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Ugly Truth: Most U.S. Kids Sentenced to Die In Prison Are Black

By Liliana Segura, AlterNet. Posted November 11, 2009.


The U.S. stands alone in the world in condemning thousands of juveniles to life without parole. And race is a huge factor. Will the Supreme Court even consider it?
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This is the second in a two-part series on juvenile life without parole. Read Part One here.

On Monday the U.S. Supreme Court heard two cases that could have major implications for the way juvenile offenders are treated in our criminal justice system. Sullivan v. Florida and Graham v. Florida both involve men who are serving life without the possibility of parole for crimes they were convicted of as teenagers -- crimes in which no one was killed.

Joe Sullivan was only 13 years old when he was accused of sexually assaulting a 72-year-old woman in her Pensacola, Fla., home, hours after he and a group of older teenagers robbed her house. Sullivan, who reportedly suffers from mental disabilities, insisted that, while he participated in the robbery, he did not commit the rape. But his co-defendants, 15-year-old Michael Gulley and 17-year-old Nathan McCants, 17 pinned the crime on him. Both were tried as juveniles; Sullivan was tried as an adult.

Sullivan is African American, a fact that was stressed repeatedly at trial. The victim, Lena Bruner, testified that her assailant was "a colored boy" with "kinky hair" -- "he was quite black, and he was small," she said. Bruner admitted that she "did not see him full in the face," but she remembered him saying, "If you can't identify me, I may not have to kill you."

According to the New York Times, "at his trial, Mr. Sullivan was made to say those words several times." ("'It's been six months,' the woman said on the witness stand. 'It's hard, but it does sound similar.' ")

Sullivan had shabby representation -- his lawyer didn't bother making an opening statement and later lost his license to practice in Florida -- and his one-day trial should have cast serious doubts about his guilt. "The only physical evidence was a fingerprint lifted from a plaque in the bedroom, which could have been made during the burglary," wrote Amy Bach in Slate last week. "The clothing and other evidence have been destroyed and couldn't be tested for DNA." Nevertheless, he was found guilty, and at 14, Sullivan became the youngest person in the country to be sentenced to life without parole.

"I'm going to send him away for as long as I can," the judge said.

Today, Sullivan is one of some 109 prisoners in the country whose non-homicide crimes have condemned them to leave prison only in a coffin. No fewer than 76 of those prisoners are behind bars in Florida. (Until last month there were 77, but 29-year-old Travis Underhill, sentenced to life in 1999 for armed robbery, "collapsed while playing basketball at a Palm Beach County prison on Oct. 8 and died," according to the Miami Herald.) The vast majority -- 84 percent, in Florida -- are African American. On a national level, according to Human Rights Watch, African American youths are serving life without parole at a rate of about 10 times that of white youths.

Monday's oral arguments covered a lot of ground, including whether life-without-parole is comparable to the death penalty (which has been banned for juveniles); whether the purpose, ultimately, is about deterrence or retribution -- "What is the State's interest in keeping ... the defendant in custody for the rest of his life if he has been rehabilitated and is no longer a real danger?" --  whether, for sentencing purposes, there's any practical difference between a 13-year-old or a 10-year-old -- or, for that matter, an 18-year-old and a 17-and-11-month-old ("the line has to be drawn somewhere.") At points, it got downright philosophical ("Why does a juvenile have a constitutional right to hope, but an adult does not?" asked Justice Kennedy.) But at the center of the argument was the question of whether children -- and their potential for rehabilitation -- should be judged by the same standards as that of grown-ups. "To not recognize the difference between a child and an adult is cruel and unusual," defense attorney Bryan Stevenson told Justice Antonin Scalia.

Conspicuously absent from the oral arguments, however, was any discussion of race. The one time Stevenson attempted to mention it, as one of the "arbitrary features" of the distribution of life-without-parole sentences -- these prisoners are "disproportionately kids of color," Stevenson said -- he was interrupted by Justice Alito, who questioned the reliability of his statistics. ("What is your response to the State's argument that these statistics are not peer-reviewed?" he asked.)

It can be tricky to pin down exact numbers when it comes to specific prison populations from state to state, particularly given the differences between sentencing statutes across the country. And states have not traditionally kept track of how many juveniles are in their adult prisons. But when it comes to juvenile lifers, there are some figures that have been widely accepted (and not contested by the state of Florida.)


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Believe This
Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Nov 11, 2009 1:55 AM   
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FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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Political "Justice"
Posted by: gazooks on Nov 11, 2009 2:06 AM   
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How many times have we witnesses politically ambitious prosecutors requesting and being granted adult status for juvenile offenders from politically ambitious judges?

Personally, I can't remember the last time that a high profile case involving an accused juvenile in a violent crime did not involve such a request, and it's granting by a judge not wanting to appear "soft".

When "for profit" prisons are part of the equation, there is then the salivating corruption of being able to fill a cell for profit, for life, which has proven an intermittent embarrassment for states like Colorado and Pennsylvania.

There is NOTHING more perverse in our society than the political and commercial incentives in law enforcement, prosecution and incarceration of youth in-particular. Lust for the building and maintenance of aggressive reputations for "zero tolerance" for offending youth by shallow and short sighted minds, feeds the fear necessary for publicized vote getting.

America, while patting itself on the back as the freedom watchdog for the world, creates domestic nightmare misery and hellish injustice in quenching it's own self inflicted fear with self perpetuating hypocrisy.

Railroading youth, especially those socially disadvantaged, is predatory crime of the first order committed by a legal system of the lowest order.

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No Justice, No Peace
Posted by: pangolin on Nov 11, 2009 3:43 AM   
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When you take a kid who has no right to drive, have sex, buy tobacco or beer and throw them in prison for life you KNOW you are doing wrong.

When the state acts in this fashion it's agents become occupiers instead of representatives of engaged citizens.

Next time you hear of a police officer shot at random think back on this article. The only relevant information about these kids jailed for life is that they are black. The cop was blue.

It's all just a color war without true justice.

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Hold the phone
Posted by: solrev on Nov 11, 2009 5:23 AM   
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Little miss ivory tower come with me to a street in Chicago. I will drop you off, and all you have to do is walk down the street for six blocks, and I will pick you up. If you can not walk the walk, you can not talk the talk. You mourn for a few 100 black kids in prison and a 1000 times that number of kids go to school in Chicago under a potential death sentence every day. We have a problem but the number of blacks young or old in prison is not it. Look at prisons and all you will see is a symptom. Come out of your ivory tower and take a look at the street people who are not in prison. Racism may have played a large roll in how we got here, but it is not the root cause of why we stay here.

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» RE: Hold the phone Posted by: Richardsievert
Until inner city blacks can get their...
Posted by: Allstar Cookie on Nov 11, 2009 6:30 AM   
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...families in order, nothing will change.

Kids producing kids producing kids....and on and on it goes.

The real crime happening in our inner cities and low income communities across this country is the reproductive choice to not use any birth control.

Then, as a crutch.....an old rickety stick used as a crutch.....the word racism is thrown out there as the excuse for this irresponsible lifestyle.

On it goes.

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» RE: Try this on for size Mr. Cookie Posted by: Allstar Cookie
» RE: Try this on for size Mr. Cookie Posted by: Allstar Cookie
Then.....
Posted by: Allstar Cookie on Nov 11, 2009 6:38 AM   
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...children are basically trying to raise themselves.....children that have no real solid family foundation.....no one at home helping with homework......mothers with limited education and job skills working two low paying jobs.......fathers not involved at all or in jail.

So...the kids drop out....join gangs.....hang on the streets....kill or get killed........or go to prison.

Sounds like fun to me.


Of course....that old rickety stick comes out.

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Really tragic
Posted by: majr17440 on Nov 11, 2009 6:44 AM   
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Equal education for all.

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» RE: eally tragic Posted by: Allstar Cookie
» RE: eally tragic Posted by: Quannah
» RE: eally tragic Posted by: Allstar Cookie
» RE: eally tragic Posted by: Quannah
Clash of Cultures
Posted by: throck on Nov 11, 2009 6:41 AM   
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The cornerstones of modern black culture are violence, anger and laziness. These values are incompatible with what the rest of us perceive to be civilized society. If blacks could contain their slaughter within their own communities it would be possible to let them live their lives as they choose but they do not. They rob, rape and kill without discretion and so must deal with the laws of the larger communities in which they live. The facts are that these youthful offenders were not sentenced to life in prison because they are black, but because they committed heinous crimes and refused to accept the limits of our society. They are now part of a society that embraces their values and can eat, sleep and live at taxpayer expense without the bother of working for a living. They have accomplished their goals and deserve far less sympathy than the author suggests. They just reached their "retirement" at an earlier age than some of their peers. Not all people with dark skin embrace "black culture" and most in fact live peaceful and productive lives but those who take pride in the violence and uncontrolled anger of Da Hood must accept the results of their actions regardless of their calendar age.

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» RE: Clash of Cultures Posted by: saucerattack
» RE: Clash of Cultures Posted by: chrysalis124812
» RE: Clash of Cultures-More... Posted by: Allstar Cookie
» RE: Clash of Cultures-More... Posted by: saucerattack
» RE: Clash of Cultures-More... Posted by: Cybershaman
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» RE: Clash of Cultures Posted by: Quannah
Florida
Posted by: jleman on Nov 11, 2009 7:01 AM   
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Florida is part of the problem where a state is allowed openly to continue to skirt the federal law and practice discrimination in non-declared forms. That said, during elections, the police and the political elite(Republicans) still seek to intimidate and openly discourage people of color voting. Growing up in this state made me aware of all of the forms they use in disenfranchising people of color and economic status. It is the lowest form of banana republic feifdom. This is what a slave fed plantation system morphs into. If there were to ever be a level playing field in Florida, the state, county and city government would have to be put into receivership and manned by a nondiscriminating force at all levels. Corruption has always been at the heart of this system. The difference from yesterday to today is that they rarely wear the sheets and have exchanged them for expensive suits. They are still a white minority oppressing people not of their race. The judiciary should be wearing white robes with pointy hats just like their fathers and grandfathers. In fact, if all of the whites were forced to wear this attire one could do away with the disguise of hypocrisy.
Florida remains a backwater banana republic run by racists who are backed up through their counterparts in other southern states in the federal government. This includes the Supreme Court. It is no surprise that their prison system turns out hardened criminals, and imprisons children for life. Nothing has changed over the one and a half hundred years except technology. The rulers are still the little, mean spirited white people. They changed their mantles from being called "Democrates" to "Republicans" because of the Civil Rights legislation. Their churches became their castles. Christ's teachings were long ago deemed too radically liberal to even be considered. After all, what they have is a "slave" problem. Freed slaves, yes. But that was forced upon them so they have the justification to still fight righteously against those laws over the generations. Their hearts haven't changed one bit. They now substitute "those people" for "nigger" in public speech.
Putting a child in prison for life is nothing more than a public display of the ignorance they use in governing which comes from a serious problem of political inbreeding. One could make the case that Florida, out of the fifty children in the family of the Union, is part of the few which remains ignorant out of choice. They enjoy their corruption, meanness and ignorance because it pays them well. One could say they "dehumanize" others but the truth is closer said that they never considered those "others" as human in the first place. It is a systemic problem rooted in their basic views of life.

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delinquency
Posted by: manfred82 on Nov 11, 2009 7:03 AM   
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The fact that black American teenagers are the majority of the juveniles sentenced to imprisonment for life is not due to any racial discrimination from the law or from the government, but has got deep causes related to social racism that often lead black young people to delinquency.

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» RE: delinquency Posted by: saucerattack
» RE: delinquency Posted by: Quannah
This article is missing a bit of critical information
Posted by: mlee on Nov 11, 2009 7:08 AM   
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The author states this claim about the youths imprisoned for life:
"The vast majority -- 84 percent, in Florida -- are African American"

This statistic is meaningless without the accompanying percentage crimes of this nature are committed by african americans. For instance if Whites committed 90% of the serious crimes that are met by life sentences, then this alarm bell is horribly understated, if whites only committed 10% of these crimes then the alarm is overrated as the whites are actually over represented.

While I may guess that whites do commit more than 16% of those crimes, I don't know that, and this article isn't telling.

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» Extremely fair point... Posted by: EncinoM
Posters
Posted by: jleman on Nov 11, 2009 7:38 AM   
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All ye who cast the stones - who've never been there or experienced discrimination or traveled to where you've been discriminated against or not been paid a fair wage for your work based upon your gender, skin color, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion or even which church you attend,,,,. your ignore is showing.

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ABSENCE OF PRINCIPLES AND ETHICS
Posted by: cori on Nov 11, 2009 7:39 AM   
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As Amy Goodman said , we are the only developed nation on Earth that does this to kids. This is a crime against humanity and we as a moral nation are scrapping the bottom of the barrel. I just got off the phone with my senator protesting this horrible abuse and you should too. As Michael Moore said" What have we become and who are we." We the people must cry out and tell out reps that this is not the kind of nation we want to be. I am so sick and tired of electing people who don't represent us!

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Melaniki
Posted by: Khelama2 on Nov 11, 2009 7:57 AM   
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There is definitely a prison for profit motive behind this. The younger the inmate the greater the life expectancy, and the greater the assurance a body will be present in the jail cells of America. Last I checked, the prison industry was one of the fastest growing and most profitable particularly in rural economically depressed towns. Moreover, those who hold the most stocks in these new "corporations" are overwhelmingly white, generally male, politicians and high level members of law enforcement. Add to this fact the racial incentives and preexisting historical prejudice against primarily black males and you have the perfect stew for a conspiracy to continue as Douglas Blackmon's evocative book so beautifully documented: "Slavery By Another Name." In his volume, he proves that slavery continued long after 1865, well into the 50's in fact, through the clever manipulation of the criminal justice system by former slave owners and corporate bigwigs who needed free labor. The prison system provided the perfect venue for that labor. Jim Crow laws were set up in which black men could not venture into certain areas beyond a certain time of day, had to have documentation or proof they had a right to be in off limit areas, further they could be rounded up at any time for any reason, arrested under "vagrancy" laws or "trespassing" laws or "attempted burglary or theft" by reason of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The favorite crime that brought the most justifiable sentence was "rape or attempted rape of" a white female. Remember 14 year old Emmett Till's murder for the same charge? More times than not these were lies. Generally white witnesses were gathered to testify and hasty court proceedings where these men were given a choice to either work for years or the rest of their lives as quasi-slaves in mines, on farms or plantations of whites who paid the outrageous fines set up by judges in kangaroo courts, which was really a "purchase" of a slave for life. This is what you see continuing to this day on some level in court systems around this nation. It is beyond imagining that evil could so dement the minds of men that the life of a child, however misguided, means nothing. It is time now for deep investigation into the nature of that evil. This is more than color of skin. This is a darkness of the soul that has ruled too long.

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Let's be honest: We have a Draconian penal system that has taken hold of this nation, and it's
Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Nov 11, 2009 8:17 AM   
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racist too!!!

Moreover, the spectacle of the "DC Sniper" being put to death last night was like an evil, disgusting, Medieval festival of retribution, revenge, blood feud, etc.!!!

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This is America
Posted by: aahpat on Nov 11, 2009 8:41 AM   
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Come out with your hands up!

That is the last thing heard by the members of the multi-racial back to nature group MOVE in May 1985 when the Philadelphia police fired 10,000 rounds of ammunition into their home and then burned down 63 homes to wipe MOVE from the face of the earth. Eleven people died that day including five children.

"This is America, come out with you hands up!"

Words to live by in this puritanical authoritarian Jim Crow run nation.

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The Ugliets Truth
Posted by: uncertain on Nov 11, 2009 10:03 AM   
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The ugliest truth is that African-Americans make up less than 15% of all US population, yet manage to be the perpetrators of over 80% of all violent crimes (rapes, robberies, murders, etc.).

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» you lie, DoJ stat is 19% 2005 Posted by: tazdelaney
» You're an idiot. Posted by: uncertain
» RE: you lie, DoJ stat is 19% 2005 Posted by: Caleb Darkstar
This may seem a little insensitive..
Posted by: Gyre on Nov 11, 2009 10:30 AM   
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But does anybody else here think that a major cause of this stat is due to bad or inadequate parenting?

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Uhhh, Your Racism is Showing...
Posted by: 2Cool on Nov 11, 2009 11:08 AM   
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LOL! Some of the posters here love that "white privelege". Save your "truth" and your "stats" and let's be real for a moment.

Round up EVERYONE responsible for this financial mess our country is in, everyone responsible for these bogus "wars on terrorism" and let's see how many of them are black.

The point of the article is that the people in power are using that power against people who are not "like" them. So, 17-year old Ray Ray gets caught on the streets with crack cocaine and is sentenced to life in prison while Adam gets caught with cocaine and gets sentenced to rehab.

That's good, old-fashioned American justice hard at work!

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life in prison for JUDGES!
Posted by: tazdelaney on Nov 11, 2009 11:50 AM   
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supreme court justices should be serving life in prison without parole. note that these kids aren't jailed for homicides... read a couple years ago about this 18 year old in oklahoma who was sent up for 15 years for giving a 15 year old a blowjob. when he finally gets out, hope he goes after the judge to get some real justice...

china and afghanistan changed their laws and now the only countries that do this to kids are america and somalia. my guess is that the supreme court will continue it, too, just to show the world what barbarians we really are, (as if that wasn't splat in the world's face by now.) it was just a couple years ago that we became the very last nation on earth to ban the execution of retarded people. bush, when governor of texas, joked about executing retarded young blacks, which he did more than anyone on earth...

US is 70% white but 31% of prisoners are white as they spend 7x more on lawyers and paying off judges... blacks are 13% of americans but are 51% of prisoners...

the rightwing hrumph and say, or think, that this is due to the blacks being 'immoral and basically criminal.' however, wasn't it good white christians who exterminated tens of millions of native peoples and murdered some 8 million africans in the slave trade, then some 35-40 million more africans in the full colonization of africa. put the few surviving injuns into concentration camps called 'reservations' where many were forced, (as were many black slaves) to worship in white man's churches. lynchings, degraded, ridiculed and imprisoned at these rates... if any race has shown itself to be immoral and basically criminal throughout history, the whites take the prize... and i happen to have a white body...

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limbaugh-league klan racists in here
Posted by: tazdelaney on Nov 11, 2009 12:16 PM   
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more and more, when i go to any of the 'liberal' websites comment rooms, like alternet/wapo/times, etc., i see they are invaded by whole squadrons of rightwing bloodlusting drool. and the violence level is rising drastically.

i found myself recently at a site called disqus that i was directed to by WaPo oped and i couldn't believe the level of violence and threats therein. whew, i mean it gives pause that one of these goons might start stalking one, beat or kill you. being white, they probably wouldn't even be charged...

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» Washington Post Posted by: chaoslegs
Nice to see the old racist canards are in place
Posted by: Kym525 on Nov 11, 2009 12:43 PM   
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"if inner city blacks could do better", "if inner city blacks didn't have so many kids" ad nauseum.

Do we EVER stop to discuss the sad fact that it's easier to incarcerate than educate inner city children? Do we ever talk about the sad fact that we have a society that basically tells inner city kids--both black and brown--that they are worthless? Do we ever stop to discuss the fact that there are more Bernie Madoffs out there but it's easier to lock up some young non-violent offender for doing something stupid because it makes judges and politicians look "tough"?

There are just as many success stories coming from the inner city as their are the non-success stories, but people choose to remain blind. We cut programs that have been shown to help keep kids away from the temptations of crime and street life, calling them "entitlements".

What's worse is that these issues aren't being addressed because as Eric Holder said, we are a nation of cowards when it comes to race. No one wants to feel offended so we continuously tip-toe around the issue. We ignore it at our peril.

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What Goes Around...
Posted by: 2Cool on Nov 11, 2009 1:00 PM   
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Kids who are molested are more than likely to be molesters when they grow up. Kids who are abused are more than likely to be abusers when they grow up. It's called the "facts of life".

So, why do you think a group of people who were humiliated, raped and murdered like filthy animals would "grow up" to be civilized? Violence has, and always will be, part of the "black" culture because it was instilled in us a LONG time ago.

Once slavery was abolished, slave owners told their "property":

"You're free. We don't owe you jack ish but go out and make a life for yourself".

"Oh and by the way, if you try any of the stuff that we did to you on anyone else in this here country of America, we will tar, feather and hang you".

Good, old-fashion American justice hard at work. And it's a damn shame! LOL!

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Let's talk about METH
Posted by: Kym525 on Nov 11, 2009 2:31 PM   
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as in Methamphetamine.

It's pretty interesting that most meth users are WHITE. And though meth has been called an "epidemic" in much of the Midwest and southern states, the way it's handled in regards to dealing with the issue is a damn sight more tolerant than the crack epidemic.

I live in Los Angeles and I see billboards and other advertisment highlighting meth abuse and numbers where abusers can seek help. I didn't see this during the crack epidemic, but I DID see a LOT of people who were first-timers or who were in the wrong place at the wrong time tossed in jail. There was a young woman, in college and on the fast-track to success, caught up in her boyfriend's drug-dealing (though she wasn't) and tossed behind bars without any consideration as to the fact she'd NEVER been in ANY trouble whatsoever. I've seen a television show on A&E about the meth epidemic in which not ONE of the abusers was even threatened with jail time. They were given help--one young man whose teeth had become ruined due to continuous meth usage actually had replacement work done for FREE. I thought the law and order folks believed in "lock em up" when it comes to drugs. Oh wait, Limbaugh got caught with drugs but HE certainly didn't do any time either.

We have shows like 'Intervention' where mainly white abusers are given second and sometimes THIRD chances to get their lives straight. A white drug user who gets clean and sober gets to write a book about life as an addict and everyone raves about it.

The entire War on Drugs is a farce, which any sane person knows already. It's also a racist war that does NOTHING to stem the flow of drugs nor to deal with those societal forces which make people turn to illicit drugs and the profits in the first place.

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The Real World Is Not On Your TV Or Your Computer Screen
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Nov 11, 2009 4:13 PM   
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You Need To Go Out Of Your House and Talk To Real People - and Be a Friend and Understand Their Real Problems and Real Emotions and Be a Heart Of Gold To Your Friends in The Real World..

People are Crying For Love and Attention...

They Maybe working their hearts and souls out with regards to the injustices of this world -like the contents of this article....

But you need to make real friends first

Real People Who Really Care and Have Got The Passion and Intelligence To Try and Do Something About The Injustices In This World...

Of Course at First They Will Not Want To Know about other peoples problems because they are hurting so much about their own....

But with Love The Spirit Grows and Fighting Injustice Brings Like Minded People Together - And You Are Working as a Team With Your Friends - With a Common Cause To Fight This Horror - And You Suddenly Realise...

And You Fall In Love With Your FRIEND

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Barbaric System
Posted by: Gravitas on Nov 11, 2009 5:52 PM   
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The whole system needs an overhaul. From racial bias in sentencing to what happens inside. I recently found out a childhood friend is incarcerated. I am shocked by the allegations in this article. (Scroll down to Butt Naked with the Sheridan Cowboys.)
http://tinyurl.com/ydkbyv7
Sexual abuse can not be tolerated anywhere!

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» RE: Barbaric System Posted by: richholland
» RE: Barbaric System Posted by: Gravitas
Racism is a part of American Culture
Posted by: eosrk on Nov 11, 2009 6:38 PM   
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RACISM TODAY, RACISM TOMORROW, RACISM FOREVER

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Life in prison equals
Posted by: Romantic Violence on Nov 11, 2009 7:56 PM   
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eugenic population control. Lock up people during their sexual peak for life or past their most reproductive years, then you will have a declining birth rate in the target population. These folks that 'run' government have calculated this decades in advance of what's going on today. The only reason why this happens is because 'law enforcement' along with the media prey upon white fears of Black criminality which means that government policies, foreign and domestic, are supported by the vast majority of white people in the country. Look at the imaginary 'war on terror'. So does this surprise anyone? It's all self fulfilling.


FTW

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» RE: Life in prison equals Posted by: richholland
Kids Sentenced to Die In Prison Are Black...
Posted by: Bearzerker on Nov 12, 2009 4:42 AM   
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Why doesnt this supprise me?

90% of the US is luving caring bunch

10% are pure evil with the remainder not realizing it or not caring enough to deal with it.

americans need to get off the pot and see how the rest of the world lives... traveling would enlighten most

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Concerning the racist comments
Posted by: daw13 on Nov 12, 2009 6:58 AM   
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Which happily get few recommendations. But is the assumption that these are right-wing extremists accurate? If so, all is as one would expect. If not, this is truly worrisome. My fear is that many are libertarians, who mask themselves as progressives. I also fear that progressives are not distancing themselves from this group -- witness Daily Kos.

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Posted by: mnstra on Nov 12, 2009 10:38 AM   
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Young black males commit most of the crime at that level- White men in business suits commit most of the crime at that level,
Lets house the young black males in places with the wall street CEOs, maybe they may neutralize each other.

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Amerikkka...a racist genocidal nihilistic country!
Posted by: Restie on Nov 16, 2009 9:40 PM   
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No justice at home, no justice abroad.

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