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Obama Is Keeping Bush's Worst "War on Terror" Policies Firmly In Place
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We know the rules by now, the strange conventions and stilted Kabuki scripts that govern our cartoon facsimile of a national security debate. The Obama administration makes vague, reassuring noises about constraining executive power and protecting civil liberties, but then merrily adopts whatever appalling policy George W. Bush put in place. Conservatives hit the panic button on the right-wing noise machine anyway, keeping the delicate ecosystem in balance by creating the false impression that something has changed. We've watched the formula play out with Guantánamo Bay, torture prosecutions and the invocation of "state secrets." We appear to be on the verge of doing the same with national security surveillance.
Last week, the Senate Judiciary Committee seemed to abandon hope of bringing any real change to the Patriot Act. A lopsided and depressingly bipartisan majority approved legislation that would reauthorize a series of expanded surveillance powers set to expire at the end of the year. Several senators had proposed that reauthorization be wedded to safeguards designed to protect the privacy of innocent Americans from indiscriminate data dragnets -- but behind-the-scenes maneuvering by the Obama administration ensured that even the most modest of these were stripped from the final bill now being sent to the full Senate.
In September the Senate got off to a promising start. Only three provisions are actually slated for "sunset" this year: "lone wolf" authority to wiretap terror suspects unconnected with any foreign terror group; "roving" wiretaps that can follow a suspect across an indefinite number of phone lines and Internet accounts; and "Section 215" orders that can be used to compel third parties to turn over any "tangible thing" investigators believe may be relevant to a terrorism investigation. Yet several Democrats had signaled a desire to use the renewal process to undertake a much broader review of the post-9/11 surveillance architecture, including National Security Letters (NSLs) -- a controversial tool that permits the mass acquisition of financial and telecommunications records without court order -- and last year's sweeping amendments to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which permit the executive branch to authorize broad interception of Americans' international communications with minimal court oversight. Democratic Senator Russ Feingold proposed an ambitious and comprehensive reform bill called the JUSTICE Act -- which still would have reauthorized roving wiretaps and 215 orders -- while Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy offered a more modest bill that nevertheless sought to narrow the nearly unlimited scope of NSLs and Section 215.
The renewal of the expiring provisions was always a fait accompli, though Fox News and some conservative columnists falsely claimed that Democrats were scheming to eliminate them entirely. Feingold had recommended permitting the as-yet-unused "lone wolf" provision to lapse, but at hearings on renewal last month Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse didn't believe there was "any doubt" about the reapproval of all three. Rather, Whitehouse explained, the question was whether any "further refinements" might be needed to check potential abuses.
In public, the administration declared its openness to such "modifications." As well one might expect, considering that President Obama himself had co- sponsored legislation in 2005 containing many of the very same safeguards now in Feingold's bill. Even when, during the campaign, Obama had disappointed many of his supporters by voting for the very FISA Amendments Act he pledged to filibuster, he reassured them that as president he would revisit that "imperfect" bill. Civil libertarians understood that the more limited Leahy bill would provide the template for reform but had reason to hope some of the key provisions of Feingold's JUSTICE Act might be incorporated during markup.
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Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 24, 2009 2:34 AM
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Obama Every Bit as Bad as Bush/Cheney on Patriot Act
Think we DON'T live in a police state, think again ... All that is needed is already in place in law and in fact. All that's left is the implementation.
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Posted by: Paul_C on Oct 24, 2009 2:40 AM
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Here are excerpts from a 2006 USAToday article describing the highly secret program:
"The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.
The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans — most of whom aren't suspected of any crime..."
"It's the largest database ever assembled in the world," said one person, who, like the others who agreed to talk about the NSA's activities, declined to be identified by name or affiliation. The agency's goal is "to create a database of every call ever made" within the nation's borders, this person added.
For the customers of these companies, it means that the government has detailed records of calls they made — across town or across the country — to family members, co-workers, business contacts and others."
Read the full article here:
NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls
How does this differ from "Big Brother is watching"? This is frightening on so many levels.
For years the FBI, for instance, ran a shadow government under J. Edgar Hoover based upon his ability to blackmail anyone who got in his way.
During his tenure, for example, Hoover tried to harass then blackmail Martin Luther King into abandoning his work on civil rights.
In the ensuing decades the FBI would target environmental activists and anti-war protesters with illegal surveillance, harassment and state terrorism, examples of which I will post separately.
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: Paul_C on Oct 24, 2009 2:45 AM
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And do not forget the strongarm tactics used during this time period against peaceful protests from New York to Miami, not necessarily even related to protesting the war - use of undercover police and FBI to infiltrate all manner of lawful civil groups and to physically go after them with the intent of disrupting their efforts to peacefully assemble - efforts including mass false arrest, herding protesters into remote fenced-in "camps" out of sight of targeted events, physically blocking access to publicized meeting places with road blocks, targeting and arresting leaders, firing on crowds with rubber bullets and beating people with battons without provocation, spraying pepper spray in the eyes of people who were already in custody under restraint, throwing tear gas canisters into first aid station tents, and so on.
Do we really want these thugs keeping dossiers on every aspect of our lives?
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: Paul_C on Oct 24, 2009 3:00 AM
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"Thursday, May 24, 1990, is fresh in my memory. Shortly after noon, a pipe bomb exploded in Earth First! activist Judi Bari’s car as she drove through Oakland, California, with Darryl Cherney. They were organizing for Redwood Summer: a season-long campaign modeled after the 1960s civil rights campaign Mississippi Freedom Summer. We hoped to build a resistance that could stand up to the corporate timber beast and rising animosity toward forest activists.
Everything changed the moment the bomb went off. The explosion nearly killed Judi, leaving her disabled for the rest of her life. The time-delayed, motion-triggered, nail-studded bomb was meant to kill her. Within minutes of the explosion, the FBI and Oakland Police Department (OPD) were on the scene, branding Judi and Darryl as terrorists and Earth First! as a known terrorist organization. Within hours and in defiance of all evidence, the cops arrested Judi and Darryl, claiming they were knowingly transporting the bomb.
The bombing followed months of COINTELPRO-style [the FBI’s counterintelligence program] disruption of Earth First! organizing efforts: phony press releases calling for violence; fake terrorism manuals; false media stories; continuous death threats, harassment and surveillance. Even if the FBI had nothing to do with promulgating the threats, slander and violence, they certainly treated what should have been seen as solid leads in the bombing with cavalier indifference, if not a hostile cover-up."
The full story can be read here:
Earth First! Takes the FBI to Court
Earth First! won the civil lawsuit and the federal jury awarded the plaintiffs $4.4 million in compensation.
The federal government fought for 11 years to keep the case from going to trial.
peace,
Paul
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Murray: CIA used Uzbek torture to create false intelligence; support for regime continues
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Posted by: Makaainana on Oct 24, 2009 9:53 AM
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He has failed us in Torture.
He has failed us in the wars.
He has failed us in health, and is only being saved by a few Congress people that have kept the public option alive. He will then ride their coattails and claim success.
He has failed in creating jobs to end the economic problems of the middle class.
He talks great. His actions don't back it up.
What a shame. He could have been a great President. Instead he going to be a good politician.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 24, 2009 6:34 PM
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When it Came To Cooking People in Pots...
We Drew The Line...
We Said NO You Can Not Cook Human Beings in Pots And Eat Them
But The Americans said Why Not?
We Can Outsource It To Uzbekistan
And Put The Protein Into McDonalds Beef Burgers...
Craig Murray Said No
That is Not Acceptable
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/
Tony
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Oct 25, 2009 3:14 AM
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Would all of you who voted for The Worst Democrat Ever™ stop posting articles and pontificating about politics?
You seem disturbingly unaware that you have just proven yourself to be complete screw-ups. Your opinions on politics are not worth a turd.
Hello, Keith Olbermann. Hello, BuzzFlash.
Hey there, everyone at HuffPo...
Could y'all shut the f*ck up and listen to those of us who saw through Obama from the get-go? The only thing you should be saying is why we should listen to anything you say.
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Posted by: oregoncharles on Oct 25, 2009 1:02 PM
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David Swanson at davidswanson.org:
"Why is it that every time we elect "peace" candidates we defund the peace movement, stop calling for an end to wars, and limit our demands exclusively to opposing war escalations? "
He doesn't answer that question, but it's pretty obvious: because we keep on voting for non-peace candidates of an imperial party, the Democrats. Well, I don't, but far too many of us do. The Democratic Party's real job in the duopoly has become obvious: co-opting and derailing any movement for peace or social justice. I'm beginning to wonder how many times they'll pull this scam before masses of people catch on.
There IS a party with principles of peace, sustainability, and social and economic justice: the Green Party, www.gp.org.
I'm really wondering when the left in this country will "grow a spine" and start voting its principles and self-interest, instead of its fears. The consequences of gutless voting are now clear enough.
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Posted by: leonardfeingold on Oct 25, 2009 1:08 PM
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So how does one take those that post here as sane. IF we are a police state then we need a new vocabulary to desribe the examples I gave above.
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Oct 25, 2009 2:17 PM
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“Real toughness” from faux left so-called progressive magazines such as “the Nation” and AlterNOT? I think not. The place for “Real toughness” would be a real 9/11 investigation followed by real reform.
The 9/11 “war on terror” farce is built on 1000 LIES according to the Center for Public Integrity.
We are supposed to believe the 9/11 incident that started the zombie genocide world-wide killing fields is not a LIE?
Patriots Question 9/11
Osama Bin Laden denied any involvement. 9/11 Commissioner Senator Max Cleland called the official 9/11 investigation “a scam” and “national scandal” . FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds proved the U.S. government knew attacks were inbound months in advance .
That’s the tip of the cesspool.
A vastly dirty 9/11 event should have brought down the corrupt excuse for our Fascist government days after it happened. Instead we have an even more powerful Fascist state controlled by Wall Street organized corporate crime. One that seeks control over lives, and national property through endless profligate war, Wall Street looting and domestic spying on its own people.
That is NOT democracy. It is Fascism front and center.
"This is a scam. It's disgusting. America is being cheated."
Senator Max Cleland (on the 9/11 Commission “investigation” he resigned from. In an interview with Woff Blitzer on CNN 11/13/03)
"It is a national scandal. This [9/11] investigation is now compromised."
Senator Max Cleland (on the 9/11 Commission “investigation” 11/13/2003 Boston Globe)
“I saw papers that show the U.S. knew al-Qaeda would attack cities with airplanes… I gave [the 9-ll Commission] details of specific investigation files, the specific dates, specific target information, specific managers in charge of the investigation. This is not hearsay. These are things that are documented.”
MRS. SIBEL EDMONDS (whistleblower and former top-level FBI translator who gave closed session testimony to the 9-11 Commission. The Bush/Cheney administration silenced Edmonds with a court gag order citing the rarely used “state secrets privilege”. Interview UK Independent 4/2/04)
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Posted by: greenferret on Oct 25, 2009 9:49 PM
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If you don't want politicians from both corporate-sponsored parties to continue whittling down your civil rights, get active with the Green Party now.
gp.org
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Posted by: JohnHKennedy Denver CO on Oct 27, 2009 7:58 AM
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Even though we have Federal Laws and a Constitution which prohibited the Bush-Cheney crimes, President Obama and our Congressional Democrats will avoid prosecution at all cost to our republic in the misguided hope of keeping power for a long time. They pretend to offer us great change if they don't have to prosecute,
but stopping presidential (and vice presidential) abuse of power is the one thing that will cause lasting change.
We must have the courage to make them enforce our Federal Laws, especially torture, and prosecute.
Please
SIGN the PETITION
demanding prosecution at
ANGRYVOTERS.Org
And Please share this Url with all your friends and
Ask them to sign the petitions.
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Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 24, 2009 2:34 AM
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Obama Every Bit as Bad as Bush/Cheney on Patriot Act
Think we DON'T live in a police state, think again ... All that is needed is already in place in law and in fact. All that's left is the implementation.
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» Scientific Proof of 9/11 Treason..... Time to Rethink!
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» RE: Scientific Proof of 9/11 Treason..... Time to Rethink!
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» The TWIN TOWERS were destroyed by CONTROLLED DEMOLITION
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» [9/11 Advice] To the brave truth-sayers and honest seekers for truth
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Posted by: Paul_C on Oct 24, 2009 2:40 AM
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Here are excerpts from a 2006 USAToday article describing the highly secret program:
"The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.
The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans — most of whom aren't suspected of any crime..."
"It's the largest database ever assembled in the world," said one person, who, like the others who agreed to talk about the NSA's activities, declined to be identified by name or affiliation. The agency's goal is "to create a database of every call ever made" within the nation's borders, this person added.
For the customers of these companies, it means that the government has detailed records of calls they made — across town or across the country — to family members, co-workers, business contacts and others."
Read the full article here:
NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls
How does this differ from "Big Brother is watching"? This is frightening on so many levels.
For years the FBI, for instance, ran a shadow government under J. Edgar Hoover based upon his ability to blackmail anyone who got in his way.
During his tenure, for example, Hoover tried to harass then blackmail Martin Luther King into abandoning his work on civil rights.
In the ensuing decades the FBI would target environmental activists and anti-war protesters with illegal surveillance, harassment and state terrorism, examples of which I will post separately.
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: Paul_C on Oct 24, 2009 2:45 AM
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And do not forget the strongarm tactics used during this time period against peaceful protests from New York to Miami, not necessarily even related to protesting the war - use of undercover police and FBI to infiltrate all manner of lawful civil groups and to physically go after them with the intent of disrupting their efforts to peacefully assemble - efforts including mass false arrest, herding protesters into remote fenced-in "camps" out of sight of targeted events, physically blocking access to publicized meeting places with road blocks, targeting and arresting leaders, firing on crowds with rubber bullets and beating people with battons without provocation, spraying pepper spray in the eyes of people who were already in custody under restraint, throwing tear gas canisters into first aid station tents, and so on.
Do we really want these thugs keeping dossiers on every aspect of our lives?
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: Paul_C on Oct 24, 2009 3:00 AM
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"Thursday, May 24, 1990, is fresh in my memory. Shortly after noon, a pipe bomb exploded in Earth First! activist Judi Bari’s car as she drove through Oakland, California, with Darryl Cherney. They were organizing for Redwood Summer: a season-long campaign modeled after the 1960s civil rights campaign Mississippi Freedom Summer. We hoped to build a resistance that could stand up to the corporate timber beast and rising animosity toward forest activists.
Everything changed the moment the bomb went off. The explosion nearly killed Judi, leaving her disabled for the rest of her life. The time-delayed, motion-triggered, nail-studded bomb was meant to kill her. Within minutes of the explosion, the FBI and Oakland Police Department (OPD) were on the scene, branding Judi and Darryl as terrorists and Earth First! as a known terrorist organization. Within hours and in defiance of all evidence, the cops arrested Judi and Darryl, claiming they were knowingly transporting the bomb.
The bombing followed months of COINTELPRO-style [the FBI’s counterintelligence program] disruption of Earth First! organizing efforts: phony press releases calling for violence; fake terrorism manuals; false media stories; continuous death threats, harassment and surveillance. Even if the FBI had nothing to do with promulgating the threats, slander and violence, they certainly treated what should have been seen as solid leads in the bombing with cavalier indifference, if not a hostile cover-up."
The full story can be read here:
Earth First! Takes the FBI to Court
Earth First! won the civil lawsuit and the federal jury awarded the plaintiffs $4.4 million in compensation.
The federal government fought for 11 years to keep the case from going to trial.
peace,
Paul
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Murray: CIA used Uzbek torture to create false intelligence; support for regime continues
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Posted by: Makaainana on Oct 24, 2009 9:53 AM
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He has failed us in Torture.
He has failed us in the wars.
He has failed us in health, and is only being saved by a few Congress people that have kept the public option alive. He will then ride their coattails and claim success.
He has failed in creating jobs to end the economic problems of the middle class.
He talks great. His actions don't back it up.
What a shame. He could have been a great President. Instead he going to be a good politician.
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Oct 24, 2009 10:11 AM
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 24, 2009 6:34 PM
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When it Came To Cooking People in Pots...
We Drew The Line...
We Said NO You Can Not Cook Human Beings in Pots And Eat Them
But The Americans said Why Not?
We Can Outsource It To Uzbekistan
And Put The Protein Into McDonalds Beef Burgers...
Craig Murray Said No
That is Not Acceptable
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/
Tony
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Oct 25, 2009 12:39 AM
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Ian
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Oct 25, 2009 3:14 AM
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Would all of you who voted for The Worst Democrat Ever™ stop posting articles and pontificating about politics?
You seem disturbingly unaware that you have just proven yourself to be complete screw-ups. Your opinions on politics are not worth a turd.
Hello, Keith Olbermann. Hello, BuzzFlash.
Hey there, everyone at HuffPo...
Could y'all shut the f*ck up and listen to those of us who saw through Obama from the get-go? The only thing you should be saying is why we should listen to anything you say.
Wingnut Threat Level
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Posted by: Frank J. Burris on Oct 25, 2009 10:57 AM
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Posted by: oregoncharles on Oct 25, 2009 1:02 PM
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David Swanson at davidswanson.org:
"Why is it that every time we elect "peace" candidates we defund the peace movement, stop calling for an end to wars, and limit our demands exclusively to opposing war escalations? "
He doesn't answer that question, but it's pretty obvious: because we keep on voting for non-peace candidates of an imperial party, the Democrats. Well, I don't, but far too many of us do. The Democratic Party's real job in the duopoly has become obvious: co-opting and derailing any movement for peace or social justice. I'm beginning to wonder how many times they'll pull this scam before masses of people catch on.
There IS a party with principles of peace, sustainability, and social and economic justice: the Green Party, www.gp.org.
I'm really wondering when the left in this country will "grow a spine" and start voting its principles and self-interest, instead of its fears. The consequences of gutless voting are now clear enough.
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Posted by: leonardfeingold on Oct 25, 2009 1:08 PM
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So how does one take those that post here as sane. IF we are a police state then we need a new vocabulary to desribe the examples I gave above.
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Oct 25, 2009 2:17 PM
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“Real toughness” from faux left so-called progressive magazines such as “the Nation” and AlterNOT? I think not. The place for “Real toughness” would be a real 9/11 investigation followed by real reform.
The 9/11 “war on terror” farce is built on 1000 LIES according to the Center for Public Integrity.
We are supposed to believe the 9/11 incident that started the zombie genocide world-wide killing fields is not a LIE?
Patriots Question 9/11
Osama Bin Laden denied any involvement. 9/11 Commissioner Senator Max Cleland called the official 9/11 investigation “a scam” and “national scandal” . FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds proved the U.S. government knew attacks were inbound months in advance .
That’s the tip of the cesspool.
A vastly dirty 9/11 event should have brought down the corrupt excuse for our Fascist government days after it happened. Instead we have an even more powerful Fascist state controlled by Wall Street organized corporate crime. One that seeks control over lives, and national property through endless profligate war, Wall Street looting and domestic spying on its own people.
That is NOT democracy. It is Fascism front and center.
"This is a scam. It's disgusting. America is being cheated."
Senator Max Cleland (on the 9/11 Commission “investigation” he resigned from. In an interview with Woff Blitzer on CNN 11/13/03)
"It is a national scandal. This [9/11] investigation is now compromised."
Senator Max Cleland (on the 9/11 Commission “investigation” 11/13/2003 Boston Globe)
“I saw papers that show the U.S. knew al-Qaeda would attack cities with airplanes… I gave [the 9-ll Commission] details of specific investigation files, the specific dates, specific target information, specific managers in charge of the investigation. This is not hearsay. These are things that are documented.”
MRS. SIBEL EDMONDS (whistleblower and former top-level FBI translator who gave closed session testimony to the 9-11 Commission. The Bush/Cheney administration silenced Edmonds with a court gag order citing the rarely used “state secrets privilege”. Interview UK Independent 4/2/04)
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Posted by: greenferret on Oct 25, 2009 9:49 PM
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If you don't want politicians from both corporate-sponsored parties to continue whittling down your civil rights, get active with the Green Party now.
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Posted by: JohnHKennedy Denver CO on Oct 27, 2009 7:58 AM
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Even though we have Federal Laws and a Constitution which prohibited the Bush-Cheney crimes, President Obama and our Congressional Democrats will avoid prosecution at all cost to our republic in the misguided hope of keeping power for a long time. They pretend to offer us great change if they don't have to prosecute,
but stopping presidential (and vice presidential) abuse of power is the one thing that will cause lasting change.
We must have the courage to make them enforce our Federal Laws, especially torture, and prosecute.
Please
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Ask them to sign the petitions.
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