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Rights and Liberties

The End of Democracy in Ohio?

By Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman, Free Press. Posted December 12, 2005.


New legislation passed by Ohio Republicans may just institutionalize those famous "voting irregularities."
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A law that will make democracy all but moot in Ohio is about to pass the state legislature and to be signed by its Republican governor. Despite massive corruption scandals besieging the Ohio GOP, any hope that the Democratic party could win this most crucial swing state in future presidential elections, or carry its pivotal U.S. Senate seat in 2006, are about to end.

House Bill 3 has already passed the Ohio House of Representatives and is about to be approved by the Republican-dominated Senate, probably before the holiday recess. Republicans dominate the Ohio legislature thanks to a heavily gerrymandered crazy quilt of rigged districts, and to a moribund Ohio Democratic party. The GOP-drafted HB3 is designed to all but obliterate any possible future Democratic revival. Opposition from the Ohio Democratic Party, where it exists at all, is diffuse and ineffectual.

HB3's most publicized provision will require positive identification before casting a vote. But it also opens voter registration activists to partisan prosecution, exempts electronic voting machines from public scrutiny, quintuples the cost of citizen-requested statewide recounts and makes it illegal to challenge a presidential vote count or, indeed, any federal election result in Ohio. When added to the recently passed HB1, which allows campaign financing to be dominated by the wealthy and by corporations, and along with a Rovian wish list of GOP attacks on the ballot box, democracy in Ohio could be all but over.

The GOP is ramming similar bills through state legislatures around the U.S., starting with Georgia and Indiana. The ID requirements in particular have provoked widespread opposition from newspapers such as the New York Times. The Times, among others, argues that the ID requirements and the costs associated with them, constitute an unconstitutional discriminatory poll tax.

But despite significant court challenges, the Republicans are forcing changes in long-standing election laws that have allowed citizens to vote based on their signature alone. Across the U.S., GOP Jim Crow laws will eliminate millions of Democratic voters from the registration rolls. In swing states like Ohio, such ballots are almost certain to be crucial.

The proposed Ohio law will demand a valid photo ID or a utility bill, a bank statement, a paycheck or a government document with a current address. Thousands of Ohio citizens who are elderly, homeless, unemployed or who do not drive will be effectively disenfranchised. Many citizens, for example, rent apartments where the utilities are paid by landlords. In such cases, the number of people living in utilities-included apartment rentals could actually determine an election.

During the 2004 presidential election, Ohio's Republican Secretary of State, J. Kenneth Blackwell, also issued statewide threats against ex-felons and people whose names resembled those of ex-felons. Thousands of such threats were delivered to registered voters who were never convicted of anything, or who were eligible to vote after being released from prison. In 2004 a "Mighty Texas Strike Force" came to Columbus with a specific mandate to threaten ex-felons with arrest if they dared to vote.

It is legal for ex-felons in Ohio to vote, even if they are in half-way houses or on parole. But HB3's identification requirement, combined with the confusion Blackwell has introduced into the process, will intimidate such Ohioans from voting in 2006 and beyond.

HB3 will also reduce voter rolls by ordering county boards of elections to send cards to registered voters every two years. If a card comes back as undelivered, the voter must rely on a provisional ballot. But tens of thousands of provisional ballots were arbitrarily discarded in 2004, and some 16,000 are known to remain uncounted to this day.

HB3 also imposes severe restrictions on voter registration drives. It allows the state attorney-general and local prosecutors wide powers to prosecute vaguely defined charges of fraud against those working to sign up voters. The restrictions are clearly meant to chill the kind of Democratic registration drives that brought hundreds of thousands of new voters to the polls in 2004 (even though many were turned away in Democratic wards due to a lack of voting machines).

Those electronic machines will also be exempted from recounts by random sampling, even in close, disputed elections like those of 2000 and 2004.

In 2004, scores of Ohio voters reported, under oath, that they had pressed John Kerry's name on touchscreen machines, only to see George W. Bush's name light up. A board of elections technician in Mahoning County (Youngstown) has admitted that at least 18 machines there suffered such problems. Sworn testimony in Columbus indicates that votes for Kerry faded off the screen on touchscreen machines there. Other charges of mis-programming, re-programming, recalibrating, mishandling and manipulation of electronic voting software, hardware and memory cards have since arisen throughout Ohio 2004.

For the 2005 election, some 41 additional Ohio counties (of 88) were switched to Diebold touchscreen machines. Despite polls showing overwhelming voter approval, two electoral reform issues went down improbable defeat. Issue Two, meant to make voting easier, and Issue Three, on campaign finance reform, were shown by highly reliable Columbus Dispatch polls to be passing handily.


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I wish this article was not so clear cut and well written
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Dec 12, 2005 12:57 AM   
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All I can say is were is a Ralph Nader type when you need him. I do not know how anyone can stop this type of voting fraud, since Bush has decommissioned the civil rights division of the Justice department. This is a nightmare come to life and it does not sound like there is anyway to get around it, which is really scary.

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A lessening of credibility because of exaggeration
Posted by: zmesberg on Dec 12, 2005 2:32 AM   
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The implications of this article are scary and unfortunately in many cases all too true. However, I think it is a bit of an overstatement that the proposed Ohio law and similar ones around the country in question really amount to new "GOP Jim Crow laws." Yes, the requirement have a verified ID in order to vote does present a minor obstacle to a subset of the population and may be in fact somewhat unfair to those people. That being said, photo ID cards that are not drivers licenses are available from every state government for a nominal sum and many states and municipalities make the cards available to the indigent for free.

In states where the cards are not available free of charge to those who can not pay I would challenge that laws such as the proposed one are unfair because no one should be denied the vote for lack of money. Realistically though, at least 99% of Americans can afford to lay $5.00-$15.00 dollars on the line every few years. Even at federal minimum wage that is a maximum of only three hours of work. Thus, even though the law is perhaps unfair it is not a real barrier to nearly anyone who wants to vote.

What I'm trying to point out is that this article has some really important things to say but by exaggerating one of its claims it loses some of it's credibility. The Bush administration and the Republican Party are often criticized for lying or stretching the truth, and rightfully so. By the same token, counter-arguments against deceitful Republican legislation need to be carefully thought out and truthfully presented. If what is being said is true, the truth alone will speak for itself.

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» RE: contact MoveOn.org Posted by: ShaSpirit
» RE: The GOP is Scared of Minorities!! Posted by: fullavit@hotmail.com
» Well Put! Posted by: citizenjoe
» Fullavit: well put! Posted by: citizenjoe
I'm pinching myself.
Posted by: WhatNow? on Dec 12, 2005 3:53 AM   
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This is a terrible nightmare. When will I awake?

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One-Party Dictatorship over the USA
Posted by: citizenjoe on Dec 12, 2005 4:58 AM   
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This is how one-party dictatorship comes to the USA, by taking control of voting in the key states. In this way, the Republican Party maintains a federal dictatorship through control of Congress, the Presidency and the federal courts. Basically, this a party coup which ends the democratic republic established in the US Constitution. Bye bye...

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» hm Posted by: benjamincanfly
It ain't just happening in OH and FL
Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 12, 2005 5:16 AM   
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Last year, even in WY, yes a red stronghold, the turnout was suspiciously at 105%. Anyone from Wyoming want to justify the malpractice of turning up more votes than registered? And yes, it's a shame that neither party is doing anything about it.

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» RE: Georgia and Nebraska are also lost Posted by: Lets all eat cake
Also, the Democrats need to campaign in all 50 states
Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 12, 2005 5:22 AM   
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to full expose the GOP's bigger vote fixing fraud across the nation. And it wouldn't surprise me to see most red states in addition to WY with the biggest vote fraud. As it is, it's bad enough that even in blue states, the big cities that go Democratic generally end up with more spoiled votes compared to the stark red counties. This can be applied to PA, IL, IN though Gary isn't big enough to be a city yet, WI, MI, MN, MD, NY, CA, NV, NM in addition to FL and OH.

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The genes and the blood stream thins out
Posted by: bookwoman on Dec 12, 2005 6:54 AM   
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We have seen how talent dissapates, in a family, over several generations with Preston Bush, George H.W. Bush and now "W". We have the same situation in Ohio with the Tafts. So with office holders like Robert Taft and Jean Schmidt, we can only hope that the voters of Ohio will see the light and get rid of all the Republicans in office and reclaim their democracy.

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» RE: What good is that? Posted by: harpy
Partisan Politics
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Dec 12, 2005 7:02 AM   
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One of the disadvantages of partisan politics is that partisans don't object to their party's cheating.

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Doomsday Democracy
Posted by: gonzoskismet on Dec 12, 2005 7:37 AM   
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Time to torch this mess and get out while you can, folks.

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Join the P.O.T. Party !!!!
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Dec 12, 2005 7:43 AM   
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OK Friends this kind of hocum is just what the 100 million whom don't vote for either of the two garbage piles don't vote for. The system has been rigged ever since the formation of the electorial college. The time has come for a Party that says it all up front. The People Over Tyrants Party could be a way.
Are you sick of being taxed to pay back insurance companies for having to make good on their claims from 9/11? That's what they're doing. Are you sick of compound intrest rates that only make the rich richer and keep you form
getting out of debt faster? Are you sick of being one of the 80 million that will never get out of low income? Or one of the many who make $50,000+/yr,have a child,live in a big city,
and can't get the ends to meet,not because you're a bad with
money but because the cost of living goes up faster that your wages? Are you tired of being made sick just by breathing the Air that industry gets to poison us with by Govt assistance? Are you sick of hearing about your friends and nieghbors hang 'Gold Stars' for the dead children in uniform for the Corpie War for Oil? Are you ready to change this outdated system of oppression? I am.

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» RE: Join the P.O.T. Party !!!! Posted by: gonzoskismet
» RE: Join the P.O.T. Party !!!! Posted by: BuckFush
» RE: Join the P.O.T. Party !!!! Posted by: Lets all eat cake
» RE: Join the P.O.T. Party !!!! We're Ready Posted by: fullavit@hotmail.com
I can't catch my breath.
Posted by: Farragher on Dec 12, 2005 8:07 AM   
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Little by little, then one day you wake up and you have no recourse. This is happening. It is not just the ranting of many paranoids, but reality. Someone thought it up, and wrote it down, and created a bill to be voted on by a repugnican controled governmental body. Seemingly innocent, done with in the existing legal frame work, and resulting in total control. There is no more need for electoral politics, no need for campaigns, etc. If the public can’t scrutinize the process or the equipment or challenge the results, then why go through the process. And the ”opposition” is nowhere to be found. If ever there was a time to start jumping up and down it’s now. J. Kenneth Blackwell for governor, and then president would be the only way to trump the insanity we currently have. When you stop shaking and vomiting, call Move-on, Democracy for America, and oh don’t forget Howard, and see what kind of response you get. Where are the protests. Soon that will be illegal, along with this. Times a wastin'.

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» Are you saying this is fascism? Posted by: citizenjoe
two party system
Posted by: liberalibrarian on Dec 12, 2005 9:10 AM   
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Before you go around ranting in favor of some heretofore unknown political party---or even exhort voting green or libertarian or whatever, think about this. We need to get back the two party system, regardless of the less-than-ideal state the Democrats may be in. We can work on them later. But we won't be able to change anything if we allow the 2nd party to disintegrate beyond recovery. Vote Democrat. Vote in every election. Work to get people registered Democrat and let's take back the country one party at a time.

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» RE: two party system Posted by: A. James
Vote dem - vote for fraud
Posted by: AlanSmithee on Dec 12, 2005 10:14 AM   
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While republicans were fixing the voting machines in '04, democrats were filing bogus lawsuits to keep third parties off of state ballots. Voting dem is part of the problem, not part of the solution. Real voting reform is needed and it is not going to come from the democoporate party.

Vote Green, vote libertarian, vote anything but Republicrat. It's far too late to rely on a pair of utterly corrupt all-but-identical parties.

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» RE: Thank yourself for this mess Posted by: AlanSmithee
» RE: Vote dem - vote for fraud Posted by: Basenjis
ID cards not that easy to aquire
Posted by: harpy on Dec 12, 2005 11:06 AM   
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Those"cheap" ID cards aren't always easy to acquire. Due to so many cutbacks in Federal support, our local governments have had to cutback in local Highway Patrol offices, which are the only place we in Tennessee can get valid picture ID's. My 90 year old father, who hasn't driven in 20 years, recently had to get a picture ID. That meant I had to pick him up, drive him 20 miles from home (I'm closer than a lot of people to the office) and sit for three hours. The offices are open limited hours due to budget cuts and there is no public transportation here, except for limited "in-town". So no, picture ID's aren't that easy to get. Although he's been registered to vote since the 1930's, that little requirement would have placed a tremendous burden on him.

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AND THIS IS FREEDOM??!!!!!!!
Posted by: fullavit@hotmail.com on Dec 12, 2005 11:14 AM   
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How the hell is this freedom??!! How the hell is the GOP (That stands for Greedy Old Pricks!) going to sell this turd?!! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH US PEOPLE!!!! WHY ARE WE NOT OUT IN THE STREETS OVER THIS SHIT!!!!!

Why did not one senator stand up in 2000??! Why did the mainstream press just gloss over the case?! I don't think enough people (Make that Sheople) give a rat's ass! I don't think enough people can see over their Starbucks large latte and over their daily slice of the corporate press!

Is it a crime to give a fuck! (Yea, I said fuck! Ban me!! AGAIN!!)

Are we so jaded by the corporate dream that we can't see that they are stealing the country while we sit in our Calgon bubble baths and send our kids to McDonald's for another of those burgers with a half-life of 3000 years! Have we become so lazy that we can't pull ourselves away from Fox News long enough to log on to Alternet and get the REAL story!!

We need a new Democratic party! I'm sick of this shit!!! How can you call yourselve a viable alternative to the neocons when all you do is sit on your ass and count your money while they hijack the whole country!!! Where is a Martin Luther King!! Where is a Medgar Evers!! An Abby Hoffman! A Hunter S. Thompson! A Malcom X! Where are the people who can grow a set of balls on that donkey!!

I'm ready to die for this country!! I took one step forward on a cloudy day in Atlanta Georgia and swore too defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foriegn and domestic! I never recended that vow!

The GOP has turned into a bloated festering boil on the ass of the world!!! There's only one way to deal with it and that is to bust it open and clean it out! If Dean or Hillary can't get the job done then find someone that can!! There's got to be somebody in that party that has a set of balls!

In closing, let me say this! I WILL NOT stand idely by while the Repugs steal another election! They can bust me, beat me, lock me up for ever! FUCK 'EM! I may be the only one out there BUT I WILL BE THERE!!!!! Alternet can ban me of this site again! It don't matter! If speaking my mind and standing up for the rights of all Americans gets me banned, then maybee I'm on the wrong site anyway!

Check out" http://cyclone696.blogspot.com." Cyclone's got the balls to spell it ALL out for you!

Stoney13

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» RE: AND THIS IS FREEDOM??!!!!!!! Thanks! Posted by: fullavit@hotmail.com
» RE: AND THIS IS FREEDOM??!!!!!!! Posted by: rockpicker
» RIGHT ON!!!! MAN!!!!!!! Posted by: WhatNow?
» RE: IGHT ON!!!! MAN!!!!!!! Thanks!! I will!!! Posted by: fullavit@hotmail.com
» This is not freedom Posted by: tkwilson
Allow me to clarify
Posted by: zmesberg on Dec 12, 2005 12:53 PM   
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I noticed that my comment generated a lot of heated responses, as I thought it would. I would like to point out that I did state that charging any amount of money for the right to vote is wrong. However, to compare the current situation to Jim Crow laws is incorrect. Those laws disenfranchised people without recourse, using things like grandfather clauses and literacy tests. The current laws are essentially a new poll tax, unfair yes but not nearly as much of a barrier to voting as the more restrictive aspects of Jim Crow laws.

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Over reaction...
Posted by: drmiller on Dec 12, 2005 1:30 PM   
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The proposed Ohio law will demand a valid photo ID or a utility bill, a bank statement, a paycheck or a government document with a current address.

In California we have had to present a valid ID before voting for many years. While some parts of the described law sound very harsh, this does not it seems to me.

Granted, in California we have the similar but politically opposite effect in that Republicans are nearly unelectable to statewide offices. Govenor Schwartzenneger will be, I think, a one term exception.

Other parts might not pass Constitutional muster, like making recounts of Federal elections illegal?

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» RE: Over reaction... Posted by: venus924
» RE: Over reaction... Posted by: Gma1
» RE: Over reaction... Posted by: Gma1
Typical Day in the Neocon Arena
Posted by: tanstaafl28 on Dec 12, 2005 3:42 PM   
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The Neocons have been bullying their way across State and Federal Governments for quite some time now. It is no wonder that they have managed to dismantle public accountability and trust in multiple states within our (dis)union. These leeches are corruption incarnate.

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some will rob you with a fountain pen...
Posted by: gltirebiter on Dec 12, 2005 3:57 PM   
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don't get lost in the details of this issue.
is every eligible voter allowed to vote and, more importantly, is the vote accurately recorded and counted?
i believe that we are losing the bedrock of democracy, an accurate count of valid votes and, thereby, the voice of the people.
what is it going to take until the citizens of this country realize that fraud and corruption are silencing their voices? or, even more sinister, do they tacitly approve of this chicanery??

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Exit Polls
Posted by: JSquercia on Dec 12, 2005 4:44 PM   
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Wasn't the reason we opposed the Elections in the Ujraine the fact that the results did not coincide with the exit polls and yet when Bush won despite the exit polls showing him a loser we just accepted it .
Black Box Voting pointed out that there are more stringent requirements for Elelectronic Slot Machines in Vegas than theere are for Elecrtonic Voting Machines . There is no such thing as Proprietary Code for slot machines . The code MUST be made available to the Gaming Commission and yet here we have our votes counted by programs whosee code in not available for review . This is an absolute disgrace .

Canada votes entirely on paper and we should too . the problem si still who counts the votes . to see the incompetance and corruption of the Taft Adminstration should be reason enough to vote the Republicans out of office .

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» RE: xit Polls Posted by: crusty
There was an essay written
Posted by: WhatNow? on Dec 12, 2005 5:15 PM   
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by a man named Kroeger I think, that was about the need for accurate vote counts. Expediency and low costs are two of the smallest of concerns when it comes to counting the vote were part of the essay.

If anybody knows where I found Kroeger's essay on the internet please let me know the address. I have looked for that essay for months but can not remember where I found it.

Thanks.

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in the days of old
Posted by: john henry on Dec 12, 2005 5:17 PM   
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now back a few years in the day of log cabins an candle light when there was a meeting to talk about changeing the rules all people would the women an kids would do there shopping for the year an the men would go to the meeting with all there wears like knife an gun so now if they did not like what they were trying to do somebody may drop there gun an it would go off them gun of those day were train not to miss so the politices were real open an up front about all thing but it is not so today for all things

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is the alarmist tone of this article accurate?
Posted by: apratt6436 on Dec 13, 2005 12:11 AM   
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After reading this article and freaking a bit I just read a New York Times article from November about the defeat of election reform in Ohio, which was a lot calmer than this article. Perhaps the authors of the NYT article are Republicans, I don't know. It's hard to know who to believe any more, so many things are slanted. One point is, isn't this Ohio legislation something that can be changed again in a few years? And aren't there are many signs that Republican power is crumbling, too, like the court decision on Delay and the prosecution in Washington now? These horrible Nazi Republican actions are perhaps a reflection of their desperation. These neocons are way down a road of evil and insanity, and they are effective, too, but will the American people, like the Germans of the 30s, really put up with such a loss of freedom and representation? It has never been as crazy at it is now, but we must not panic. What we need is determination, sanity, peace, money, courage, love, and real candidates like Bill Clinton was. The truth is on our side, if we are strong and sane enough to keep telling it, and acting on our convictions. This may well be a temporary situation. At any rate we can never give up. The Lord will help us if we pray, too.

God bless

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Please confront the impications of this story
Posted by: drdanj on Dec 13, 2005 7:59 AM   
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What happens to traitors who work for the power structure? They are rewarded with more power.

As good as this analysis is, it reduces its conclusions to squabbles between the two parties in power. Rather than going all the way, and pointing out that the people involved are traitors to the Constitution, to human rights, to social justice, to the United States, the authors cower in their corner, afraid to confront the deep truth and wind up this discussion with the non-problem that Democrats won't get Ohio.

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Democracy isn't everything
Posted by: kenhymes on Dec 13, 2005 10:17 AM   
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I share the alarm over GOP tactics aimed at solidifying their control of the voting system. And having a vote is better than not having one.

However: progressives have for many decades put way too much faith in the efficacy of the representative system to change society, and neglected the building of local alternative structures, such as co-ops, worker-owned businesses, legal advocacy groups.

Society doesn't change much through national elections. In fact, despite the GOP's stranglehold on Washington, they have made negative progress in changing the thinking of Americans on long-standing policy issues.

Americans still largely favor national health insurance, gay rights, women's right to an abortion, and largely oppose unchecked corporate power, unnecessary wars, and exclusionary and discriminatory practices by government and companies.

Progressives need to tap into this where they live, not wait for a party structure to emerge that suits their policy goals. Ain;t gonna happen, and wouldn't work if it did.

Peace

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UN election observers?
Posted by: stlaura on Dec 13, 2005 2:24 PM   
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As an Ohioan, I see firsthand that these election abuses have happened. There is no exaggeration. Yet when alienated voters complain, we are called "paranoid" or worse. Honestly, why not ask for impartial investigation by the UN? Or another international body. Are we so busy exporting democracy via force, and limiting it here, that we cannot see the implications?

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» RE: UN election observers? Posted by: billfaster
Conspiracies, eh?
Posted by: idgit on Dec 14, 2005 6:03 PM   
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Let's see now...as good GOP operatives know, if you want to steal an election (especially ones about voting laws) you should be subtle. Make it close, make it realistic.

Mmm...I know...how's this for subtle and realistic? Game the system to sum the votes as 65 against/35 for, the inverse of "respected" polls which showed them 35 against/ 65 for mere days before the voting.

Yeah. Right.

But, wait! Maybe that's what they want us to think, so we won't investigate it!

Yeah. Right.

Please, if you are going to invent new conspiracy theories, at least make them plausible.

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tumal
Posted by: tumal on Dec 14, 2005 8:13 PM   
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I thought the Republicans were trying to bring democracy to the world. I guess they forgot about our country. It's not important here as long as they can do as they please and keep Ohio under their thumb. I hope the people of the state wake up and look at what is going on and do something about it.

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Posted by: tbostic on Dec 15, 2005 9:15 AM   
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Give me a break, get a state ID if you can’t drive. If you want the privilege of voting and have actually the ability to generate a meaningful opinion about something rather than regurgitating what someone else says you can also find a way to identify yourself. If you can’t, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF VOTING! It is not as though the law applies to liberals only, California has the requirement and it is overwhelmingly liberal. QUIT WHINING, BE A RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN OR STEP OUT OF LINE AND LET SOMEONE WHO IS VOTE!

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» RE: T Posted by: Puhleeze
THIS IS A SLOW BUT SURE COUP D'ETAT
Posted by: TheStranger on Dec 18, 2005 9:34 PM   
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I applaud the writer of this piece. As our democracy crumbles, we must bear witness to prepare for the day when we take back our republic.

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