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Rights and Liberties

A Constitutional Crisis

By Al Gore, AlterNet. Posted January 17, 2006.


The former vice president warns us what can happen without congressional oversight over a defiant White House.
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Editor's Note: Following is the text of a speech delivered by Al Gore in Washington, D.C. on January 16. Gore was introduced by former Republican congressman Bob Barr, an arch-conservative advocate of privacy rights.

Congressman Barr and I have disagreed many times over the years, but we have joined together today with thousands of our fellow citizens -- Democrats and Republicans alike -- to express our shared concern that America's Constitution is in grave danger.

In spite of our differences over ideology and politics, we are in strong agreement that the American values we hold most dear have been placed at serious risk by the unprecedented claims of the Administration to a truly breathtaking expansion of executive power.

As we begin this new year, the Executive Branch of our government has been caught eavesdropping on huge numbers of American citizens and has brazenly declared that it has the unilateral right to continue without regard to the established law enacted by Congress to prevent such abuses.

It is imperative that respect for the rule of law be restored.

So, many of us have come here to Constitution Hall to sound an alarm and call upon our fellow citizens to put aside partisan differences and join with us in demanding that our Constitution be defended and preserved.

It is appropriate that we make this appeal on the day our nation has set aside to honor the life and legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who challenged America to breathe new life into our oldest values by extending its promise to all our people.

On this particular Martin Luther King Day, it is especially important to recall that for the last several years of his life, Dr. King was illegally wiretapped -- one of hundreds of thousands of Americans whose private communications were intercepted by the U.S. government during this period.

The FBI privately called King the "most dangerous and effective negro leader in the country" and vowed to "take him off his pedestal." The government even attempted to destroy his marriage and blackmail him into committing suicide.

This campaign continued until Dr. King's murder. The discovery that the FBI conducted a long-running and extensive campaign of secret electronic surveillance designed to infiltrate the inner workings of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and to learn the most intimate details of Dr. King's life, helped to convince Congress to enact restrictions on wiretapping.

The result was the Foreign Intelligence and Surveillance Act (FISA), which was enacted expressly to ensure that foreign intelligence surveillance would be presented to an impartial judge to verify that there is a sufficient cause for the surveillance. I voted for that law during my first term in Congress and for almost thirty years the system has proven a workable and valued means of according a level of protection for private citizens, while permitting foreign surveillance to continue.

Yet, just one month ago, Americans awoke to the shocking news that in spite of this long settled law, the Executive Branch has been secretly spying on large numbers of Americans for the last four years and eavesdropping on "large volumes of telephone calls, email messages, and other Internet traffic inside the United States." The New York Times reported that the President decided to launch this massive eavesdropping program "without search warrants or any new laws that would permit such domestic intelligence collection."

During the period when this eavesdropping was still secret, the President went out of his way to reassure the American people on more than one occasion that, of course, judicial permission is required for any government spying on American citizens and that, of course, these constitutional safeguards were still in place.

But surprisingly, the President's soothing statements turned out to be false. Moreover, as soon as this massive domestic spying program was uncovered by the press, the President not only confirmed that the story was true, but also declared that he has no intention of bringing these wholesale invasions of privacy to an end.

At present, we still have much to learn about the NSA's domestic surveillance. What we do know about this pervasive wiretapping virtually compels the conclusion that the President of the United States has been breaking the law repeatedly and persistently.

A president who breaks the law is a threat to the very structure of our government. Our Founding Fathers were adamant that they had established a government of laws and not men. Indeed, they recognized that the structure of government they had enshrined in our Constitution -- our system of checks and balances -- was designed with a central purpose of ensuring that it would govern through the rule of law. As John Adams said: "The executive shall never exercise the legislative and judicial powers, or either of them, to the end that it may be a government of laws and not of men."


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Let us hope this excellent speech has carry thru
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Jan 17, 2006 1:06 AM   
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Too bad the Supreme Court elected Bush instead of Gore.

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» PRESIDENT GORE 2008! Posted by: Qwerty
» RE: PRESIDENT GORE 2008! Posted by: YogiBear
Let us hope this excellent speech has carry thru
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Jan 17, 2006 1:06 AM   
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Too bad the Supreme Court elected Bush instead of Gore.

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Let us hope this excellent speech has carry thru
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Jan 17, 2006 1:06 AM   
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Too bad the Supreme Court elected Bush instead of Gore.

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MargoM
Posted by: MargoM on Jan 17, 2006 3:06 AM   
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I was there yesterday at the Daughters of the Revolution Hall. He covered more territory than I expected he would - and I was glad for that!

It was also televized on CSpan, so I hope that maybe it will give some impetus to an effort to address some Washington issues -- including the NSA & FBI eavesdropping, protection for executive branch whistleblowers, the lobbying mess, etc.

His speach was pretty powerful and got several standing ovations. I couldn't help but think of the book I read a couple years "The Cheating Culture" about corruption in the U.S. in all sorts of arenas (i.e., academic, corporate, government, sports, etc.). There is NO RESPECT for the rule of law in the United States, or it is greatly undermined. And to think that it is even at the very top levels - past even Martha Stewart and Enron - up to the leaders of our country. Something has to be done. But I think that it is also cultural, like the book "The Cheating Culture" says.

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» RE: MargoM Posted by: Samantha Vimes
» RE: MargoM Posted by: mmacb
God Bless Al Gore... BRAVO Mr. Gore !!!
Posted by: WizardATMz on Jan 17, 2006 3:42 AM   
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I watched Al Gore on CSPAN about an hour ago. I felt relief. As a Canadian, I have been extemely saddend to watch as your great country seems to be evolving into some sort of Big Brother Imperialistic, if not Facist Dictatorship. And the loss of rights and abuses of your Constitution seemed to this observer to be fast tracking... kind of like Bush saying if you don't like what I'm doing or how I do it, then you must be in support of Terrorism... "yer either with me, or agin me".

Besides verifying what I, and many of you suspected, I am hoping that Al Gores speech becomes a rallying point for all Americans to hold the Executive Branch ACCOUNTABLE. They will fight like bastards I am sure to squash and silence any and all opposition. I think they think they are unstoppable (I was beginning to think that was the case and the Free World as we knew it was on a fast track to a police state where your Constitution could be suspended very easily under any guise that suited the purpose of the day.
The rule of law is what this is all about, and for Americans to stand by timidly while the Executive Branch rewrites or interprets the laws to suit their own diabolical purposes, shows just how far this Adminsitration has gone when the whole country is scared to stand up and challenge this obvious disregard... as if Mr. Almighty and his band of gangsters are above the law... I think not. Although it was beginning to appear that way to me.
I also think, that when someone of Al Gores stature stands up and iterates the message I heard tonight, then I also think that sort of gesture will encourage average Americans to wake up and get the ball rolling to get rid of your current President, or failing that, at least hold the Administration accountable for their abuses and total disregard for the Constitution of The United States of American.
The framers of your constitution knew of what they spoke, and I feel any attempt to thwart or minimize the power of your constitution should be dealt with swiftly, and clearly and in a non-partisan manner.
Gore's speech certainly gave this cynic hope... and that has been sadly lacking of late.
Bravo Mr. Gore... finally someone with balls enough to take on his imperial highness and tell it like it is, and further, offer up real workable solutions to reign in these egomaniacs, and put the power back where it belongs... into the hands of the people.

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CONTEMPT FOR THE LAW
Posted by: rabblerowzer on Jan 17, 2006 3:55 AM   
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CONTEMPT FOR THE LAW

“In the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll, 51 percent said that "wiretapping of telephone calls and e-mails without court approval" was an acceptable tool for the federal government to use when investigating terrorism. Forty-seven percent said it was an unacceptable for the government to use those methods in order to catch suspected terrorists.”

Nothing prevented this administration from legally wiretapping telephone calls and e-mails, so why did they choose to do it illegally? What are they hiding?

For years Republicans has espoused contempt for government which in turn has encouraged contempt for the law. Our society is infected with widespread corruption which has filtered down from anti-government ideologues serving as elected and appointed public servants. When presidents, congressman and judges promote and demonstrate contempt for the law, lawlessness becomes the law of the land.

The lesson they are teaching is: Law-abiding citizens are fools. Join us together in corruption, crime is the fast track to riches.

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» RE: CONTEMPT FOR THE LAW Posted by: jag585
» RE: CONTEMPT FOR THE LAW Posted by: patti_s
And now...
Posted by: Urstrly on Jan 17, 2006 4:04 AM   
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While every word out of Al Gore's mouth has the ring of truth, the fact is that MLK lived his talk, and we are all going to have to do something more than applaud speeches if we are to stop this imperial presidency. I am still angry that Gore and John Kerry conceded their contests with Bush so quickly; the presidency was not theirs to toss away in a gentlemanly gesture. We were robbed. So I'm not sure who Al Gore is lecturing. We know the President acted illegally. We know that Alito will help consolidate executive power. We know the Senate Democrats are not going to muster a filibuster to stop him. Gore will retreat now to his personal corporate hideaway until he makes another pronouncement. What are we going to DO?

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» RE: And now... Posted by: Ellen Remore
» RE: And now... Posted by: YogiBear
Perverse Grand Standing Mr. Gore.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jan 17, 2006 5:08 AM   
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“It is imperative that respect for the rule of law be restored.”

Dear Mr. Gore, there are two things hypocritical with your suggestion: first, your administration under Mr. Clinton also had gross disrespect for the law. For example, you were caught soliciting campaign contributions from the White House; Mr. Clinton lied under oath, and he commenced a war in Yugoslavia without a constitutionally required declaration of war. These offenses were disrespect of the law by leaders who knew or should have known better.

No, a respect for the law is not what is lacking in American politics. What is needed is an ethical, critical thinking population who will not coddle grand standing or rogue politicians. We have only ourselves to blame.

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» Actually I have! LOL Posted by: Pepper
» RE: Actually I have! LOL Posted by: gonzoskismet
» RE:Most excelent, Pepper! I am impressed! Posted by: Againstthewindwalking
» RE: Perverse Grand Standing Mr. Gore. Posted by: liberalibrarian
» yeah... Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: yeah... Posted by: doodles
Bicker, Bicker, Bicker
Posted by: Riverside on Jan 17, 2006 5:18 AM   
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Folks, for the sake of this nation and our rights thereunder, lets stop the bickering about Gore, Kerry, etc. Let's read the words, they are the first real call to action since all this mess started.

No, we don't go get out muskets and head for some new "Bunker Hill." We get organized, we make sure our votes are recorded and counted, and we begin the process in this mid-election year of revitalizing our Congress. At the same time, we need to mount letter, phone call, word of mouth, email, even morse code campaigns to pass the word that its is time for we the people to come together as one. We can get back to the business of our particular political philosophies AFTER we save this nation. Right now, none of our political philosophies are doing anything to save this country and thus our liberty.

There are many members of Congress who feel as we do and they belong to both parties. We need to give them our unified support. We need to bury the hate that has been manufactured between us, and get back together.

We are Americans, and we are a great nation in trouble. As always it is "we the people" who come together to help, and now is that time. Lets not fail America or ourselves.

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» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: douglashoyt
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: Riverside
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: Pepper
» if your beliefs include... Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: What the hell are you talking about??!! Posted by: Againstthewindwalking
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: HuckFinn
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: Roverton
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: jbloggz
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: patti_s
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: doodles
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: Ellen Remore
Why Blame Republicans?
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jan 17, 2006 5:20 AM   
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You should know that the Democrats are just as guilty in disrespect for the law.

What are we going to do?

First, the people must gain meaningful control of the election system. Half the voters don't vote, I believe, because the available candidates have no relevence to the voters belief system.

We need proportional representation in todays America. 200 years ago, this nation was 3 million northern European population. The native Americans and blacks were disenfrancized.

Today, we are 300 million of creeds from every part of the globe. And everyone, except convicted felons, can vote.

Then there are voting machines...

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» RE: Why Blame Republicans? Posted by: satyagirl
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» RE: Why Blame Republicans? Posted by: Basenjis
Where is the word "impeach"?
Posted by: artie on Jan 17, 2006 5:22 AM   
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Why doesn't Gore actually use the words "impeach" or "impeachment"? To allow himself the truthful denial, "I never actually stated that the President should be impeached or that impeachment proceedings should commence. That is simply a misconstrual of my words"? And why not?
Let's recall Twain's characterization of Congress, as fitting today as ever: "The best that money can buy!"

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Gore for President
Posted by: johncleek on Jan 17, 2006 5:51 AM   
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Isn't it rather strange that in all the talk about finding a suitable candidate for 2008, there isn't a movement to draft Al Gore to run?

We elected him once, and let the courts steal the office. Look what it got us. We need to draft the best qualified candidate and see to it that the plurality is too great to be overturned by the Court.

John Cleek

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» GORE FOR PRESIDENT 2008 Posted by: Qwerty
FINALLY, someone of stature and high exposure is speaking out!
Posted by: Pepper on Jan 17, 2006 5:52 AM   
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I can't believe it has taken 4 years for that to happen when many of us saw this within 4 months of 9-11. If you believe in the SYSTEM and not the "MAN" it would have been obvious to you. (At least it was to me)

I appreciate his call to action and his pointing out our role in this and our responsibility to fix it. We are, after all, the "PEOPLE" referenced in that great document. Now we need to make our reps and senators RECALL AND RECITE THEIR OATH OF OFFICE TO REMIND THEM OF THEIR DUTY TO THEIR MASTERS (US). They are the servants and we are the masters.

Government is what the Constitution was drafted for: to protect those inherent rights given to us by God and can not be taken away by man. LETS NEVER FORGET THAT AND FEAR WILL GO BY THE WAYSIDE.

Here is something for 'Doug' since he seems to have lost his way with respect to our system of governance (thats if he ever had a path in that direction):

"No legislative act contrary to the Constitution can be valid.
To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy (agent) is greater
than his principal; that the servant is above the master;
that the representatives of the people are superior to the people;
that men, acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers
do not authorize, but what they forbid. It is not to be supposed that
the Constitution could intend to enable the representatives
of the people to substitute their will to that of their constituents.
A Constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by judges as
fundamental law. If there should happen to be a irreconcilable variance
between the two, the Constitution is to be preferred to the statute."

-- Alexander Hamilton

Try reading and engage in some depth of learning there, Doug, so you understand the issues at hand. It would be sad if your TV is your only source of knowledge. You would be doomed to thoughtless blind adherence to your slave master in the end. LOL

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» " Nah, nah. " Posted by: Pepper
Related Issues.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jan 17, 2006 6:35 AM   
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"Noam Chomsky: George Bush would be in severe political trouble if there were an opposition political party in the country. Just about every day, they're shooting themselves in the foot. The striking fact about contemporary American politics is that the Democrats are making almost no gain from this. The only gain that they're getting is that the Republicans are losing support. Now, again, an opposition party would be making hay, but the Democrats are so close in policy to the Republicans that they can't do anything about it. When they try to say something about Iraq, George Bush turns back to them, or Karl Rove turns back to them, and says, "How can you criticize it? You all voted for it." And, yeah, they're basically correct."

"http://www.zmag.org/content/
showarticle.cfm?SectionID=
15&ItemID=9533"

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» RE: elated Issues. Posted by: liberalibrarian
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» RE: elated Issues. Posted by: YogiBear
Gonzalez strikes back?
Posted by: bookwoman on Jan 17, 2006 8:35 AM   
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I heard this morning that Attorney General Gonzalez reported, on television on Sunday, that the Clinton Administration also spied on U. S. citizens. I guess he claims they wrote down license numbers or something like that. At any rate, it was so innocuous that the phrase "grasping at straws" entered my mind.

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» RE: Gonzalez strikes back? Posted by: doodles
» RE: Gonzalez strikes back? Posted by: Glennk1949
Fear trumps Outrage
Posted by: doodles on Jan 17, 2006 8:51 AM   
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Gore missed a bet. He didn't say long or loud enough that the Bushes of this world want people to be afraid. I keep waiting for "the People" to get really angry at this administration's continuing efforts to frighten them. Instead a majority of them seem to have bought into it and are reacting accordingly. There is a line from an old movie, "Keeper of the Flame," in which the Nazi sympathizer's thought are read: "If you can frighten the people, you can confuse them. And if you can confuse them, you can control them." That's why Churchill and Roosevelt talked to the people about not being afraid. Fear is now and has always been the enemy of democracy. Until "the People" are more angry about being afraid than they are afraid, nothing will change. It's time for people to get mad and they need a leader that will help them get mad. Our way of life is in mortal danger. Our Constitution, our rights are being ignored. It is up to us to demand that it be stopped. But we need someone to rally around. I don't see anyone yet who can be the rally point, not Gore, and certainly not Hillary. Will someone with gumption and eloquence please step up?

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» RE: Fear trumps Outrage Posted by: YogiBear
Mr. Gore, please lead your people.
Posted by: hanex on Jan 17, 2006 8:52 AM   
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Unfortunately, speeches are not going to do anything. If you want change you will have to make change. Take a look at what Martin Luther King's life was like. He didn't get up every morning, browse to alternet and forward emails he agreed with, HE WORKED FOR CHANGE.

Mr. Gore will need to mobilize americans if he wants to push this issue. What happened to activism? Are we just so pacive and naive that we think these problems will solve themselves? Why does it take Cindy Sheehan or Michael Moore to launch massive rallies. If these are the people who are leading, then maybe they should get elected. I agree with Mr. Gore, BUT, it reminds me of a line from Braveheart.

"These are your people, and if you would just lead them, they would follow you".

Mr. Gore, your people need action now, not words.

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» RE: Mr. Gore, please lead your people. Posted by: liberalibrarian
» PRESIDENT GORE 2008! Posted by: Qwerty
The issue at hand is both for Republicans and Democrats to heed--
Posted by: gh on Jan 17, 2006 9:06 AM   
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This is for all of us to do something. This isn't just Republicans or Democrats who brought us to this point. It is We the People who allowed it to get to this point, and still we bicker, namecall, and pick at trivia.

I don't care if 'John Doe' gave the speech; there's truth in every statement. I'm glad Al Gore gave it because he has name recognition. The point, however, is not the speaker, or the party. The point is in what has been said.

We, the people, what have we become? Watch TV ads and see what large corporations think appeals to us. It doesn't make me proud.

The measure of mankind is how well do we treat our poor, our disabled, our homeless, our needy and our sick? AND how well do we treat and educate our children, those just growing to be, and those in the midst of being--all of them--children.

It isn't pretty.

And only all of us together can change what is going on right now, right today.

Each of us apart, well, there is no power in separatism when it comes to We, the people.

Step one, it seems to me, is to demand impeachment of Bush and Cheney. Demand so loud and so long that We, the People, will be heard.

This point reached where this President is at--he didn't get there on his own. He had help. Like Gore says, this movement of power to the president started long before this fool came in office. (This creature just made it more obvious, more blatant, and therefore, all the more insulting by his actions.)

So, now what?

Georgia Hedrick
retired teacher

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Weak
Posted by: ScottP on Jan 17, 2006 9:11 AM   
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While I agree with Gore on most points, what is not said is most telling.

For example, he says "we still have much to learn about the NSA's domestic surveillance". The way I remember it, by the time he was VP, the NSA had already established virtually complete surveillance of domestic communications. Yes, all phone calls. That's how they can collect the key ones, by listening to all. I don't recall him ever suggesting cutting NSA funding in retaliation, therefor he implicitly approved it.

He goes on to support the war on terror, claiming it's a serious threat. Come on, where does it appear in the cause-of-death list? Between bee stings and lightning strikes? Even in it's record year, terrorism couldn't claim 1/10th the lives that auto accidents claim every year. Much less heart disease, which comes in over 100 times the worst ever terrorism year. So rather than talk about how many deaths sedentary lifestyles and french fries cause, he takes the fear-monger approach.

Perhaps we could go to the battlefield. Where his administration was the first to use tactical nuclear weapons (depleted uranium artillery and bullets), in Kosovo.

I completely agree that in almost all regards the current administration is worse than Clinton/Gore, and worst than Gore would have been. Bush's rampant use of torture, uranium weapons, and destruction of Iraq are all war crimes crying for prison sentences. Bush's appointees reek of fascism. Bush's denial of science is reprehensible.

But why don't we listen to someone who actually speaks from the high ground rather than the middle ground, why not listen to a Chomsky or a Sanders or a Kucinich?

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Absolutely right, but unrealistic
Posted by: Ellen Remore on Jan 17, 2006 9:37 AM   
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Bravo to Al Gore for finally voicing what so many of us have been waiting to hear. However, I only wish I could share his optimism about the American public rising up to heal the country's wounds. The American public is comprised of such a disproportionate percentage of idiots that most of it is probably more cognizant of who's likely to be the next American Idol than of anything contained in the American Constitution. Look who they put in the Oval Office, for godssake! Frankly, I can't think of a more fertile breeding ground for a full-blown police state (as opposed to the burgeoning one we have now) than right here in the good ol' US of A. Sorry, Mr. Gore, there's just too damn much wretched refuse in this country--some of which has been here since the Pilgrims started committing genocide on the indigenous population. We're doomed. Personally, I'm so sick and disgusted with what this country has become that I sometimes find myself wishing my grandparents had never emigrated.

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» but we actually elected Gore Posted by: Iconoclast421
Grave concern
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Jan 17, 2006 9:43 AM   
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Of course the present overreaching of the president for power in defiance of our Constitiution must be stopped. This is an emergency. The Constitiution must be upheld at all costs. The first order of business should be impeachment of the president as well as those in legal succession who don't obey the law of the land.

Of equal concern to me is this paraphrase of Lincollon's famous words "government of the people, by the peopl;e, and for the people".

It means that the people of this nation ultimately determine its course.

Unfortunately we cannot determine its course because both parties are owned by the corporatocracy that finances their campaigns. Both parties represent the corporate establishment and not the people.

Our founding fathers fought our Revolution with the battlecry "Taxation without representation is tyranny!" That tyranny must be overthrown by today's patriots. The place to attack is the place where the people's political power is bought and sold. This is at the top level of leadership of both parties.

We must take control of both parties before the 2006 election. And it can be done by a grassroots movement to demand that both parties address the issues of the people or face the loss of our votes. Too long voters have played the game of voting for the lesser of the evils and held their noses and pulled the lever.

Join The Lincoln Initiative a true grassroots movement with no organization, no leaders, no dues, no contributions, no registration, no meetings, no marches, no hassle. Fight the revolution in the comfort of your own home. Help make "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" areality. Click on a new idea

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A strong, third party is needed.....
Posted by: mendomama on Jan 17, 2006 11:12 AM   
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Gore's speech was, in my opinion, articulate, passionate, and very inspirational. He zeroed in on why each of us should be outraged by the actions of the current Administration, and why we should all do our part to stand up to the arrogant disregard for our Constitution that this Administration continues to display.

News outlets, such as CNN, Fox, and MSNBC, continue to spout how a majority of Americans are not outraged by the latest revelations of warrantless wiretapping of Americans. They point to polls, which they say indicate that this isn't a big issue for most Americans. When was the last time anyone here was polled by any of major polling organization? I, for one, have never been included in any national poll. I've never even KNOWN someone that was included in one of these polls. How could their findings truly represent people whose views have never been inquired about? They don't.

I know people from both ends of the political spectrum, and everywhere in beween, yet, I don't know ONE that isn't outraged by the NSA spy scandal, not to mention the various other scandals coming out of this Administration. Including people that voted for Bush in the last two elections.

However, I don't see Democrats being our saviours in all this. If that were the case, then we would've seen more from them the last five years. Maybe they aren't at the center of the latest scandals, but they did, in fact, stand by and watch them occur (less a few genuine elected officials).

Perhaps what's needed, is for these strong leaders to branch out and form a new party, rather than attempting to achieve change in a corrupt, two-party system. Democrats or Republicans? Why are these are only choices? They sure as hell aren't the best choices.

If people like Kucinich, Obama, Conyers, Gore, and others who appear to have a spine (actually attached to a functioning brain), would unite with each other and form a new party, I'd be out knocking on doors in my little Midwestern town, urging folks to vote for them. I want to get off this road as much as anyone, but I don't see how Democrats (in general) are much better than Republicans. People are scared of voting for a third party, for fear that Repubs would win due to a split in the vote - but, the truth is, AMERICANS, not just Democrats, are outraged by their political leaders. I believe a strong, third party opposition is just what we need.

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WHERE THE HELL WAS THIS WRATH FOUR GODDAMN YEARS AGO?
Posted by: miz on Jan 17, 2006 11:27 AM   
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When Congress was supposed to debate going to war, only six senators in Congress showed up! The words that hung in the air were one senator wondering WHERE THE HELL WAS EVERYBODY? Answer: Scared shitless by either terrorism or the ire of the cowardly half of the American people who shouted the loudest "PROTECT OUR SORRY ASSES - to hell with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights!" The other half of this nation could not counter the mountainous sludge of the Rabid Right because THE MEDIA WERE JUST AS COWARDLY by their outright refusing to follow the simplist journalistic guideline: always provide the pro AND CON points of view on ANY issue. How DARE WE permit A SPINELESSLY REPUGNANT CONGRESS and the MILITARY to hide like the COWARDS THEY ALL ARE are (save one woman who voted against the war) behind censoring due to "national security?" When the security of the ENTIRE WORLD is involved, the security of not just OUR PIECE OF THE ROCK but the WHOLE DAMN ROCK nullifies THAT pathetic excuse! FOR SHAME AMERICAN PRESS!

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Shout!!!
Posted by: saywhat? on Jan 17, 2006 11:40 AM   
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When our constitution is unravelling before our eyes it is more difficult to retrieve the losses. I really wonder how MLK would do it in this day and age, or Malcolm X? it sure is refreshing to hear Al gore being feisty .

I really think that the American public originally elected Al Gore and not getting into the florida controversy, he had 500,000 more votes. Am i mistaken to think that the american public doesn't like this current president and the direction we're heading?

Anyway the question of leadership sure is a good one , but having free and fair elections with strong voter turnout is also another. the third is elected officials who can address the sickness of america with conviction .

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You can mention
Posted by: badkitty53 on Jan 17, 2006 1:25 PM   
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You can mention "impeachment", "illegally elected", "lies about Iraq", to your senators and representatives all you want, and if you get an honest response, let me know. I started in September 2002, and my senators are Feinstein and Boxer, and my representative is Barbara Lee, and it's true Boxer has said many wonderful things, and stood up for us last January, but I have yet to see a response anything other than thank you for your views. I feel like a nut case, bringing these things up every time I email.

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Thank you Al Gore
Posted by: feduphoosier on Jan 17, 2006 2:09 PM   
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Hail to the real Chief.

Thanks for speaking out on our behalf, and on behalf of our Constitution. It appears everyone else in the ranks of the Democratic Party is too pistol-whipped by the Republican power machine to even squeak, let alone stand up and yell. I suspect they all have too much to lose, and so as usual, they stand for absolutely nothing. Are the Republicans that scary? I am not afraid of them. I will bow to no bully in my lifetime.

I wish you would run again. Your fearless adherence to what is right, what is true, and what is law would make you the only candidate I could support in this era of government corruption and greed. I think even Nader would vote for you right now.

By the way, where is Nader?

Surely, he would be speaking out against this too? Or was his sole purpose to sideswipe Gore and guarantee a Bush Imperial Monarchy?

If he really has an ax to grind, why don't we hear him giving speeches and taking Bush to task for shredding our Constitution, enthroning corporations, giving sweeping tax breaks to the rich, cutting social services to just about everyone else, for Bush’s ‘stellar’ response to Katrina and the FEMA debacle, for the horrific Republican and big oil attacks on our national parks, nature preserves, the environment, global warming… the list is endless.

Where is Mr. Nader?

If we are graced with every ignorant utterance of Pat Robertson, surely we would be granted a public audience with Ralph Nader. Is he also a victim of the know-nothing corporate media?

I wonder.

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» RE: www.nader.org Posted by: ScottP
Where?
Posted by: fdr_vindicated on Jan 17, 2006 4:09 PM   
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So Gore has spoken out powerfully, but where is Bill Clinton (maybe getting another blowjob from an intern)? If Bill Clinton would only shake off his enslavement to mid-life sexual crisis and the love of corporate dollars, and speak out as his VP has, then maybe things might start to roll. Clinton still has more support than the fascist in the White House. He is the key to getting things going.

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» well... Posted by: Iconoclast421
Our government has done it for years, already.
Posted by: torsers2 on Jan 17, 2006 5:10 PM   
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Now they are finally coming out about it. i'm sure Clinton/ Gore presidency wiretapped also. What i say is that Gore is not fond of our presidents party and other issues Bush has taken on. Now he has found something to complain about therefore, giving our public a reason to belittle Bush.

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Al Gore Hits the Nail on the Head
Posted by: drpiano55 on Jan 17, 2006 7:08 PM   
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The sitting president--the Oval Office Oaf--controlled by the Rovistas, represents the most dangerous administration in the history of these United States. This president--the Butcher of Crawford--may well go down in history as the most scurrilous leader of the entire twenty-first century.

Impeach this man, this administration. Impeach them today.

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A Constitutional Crisis
Posted by: sidewinder on Jan 17, 2006 7:55 PM   
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Folks, don't take seriously anything this asshole says, Al Gore is nothing but a stand-up comic.

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» RE: A Constitutional Crisis Posted by: saywhat?
There's Already a Third Party--Think Green!
Posted by: PoetWarrior on Jan 17, 2006 10:55 PM   
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If you want a third party, there is already a progressvie third party in the US--Green Party of the United States. If your state does not have a Green Party, help start one!

Don't mourn. Organize.

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Wake up, Al
Posted by: technocrat on Jan 18, 2006 6:33 PM   
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It is disappointing that Al Gore suscribes to the government li(n)e, expertly hyped the corporate-controlled media, that Sept. 11 was the work of foreign terrorists. The perpetrators were simply willing stooges of a far more sinister cadre of home-grown thugs, VP Cheney at their head, who orchestrated the horrible deed to give themselves free license both to invade other countries not amenable to the takeover of their lands and resources by the global corporate empire, and to suppress opposition within this country to their aims. The notion that this country is actively combating terrorism would be laughable if it weren't so tragically ironic. For decades this nation has both trained and used terrorists to advance the global agenda of its ruling elite and to perpetuate an atmosphere of fear, unrest and armed conflict to fatten the coffers and extend the influence (at the cost of untold numbers of lives, American and otherwise) of the military/industrial complex of which President Eisenhower warned us fifty years ago.
Serious investigation into 9/11 is constantly revealing the truth about this watershed event in the takeover of this country by the global elite. History will rightfully depict this period as the darkest moment in the American experiment.

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» RE: Wake up, Al Posted by: martymartin
Marty
Posted by: martymartin on Jan 18, 2006 8:05 PM   
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Only a shocking realization will stir the American people to effective action at this late hour.

911TrueStory.com tells about the controlled demolitions of the Twin Towers and World Trade Center building 7.

It allows believers of the official story to partake of an initial, psychologically tolerable glimpse of the unthinkable.

Once it is clear that these buildings could only have been brought down by pre-positioned explosives, reasoning people must begin to ask the terrible questions.

Our awakening begins now.

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» RE: Marty Posted by: ConnecttheDots
Gore, The Ultimate Hypocrite
Posted by: billfaster on Jan 19, 2006 8:34 PM   
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Clinton/Gore Administration Used Warrantless Searches:
Clinton Administration Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick: "(T)he Department Of Justice Believes, And The Case Law Supports, That The President Has Inherent Authority To Conduct Warrantless Physical Searches For Foreign Intelligence Purposes And That The President May, As Has Been Done, Delegate This Authority To The Attorney General." (Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick, Permanent Select Committee On Intelligence, U.S. House Of Representatives, Testimony, 7/14/94)

In 1994, President Clinton Expanded The Use Of Warrantless Searches To Entirely Domestic Situations With No Foreign Intelligence Value Whatsoever. In A Radio Address Promoting A Crime- Fighting Bill, Mr. Clinton Discussed A New Policy To Conduct Warrantless Searches In Highly Violent Public Housing Projects." (Charles Hurt, "'Warrantless' Searches Not Unprecedented," The Washington Times, 12/22/05)

President Bill Clinton: "(T)he Attorney General Is Authorized To Approve Physical Searches, Without A Court Order, To Acquire Foreign Intelligence Information For Periods Of Up To One Year ..." (President Bill Clinton, Executive Order 12949, "Foreign Intelligence Physical Searches," 2/9/95)

And finally, let's nor forget about the Top Secret "Clipper Project..."

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» SWIFTBOAT ALERT!!! Posted by: Qwerty
» RE: Bush & the Republicans, Ultimate LIARS! Posted by: Againstthewindwalking
REVOLUTION
Posted by: JamesSorrell on Jan 20, 2006 3:16 PM   
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The Declaration of RE-Independence

We humans have lost sight of our own horizon. While a nation of participants ("We the People" turned into a loose collection of spectators, the business of America morphed into a monster of business.
Instead of "In God We Trust", on our money, money is now the god we trust [the love of $money$ having replaced real love]. While the stock market crash of 1929 was catalyzed by over-extended margins, the morality crash of our recent business climate is the result of under-extended ethics.
It is now left to us citizens, "We The People", to prevent our Titanic ending and reverse this trend.
.....Let us change our form of government overnight to the better, to something that works, as outlined in our primary legal document, The Declaration of Independence**; and except for vital and emergency services, put the current forms of government "on hold" until our ship of state is repaired and functioning for everyone's best interest, with equal opportunity for ALL, in the most powerful yet anemic country on earth; no longer FantasyLandUSA, but the land of the brave and free again!

.....We will go back to the future we were detoured from years ago when people sought after $money$ instead of love, and business/sports/entertainment instead of family. We must not again mistake our tools and their methods for the life in our lives!

**[[Dec. of Indep., 2nd paragraph: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.---That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. --->>> That whenever ANY Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."]]

.............Abraham Lincoln said that "Equal opportunity for every American was the un-finished work of America"!...............Benjamin Cardozo [US Supreme Court Justice, 1932-38]:"A great principle growing into the promise of its' logic, that some day 'All Men Are Created Equal' might mean just that".
Best regards, James Sorrell

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Well it's about time.
Posted by: popsicle67 on Jan 20, 2006 6:32 PM   
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Al Gore finally found out that we have a constitution. I was wondering, after all those years of supporting his wife's efforts to destroy the first amendment and his own party trying to destroy the second, if indeed he had heard of the document. Now I am relieved to hear that he does acknowledge it's existence. I think he is right about all the spying on citizens being dangerous,but I must take him to task for cleverly saying nothing about the fact that it was a democrat in the Whitehouse the whole time that Dr. King was
being spied upon, there was no republican president until after he was shot.

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» RE: What The Hell Was Nixon? Posted by: Againstthewindwalking
Every effort helps!
Posted by: glassslprz on Jan 21, 2006 7:10 AM   
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Ask yourself "What if?" What if America actually was a shining beacon of hope? If we acted so that our global neighbors were encouraged by our example? How different would we as a nation be, if Preschool through College was guaranteed? Why isn't it?
What if the Patriot Act were repealed - no, never enacted, because our leaders would never bargain our freedoms and rights away for a promise of security? What if ...well, you get the idea.

What does America mean to YOU? What do you want our country to be? Are you satisfied with the job performance from your elected official? Watch the Senate and House proceedings on C-Span. Read the bills, and how "you" voted. (It is your vote that they're casting, no?)

I encourage each of you to continue your efforts. Next election time, tell them YOUR vision of America, for a change. Refuse to reward incumbents who commit _______ (fill in the blank) with another term in office! These are not lifetime appointments, nor guaranteed jobs. Would you have a job if you continually undermined the company and people who employed you? If, instead of working, you took long and lavish vacations with their competitors? If you "sold out" your employer, would you expect another contract/free health care and pension to boot? Are you nuts? Are they?

We can't help feeling outrage because we're assaulted every week with another outrageous example of how we've been lied to, lied about, compromised, and kicked on our way down!


Finally, as Mr. Gore points out - Bush and company may be all smiles, thinking how great it's been and continues to be as he extends his "magical!" unity executive powers.

So my final "What if" is for the smirking criminals in the White House - and all their associated felons: "What if all that power suddenly goes to another party?" And for those Dems who think "That'd be great, actually..." What if we the people decide we don't like you so much, either?

If water droplets can, over time, erode mountains - then take heart. Your efforts will make a difference.

Take care and God bless -

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The contorted view of an evangelical fundamentalist corporate christen solder.
Posted by: Slowburn on Jan 22, 2006 12:38 PM   
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GOD has chosen George w Bush as his messiah(His words). He made it so G.W.B be in a position to Shepard the world through the end of times (Words spoken verbatim to me from a wayward sheep). GOD must have spake to G.W.B that the time has come to cast away mans worldly and antiquated institutions so as to bring about the end of the world as it exists today, and woe to ANY that oppose him. So it is by the grace of the GOD he believes in, that he and his disciples walk this earth with intentions of doing away with the commoners inalienable rights in order to save us from ourselves. The constitution with its bill of rights is just another obstruction to overcome on the path to this end.
I believe with all my heart that this is whats on G.W.B.s mind when he lays his head on his pillow every night. How has it come to be that a self appointed prophet has brought it upon himself to impose his perverted religion upon me? What manner of angels are on this man's shoulders? Who is whispering into this mortals ears?
I chose to believe that this man has sold his soul to the false religion that is plutocratic world domination religion. Are the voices he hears those of a charitable, tolerant, and understanding god? No they are they the voices of greedy self serving plutocrats and self declared prophets like, Cheney/halliburton, Ken Lay/Enron, wolfowitz/world bank, Robertson/700 club, Abromoff/money hungry politicians and far to many others to name here. Are they controlling him and all those that believe, and trust him and his posse? Those that have fallen into the quagmire of misinformation, spun facts, money worshippers, and false T.V. prophets. With their blatant and shameless manipulation of the electoral process through control of peoples emotions, as well as intimidation, fear, and lies.
(I was told any one that voted for Al gore or for that matter any liberal was voting for the devil). HOG WASH!
Well I choose to believe what my heart tells me and that is to ignore all that seek to impose their will on me and oppose all that seek to strip me of the rights that the fathers of this nation gave me. So i support inclusive ideologies. The ideologies that do not tell me how to think , act, and vote and i oppose exclusive ones that do not let me think for myself the one that turns its back to the needy with scorn, and contempt for those less well off. Does this make me a (terrorist) a liberal? Am i going to be dragged away into oblivion?

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» RE: Time for ANTICHRIST Posted by: ng1944
part two
Posted by: Slowburn on Jan 22, 2006 12:46 PM   
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The on message talking heads tell me that the (terrorists) want to kill me because of the way i live, but is it because the government that i live under is an exploitative , opportunistic, oppressor of the worlds poor? Crusaders bent on converting the world to their Religion, and to their reverence of the almighty dollar? If it is because they want to impose their religion on me then i would say to them the same thing i would say to any one else trying such a thing. That is you cannot convert the dead because i would defend my right of free will to the death. Does this make me a (terrorist)? What is the definition of a (terrorist) this day? What will it be tomorrow?
Can we believe what this government is telling us? For those that believe the path we are on is the righteous one i ask take a long hard look at those telling you what your opinion is and how to think, act, and vote.
And to please start thinking for themselves or the end result we be nothing like they expect it to be. They will be sheep lead to the slaughter their lives and minds not their own, empty shivering shells of human beings that believe 2+2=5 because that is what they are told it is, and god help them if they disagree.
This nation needs radical reform of the electoral process.
1.Make election day into election week so all those that wish to vote would get a chance to do so.
2. Allow only individual citizen contribution funding to a cap of candidates, and address the free speech issue by allowing P.A.C 's to spend money on air time up to a cap.
3. Outlaw all professional lobbyists and let all people have a turn at some type of public forum that is open and free for petition of the government.
4. Give free and equal air time to candidates to discuss and debate issues, and ban all campaigning one week before the election except to remind people how important it is to have a say in and be a participant of democracy.
5.Eliminate the same party vice president and make whomever gets the second highest number of individual not( electoral college) votes the vice president, for the sole purpose of eliminating the threat of absolute power.
It could be done but i realize that the plutocracy of today would never allow such a thing to happen. Well it is just a country boys opinion .
And finally buy the grace of the GOD that i chose to believe in, and the second amendment my free will, will forever be my own.

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''democrat'' politicians are also corrupt.
Posted by: redmiguel on Jan 23, 2006 2:49 AM   
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Frankly, I find it hypocritical for any politician to denounce ''corruption in politics'' when it is clear that all of them regardless of party affiliation engage in the practice.

The root of the problem is systemic. It has to do with the existence of the lobbying industry. As long as it is acceptable for special interests to buy politicians votes there will always be corruption.

It is not credible for progressives to complain about corruption from Republicans unless they equally condenm it in the ''democrat'' party. It exists...

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