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After Rehnquist -- Roberts?

By Mary Lynn F. Jones, AlterNet. Posted September 4, 2005.


As Bush tries to defend himself from withering criticism about his slow response to Hurricane Katrina, he quickly picks a successor for Chief Justice William Rehnquist -- John G. Roberts.
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As Congress returns to Washington on Tuesday to deal further with the horrific aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, senators now face another challenge: whether to confirm Judge John G. Roberts Jr. to succeed Chief Justice William Rehnquist, who died Saturday at age 80.

Bush moved swiftly in making the announcement Monday, saying that Roberts, who once clerked for Rehnquist, shared the last justice's "deep reverence for the Constitution, his profound respect for the Supreme Court and his complete devotion to the cause of justice."

Bush's remarks came a day after he promised to "choose in a timely manner a highly qualified nominee to succeed" him. Bush must now re-nominate Roberts for the chief justice position, instead of the associate justice position for which he had been nominated to succeed retiring Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. Roberts' hearings for the associate seat, scheduled to begin tomorrow, will likely be delayed. Rehnquist's body will lie in repose at the Supreme Court before his burial Wednesday.

Roberts said he was "honored and humbled by the confidence that the president had shown in me." Most presidents have looked outside of the court's current members for chief justice candidates, although President Reagan elevated Rehnquist from associate justice to chief justice in 1986.

Democrats had urged the administration and lawmakers not to rush the process in filling the court's first double-vacancy since 1971. "We should proceed carefully and appropriately in filling these important vacancies," said Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, before Bush made his announcement Monday.

On ABC's "This Week," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., had called on the Senate to delay the hearings so the nation can mourn Rehnquist, and suggested Bush name O'Connor as chief justice for a year to allow for stability on the court. When she announced her retirement in July, O'Connor offered to remain on the court until her successor is confirmed, which means she will likely have to stay longer now given the change in Roberts' status.

Republicans, however, have argued that Roberts' confirmation hearings should proceed as planned. "We can get him on the court, if that is the will of the Senate, before [the court] reconvenes" on Oct. 3, Senate Judiciary Committee member John Cornyn, R-Texas, told "Fox News Sunday." In a statement Saturday, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said he would work with Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., "on how to move forward pending Judiciary Committee business."

While Republicans were confident of confirming Roberts before the court's new term begins, it is near impossible that both Roberts and whomever Bush nominates for the associate justice position will be in place by then. Last week, Republicans and Democrats on the committee unveiled their witness lists for Roberts' hearings, with more than two dozen witnesses expected to testify. Nominating a new justice, researching his or her legal writings, asking the candidate to answer questions from the committee and organizing hearings alone could take well over a month before the hearings actually begin. Bush's decision to renominate Roberts for Rehnquist's job means there will be two, not three, confirmation hearings.

But clearly trying to seat the new justices, who will make up about a quarter of the court's membership, is a high priority for the administration. Until Roberts is seated, John Paul Stevens, as the most senior justice, will lead the court, which could deadlock cases. The court has often split five to four in recent years, such as in 2000 in Bush v. Gore, which ended the contentious post-election legal process.

Although Rehnquist's health was in decline, his death from thyroid cancer was still somewhat of a surprise, brought on by a "precipitous decline" in recent days, according to a Supreme Court spokeswoman. As the administration considers his successor, it is also trying to defend itself from public and congressional criticism about its slow response to the hurricane's aftermath in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama; Bush is scheduled to tour parts of the Gulf Coast on Monday, and several members of Congress have called for an investigation into the government's post-hurricane actions. At the same time, Congress is faced with passing appropriations bills before the new fiscal year begins Oct. 1.

Rehnquist -- who joined the court in 1972 and was the nation's 16th chief justice -- was considered the "lone ranger" in his early years on the court, as his conservative positions led him to dissent from the majority on cases such as Roe v. Wade in 1973. Not as conservative as Justices Clarence Thomas or Antonin Scalia, he voted to allow state employees to sue their bosses for violating the Family and Medical Leave Act, reaffirmed a suspect's so-called Miranda rights and supported the idea of an independent judiciary. But he also voted to uphold the death penalty, and supported the court's decision allowing a school district to issue vouchers for students to attend private or parochial schools.

Elliot Mincberg, vice president and legal director of People for the American Way, a progressive interest group opposing Roberts, said Sunday that he hoped Bush would choose a nominee in the mold of the more centrist O'Connor to succeed Rehnquist. He noted there has been a "tremendous increase of concern" about Roberts in the last several weeks; Democrats remain frustrated that the White House has withheld some of Roberts' writings. Among the groups opposing Roberts' nomination are the National Organization for Women, Naral Pro-Choice and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

While interest groups on both sides of the political aisle initially projected spending millions of dollars debating Roberts' nomination, the fight over Roberts fizzled after several Democrats indicated early on that they would most likely support him if he failed to trigger the "extraordinary circumstances" clause of the so-called Gang of Fourteen bipartisan senators. But given that Roberts is now being considered for the chief justice position, Democrats are likely to press Roberts further on his views and press the administration for more information.

With the nation's capital focused on the hurricane's victims, the future of New Orleans and Rehnquist's funeral -- as well as the knowledge that the court's term begins in less than a month -- and Republicans eager to get Roberts on the court, it's quite possible that the Senate will confirm Roberts quickly and save the bigger fight for Bush's second nominee. Whatever happens, it's sure to be a long fall.

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Mary Lynn F. Jones is a Washington, D.C.-based writer.

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This article is an AP course in Political Science
Posted by: Olympiada on Sep 4, 2005 8:41 PM   
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Or maybe my mind is to fried from mothering. I wish I had not given away my poli sci book or recycle my class materials out of frustration. Lord have mercy. I need a refresher course.

This whole country is an uproar...And most folks are out of the loop...I don't hear folks talking politics in my community. Nobody does.

How frustrating.

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» Justice Roberts Posted by: Olympiada
An interesting fact
Posted by: noelahg on Sep 4, 2005 10:04 PM   
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Nowhere in the constitution does it specify there should be 9 supreme court justices. So, why the rush?

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» It's required by Congress Posted by: greenthinginwater
» RE: It's required by Congress Posted by: maxpayne
Don't focus too much on social issues alone
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 5, 2005 5:46 AM   
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Roberts was heavily endorsed by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and pretty much all of BIG BUSINESS and Corporate America all the while enjoying the Republicans and Democrats bicker on the guy's social takes. I'm not too surprised that the Democrats haven't done a thing to nail Roberts on his horrible record on corporate lawsuits and anti-worker anti-labor record and his takes against people's rights to privacy. The real litmus test shouldn't be whether he'd vote to overturn Roe v Wade as Congress and the President along with some states whose representatives have no respect for safety and life-saving are already doing all that.

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Perfect timing...
Posted by: NamVeT on Sep 5, 2005 7:57 AM   
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It could'nt be any better for george and karl. Now they can appoint another Supreme Court Justice to their liking. I'll bet the both of them are creaming in their jeans! All in the timing, eh? Appointing John Roberts in a heartbeat after the tragedy in the Gulf Coast...and now who the hell is next? It's time to get rid of all these incompetent fucking idiots...NOW!

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» RE: Perfect timing... Posted by: NDnative
» RE: Perfect timing... Posted by: maxpayne
The Court and Us
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Sep 5, 2005 1:17 PM   
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The true function of the Supreme Court is to preserve the BROADEST application of the Constitution as Law of The Land.
Sadly this has not been the case with this, the last vestage for the People, selling out to the whim and dictate of the un-elected government. Roberts is yet another example of how far we have gone astray from what our Founding Father's had intended. But then again,they were Liars who stole the land and commited genocide to get it. So just what are we pledging
allegience to and whom do we expect to protect or Rights?

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Its vitally important to not pick a centrist
Posted by: captainmarvel on Sep 5, 2005 1:57 PM   
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Its important that Bush picks who he think will truly uphold the constitution, without judicial legislating from the bench.
He does not have to be compromising to the people who arent in power. He should absolutely follow through on his campaign promise to pick a justice in the mold of Scalia or Thomas. Absolutely do not conceed power to people who werent elected to power!

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Does anybody else think this whole thing stinks?
Posted by: sausage on Sep 5, 2005 5:11 PM   
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Let's just look at some of the facts in this Rehnquist/Roberts thing.
1. Gang of 14, seven "moderate" Republican and Democrats, chief among them John McCain and Ben Nelson, hammer out a "compromise" to "save" the filibuster from GOP Majority Leader Bill "Cat Killer" Frist's threaten "nuclear option" to change Senate rules concerning limiting debate over Preidential judicial nominees Priscilla Owens, Janice Rogers Brown and William Pryor. Part of "compromise" Democrats agree to end all filibusters against Bush's current and future nominees, including potential Supreme Court picks, except in extraordinary circumstances.


2. Justice Sandra Day O'Connor announces she's retiring to spent more time with her ailing husband.

3. Chief Justice Rehnquist was very ill for months, yet he would remain on bench as long as his health permitted.

4. Bush nominates Judge John Roberts to replace Justice O'Connor.

5. Rehnquist dies, Bush elevates Roberts' nomination from Associate Justice to Chief Justice.

So, what "extraordinary circustances" trigger the Democrat's right to filibuster a Bush Supreme Court nominee? In fact many "moderate" Democrats are quite comfortable with Roberts. It's almost as if everybody involved knew Rehnquist was not long for this world.

Folks, we've been snookered again.

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Pathetic
Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 6, 2005 4:12 AM   
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Isn't it funny howm whenever Bush wants to take the public's focus off of something, he drags out poor old John Roberts. He did it in July when the Rove/Palme affair was heating up. He announced Roberts as the successor to Sandra Day O'Connor in a big press conference when it han't been expected for weeks.

Now here he is again, in the midst of the Katrina controversy holding up Roberts as Renquest's replacement. Can you imagine how depressed Scalia must be now? Everyone thought that he would be the next C.J. but due to circumstances beyond our control...

Kind of funny, actually.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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» RE: Pathetic Posted by: bogey11
Competence Not Issues
Posted by: david.model@senecac.on.ca on Sep 6, 2005 7:05 AM   
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I think it is shocking that the debate over who will fill the two vacant seats on the Supreme Court focuses more on where the candidates stand on issues rather than their qualifications for the job. The investigation into the candidates credentials should focus on intelligence, wisdom, judgement, insight, knowledge and analytical skills not whether he/she believe in abortion. Asking a candidate in a Senate hearing about their stand on abortion is no more than an attempt to stack thre court with judges who hold the "right" opinions on a few issues. The nation seems to have completely lost sight of the function of the court and the judges within that court.

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» RE: Competence Not Issues Posted by: Diecash1
» RE: Competence Not Issues Posted by: SDres11
» RE: Competence Not Issues Posted by: Lindie
Do Something About It ... NOW!
Posted by: Riverside on Sep 6, 2005 8:03 AM   
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Folks, here is one man's shout.
****************************************
September 6, 2005
FaxLetter
United States Senate
Committee on the Judiciary
Fax: (202) 224-9102
To The Honorable Chairman: Senator Arlen Specter and
The Members of the Senate Judiciary Committee

Esteemed Senators:
As a citizen of these United States, I wish to address your forthcoming consideration of Justice John Roberts as President Bush’s nominee for Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court.

Although Justice Roberts has considerable experience, including service as a law clerk under the late Chief Justice Rehnquist, I have some concerns that his immediate occupancy of that critically important and esteemed position may be premature. Certainly, time as an Associate Justice, as was the President’s initial intent, would have served Justice Roberts well in acquiring the practical working skills as a sitting Associate Justice that law clerking, even for such an esteemed jurist as Justice Rehnquist, does not provide.

Additionally, there are still troubling gaps in Justice Roberts past judicial and legal opinions and their associated recommendations that need full disclosure in order to properly evaluate his readiness for this august responsibility. In this respect, I implore the committee to demand access to this missing information and to review it in its entirety before considering Justice Roberts for confirmation as Chief Justice.

Finally, should the committee as well as members of the full Senate have concerns about Justice Roberts’ suitability for the Chief Justice position, it is suggested that consideration be given to recommending Justice Roberts for the Associate Justice position. At the same time, I urge the committee to suggest to the President that he consider nominating Associate Justice Sandra Day O’Connor for the Chief Justice position.

Justice O'Connor is a shining star of jurisprudence and would be an important balancing force on the court that would serve the majority of interests and concerns of this nation. Additionally, having her as the first woman Chief Justice would be both brilliant and absolutely a great boost for women's rights the world over. Additionally, her nomination and confirmation would be a very historic and beneficial milestone for this great nation of ours.
Sincerely,

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» Thanks riverside Posted by: Olympiada
"America Can't Wait Until 2008 –- Impeach 'Em All"
Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 6, 2005 8:45 AM   
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Well, Bush is nothing if he is not consistant: he appointed Michael Chertoff to head Homeland Security, someone completely inexperienced; he appointed Michael Brown to head FEMA, someone completely inexperienced; and now, he has nominated John Roberts to be CHIEF justice of the Supreme Court – another candidate almost completely inexperienced (he sat on an appellate court for only 2 years).

If I didn't know better (and I don't. . .), I would swear that Bush is trying to destroy every single aspect of government he can touch –– or, that he is just monumentally stupid, with equally stupid (and crooked) people "advising" him. Either way, we're screwed.

Suggested mantra for the next three years: Impeach 'em all –– we can't wait 'till 2008.

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N.O.W.
Posted by: Olympiada on Sep 6, 2005 10:58 AM   
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All right folks, second go round.
N.O.W.
Time to get (back) in touch with them, thanks to some encouragement from a fellow commentator.

What I want to know is this? Why do the darn supreme court judges sit on the court for so darn long? Not only have I discussed with this my father, who by the way is in the legal industry, we also discussed this in my political science class...

I do not like this. It seems once you get them in there, it's hard to get them out...

I am not settled about this at all .

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» RE: N.O.W. Posted by: djisabella
» RE: N.O.W. Posted by: Lindie
» Hey Lindie Posted by: Olympiada
» Never mind that last comment Posted by: Olympiada
» Pardon me Posted by: Olympiada
Destroying Government and Country
Posted by: dancerkc on Sep 7, 2005 6:29 AM   
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If we continue to argue the issues we see issues. Same even for the persons. We see persons. In each case it looks as if there were separate sets of items to consider for each candidate or each bill and so forth. But this is a consistent type of attack from a consistent group.

If you consider each of these actions as plundering, gutting, raping, thieving, thugging they take on a consistency. Just like total criminals (which these people are) they are interested only in plunder. Stripping our country, our people of everything of value and taking it. Like any criminal they start out brazen and get more brazen. (i.e. Bush's actions after the 2000 election without a mandate taken as if he had a mandate anyway.)

Look at the characteristics of the actions. These are not disputes about how to govern (Nixon, at least had some concept of governing, though he was personally twisted). These are not really even disputes from their point of view. These are merely offensive actions to dominate us through our own shock and disbelief that this could be happening.

We are parallized into in-action, unprepared for this kind of fight by our own belief that these are people who can be talked to. When you get attacked on the street it isn't fear that stops effective response, it is shock, confusion and difficulty believing this could be happening. A term like sociopath only scratches the surface. Look at the actions and their effect.

I was once told that most criminals are caught because they just keep doing crime. They don't just stop. If you have ever been burgled or had your car torn apart by crowbars and or been awakened to an unwelcome presence in your room (I have, all of them and a couple more) you know how totally a criminal act guts not only your physical goods but your insides and how disregardful that criminal is of anything but his/her own bruttish impulses (even gleefull and thrill-seeking).

It is a signature you feel in your gut. These people fit that signature to a tee.

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