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A REAL Invasion of Privacy

By Scott Thill, AlterNet. Posted April 22, 2005.


The REAL ID Act would construct a military fence along the whole Southwestern border and require all immigrants to carry ID cards. It's a perfect example of how anti-immigrant, anti-privacy legislation is snuck through Congress in the name of "immigration reform."
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If at first you don't succeed, then try again.

Both the Bush administration and its conservative base have taken that maxim to heart with a vengeance. After realizing that it would be impossible to avoid a Democratic filibuster of a proposed bill allowing drilling in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in the president's first term, Republicans piggy-backed the volatile proposition into a budget measure (which is immune to filibustering) in his second one. The fact that Democrats accused the opposition of bending the rules didn't seem to bother anyone. Republicans in the House and Senate recently tried the same thing with the REAL ID Act, a contentious piece of so-called immigration reform inserted surreptitiously into a House version of the Iraq Supplemental Appropriations bill. The bill passed in the House but was removed at the last minute from a Senate version of the supplemental bill when its sponsor, Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia, realized it didn't have enough support. Stalled in conference committee right now, the bill has sparked an outcry among immigration groups across the nation, as well as civil liberties organizations worldwide.

"This is a refugee-bashing bill that would not protect Americans from terrorists and suspected terrorists already categorically barred from asylum," argues Erin Callahan, Western Regional Director of Amnesty International. "If passed, the Act would place burdens on asylum-seekers that would likely fall hardest on the most vulnerable among them."

The ACLU agrees. "The REAL ID Act is a civil rights disaster," explains Ahilan Arulanantham, attorney for the ACLU's Southern California chapter. "Several provisions effectively limit or end judicial review of immigration cases, including refugee cases, and that is a very serious issue."

The REAL ID Act (H.R. 418) encompasses four major provisions ostensibly designed to correct what Wisconsin Representative F. James Sensenbrenner called in a February 9 discussion on the House floor national "vulnerabilities" on "terrorist travel" noted by the 9/11 commission's report. Sensenbrenner, who also serves as the House Judiciary Committee Chairman, introduced H.R. 418 into the House version of the Iraq Supplemental Appropriations bill after the GOP was unsuccessful in attaching similar legislation, opposed by both the commissioners and majority of 9/11 family organizations, to the expansive Intelligence Reform Bill that passed in December 2004 with an overwhelming 89-2 vote.

But in the spirit of the 21st-century's never-say-die GOP, Rep. Sensenbrenner pushed onward with REAL ID, after holding up passage of the Intelligence Reform Bill because it dropped the Act's provisions, which were opposed by Harry Reid and Bill Frist alike. Finally, unable to get the votes on its own, Reprensentative Sensenbrenner snuck the bill on to something else entirely, to the indignation of immigrants and asylum seekers worldwide.

In a recent TomPaine.com article. Michigan Congressman John Conyers argues that the REAL ID Act is "anti-immigration legislation" and includes "provisions limiting [America's] asylum laws, making it easier to deport legal immigrants, denying immigrants long-standing habeus corpus rights, imposing onerous new driver's license requirements on the states, and waiving all federal laws concerning the construction of fences and barriers." Sensenbrenner's aforementioned rationale for REAL ID on the House floor is, of course, far more general and alarmist, insisting that the "Act contains a common-sense provision that helps protect Americans from terrorists who have infiltrated the United States" and that the current immigration problems Americans are experiencing are due to, what else, "liberal activist judges."

But civil rights organizations are livid that, once again, the GOP is using the back door to get its highly unpopular policies passed.


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Scott Thill runs the online mag Morphizm.com, while finding the time to rant for Salon, XLR8R, All Music Guide, AOL and others. His first novel, The Dangerous Perhaps, should be done by the time the War on Terrorism is over.

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IT'S REFRESHING TO READ A GREAT POST THAT SHOWS COMPASSION!!!
Posted by: WONDERWALEYE on Apr 22, 2005 7:53 AM   
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I would like to thank you for the above post!!! I certainly feel that you think as one of those old time AMERICANS that know's what made this country GREAT!! The trouble today is that there has been such a gap in time that folks have forgotten what this country was all about!! I went to MEXICO to a medical clinic with a doctor and was able to see first hand the strife these MEXICAN folks face. Not enough medicine, very little follow up, to get to and in front of the medical clinic was GIANT pot holes that never get fixed, shack's all around the clinic that a AMERICAN would not allow folks to live in in this country, and the big AMERICAN factories that over work the folks for $70.00 a week. That is if you healthy enough and blessed enough to even land a job. The doctor got front page coverage in a very big news paper in MEXICO for discribing the clinic and it's lack of med's to even take care of folks. He was told by the elected officials that he will not do that again!!! or he would face big trouble from above. Many AMERICAN folks just have no Idea what life is like in MEXICO. I visited a little shack with the doctor that mutiple familly's live in. A relitive was there dying in the bed and the doctor said that their was nothing the clinic could do because there were no facilites to handle the care she would need. That day was a real eye opener for me and I shall never forget it. Now to the few[when you concider MEXICO'S population] that have the courage and strenth to survive all the real hardship of crossing a desert that is very deadly, I feel we ought to have compassion enough to see to it that they be given a chance to prove themselves worthy of being called an AMERICAN. This is truly survival of only the strongest and these type of folks can make AMERICA STRONG!!!! MAY THE LOVE OF JESUS BE WITH YOU!!![this has two meanings]

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A Real Invasion of Privacy
Posted by: Gma1 on Apr 22, 2005 7:54 AM   
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I am not in favor of any law that does not allow for taking in immigrants that are being persecuted at home. However, my parents taught me that if one breaks the law, one must pay the penalty. "If you can't do the time - don't do the crime!" Entering the United States of America illegally (under no duress from one's own country) IS ILLEGAL! What is it that the ACLU and other "immigration protection" organizations don't get? ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL OR - A ROSE BY ANOTHER NAME IS STILL A ROSE OR IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK AND TALKS LIKE A DUCK IT IS A DUCK. Can you understand those simple terms. I just can't get more basic, sorry.

Will you please print here exactly what laws the Minute-Men, who are protecting our borders and spotting ILLEGALS for the border guards, and law enforcement agencies, have broken. SPECIFIC, DOCUMENTED, CHECKABLE INSTANCES ONLY, PLEASE! I continue to hear from the above organizations that they have "broken laws". But no one ever mentions specific instances. I do not see them as vigilantes. I think the tea is in the water. This is a question of AMERICAN CITIZENS' RIGHTS. It is a slap in the face to all our wonderful LEGAL IMMIGRANTS to protect ILLEGALS.

My mother's family immigrated here from Europe. They had to have sponsors, a job offer, a place to live and THEY HAD TO LEARN TO READ, WRITE AND SPEAK THE LANGUAGE BEFORE THEY COULD SWEAR AN OATH TO BE GOOD CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. They actually had to pass a TEST! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT? Will you please also, tell me what is objectionable in that? Please, illegals have no rights. They have broken the law. Get it?

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» RE: A Real Invasion of Privacy Posted by: davidphogan74
theID is anti- illegal immigration no inti-immigration
Posted by: kevns007 on Apr 22, 2005 8:23 AM   
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Shill doesn't know how to distinguish the difference between illegal and legal immigration. Assholes like him are supporting the invasion of our Country by Mexico, inadvertantly, by not investigating the fact that there's a real and organized effort to take over the Southwest by sheer numbers. Organized! And the fact that business uses these people for cheap labor (if they could go back to slave labor they would in a heartbeat) is only undermining our middle class and turning America into a third world country. Way to go, Shill, you dumb fuck.

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Dialogue is needed
Posted by: jakealeah on Apr 22, 2005 9:17 AM   
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Laws passed to control legal immigration are nothing but a positive for this great country. We have turned a blind eye to our borders and it is time for common sense immigration laws. The Real ID legislation has some postive benefits as well as negative, we need to have a dialogue on this and come up an improved version. I for one believe that you have rights in this country that are protected only when you live her legally.

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The hate will deter immigration
Posted by: elmysterio on Apr 22, 2005 10:26 AM   
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I think the current contitions in the United States, if continued, will drive the "stars" from people's eyes and make them think twice about coming to the US for a "better life"... that "better life" is a pipe dream. Doesn't exists anymore. People who want to start a "better life" should consider other countries besides the United States. Come to Canada. We're nice here. We have lots of space. We won't treat you like shit. We're like "America with a concience". heh... My point is, the "American Dream" is dead. People should really reconsider where they want to relocate to. And the fact remains that as an immigrant, you're not welcome in the U.S. Xenophobic, paranoid morons.

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This ain't gonna be long . . .
Posted by: torsers2 on Apr 22, 2005 12:05 PM   
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i am very for the legislation that was past in regards to immigrants required to show a type of identification. Whad up, folks. You ought be glad we are being looked out for. Why would we want a convict from another country entering the U.S?
It makes a difference for our security whether or not your liberal asses want to admit it. Wah, wah, wah. Our current president is looking out for us. Do you not see this?

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The worst - Section 203 - Driving Databases
Posted by: bpc on Apr 22, 2005 1:01 PM   
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The worst part of the Real ID Act of 2005 is Section 203 which will mandate that states must sign-on to the Driver License Agreement (DLA).

What does this mean ? It means that states will totally have their driving databases linked and ALL personal information will be accessible including your Social Security Number. Prime information for identity theft. What esle ? Canada and Mexico will participate in this DLA as well. So your personal information will be available to foreign officials and there is no distinction between honest and corrupt officials within North America especially Mexico.

Look at thet DLA Document (PDF) . Concerning Canada and Mexico, look on page 4, item 11 in the PDF Document.

What else does this DLA entail as well ? It means that traffic violations even in foreign countries will go against your home state driving record with points. Another part of section 203 require that ALL motor vehicle violations are on your driving record even tickets for busted taillight, illegal parking. Most states will only put moving violations or violations that accure points on your record while non-moving violations such as equipment, parking are not recorded.

This legislation has good ideas but bad consequences. Remember, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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A different take:
Posted by: thoth on Apr 23, 2005 11:57 AM   
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How about they are not preparing mearsures to keep others out, but are getting ready to keep the United States population "IN".

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A secure NATIONAL IDENTIFICATION CARD would protect legal immigrants and US citizens.
Posted by: mariannephillips on Apr 23, 2005 3:44 PM   
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Having lived and worked as an educator in over 12 foreign countries, I have had to submit to many invasions of my "USA" rights (AIDS test & surrender passport-Saudi Arabia; total control of all whether citizen or foreigner-China; fingerprinted "alien ID card"-Japan, etc.) none of which I would recommend for the USA. However, the USA immigation service (INS-prior to 9/11) lacked and still lacks any reasonable controls or clear monitoring of who is/was entering and staying in the USA, legally or illegally. We have over 6,000 miles of virtually unguarded land borders alone. There are over TEN MILLION ILLEGAL immigrants using taxpayer-funded programs in healthcare, food stamps, public education, housing and employment. Fears of loss of privacy should we have a national ID are truly specious: there IS NO PRIVACY ANY MORE! Your SSN and other "personal" data is already available to identity thieves and anyone else, as I --and millions of other Americans--have found to my great chagrin. I would gladly have a national, secure ID/passport card (which we all will need by 2007 to re-enter the USA from Canada and Mexico, and sooner from other places in the Americas) and a national driver's license based on its information. I would welcome my ID's being protected from increasingly adept predators, and my standard of living's being preserved against the increasing numbers of illegals coming into a cozy system that protects them and their slave-wage employers from the law, the same laws that are supposed to protect the legal and law-abiding among us, but which, at least now, actually discriminate against those who follow the rules. My civil liberties--and the vast majority of the rest of us all as law-abiding, taxpaying citizens-- have been curtailed in order to "protect" the "rights" of illegal immigrants, their illegal network of forgers and scam artists, and the entire network of employers who knowingly employ them to do work at slave wages in order to bump up their bottom line. Let's start thinking rationally, compassionately and clearly to protect all who live or wish to live in the USA and abide by its laws in a democratic and cooperative manner. Let's put our efforts into improving education and opportunities for Americans and legal immigrants who are productive members of society--or who would like to be, if they have a chance. Illegal activity should be PROSECUTED, NOT PROTECTED!

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