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Did 41 Stand Up Against Alito? No.

AlterNet. Posted January 30, 2006.


72 to 25, the U.S. Senate voted to end debate and hold a vote to confirm Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito.
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It wasn't even close. Seventy-two senators voted to invoke cloture, and thus sealed the fate of President Bush's nominee Samuel Alito: a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court.

Alito will like be confirmed by a similar margin in Tuesday's confirmation vote, where only a simple majority of 51 senators is necessary.

Independent Jim Jeffords of Vermont and Republican Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island have stated they intend to vote against Alito on Tuesday. So far, four Democratic senators have publicly stated they will vote to confirm Alito: Robert C. Byrd of West Virginia, Tim Johnson of South Dakota, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Kent Conrad of North Dakota.

It was a surprise to many that only 25 Senators voted against cloture. As of Sunday, Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin told the press he had 37 of the 41 votes necessary to support a filibuster of Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito.

All eight Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee were in unison in their voting against Alito before his nomination made it to the floor. Because Alito has passed committee -- on a strict party-line, 10-8 vote -- the filibuster was the only mechanism that would have prevented his confirmation. Filibusters permit senators to block or hold a measure or nominee whether or not they are in a majority. Senate rules -- which Bill Frist had been threatening to "nuke" back in 2005 -- state that if one member wants to debate or introduce motions and amendments they can do so for as long as they like unless cloture, which requires 60 votes, is invoked.

Even for the prospect of the filibuster to have proceeded as far as it did is a testament to the hard work and power of activists and progressive online media outlets. Bob Fertik of Democrats.com, the news site BuzzFlash.com and the Young Turks radio show led by host Cenk Uygur were some of the early and most earnest advocates for Democrats to come out and push hard for a filibuster when the media and the "Washington consensus" had already named Alito to the Supreme Court. John Kerry was reminded of his campaign pledge to filibuster any nominee who would not protect Roe v. Wade, and eventually with the aid of Sen. Edward Kennedy, Kerry turned the tide.

By the late weekend, Democrats who had come to view an Alito nomination as a done deal eventually -- and grudgingly -- said they would support a filibuster, even as they publicly stated a filibuster would never work.

Illinois Democratic Sen. Barack Obama was reported to have criticized the idea of filibustering Alito earlier last week, but on Sunday he pledged he would vote for one. Obama didn't muster up much enthusiasm for it as a political tactic, however. "There's one way to guarantee that the judges who are appointed to the Supreme Court are judges that reflect [Democratic] values," Obama said. "And that's to win elections."

Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware was less sanguine over the weekend even as he promised a vote against Alito. "I think a filibuster makes sense when you have a prospect of actually succeeding," said Biden, adding, "I will vote one time to continue the debate." Biden said that in any case, "the fact of the matter" was that Alito would be confirmed. Minority Whip Dick Durbin on the other hand said it was going to be much easier for him to cast a "no" vote against Alito than it was for his "no" vote against the previous nominee, John Roberts.

While the line of questioning the Senate Democrats took in the Judiciary Committee hearings with Alito often appeared to be more about political vanity than hard questions about the role of power in the executive branch, it has to be recognized that the political opportunity was once again there for the Democrats' taking, only to be rejected in favor of a cautious approach that has paid few dividends since Bush took office.

Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee's rationale for voting against Alito on Tuesday was that the idea of Alito being on the Supreme Court went against his "pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-Bill of Rights" sensibilities. One wonders, what exactly are the sensibilities of the Democrats who will vote to confirm Alito?

Note: This article has been updated since the Senate cloture vote on Monday.

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Say it long and loud
Posted by: Plexius on Jan 30, 2006 1:55 AM   
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A filibuster is a marvelous opportunity to reveal the shadowy disingenuousness of Malito's positions (or "seeming" lack of them). Pounding moderate Republican's heads with such information for umpteen hours might penetrate their dense matter enough that they will switch their votes to non-confirmation. And anti-filibuster, moderate Democrats might wake up to the reality that their cowardly, kissass support of Republicans will gain them nothing but an ousting from the political arena by Progressives who won't vote for such feckless wimps in the next congressional elections. Apparently, the migration of liberal voters to third-party Candidates With Balls hasn't impinged on the consciousness of eunuchs like Byrdshit and his spineless shufflers.

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» RE: Say it long and loud Posted by: munchkinpup
More Horsepucky
Posted by: AlanSmithee on Jan 30, 2006 4:43 AM   
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This happens over and over again. The dem rank-and-file threaten not to vote for the quislings in their party, but when election time rolls around the DNC propaganda machine waves their scary repub puppet. Then the dems march to the polls and vote them back into office like good little jellyfish.

Now there's enough cover for the spineless senators to make the right noises and still cave in to the administration's rethuglican bullies, we'll get to hear the usual rationalizations and quibbling until the next 'cause' comes along. Because, ScAlito or no ScAlito, dems will vote for whoever they're told to. The rest is hot air and bluster.

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» Nice summary Posted by: AlanSmithee
» RE: More Horsepucky Posted by: Lincoln fan
Problem cannot be solved with filibuster
Posted by: anothername on Jan 30, 2006 5:22 AM   
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The nomination of Sam Alito is different than the qualifications of Sam Alito.

First, the president is allowed to nominate, with the advice and CONSENT of the Senate. Thus, the president is entitled to nominate whomever he wishes, and the Senate is entitled to say "no" to whomever it wishes.

Second, I have a hard time justifying denying a position for any specific issue, whether it is abortion or something else. I absolutely want abortion to remain legal and easily accessible for women of all circumstances. If I were in the Senate, I might even vote against a nomination for that reason alone; however, I still would not be able to justify it on a judicial/qualification level.

Third, the reaon why I am furious about the Alito nomination is that it is another white male. We have had diversity on the Supreme Court for decades now. That diversity has led to a better appreciation for real-world consequences of Court decisions. While I do not want a quota for the Court, with specific seats set aside for men/women, whites/blacks/asians/white & non-white hispanics, gay/straight/transgender, neither do I want a Court that is dominated by white males.

This is also the reason why I oppose a filibuster led by Kennedy/Kerry. It is just more privileged white men objecting for what appears to be publicity. This is the real problem, and one that The Daily Show hit upon: The U.S. Congress is not diverse.

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» I disagree Posted by: brunowe
» RE: I disagree Posted by: saywhat?
» RE: I disagree Posted by: brunowe
» RE: I disagree Posted by: duck-lady
Am afraid of fascism
Posted by: rnagisetty on Jan 30, 2006 6:04 AM   
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We are gradually sliding into fascism. The fact that what we have now in the whitehouse is a fascist hunta is clear. The Senate and the Congress don't have the guts to stand up to this aggressive, in-your-face, corporatist capitalism. If we lose the supreme court, we are done for. Next time we will have a government of the people by the people for the people will be long into the future if we don't fight every step of the way. This is a life time appointment for a Fascist son of a bitch. Folks, wake up and smell the salts. This guy voted in most of the cases against the little people. Obama says we have to win elections. That is right but if you alllow the court to be stacked with fascists, how many elections do you have to win before you get a reasonable court representing ordinary people? Please cut the crap and civilities. These are no ordinary times. We are on the verge of losing everything.
I am so disgusted with Byrd. Such a hollow person. He is making another horrendous mistake of his life. This is as bad as joining the KKK and voting against rights for the black people.

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» RE: Am afraid of fascism Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: Am afraid of fascism Posted by: holli
» RE: Am afraid of fascism Posted by: jag585
» RE: Am afraid of fascism Posted by: TheJamea
don't roll over
Posted by: saywhat? on Jan 30, 2006 6:28 AM   
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dear democrats,

when will the perfect moment come to be stellar? when will the moment come that , like obama says, we win elections? i am waiting for that perfect moment!

please worry about our bill of rights today and if you are a liitle rough around the edges i won't care.

sorry if i am leaning on you for procedural measures. it's just that we are in the midst of a constitutional crisis right now and well, you are a representative.

?????

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IT'S NOW OR NEVER
Posted by: doodles on Jan 30, 2006 6:38 AM   
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Talk about your activist judges. Imagine any Federal judge 10 years ago agreeing that a presidential signing memorandum had any meaning re: legislative intent. If you understand the Constitution you could not do that. When will the entire Congress wake up. This President and Alito represent the death of our democracy with their "unitary executive" that doesn't have to obey the law. All Senators should be thinking hard about this. It is their own power, as well as ours, they're about to turn over to the Executive. The filibuster is our last hope to save our form of check and balance government.

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Let the Republicans wear their yea votes as a necktie
Posted by: redfrog on Jan 30, 2006 6:53 AM   
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and let every Democrat who votes to confirm Alito as a noose. The people are pissed as hell, Senators. Let the Republicans who confirm this judge think about their being dictated to by the RR when we vote their asses out of office, too.

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Where's the integrity?
Posted by: manxome on Jan 30, 2006 7:14 AM   
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I know, it sounds like a joke question.

Integrity says that you do what is right, period. It does not matter what your proscpects for re-election are, or what you think the outcome of a vote will be.

When will be a convenient time for you to defend the Constitution?

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» RE: Where's the integrity? Posted by: Doubtom
citizen Eleanor
Posted by: newshound on Jan 30, 2006 10:56 AM   
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This is about elected representatives having integrity and standing up for what is right. This is about the future of our constitution, this is about over-reaching executive power, this is about maintaing balance on the court, this is about women's rights. Elected Republicans and Democrats have a duty to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Where are they?

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Re: Problem cannot be solved with a filibuster
Posted by: Democritus on Jan 30, 2006 11:17 AM   
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Let's fight one battle at a time. Getting more women in political and judicial offices is a long-term project. Getting Alito off the Supreme Court is a short-term project. It's not about grandstanding white males, it's about blocking an appointment of a man who will vote to gut our system of checks and balances--voting in ways to grant more power to the executive than our Constitution allows. A filibuster is the only way to prevent this from happening.

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gathaiga
Posted by: gathaiga on Jan 30, 2006 11:32 AM   
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Won't happen. Too many nutless wonders among the Dumbocrats. Gas bags up to their jowls in the feed trough.

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» RE: gathaiga Posted by: Fade
Snowe could be the lynch pin.
Posted by: jag585 on Jan 30, 2006 11:54 AM   
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It sure would be nice to see another republican with the courage of their convictions, rather than just going along with the crowd.

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Latest ...
Posted by: JoshuaHolland on Jan 30, 2006 12:07 PM   
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Is in The Mix.

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Just another minor issue folks....
Posted by: starvinmarvy on Jan 30, 2006 2:42 PM   
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The "power base" of this country ...uses tactics that could be
compared to the game of "chess"! They make moves years
removed....until their players are all in position...then move in for the "kill"!! It is happenening now ...as we read! Alito is
another game piece being moved into position. As much as
we...the concerned...kick and scream...there is nothing we can do.It`s their move again...and they`re moving in for check mate! This power base will not be denied! Until a more radical idea becomes a movement....bow your heads ..oh fellow citizens of mine ....and take the shit thats being shoveled on us! May the Power of Heavens look favorably on
the common people and empower us to change this direction!

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WE NOW KNOW OUR ANSWER
Posted by: krose on Jan 30, 2006 3:00 PM   
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THEY HAVE NOT STOOD UP FOR US!
EXCEPT FOR 25, MOST OF WHOM HAVE HAD THEIR "ARMS TWISTED" ALL WEEKEND, the rest were not brave! They did not stand tall in the face of IMPERIAL POWER and they did not do the RIGHT THING for the PEOPLE of this country! Instead, they listened to their "handlers" and their lobbiests. THEY DID NOT GROW A SPINE! I am exceptionally angry with Senator Lieberman, who I hope will be thrown out of office because of this vote! HOW DARE HE CALL HIMSELF A DEMOCRAT? I AM ASHAMED TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF AMONG THOSE IN MY PARTY WHO DEEMED IT APPROPRIATE TO VOTE AGAINST THIS FILIBUSTER! MAYBE IT IS NOW TIME FOR ME TO MAKE A CHANGE!

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Well, look on the bright side…
Posted by: DDZimm on Jan 30, 2006 3:11 PM   
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With Wall Street analysts prodding US companies to lean out, the impending burst of the housing bubble, the doubling of credit card interest rates, the changes in bankruptcy law, the impending economic collapse won’t leave enough infrastructure to RUN a police state capable of taking away our rights.

Which leads one to ask ‘How does one run a police state when sixty percent of its economy is in service industries? How does the rest of the world DEFEND itself against the police state when the very people suppressed DRIVE the rest of the world’s economy?’

But, I digress.

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Lee Christensen
Posted by: lee on Jan 30, 2006 3:28 PM   
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I agree. I am afraid of facism too. I just read 20 Amazing Facts About Voting In The United States by Bob Rowe. I read The Iron Heel by Jack London recently too. I dont thinkl there will be any "2008". It took 100 years. We better get what ever we must do ON NOW. L. Christensen

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Well, Gosh, That Was A Shocker.
Posted by: AlanSmithee on Jan 30, 2006 4:02 PM   
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Now all you faux-liberals go back to sleep until the election. Remember, you've got to wake up nice and early in Nov. to re-elect your "representatives."

Nighty-Night.

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********FIRST CALL TO ACTION***********
Posted by: krose on Jan 31, 2006 9:39 AM   
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********RUN SOMEONE AGAINST LIEBERMAN!*********

JOE'S GOTTA GO! HE'S SUCH A SHMO, THAT HE'S A NO!

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Self-Defeat Is Our Speciality
Posted by: Wacre on Jan 31, 2006 9:43 AM   
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"I think a filibuster makes sense when you have a prospect of actually succeeding," said Biden, adding "I will vote one time to continue the debate." Biden said that in any case, "the fact of the matter" was that Alito would be confirmed.

Wow! It's almost as if the Democrats to even need Republicans to screw up (though it does help).

Now let's see...it appears that Senator Joe Biden is saying that the filibuster in the case of Samuel Alito wouldn't work, so he isn't going to try.

Isn't this the kind of thinking that has almost rendered the Democrats almost a political afterthought? I don't know about the rest of you out in AlternetLand, but I really wish that Mr. Biden would just join the Republicans and be done with it so that he stops mudding the waters for those politicians that are trying to be real opposition to the Republicans.

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Irony
Posted by: cephalis on Jan 31, 2006 9:49 AM   
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Iraq gets democracy and we get a "Saddam-style" government. What a switcheroo!

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Not with a bang, but with a whimper
Posted by: left-leaning-libertarian on Jan 31, 2006 9:49 AM   
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The deed is done; democracy as we know it is in its death throes and no one will come to the fore in its aid.

A dictatorial executive, a rubber stamp legislature, a co-opted judiciary, a muzzled press, a slumbering populace.

No integrity, no honesty, no responsibility, no accountability, and all too soon, no freedom, no liberty, no security, no hope.

Give me a reason to go on living, goddammit!

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they never cease to disappoint....
Posted by: Cindy on Jan 31, 2006 10:37 AM   
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It felt like I was at least doing SOMETHING to flood every Senate and party office I could get to with messages to support democracy and allow debate to continue. That is to say "NO" to cloture. The responses I received from my calls ranged from the "full mailbox" message at Sen. Byrd's, to the curt, "I'll pass it along", at Sen. Salazar's to the "Gov. Dean has presented his views but it is not his role to discuss voting issues with senators".... from the DNC office.
Well, so much for the"opposition party".
Then I turned to C-Span and watched the vote in horror at what the Dems did and did not do. Well, so much for being Democrats.
And now sadly, thanks to them and their utter lack of backbone and true patriotism, so much for what's left of our Democracy.
I feel just great living in this nightmare world of "1984".

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The End. Suprem Court is now obsolete
Posted by: mom'z the word on Jan 31, 2006 11:58 AM   
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What does all this mean? Where are we headed? The very fact that a supreme court justice is appointed based on a straight party line vote says it all about our justice system. It is as corrupt as our party system. Our constitution is based soley on non partisan beliefs. There is not one mention of politics in the constitution. Our constitution is all about the power and rights of the individuals. in particular, the power of the voter. I think this appointment is the last straw and truly renders the supreme court obsolete. Used soley as a political tool it is useless as a equalizer. It will be impossible to render fair, equal, sane, reasonable decisions given the fact that all the justices' have political agendas. If we continue to look to the supreme court to uphold protect and defend our constitution knowing they are all beholding to their political backers is just pure foolishness on our part.

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I'll tell you what it all means...
Posted by: kww355 on Jan 31, 2006 12:24 PM   
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It means goodbye pseudo-democracy,hello true fascism. It means the last pitiful few "checks and balances" have been gleefully snuffed out by the Bushistas ( aided by a buncha wimpy Democrawlers !)

It means get your passports and get out while you still can.

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name names. do not re-elect.
Posted by: mister-wilson on Jan 31, 2006 1:08 PM   
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These people voted without a conscience and without regard for the people they represent. We need out them and the oust them. Blind faith in the party is foolish.

Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)

senate.gov: roll call

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» RE: name names. do not re-elect. Posted by: mister-wilson
Get to work now...
Posted by: AlanSmithee on Jan 31, 2006 2:37 PM   
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'cause it's gonna be a loooong haul!

Okay, it's been demonstrated to you yet again what a waste of oxygen the democrat party is. After Kerry's craven 2004 cave-in, after CAFTA and the bankruptcy bill and REAL ID and all the rest, it's finally been conclusively driven home what a giant nest of slime-covered toads the dem leadership really is.

Now, it's time to go to work.

Here's a head start for you:

GREEN PARTY OF AMERICA

WORKING FAMILIES PARTY

THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY

KEVIN ZEESE

LOWELL WEICKER

Find a party and start building. Find a candidate and start working. Finally, at last, find a goddamn spine and get to work!

'Cause, again, this is going to take years and years to fix. And there's no time left to screw around with democrats.

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» RE: Get to work now... Posted by: krose
Demodittos
Posted by: texshelters on Jan 31, 2006 3:31 PM   
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Any Demodittos (those that support Democrats even though the party as a whole votes against their best interests) still think the Demos care about the country and are actually against spying on the populace without just cause? If you still think they care, take a look at all the votes ProNAFTA, Partoit Act, Alito, Robert, Gonzales, no raise in the minimum wage, votes for a drug bill that gives drug companies even bigger profits and a bankruptcy bill that hurts workers and protects credit card companies. And don't tell me it's the only option we have; if it's a chocie between being shot by a Republican or slowly gassed by a Democrat, does it matter? And yes, I am active, and no, telling the truth is not whinning unless you don't like to hear the truth.

Yours,
Tex

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» RE: Demodittos Posted by: Lincoln fan
those who said it would do not good
Posted by: Unbowed on Feb 1, 2006 8:28 AM   
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You were right. I was wrong. I have written my last letter to the Democrats. They have won my disdain at last. It was not easy as I am steadfast as a friend and I had hope they would stand up. I don't know who will help us now but I see it will not be them. I am a Democrat no more. They are pathetic I am free now of my allusions. I have resigned as a member.

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burn it, burn it all down
Posted by: DaBear on Feb 1, 2006 12:40 PM   
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That's all that's left. Politics is a rich man's game. We just need to start burning sh*t down, all of it. Without their stuff, the rich guy is a total infant, he's scared and powerless, then we can lock him up and let him grow up at his own expense instead of ours. Then maybe we can try to build something that looks like a Democracy.

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