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Running From Roe

By Paul Waldman, TomPaine.com. Posted March 23, 2006.


South Dakota's extreme new law is making even Republicans squirm; now is the time for Democrats to reclaim the abortion debate.
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Pro-choice Americans everywhere are becoming unsettled about the future of reproductive rights. The Supreme Court is one vacancy away from overturning Roe v. Wade and at least one state, South Dakota, has already outlawed abortion in the hope of bringing the Court a case to challenge Roe. But the ones who are really nervous? The Republicans.  

That's because the South Dakota law -- which criminalizes abortion except to save a woman's life -- has pulled the abortion issue back to a fundamental question: whether Roe should be overturned and abortion made illegal in large parts of the country. This is just the debate Republicans don't want to have. For years, they've used a strategy of chipping away at reproductive rights by finding side issues like parental consent, "partial-birth" and the newest, "fetal pain," on which they can obtain broad public support.  
These interim steps were never supposed to be ends in themselves. Nor were they designed merely to keep the pro-choice side on the defensive. Their real purpose was to make the ground of public opinion more fertile for the ultimate goal of overturning Roe.  

But for all the apparent success the pro-life side had with parental consent and "partial birth" laws, they never got any closer to their ultimate goal. Opinions on abortion vary dramatically depending on how you ask the question, but when we look over time, we see that opinions on a given question have remained essentially locked in place since the 1970s.

For instance, since 1975, Gallup has asked whether abortion should be legal in all circumstances, legal in only certain circumstances, or illegal in all circumstances. In April of that year, 21 percent said it should always be legal, 54 percent said it should be legal in only certain circumstances, and 22 percent said it should always be illegal. The numbers 30 years later, in 2005, after elections, Supreme Court cases, and endless political wrangling: a near-identical 26 percent, 56 percent, and 16 percent, respectively. Opinions on abortion have hardly budged in decades.  

The pro-life strategy failed, and the American people remain committed to abortion rights. But by turning attention away from Roe, their strategy enabled Republicans to avoid answering fundamental questions on the issue. In what has to be one of the most remarkable achievements of weaselly evasion in American political history, George W. Bush ran for president twice, and has served five years in office, without ever stating precisely where he stands on the most contentious legal and social issue of our time. Although we know he's "pro-life" and favors a "culture of life" (i.e., abortion -- bad, stem cell research -- bad, death penalty and wars with tens of thousands of civilian casualties -- hunky dory), he has never said whether or not he wants Roe v. Wade to be overturned.  

Characteristically, the White House has refused to say whether the president supports or opposes the South Dakota law, protesting that it's a state matter, and therefore Bush won't take a position. "Look at the president's record when it comes to defending the sanctity of life," Scott McLellan said, bobbing and weaving desperately. "That is a very strong record. His views when it comes to pro-life issues are very clearly spelled out. We also have stated repeatedly that state legislatures, when they pass laws, those are state matters." As is so often the case with McClellan, you could smell the fear.

And it isn't just Bush. The rhetoric of Republicans thinking about running for president in 2008 -- with the notable exception of Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback (whose slogan may end up being "Building a Bridge to the 14th Century") -- reveals how terrified they are of the role abortion could play in that campaign.  

Consider John McCain, he of the straight talk, firm principle and vaunted authenticity. McCain had a spokesman issue a statement saying he "would have signed the [South Dakota] legislation, but would also take the appropriate steps under state law -- in whatever state -- to ensure that the exceptions of rape, incest or life of the mother were included." Of course, there were no exceptions for rape and incest in the South Dakota law, making McCain's position essentially that he would favor banning nearly all abortions as long as it didn't involve banning nearly all abortions. That's the waffling of a man caught between fervently anti-choice Republican primary voters and a pro-choice general election majority.  

Or take Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, who, when asked on ABC's "This Week" if he would sign the South Dakota law, hemmed and hawed about exceptions for rape and incest, then said, "I'm opposed to abortion. I'm not the governor myself -- didn't have to vote on it but if I ever did have to vote on a situation like that, it would be around that feeling, opposition to abortion with those exceptions." Yes indeed, it would be "around that feeling."

When pressed by George Stephanopoulos to explain whether he would or wouldn't sign the South Dakota law, Frist dodged again, saying, "Well, again, I'm not going to put myself in that situation. I can tell you what my feelings are, my beliefs are and my philosophy is about it, and that's how I would vote and vote accordingly." Not exactly a model of moral clarity.  

But the most revealing statements may have been those of Virginia Sen. George Allen, the Washington insiders' choice for the 2008 Republican nomination. When asked by Tim Russert on "Meet the Press" whether he wanted to see Roe overturned, Allen retreated to the safe ground of parental notification laws, which he supports, in case you were wondering. By the time Russert asked him for the third time whether he supports overturning Roe, a visibly uncomfortable Allen, unable to say the words directly, finally sidled up to his long-held position with:

The point is, rather than arguing on a legal term, the point of the matter is the people in the states ought to be making these decisions. And if that's contrary to the dictates of Roe v. Wade, so be it. Because the way that Roe v. Wade has been interpreted is taking away the rights of the people in the states to make these decisions.
This bit of courageous straight talk comes from a senator with a perfect 100 percent rating from the National Right-to-Life Committee.  

The Republicans are embarrassed because they know their position on whether Roe should be overturned is a minority one -- embraced by only around one-third of the American people, according to recent polls.

Yet the Democrats are, if anything, even less courageous when talking about the issue. It's one thing for Democrats to be timid when it comes to issues on which their position is in the minority (like, say, flag burning) -- not politically wise, but somewhat understandable. But this is an issue on which two-thirds of the public agrees with them, and they still act as though their position is something they need to be embarrassed about.  

Instead, they should go on the offensive. Make every Republican answer this one, simple question: Yes or no, do you support overturning Roe v. Wade? "I believe in a culture of life" is not an answer. "I'm pro-life" is not an answer. "We need parental consent laws" is not an answer. Yes or no, do you support overturning Roe v. Wade? With each evasion -- as long as Democrats respond with, you're evading, now answer the damn question -- Republicans look more scared, more equivocal, more waffly, less willing to stand up for their beliefs, and less principled. Democrats could even make signs reading simply, "YES OR NO?" and hold them up at Republican rallies.  

Besides making Republican politicians nervous, focusing on this debate has the side benefit of driving wedges into the conservative coalition. One of the remarkable achievements of that coalition has been the willingness of its various parts to adopt each other's goals. So the religious conservatives became anti-tax zealots, the business groups paid lip service to the NRA's agenda, and everyone on the right proclaimed themselves pro-life.

This was easy to do when the questions involved parental consent or "partial birth." But, because of the focus on Roe, the business interests and the libertarians that are essential elements of that coalition find themselves having to go all the way on abortion, something they don't want to do.  

And when the abortion debate turns away from the ancillary issues and back to women's fundamental right to control their own reproductive lives, the right's uglier side emerges. Republicans have no interest in being associated with campaigns against contraception or the likes of South Dakota state Senator Bill Napoli.

Napoli, the enlightened soul who told PBS that the only abortion that should be legal "would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated."

In other words, virgin Christian rape victims can have abortions, but if you don't fall in that category, you must be a dirty slut, so you're out of luck. The blogger Digby aptly termed this the Sodomized Virgin Exception.  

If that kind of rhetoric becomes associated with the Republican Party, voters will turn away in disgust. But it won't happen unless Democrats make Republicans take responsibility for their own agenda.

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Paul Waldman is the editor-in-chief of The Gadflyer and author of 'Fraud: The Strategy Behind the Bush Lies and Why The Media Didn't Tell You.'

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Excellent Article!
Posted by: djtyg on Mar 23, 2006 4:02 AM   
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Not only does it show that we can WIN the abortion debate and put the Republicans on the defensive, we can call them out on it.

"See, you right winged fundamentalists, they don't want to ban abortion either! They're too scared!"

The single-issue abortion base is one of the Republicans biggest groups. If they know the Repugs would be too scared to overturn Roe v. Wade, they'd get their asses handed to them in elections.

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» RE: xcellent Article! Posted by: Michael Robin
Don't Hold Your Breath
Posted by: AlanSmithee on Mar 23, 2006 4:42 AM   
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Democrats have been pandering to the anti-Roe zelots for so long they've started running candidates like Bob Casey, desperately trying to move further to the right in order to win elections.

The best you can expect from Howard Dean, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton and the rest of the donk leadership is lip service and empty promises. If there's going to be a defense of women's reproductive rights, it isn't going to come from the democrats.

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The Dems are sold out to the same money that controlls the Repugs
Posted by: janvdb on Mar 23, 2006 8:08 AM   
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I don't think the Dems really want to win.

It's the only way to explain the push for a sure loser like Hillary.

Designed for failure.

The Dem Party as it is currently controlled are completely whored out to the money they take from the same top-1-percenters who have the Repugs bought and sold.

I think they have made a deal that they will make little squawks and squeaks as needed to create the appearance of a two-party democracy, but in fact they will throw elections, fail to try, fail to make obvious points and reliably do nothing which would threaten the continued smooth service of the state to the top-1-percenters.

Hillary for Pres?

DEATH WISH.

The refusal to come out against a war which a clear majority of the population considers Bush's biggest, ugliest, bloodiest and most expensive mistake?

DEATH WISH.

The inability to call for campaign finance reform?

DEATH WISH.

The refusal to make an big issue of paper ballots, something the population clearly wants? Given that most of us get a little slip of paper with price, gallonage, credit card number etc on it from a self-service gas pump at least once a week, we all know it can easily be done.

DEATH WISH.

The refusal to stand up for a basic human decency and hygienic necessity which puts us in league with the civilized people of Europe, rather than the likes of Nigeria, Argentina, Peru and Zambia -- a woman's right to choose?

DEATH WISH.

Inability to take a clear stand against a president who thinks he is divinely appointed to torture, wiretap, kidnap and detain without charge anyone, anywhere as he sees fit?

DEATH WISH.

The Dem Party as currently funded is not much more than one jerky puppet in a two-character puppet show in which all the strings are being manipulated from behind the red velvet curtain above the hokey little stage by one puppeteer -- the top 1-percenters.

The Party needs a grassroots rebellion, an internet-donation funded revolution which demands representatives who stand up for our morals and starts with targetting the Hillary-for-President DEATH WISH campaign for the trash heap.

KILL HILLARY!!!!

NO WAY WE WON'T GO!!!

We want a candidate who can WIN. Warner, Richardson, Brian Schweitzer -- someone who can WIN. Don't tell us there isn't anyone.

We don't believe you.

Jan VanDenBerg

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Religion breeds stupidity
Posted by: Moonray on Mar 23, 2006 8:57 AM   
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The abortion debate is really about the kooky notion that a fertilized human egg is magically infused with a human soul at the moment of conception. That idea is so outlandish that no intelligent, open-minded adult would believe it. That's why churches indoctrinate children with such dogma at an early age.

And it's not only the abortion debate where religion shows its ugly head. The most powerful churches oppose just about every intelligent, humane idea aimed at reducing human suffering, from helping the terminally ill die with dignity, to stem cell research, to allowing gays to marry and adopt children.

Talking about these issues individually just plays into the hands of those who favor the status quo. Every discussion should include a reference to the underlying problem -- religious stupidity and bigotry -- and suggestions for how to rid ourselves of this tyranny once and for all.

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» RE: Religion breeds stupidity Posted by: MatthewSavage
» RE: eligion breeds stupidity Posted by: chief of okeefe
South Dakotans Aren't Letting the Issue Rest
Posted by: Welfl on Mar 23, 2006 9:25 AM   
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It's not only democrats who are opposed to the South Dakota legislature's ridiculous bill (although I agree that democrats should take advantage of this opportunity). Read this very encouraging excerpt from the Rapid City (SD) Journal, posted on March 20, 2006 in their online edition:
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Sen. Stan Adelstein, R-Rapid City, opposed HB1215 and supports referring the measure to the November ballot. He said South Dakota voters “should have the chance to put this to bed once and for all.”

“The governor is a very thoughtful person,” Adelstein said. “But this controversy has to have the chance for a vote of the people. Petitions are already being drawn and will be circulated throughout the state.”

...“The best polls are the (voter) polls,” Adelstein said. “I’m convinced that we will defeat this roundly and won’t hear about it again. Then, we can get on to the serious business of education, health care and better jobs.”
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Complete article here: Abortion law fight begins

I completely agree with Adelstein's opinion of South Dakota voters (having been one myself at one time and hoping to be one again some day). Those South Dakota legislators who voted for the anti-abortion bill do not reflect the will of the majority of South Dakotans.

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Furthermore:

In a March survey -- taken after [SD Governor] Rounds signed a bill banning most abortions in the state -- Rounds' job approval was 58 percent, down from 72 percent in February. His job disapproval also rose from 23 percent to 38 percent, according to the poll.

Survey USA, which interviewed 600 adults March 10-12, calculates its net job approval rating by subtracting disapproval from approval.

That gives Rounds a plus 20, a 29-point drop from February's plus 49, according to Ken Alper, Survey USA news director.

Full text: Rounds' popularity down, poll says

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There IS a religious left
Posted by: kimaszi on Mar 23, 2006 1:53 PM   
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So why are all those Catholics getting arrested for protesting the School of the Americas? Come on. There are plenty of religious left/progressive people around; they just don't get the press that the religious right does (because of its massive propaganda infrastructure).

Here in Minnesota, hundreds of religious progressives held a prayer breakfast this morning to lobby AGAINST a state constitutional ban on gay/civil marriage. I organize immigrant workers, and I work with people from the United Church of Christ (this church did tons of work contributing to the environmental justice movement in the US southeast), Unitarian Univeralists (who with the UCC have designed a great sex-ed program for youth), Catholics, Lutherans, Jews, animists, and Muslims--who are all in support of many leftie causes. Many of these people say they feel called by their respective faiths to stand in solidarity with the poor and oppressed, and to see 'god' in every human.

So you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Yes, the religious right is appalling. But there ARE religious progressives. Google Jim Wallis, Rabbi Lerner, Sojourners, for starters. Please educate yourself, or you are no better than the ignorant right-wingers you are attacking.

btw, I'm an atheist.

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» RE: There IS a religious left Posted by: maxpayne
» "too liberal" Posted by: kimaszi
» RE: There IS a religious left Posted by: pop80lou
re: religious left--apologies
Posted by: kimaszi on Mar 23, 2006 1:55 PM   
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My comment above was a suppsed to be a reply to moonray's post.

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"Moderates" empower rightists
Posted by: Moonray on Mar 23, 2006 3:31 PM   
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To those who protest that some churches support social causes:

That's fine, but by buying into the myths upon which religion is built, they empower the lunatics who use religion as a powerful tool to oppress and exploit millions of people.

Just put the Twinkie down. Kick the religion habit and take responsibility for yourselves as rational human beings.

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A fine article, but...
Posted by: Yellow Dog Dem Woman on Mar 23, 2006 3:52 PM   
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by using the work "pro-choice" to describe them, you have accepted the language and the premise of the anti-choice movement. When the term "pro-life" is used to describe that group, the other side must be, by implication, "anti-life." I think pro-choice and and anti-choice are much better descriptions of each side's philosophies.

Stay strong!

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» RE: A fine article, but... Posted by: Michael Robin
abortion views
Posted by: dikaiosyne on Mar 23, 2006 4:26 PM   
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Seems there aren't many Republicans from South Dakota that are running away from the abortion debate. They know this will be a test case and I do not believe it is there intention to do anything other than make the abortion issue a state issue. Roe v. Wade was bad law and deserves to be overturned on that basis alone. The individual states should have the right to design and implement law that suit their constituencies. If New York wants to open abortion mills on every block then they should have that right. If S.D wants to outlaw the procedure it its entirety then they should have that right. You need an abortion or you like killing babies in an abortion mill?.... take the weekend off and visit or move to New York. You don't like baby killing New Yorkers? Take your family and move to South Dakota. The nice thing about being American is that pretty much every one can have a choice on most things.

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» RE: abortion views Posted by: chief of okeefe
» RE: abortion views Posted by: Vyking
» RE: abortion views Posted by: Welfl
Roe v. Wade & Process v. Result
Posted by: matthew2200 on Mar 23, 2006 5:58 PM   
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Your article is just a little alarmist don'tya think? "One vote away from overturning Roe?" Really? So you think you know how John Roberts would vote.
In fact, the entire argument, but for the fact that the topic is serious, is just silly. While the correctness of the decision in Roe seems self-evident to many on the Pro-choice side [of which I am one], anyone with even a passing knowledge of Constitutional law knows that Roe was a terrible, legally unsupportable, decision. Moreover, I should think the more thoughtful members of the so-called "Right to Life" side don't want to "win," by seeing Roe overturned. They're better off having the issue to argue than they are "winning" it. This seemingly endless debate forces the "Liberals" who argue it into an untenable position. Griswold v. Connecticuit, upon which Roe is based, was similarly a "good result" founded upon absurd reasoning. If you want to understand the problem with Roe, read Justice Potter Stewart's dissent in Griswold. Contrary to what many Liberals wish to believe, the Supreme Court is not the protector of all that is "good" and "right." Although it has assumed such authority, the Court does not properly have the power to substitute its judgment for that of the state legislatures. While one may applaud the result when a state law we think stupid is struck down [and, certainly, few dispute that the law at issue in Griswold was stupid. Even Stewart, who argued that the Court lacked jurisdiction to strike the law, called it "uncommonly silly."], are you really happy to see that the votes of citizens who voted for the legislators who passed the stupid law count for nothing?

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Could a doctor answer this one?
Posted by: Kelly on Mar 23, 2006 8:38 PM   
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Ok, just a question: can a fetus be safely killed by injecting an overdose of anasthetic into the placenta, just as euthanasia for pets, the Dutch, and Oregonians : ) is carried out? Just asking, because that would kill the fetal pain issue, the partial birth issue, and make a lot of young women feel better about making a hard choice. If abortion can be done with a 100% chance of painlessness, it would go down a lot easier with the general public.

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