. In Iowa's 1st Congressional District, NARAL Pro-Choice America-endorsed candidate Bruce Braley won a hotly contested primary by using his strong pro-choice message to put his anti-choice opponents on the defensive. In the weeks leading up to the primary, Braley even released a television ad quoting his opponent Rick Dickinson saying "he would do all he could to rescind Roe v. Wade and 'end abortion in this country as we know it.'"

 In Iowa's Democratic primary for governor, Secretary of State Chet Culver's strong stance on choice exposed his opponent Mike Blouin's attempts to dodge the issue.

 According to The New York Times, Chet Culver "made his support for abortion rights a central issue of the campaign, raising doubts about Mr. Blouin's stance."

"A woman's right to choose is under assault, and people in this state are absolutely worried," Culver said. "This has become a very important issue in this state and in the state races around the country."

Blouin--who had co-sponsored a constitutional amendment banning abortion as a member of Congress--tried to defuse his anti-choice record, but he failed to persuade either side.

"Now you have a pro-life pro-choicer," said  David Yepsen, the political columnist for The Des Moines Register. "I don't think either side is happy with him."

In Montana the pro-choice president of the state senate, Jon Tester, won a decisive victory in his party's primary to face embattled incumbent anti-choice Sen. Conrad Burns. In New Jersey, Sen. Robert Menendez's strong record in support of women's freedom and privacy will further strengthen his support from voters in the Garden State.

Why are pro-choice candidates winning? Because they are not only using these egregious bans on abortion to put their opponents on the defense, they are also introducing voters to their commonsense message of increasing access to birth control, including the "morning-after" pill, providing honest, age-appropriate sex education and better family-planning services for those without health insurance.

Meanwhile, anti-choice politicians in Congress and state legislatures are providing voters with multiple reasons to vote for an alternative this November.

Last month, anti-choice House leaders wouldn't even allow a vote on a common-ground amendment to ensure the "morning-after" pill is made available to military women overseas. Reps. Mike Michaud, D-Maine, and Tim Ryan, D-Ohio, both of whom oppose legal abortion, cosponsored the proposal.

And Senate anti-choice leaders are trying to pass legislation that would, among other things, nullify state laws that ensure insurance plans cover birth control in the same way they cover other prescription medication like Viagra. If Congress and the president enact this law, 25 states' laws that protect women's access to birth control could be overridden. Further, legislators in 18 states--Alabama, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, and Wisconsin--are considering or have considered measures that would allow pharmacies or pharmacists to refuse to fill women's prescriptions for birth control.

Worse yet, in the states with recently passed abortion bans, Louisiana and South Dakota, the same politicians who want to outlaw abortion have repeatedly voted against measures to expand access to emergency contraception.

Here's the dilemma for anti-choice politicians. Not only are they pushing extreme and divisive bans to criminalize abortion, but they're blocking commonsense measures that would prevent unintended pregnancies and reduce the need for abortion. Their actions have exposed their hypocrisy and hostility toward the fundamental values of freedom and privacy. In select races on June 6, voters answered them by electing strong pro-choice candidates.

We will continue to mobilize our network of nearly one million pro-choice activists in all 50 states to work toward similar results in races for Congress and the state legislatures this November.

Digg!

Nancy Keenan is president of NARAL Pro-Choice America.

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NARAL LIES
Posted by: resistance6 on Jun 21, 2006 1:57 AM   
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Anti Choice? What choice do these people offer the unborn babies?

If the babies did have a choice, do you think they would choose to give up their lives, to have their heads ripped off their bodies, their arms and legs twisted away?

Anybody ever seen pictures of these little ones after the abortionist gets through with them? The babies who thought they were safe and warm in their mothers' womb?

Anybody ever wonder why our nation is on the verge of extinction, why God has turned his back on us, why we are now ruled by criminals who are plotting to put in a permanent dictatorship, who have already managed to slip in a police state right under our noses?

Once the NeoCONs strike Iran, how long do you think it will take for Russia to drop a couple hundred nukes on our country?

But we will go down screaming for our right to abort, right to the last breath, won't we America?

Our only hope is God. But why would he listen to us when we are such barbarians to be murdering our own unborn?

Planned Parenthood, NARAL and other wicked people have insisted on your right to kill these babies all these years. Since 1973 every year we have had 1.5 million babies murdered. And NARAL's blood lust is not satiated.

What idiocy.

Click below for THE OTHER SIDE, the side the controlled media has never told. Maybe then you can tell AlterNet to keep NARAL and its filthy lies off the Alternetroster, along with NAMBLA and some other degenerate groups. If you were willing to look at the pictures of Iraqis killed, wounded and tortured which are featured in a recent Alternet article, check out these pictures of what we're doing to our own children right here in America .

CLICK HERE FOR THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION. NARAL LIES.

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OYG
Posted by: deman on Jun 21, 2006 3:23 AM   
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OYG !!!
if our only hope is your imaginairy friend or god, then its true, we are all doomed

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mike532
Posted by: mike532 on Jun 21, 2006 3:30 AM   
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there is no such thing as an UNBORN BABY they are a fetus and not alive . life begines at birth not before

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What would Jesus bomb?
Posted by: Louisa on Jun 21, 2006 3:52 AM   
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Save it, you Christian pyscho!

When a woman fights for the right to choose, she fights for the simple right to remain autonomous. A man cannot become preganant and is never faced with this choice. A small parasitic zygote will never grow into a small potential human being inside a man - only women have been "blessed" with this "gift."

It may not be her first choice, it may not even be what she might do in other circumstances, but a woman has the right to choose. She's always had this right - believe it or not. In the field strangling her own unwanted children or trying to early abort it with parsley wrapped in gauze. If it were your body you would likewise demand such control. All we want now are safe and legal alternatives. So thanks for the last 30+ years!

No one is going to tell me what to do with my body. I support legal abortion, but don't deceive yourself that it is the only avenue of protest available to women.

I am sorry to inform you members of the radical Christian right, but women are in charge. We do your laundry, cook your food and serve you dinner.

Do not fuck with us.

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anti-abortionists
Posted by: Fang-Face Dreamweaver on Jun 21, 2006 4:06 AM   
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The anti-abortion rights movement is not about morality or "life", it's all about control of those over whom you have no legal authority. At bottom, it's all about enslaving women. If you accord to yourself authority over someone else's life, then you necessarily reduce that person to the status of chattel; property.

It's also a tad paradoxical coming as it does from a crowd that will scream about "the law" as if the law is something holy and invariable. What they turn a blind eye to is the fact that legalized abortion is the law of the land; ever since Roe v. Wade.

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Pro-life?
Posted by: Annarisse on Jun 21, 2006 4:18 AM   
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If these legislators were really pro-life, they'd be championing universal medical care, paid parental leaves, higher minimum wages, and other ideas designed to help the children of the poor grow into healthy adults. It's immoral to let them be conceived and then kill them - okay, go ahead and believe that, but then put your money where your mouth is and help desperate women with the realities of raising an unplanned child. Only when you do this will you have any moral credibility.

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Is the pendulum finally turning?
Posted by: ladyoracle on Jun 21, 2006 4:20 AM   
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I live in Louisiana and have been feeling extremely pessimistic about women's rights lately (largely thanks to our "democrat" and "woman" governor, because I expect attacks on women's health rights from the right, but not the left).

This article gives me solid reasons to be hopeful that America actually won't tolerate this extremism. I am glad that candidates are pushing the issue that so-called pro-life politicians are anti-preventive measures like birth control and sex education. I also hope they will criticize the extents of the bans, since in Louisiana, there is no clause for rape or incest!! I recently read an article about an 8-yr old girl who was raped and became pregnant in a South American country, and there was a huge legal battle over whether she should be allowed to have an abortion, which she eventually obtained; that case could also happen in Louisiana if our politicians get thier way.

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The Bible and Abortion
Posted by: Ratskii on Jun 21, 2006 5:22 AM   
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Let me quote Exodus 21.22-25: When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is a miscarrage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined, according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any other harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Here is a clear statement from the Old Testament that an an artificially induced abortion is considered the equivalent of a misdemenor, but other harm done to the woman through said violence is treated as a capital crime if the woman loses her life and a felony (i.e. subject to eye for an eye mosaic code) if she is otherwise harmed.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it Bible thumpers

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the same as it always been....
Posted by: weiwuwei on Jun 21, 2006 6:46 AM   
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as someone already said, as been said many times, but the "pro-lifers" just cannot see... the whole issue of preventing access to contraception, sex education, private choice regarding abortion all things of reproductive freedom is and has always been nothing more than the impulse to control, dominate and keep enslaved. Just insane.

i also remember hearing that in chinese philosophy, they understand a truth we have not seen; that the feminine energy/principle/consciuosness cannot be subdued by force, no matter what is done. it is more subtle than the male energy/principle and will always find a way, like flowing water that will always find it's way around any obstacle in it's path. no matter how long it takes, the feminine will not be subdued, ever, by force. But somehow, "maleness" just cannot accept that, so this farce goes on and on.

and that so many "pro-lifers" are so callous towards govt help to the poor children already here is such hypocrisy, what can you say?

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This guy is hilarious!
Posted by: Vyking on Jun 21, 2006 7:56 AM   
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There are few things that produce more unintentional humor than the histrionics, melodrama and chest thumping of religious kooks playing King Lear on the heath. It's like movies that are just so bad they're good. I also loved resistance6's completely unintentional comic touches like the link to the Army of God (now there's a hot bed of mental health!), "RU286", the paranoid reference to the nonexistant Illuminati, and the pathetic invent-a-fact that "half of all couples are infertile." Hee!

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Abortion is not forbidden by God
Posted by: Fang-Face Dreamweaver on Jun 21, 2006 8:35 AM   
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When a religious group takes a position on a political issue, it typically does so by claiming divine inspiration. Not only does this inhibit debate, but it replaces rational discourse and the rules of evidence by obscurantism and willfulness. Citing "God's will" in a discussion is meant to silence, not convince, an opponent.
--Aram Vartanian, Democracy, Religion, and the Englightment, 1991, reprinted in Civil Liberties: Opposing Viewpoints, pg 139

The basic premise of the anti-choice movement is that God himself has prohibited abortion, the "proof" of which is to be found in the scriptures. However, the entire history of biblical exegiesis shows that almost any personal or collective conviction can find support in divine revelation; not only are the contents of the Bible heterogeneous and inconsistent but they are often couched in vague, ambiguous, or figurative language. Thus, the Bible always obliges a true believer by miraculously saying whatever he or she wants it to say -- even if nothing resembling one's belief can be discovered verbatim in the Old or New Testaments [...].
--Aram Vartanian, Democracy, Religion, and the Englightment, 1991, reprinted in Civil Liberties: Opposing Viewpoints, pg 139

Kindly keep in mind that the Commandment "Thou shalt not commit murder" is applied only against those who do not kow tow to christo-fanaticism. Christo-fanatics have murdered large numbers of people down through the ages. Many of them were christian women; some of the victims were as young as seven years old.

Christo-fanatics have demonstrated time and again that they do not care for those who are already living, only for those who are unborn.

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Its great to expose pro-lifers as the thugs they are!
Posted by: outsidea on Jun 21, 2006 8:42 AM   
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This is a great article for two reasons. One it gives many of us who support a woman's right to choose a morale boost in the face of the right wing Christians malevolent and very successful assault on that right. Two, it gives those of us who are not familiar with the hypocrisy, malevolence, and misogyny that characterizes the vast majority of "Pro-Life" activists a chance to see it in action...(thank you resistance6) and wake up to the danger these kooks pose to us all.

Joseph

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On Being Hilarious, fertility rates and RU486
Posted by: resistance6 on Jun 21, 2006 9:02 AM   
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Viking -- You're right. Infertility rates are 25 percent. All the soy which is put in the food (raises estrogen levels) may have something to do with the reduced fertility. Also STDs and environmental factors.

And it's RU486 not 286, so why don't you crucify me on that?

The point is there's an awful lot of couples, millions of them, who are desperate to have children and can't, and are having to resort to test tubes and surrogates.

Thomas Cowan, MD, is a physician in private practice in San Francisco, California, a board member of the Weston A. Price Foundation, and a regular contributor to our "Ask the Doctor" column. This article was excerpted from his book The Fourfold Path to Healing, now available from NewTrends Publishing, http://www.newtrendspublishing.com/. Visit Dr. Cowan's website at http://www.fourfoldhealing.com.

EXCERPT: "Other issues affecting the health of the American male have yet to receive the same national attention. For example, the average sperm count of today's adult male is about 50 percent lower than it was 50 years ago. Infertility rates among American couples now approach 25 percent, a heartbreaking situation that can be partially explained by lower sperm counts and decreased viability of the sperm. These changes parallel the findings seen in other mammalian species, including lowered fertility rates, decreased sperm counts and anatomical changes in the male reproductive organs.

Clearly, environmental changes that have accelerated during the past 40 to 50 years affect the reproductive health of males of different species. Exogenous estrogens in our environment undoubtedly contribute to the feminization of males in many mammalian species, as well as the lowered sperm counts of the American male."

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Rape
Posted by: PickleBarrel on Jun 21, 2006 9:03 AM   
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Actually, I'm avidly waiting for the Religious defense of rape as preventing the murder of children by preventing women from bleeding their unborn children into the toilet!!

I believe this is the next step for such fanaticism :)

Someone will do it, I think.

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Always the idiot!
Posted by: RosieRivetor on Jun 21, 2006 10:32 AM   
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Resistance6, do you just sit at your computer and get off on being such a TOOL? Your hate is beyond understanding. Shut up and crawl back under your rock. Unless you have a uterus - you opinion just doesn't matter on this. EVER!

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Birth Control in the water
Posted by: Shallow_Vain on Jun 21, 2006 10:36 AM   
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End of discussion..
UNLESS of course your religion forbids that as well...
In which case.. Like most third world countries with a Caste system a large labor class will develope.. YEA! Slave labor!
It's AMAZING to me that while the right wants to stop abortion and end most forms of birth control.. They also want to cut back on ALL forms of social Welfare, including education.

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Thoughtful
Posted by: morj78 on Jun 21, 2006 10:43 AM   
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Re: NARAL LIES

I looked at those photos -- they are of full term babies!! They are not embryos! Also, I find it very interesting that the very people who are "Pro-Life". are also Pro Capitol Punishment. What kind of mental gymnastics does it take to hold those two positions side-by-side?


Whether or not I am Pro Life and/or Pro Choice, I will defend to the death ANY woman's ;right to make any and ALL decisions about her own body!

I have the sneaky feeling that if Jesus walked in and told these rabid people who scream their vitriol at women in terrible emotional pain at Planned Parenthood Clinics, which do OTHER things beside abortions by the way, they would shoot him down!

The fact that these fanatics routinely break several Commandments every time they perpetrate violence or vitriol upon the above, not to mention the funerals of gay or lesbian people leads me to the conclusion that these so-called "Christians" aren't.

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FED UP TO THE TEETH!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: pianojo on Jun 21, 2006 11:17 AM   
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Pro-Life? What a joke of a misnomer. These people are NOT pro-life. They are ANTI-CHOICE. They have the gall to think that they have the right to tell me what I can and cannot do with my own body.

Where do they get off thinking like this? And what makes it doubly sad is that there are WOMEN supporting this crap. It's bad enough when MEN support it, but WOMEN? I can only assume they have been brainwashed.

I have HAD IT with anti-choice people parading as caring human beings who care more about fetuses than they do about women. These creatures who pretend to care about fetuses don't give a good god-damn once the fetus is born. If they did, we wouldn't have 20% of children in this country living in poverty and going to bed hungry every night.

This is NOT about caring for fetuses. These creatures do NOT care about fetuses. All they care about is CONTROLLING WOMEN. That is their bottom line.

If there is a god, my fondest wish is that these anti-choice disciples descend to the depths along with their miserable excuse for a religion!!!!!!!!!

And now let me close with a curse on anti-choice people: May you have a mansion with 100 rooms and may every room have 100 beds and may malaria fever toss you from bed to bed!

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Pro-Life? Ha!!!
Posted by: NonnyO on Jun 21, 2006 12:29 PM   
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resistance6 said: "But as human beings we don't kill babies, our own babies or other people's babies. Barbarians and Satanists may do that, but civilized human beings don't. Christians certainly don't."

Yes, Christians most certainly DO kill babies... after they are born... by bombing the hell out of the homes they inhabit with their siblings and their fathers and their mothers, some of whom are pregnant with unborn children (like the woman in labor killed by the US military on the way to the hospital in labor and about to give birth). Ask anyone in Iraq or Afghanistan how they feel when US bombs or bullets start flying....

Oh, wait... you won't get an answer from dead people you good Christians have killed, now will you...?

If you lack a uterus because you were not born with one, you don't get to dictate what is or is not in any woman's uterus unless it's in your own body, and then you can control what is or is not in your own uterus. Period. All the rest of the blather is useless debate unless it affects your own body.

If all rapists and child molesters were castrated, women would not have to worry about getting pregnant as a result of rape. (Yes, I know rape is about power and control, but if rapists and child molesters were castrated at least their sperm would not have a chance of fathering an unwanted child and potentially passing on those violent tendencies, just in case it's genetic.)

If there had been no abortion laws passed in the 19th century, perhaps my grandmother who died after carrying a dead and decomposing corpse inside of her for three months after pre-eclampsia had killed her fetus (and she knew it was dead, so did the doctor, and the entire family) would have lived to raise the five children who survived her. The doctor did not do a C-section until she went into labor, and she died 24 hours later. I do genealogy research, I have a copy of her death certificate and of the male fetus "of six months gestation but carried to term." Her death amounted to extreme cruelty, drawn out with both physical and emotional pain over a dead fetus for three months on top of everything else.

I'd say put your money where your mouth is and adopt a child born as a result of rape and put up for adoption... but you'd make a terrible control-freak parent, and I'd not wish that on a helpless baby....

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» RE: Pro-Life? Ha!!! Posted by: Dean Cascio
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Posted by: SamFox on Jun 21, 2006 1:05 PM   
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of aborted children are available from pro-'choice' groups. They only want us to hear about the idiot women who used to use a coathanger for 'birth control' or 'back alley' horror stories. They fight ecucating the people fang & claw because a big money INDUSTRY is at stake. Why is 'choice' used instead of 'abortion'? Easier sell & one way they bias poll questions. Most pro-choice liberals are anti-choice when it comes to firearms, abortion education, school vouchers, closing the borders (as they hope for more Lib votes)...they lie when they claim choice...they only want us to have THEIR choices available.

Res.6 is right on!

Some years ago Life Magizine (?) had an issue W/pics. that showed the stages of a developing child. You'll NEVER