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Eight Years Is Long Enough: What You Can Do to End the War in Afghanistan
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Editor's Note: Pressure to end the occupation is coming directly from members of the Afghan govt. as well -- writing for the Women's Media Center, CODEPINK Founder Jodie Evans has returned from Afghanistan with a petition signed by Afghan leaders, including two female members of Afghanistan's parliament and President Hamid Karzai's sister-in-law. Check out Evans' article and add your name to the petition here.
Within a matter of months a majority of Americans have shifted from supporting to opposing the Afghanistan war as we approach the eighth anniversary of the start of the conflict. According to recent polls, a solid 57 percent of Americans now object to the military effort.
At the same time, Gen. Stanley McChrystal's request for additional troops to prosecute the war is being studied by the White House, which will soon make a decision that could define the Obama presidency, as The Nation's editorial laying out the case against escalation, notes.
Meanwhile, just like the administration, antiwar activists are reallocating their attention from Iraq towards Afghanistan, determined to preempt McChrystal's proposed troop surge. A broad coalition of groups is co-ordinating protests and demonstrations for the coming weeks, hoping to emulate the successes of the Vietnam protests in ways that the anti-Iraq war movement never managed. There will be vigils, rallies, memorials, teach-ins, film festivals, demonstrations, direct action and marches. The activities will range from a few individuals to events where many thousands of people are expected to turn up.
The activist upsurge is nicely detailed in an article in last week's UK Observer, which also argues that "...the Obama administration does not appear to have much fear of the doveish wing of the broad liberal coalition that put Obama into the White House."
That needs to change. Here are some ways you can help:
See the Nation's list, Ten Things You Can Do to Oppose War in Afghanistan by Z.P. Heller.
And, Ten More Things You Can Do to Oppose War in Afghanistan by Tom Hayden.
If you're a student, join the Campus Antiwar Network and hold teach-ins, debates, talks, demonstrations and walkouts on college campuses across the country.
Sponsor one of the more than 830 pairs of empty boots making up the Eyes Wide Open Exhibit, a memorial to American soldiers killed in the war, which is being organized by the American Friends Service Committee and Military Families Speak Out for this coming weekend in Washington, DC. You can also offer to volunteer either at the memorial in DC or with the preparation in Baltimore on Friday.
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» RE: Get your facts right! US has been committing crimes in Afghanistan since 1979
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Posted by: popham on Oct 8, 2009 4:58 AM
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Siberia, through Afghanistan to Pakistani ports and on to the Arabian Sea and the Indian Ocean.From there to the hungry-for-oil far east.
We just contacted a local talk radio station that was discussing Adghanistan. They mocked
our above reason, because we described the
situation as diabolical, based on the fact that
the military/indudtrial complex is sacrificing
young American lives for future oil profits.
They will eventually see the truth.
Just do the research. This pipeline is our
purpose for hegemony in a corrupt and ungrateful country.
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Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Oct 8, 2009 6:30 AM
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We could just move all troops from Iraq to Afghanistan - but then, who would defend the oil?
Of course, the media corporations have also been bought off by advertisers or dictated to by shareholders on what the correct editorial attitude should be...
It's the robber baron era - but don't count on the corporate or non-profit American press to cover this - they're all owned by the same set of crooks.
P.S. There was a big car bombing in Fallujah the other day - bet you didn't see any mention of that on the propaganda, did you?
Let's stop calling it "news" and start calling it "propaganda."
As in, "Did you watch the propaganda last night?"
Or, "Do you prefer to get your propaganda in the morning or in the evening?"
Or, "Which is your favorite propaganda outlet?"
Propaganda Nation Lives! Walks! Talks!
Goebbels would be awestruck, wouldn't he?
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» RE: There's still a war in Iraq...
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» RE: There's still a war in Iraq...
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Posted by: tomu4ia on Oct 8, 2009 6:36 AM
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If friends of my neighbor's kids threw poison over my fence into my yard, what would I "win" by occupying my neighbor's house and trying to punish his kids physically? Would those kids, my neighbor, my neighbor's friends and my neighbor's friend's friend's sit idly by and welcome my defecating in the neighbor's house?
TAKE IT TO THE BANK that at some dismal future date, we will watch the last helicopter lift off from the roof of the American embassy in Kabul with our tail but no "win" between our legs. Between now and then, for what are our soldiers and diminishing wealth being sacrificed.
"Hope" certainly has not emerged from the shadows. Neither will truth.
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Oct 8, 2009 7:29 AM
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Posted by: greenferret on Oct 8, 2009 11:55 AM
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Then the bill will be sent to committee, and then back to the House and Senate for final passage.
There is still a short window of opportunity to stop this wasteful military madness.
Tell your members of Congress to vote "NO" on the 2010 defense appropriations bill.
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Posted by: leonardfeingold on Oct 8, 2009 12:38 PM
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And now the same people--most who post here and the Nation are at it again. All the arguments are emotional or conspracy types; none engage in rational thinking. OF course, one could oppose our activities but nothing posted here shows any rational discussion.
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» YOu can always tell the comments of an ignorant American fool;
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Posted by: tokerdesigner on Oct 8, 2009 4:55 PM
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2. The other huge Afghan issue being unemployment, the USA could import several hundred thousand, especially young workers, including mothers with their young children, from Afghanistan to help abate biofuels in western US drought zones where colossal billion dollar fires have been threatening the solvency of California etc. The savings from getting bushfire (oops sorry, wildfire) under control would justify the taxpayer giving some honorary figure, like $5 an hour, to these workers that they can send home to the family. (The best of the deadwood would replace live-cut lumber, plastics etc. in manufactured products, thus protecting forest in more ways than one.)
Halliburton and other famous and beloved organizations can supply on-site housing (cleaned FEMA trailers etc.), catering, internet access, language classes (EngSpanPortFrench), medical staffing, daycare and other relevant services. The foreign workers would labor alongside Americans (unemployed, ex-offender, interns, graduate students etc.). By treaty with Australia, Brazil, Chile etc. this program can have a seasonal "Hemigration" feature. Each hemester would earn credits toward education, citizenship and other rewards for participants.
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Posted by: Newstime on Oct 10, 2009 8:35 PM
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E-mail recipient's own comments:
Since you say that you crave positive and cheery thoughts, but not specifically free, unfettered and honest discussion, please forgive the writer if these questions cause you the slightest discomfort: Have you figured how much you yourself are paying in taxes to finance the war? Do you think that just about covers the cost? If not, how much of a tax increase would you and your associates be willing to pay to fully cover the cost on your own? Should the U.S. government, instead, just levy a surtax on people who want American troops operating there and how much should the surtax amount to?
Or do you think it's easier to favor military operations there just as long as the government borrows to pay for the war and passes the bill to future generations? And, also for the sake of open, unfettered and free debate, how many more billions of other people's money are you and your associates prepared to spend before Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network are defeated there? Or is the Taliban a convenient substitute and excuse for prolonging the war in Afghanistan?
And since you say the "media" is now attacking the Afghanistan War, you certainly don't mean, do you, that Sean Hannity and his associates, whose messages are broadcast on television and on hundreds of radio stations across the country, are now attacking that war? He and his associates are the dominating media presence in this country, if anyone is "the media."
Charles H. Savage/Editorial Columnist
Continental Features/
Continental News Service, Inc.
--- On Sun, 8/9/09, Danny Gonzalez - Move America Forward wrote:
From: Danny Gonzalez(Director of Communications) - Move America Forward
Subject: Media Now Attacking Afghanistan War
To: continentalnewsservice
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 8:07 AM
The former U.S. Senate candidate, Howard Kaloogian is listed in this entry from the organization's Board of Directors. The humorist in this writer could not resist reproducing the entry as it appears on
their Website:
The Honorable Howard Kaloogian ? Founder [The question mark appears on their Website]
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Posted by: popham on Oct 8, 2009 4:58 AM
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Siberia, through Afghanistan to Pakistani ports and on to the Arabian Sea and the Indian Ocean.From there to the hungry-for-oil far east.
We just contacted a local talk radio station that was discussing Adghanistan. They mocked
our above reason, because we described the
situation as diabolical, based on the fact that
the military/indudtrial complex is sacrificing
young American lives for future oil profits.
They will eventually see the truth.
Just do the research. This pipeline is our
purpose for hegemony in a corrupt and ungrateful country.
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Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Oct 8, 2009 6:30 AM
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We could just move all troops from Iraq to Afghanistan - but then, who would defend the oil?
Of course, the media corporations have also been bought off by advertisers or dictated to by shareholders on what the correct editorial attitude should be...
It's the robber baron era - but don't count on the corporate or non-profit American press to cover this - they're all owned by the same set of crooks.
P.S. There was a big car bombing in Fallujah the other day - bet you didn't see any mention of that on the propaganda, did you?
Let's stop calling it "news" and start calling it "propaganda."
As in, "Did you watch the propaganda last night?"
Or, "Do you prefer to get your propaganda in the morning or in the evening?"
Or, "Which is your favorite propaganda outlet?"
Propaganda Nation Lives! Walks! Talks!
Goebbels would be awestruck, wouldn't he?
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» RE: There's still a war in Iraq...
Posted by: tony_opmoc
» RE: There's still a war in Iraq...
Posted by: grokagain
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Posted by: tomu4ia on Oct 8, 2009 6:36 AM
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If friends of my neighbor's kids threw poison over my fence into my yard, what would I "win" by occupying my neighbor's house and trying to punish his kids physically? Would those kids, my neighbor, my neighbor's friends and my neighbor's friend's friend's sit idly by and welcome my defecating in the neighbor's house?
TAKE IT TO THE BANK that at some dismal future date, we will watch the last helicopter lift off from the roof of the American embassy in Kabul with our tail but no "win" between our legs. Between now and then, for what are our soldiers and diminishing wealth being sacrificed.
"Hope" certainly has not emerged from the shadows. Neither will truth.
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Oct 8, 2009 7:29 AM
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» "Change" was just an illusion. He always favored the status quo.
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Posted by: greenferret on Oct 8, 2009 11:55 AM
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Then the bill will be sent to committee, and then back to the House and Senate for final passage.
There is still a short window of opportunity to stop this wasteful military madness.
Tell your members of Congress to vote "NO" on the 2010 defense appropriations bill.
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Posted by: melpol on Oct 8, 2009 12:29 PM
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Posted by: leonardfeingold on Oct 8, 2009 12:38 PM
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And now the same people--most who post here and the Nation are at it again. All the arguments are emotional or conspracy types; none engage in rational thinking. OF course, one could oppose our activities but nothing posted here shows any rational discussion.
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» Okay, You Want Rational?
Posted by: armorypk
» YOu can always tell the comments of an ignorant American fool;
Posted by: leafsong1
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Posted by: tokerdesigner on Oct 8, 2009 4:55 PM
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2. The other huge Afghan issue being unemployment, the USA could import several hundred thousand, especially young workers, including mothers with their young children, from Afghanistan to help abate biofuels in western US drought zones where colossal billion dollar fires have been threatening the solvency of California etc. The savings from getting bushfire (oops sorry, wildfire) under control would justify the taxpayer giving some honorary figure, like $5 an hour, to these workers that they can send home to the family. (The best of the deadwood would replace live-cut lumber, plastics etc. in manufactured products, thus protecting forest in more ways than one.)
Halliburton and other famous and beloved organizations can supply on-site housing (cleaned FEMA trailers etc.), catering, internet access, language classes (EngSpanPortFrench), medical staffing, daycare and other relevant services. The foreign workers would labor alongside Americans (unemployed, ex-offender, interns, graduate students etc.). By treaty with Australia, Brazil, Chile etc. this program can have a seasonal "Hemigration" feature. Each hemester would earn credits toward education, citizenship and other rewards for participants.
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Posted by: Newstime on Oct 10, 2009 8:35 PM
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E-mail recipient's own comments:
Since you say that you crave positive and cheery thoughts, but not specifically free, unfettered and honest discussion, please forgive the writer if these questions cause you the slightest discomfort: Have you figured how much you yourself are paying in taxes to finance the war? Do you think that just about covers the cost? If not, how much of a tax increase would you and your associates be willing to pay to fully cover the cost on your own? Should the U.S. government, instead, just levy a surtax on people who want American troops operating there and how much should the surtax amount to?
Or do you think it's easier to favor military operations there just as long as the government borrows to pay for the war and passes the bill to future generations? And, also for the sake of open, unfettered and free debate, how many more billions of other people's money are you and your associates prepared to spend before Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network are defeated there? Or is the Taliban a convenient substitute and excuse for prolonging the war in Afghanistan?
And since you say the "media" is now attacking the Afghanistan War, you certainly don't mean, do you, that Sean Hannity and his associates, whose messages are broadcast on television and on hundreds of radio stations across the country, are now attacking that war? He and his associates are the dominating media presence in this country, if anyone is "the media."
Charles H. Savage/Editorial Columnist
Continental Features/
Continental News Service, Inc.
--- On Sun, 8/9/09, Danny Gonzalez - Move America Forward wrote:
From: Danny Gonzalez(Director of Communications) - Move America Forward
Subject: Media Now Attacking Afghanistan War
To: continentalnewsservice
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 8:07 AM
The former U.S. Senate candidate, Howard Kaloogian is listed in this entry from the organization's Board of Directors. The humorist in this writer could not resist reproducing the entry as it appears on
their Website:
The Honorable Howard Kaloogian ? Founder [The question mark appears on their Website]
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