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Limbaugh's Racist Shocker: "We Need Segregated Buses"
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In a remark extraordinary even by the standards of conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh, the right-wing radio heavyweight declared on his program Wednesday that the United States needed to return to racially segregated buses.
Referring to an incident in which a white student was beaten by black students on a bus, Limbaugh said: “I think the guy’s wrong. I think not only it was racism, it was justifiable racism. I mean, that’s the lesson we’re being taught here today. Kid shouldn’t have been on the bus anyway. We need segregated buses — it was invading space and stuff. This is Obama’s America.”
A full transcript of Limbaugh’s comments on his radio show is available at MediaMatters.org.
Limbaugh’s comments came after a called complained to say that local law enforcement said the attack probably wasn’t racially motivated. The incident had been hyped by the conservative Drudge Report, which posted a video of the fracas.
“Police initially said the beating of the white student by two black students appeared to be racially motivated,” the Associated Press wrote. “But police on Tuesday backed away from that.”
That didn’t stop Limbaugh from making his comments Wednesday.
“In Obama’s America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, ‘Yay, right on, right on, right on, right on,” Limbaugh also said. “I wonder if Obama’s going to come to come to the defense of the assailants the way he did his friend Skip Gates up there at Harvard.”
“White Americans are racists who have created what they call free markets that really just enslave the rest of America and her trading partners,” Limbaugh also mocked. “I mean, it was white Americans that ran off Van Jones. No, look, let’s just follow Eric Holder’s advice and not be cowards about all this. Let’s have an open conversation, an honest conversation about all of our typical white grandmothers. You had one, I had one. Obama had one. They’re racists just like our students are. ACORN — hey, nothing but racism fueling the pursuit of ACORN.”
Limbaugh also suggested that racism itself was acceptable.
“If homosexuality being inborn is what makes it acceptable, why does racism being inborn not make racism acceptable?” the talk show host asked. “I’m sorry — I mean, this is the way my mind works. But apparently now we don’t choose racism, we just are racists. We are born that way. We don’t choose it. So shouldn’t it be acceptable, excuse — this is according to the way the left thinks about things.”
The second set of comments occur in the audio clip below.
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Posted by: Crazy H on Sep 17, 2009 11:12 AM
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» WHAT idea, Rush?
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» RE: Exactly!
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» RE: xactly!
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» Limbaugh Crosses the Line -- It's Time to File a Complaint With the FCC!
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» RE: Good idea, Rush!
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» Shock Jocks!
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Posted by: inprov73 on Sep 17, 2009 11:49 AM
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And why doesn't being born a terrorist make terrorism acceptable?
And why doesn't being born a thief make thievery acceptable?
And why doesn't being born a fat, ignorant, scumbag talk show host make fat, ignorant, scumbag talk show hosts acceptable?
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» RE: Acceptability
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» And why doesn't being born a thief make thievery acceptable?
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» RE: Very true point
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 17, 2009 12:04 PM
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It is time for all people of good conscious that are tired of hearing these yahoos inciting unreasoned, lying, contemptible behavior to take a stand and boycott the sponsors immediately!!!
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» RE: Boycott NOW!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: Wendiego on Sep 17, 2009 12:07 PM
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» RE: And what of the mixed race?
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» RE: And what of the mixed race?
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» RE: And what of the mixed race? This is how the program goes---
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» RE: And what of the mixed race?
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» Buses, we won't pay for no buses, but, I expect a ride to my riot!
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Posted by: 4America on Sep 17, 2009 12:55 PM
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But is anyone surprised. It seems racism in this nation has gotten worse, not better in the past year. It might be because everyone uses it at every opportunity to the point that people dismiss it.
The beating described almost surely was racism just as 4 whites beating a black would be racially motivated – no big surprise.
So can't the problem of worsening racism be addressed instead of "Rush made another outrageous comment".
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» RE: Thats entertainment
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Posted by: bonapartist on Sep 17, 2009 1:18 PM
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Two, Limbaugh caters to the lowest common denominator and he knows hicks will like it. He also knows those that detest hicks will pay attention thus putting him in the spotlight.
Hey Rush, don't forget to rehabilitate the Third Reich soon.
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Posted by: Ghoulman on Sep 17, 2009 1:51 PM
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Wait, at the end there he twists around and says that's how the LEFT thinks?
I think it's Rush and FOX and the rest (I'm looking at you Pat Buchanan) that want to have their racist cantre accepted. Why would anyone accept two boys beating another on a bus? Well, seems Rush thinks the Left (whoever they are) do. But that's silly. Yet Rush wants it to be Ok to bring back Jim Crow race politics.
Well, they are at it again. Twisting meaning and words. After all, Rush Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs, O'Reilly, Beck, and many others in mainstream media have used overtly racist tropes and inference for years now and they are thrilled to have a black President to flog at. Plays to their demographic, I suppose. To go after the Left as racist is just how they deflect from their own bigoted rhetoric. They say, 'I know you are, but what am I?'
Remember, they have the last 8 years or more to defend against with their broadcasts of incredible bigotry towards Muslims. They fear to be called racist because they have so much to answer for!
That's right, the discourse in American mainstream media resembles a school yard fight. And none of them cared how the kid who got beat up felt.
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» RE: The amazing mind of Rush Limbaugh!
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» RE: The amazing mind of Rush Limbaugh!
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» RE: The amazing mind of Rush Limbaugh!
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Posted by: Stupidscript on Sep 17, 2009 2:50 PM
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Posted by: Jeanne on Sep 17, 2009 2:59 PM
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Posted by: RumbleFish on Sep 17, 2009 3:21 PM
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My guess is that one day he'll be found OD'd (on Oxycontin), on the floor of some seedy bath house...a ball gag in his mouth, and a giant black dildo up his arse.
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» OK, now that creeps me out a tad...
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Posted by: jareilly on Sep 17, 2009 4:08 PM
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A sane society would continue to tolerate Limbaugh, but subject his tedious rants to withering, if somewhat understated ridicule. It's not that hard to put a weasel in his place.
Instead we have the spectacle of the Democratic establishment screaming, "INCOMING!!!!" and diving under something or somebody (i.e., Van Jones) everytime Limbaugh emits another little cloud of noisome swamp gas.
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Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Sep 17, 2009 4:46 PM
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» RE: he's right...we need segregated buses...
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» Put him on a bus loaded with inner-city gang members...
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Posted by: cryptpyrc on Sep 17, 2009 5:23 PM
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WOW! I cannot believe someone would actually say this, let alone somebody who is allowed to broadcast these opinions through the airwaves..
that's all I can say about that, I'm in disbelief.
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Posted by: Groovy Vegan on Sep 17, 2009 6:35 PM
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» RE: What about city busses? Does he want black people to sit in back?
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Sep 17, 2009 6:36 PM
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#@!
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» RE: Stem cells can be harvested from human fat now.
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» This raises the nightmarish spectre of Limbaugh cloning!
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» Ew!
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» I'd hate to see anything grown from that poor excuse for a man.
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Posted by: LeonBNJ on Sep 17, 2009 6:40 PM
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» RE: Why isn't Rush chased off the air like Imus, et al.?
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» RE: Why isn't Rush chased off the air like Imus, et al.?
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» RE: Why isn't Rush chased off the air like Imus, et al.?
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» RE: Why isn't Rush chased off the air like Imus, et al.?
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Posted by: debs99 on Sep 17, 2009 7:20 PM
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This is his listening audience.
People like my lazy ass Rush fan brother in law who takes an hour-shower, leaves for their self-employment at 10pm, takes an hour off for lunch (to listen to Rush while sucking on a beer), and come home at 3:00pm, while living off their hard-working wife and decrying those lazy n*****s --a racial group he has never even met, by the way
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Posted by: MeyravLevine on Sep 17, 2009 7:34 PM
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On economy, his policies are pretty much Bush's policies i.e. middle-class and the poor get fucked while Wall St gets bailed out.
On foreign policy, Obama is getting deeper in the AF-PAK Vietnam. And the latest missile defense BS to save Europe from the bogeyman Iran. WTF??
On domestic issue, Obama is letting the Corporate owned whore Baucus drafting the health care reform - more like heath care deceit and nothing but forcing people to buy insurance premiums that don't provide adequate coverage.
ACORN, Van Jones et al are being scapegoated but no investigation into Blackwater and other corporate crimes.
Obama and Dems are acting as if we lost 2008 election in a landslide.
Oh well - FUCK YOU Obama and the rest of the Congressional democrats.
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» RE: If Obama & the Dems were doing their job Limbaugh et al would be marginalized
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» RE: If Obama & the Dems were doing their job Limbaugh et al would be marginalized
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Posted by: MOTELCALIFORNIA on Sep 17, 2009 8:31 PM
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Since there are far too many people who can't understand that most people speak opinions and not science, they keep listening to Rush because they feel he has it "all figured out." We don't live in that kind of world any more. This parasite is MAKING MONEY because for too many decades now this is what the world calls and will accept as success, i.e making money.
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Posted by: goodyweaver on Sep 17, 2009 9:25 PM
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Problem is, it doesn't matter if they're wrong - millions and millions and millions of people in this country are motivated by their words. Millions and millions of people in this country actually believe that these are the people that "get it." What I can't figure out is whether these radio goons actually have some deal with politicians that they'll make sure social progress never really happens in this country, or if they truly believe the tripe they spew.
As I said in my title, their stupidity might be funny if it weren't so incredibly destructive in this society. The result of millions of citizens maintaining a Limbaugh-Beck-Hannityesque system of beliefs is a society where at least 15% of children live in food insecure households. A society where it is not unusual for an individual to work 50-60 hours for next to nothing and still have no job security, no real benefits, no affordable health care, and no hope for a better future. A society where a huge percentage of the poor and minorities are locked in a prison industrial complex that has systematically eliminated all programs geared toward rehabilitation. A society where children are constantly marketed products that will make them obese, mentally ill, violent, and sick (because it's "profitable," and profit=freedom). A society where people can comfortably refer to children burned alive so that US oil companies can secure resources "collateral damage," and then turn to a 14 year old rape victim entering Planned Parenthood and scream "Murderer!" A society where millions defend the "right" of chemical companies to poison our water, our air, our soil, and our bodies - without telling us, because that would cut profit. A society where our collective future is determined by corporations intent on funnelling as much wealth to as few individuals as possible, ruling elite "lawmakers" who collect bribes and pass legislation granting said corporations the same rights as human beings, and a warmongering military industrial complex that rakes in trillions in profit maintaining chaos and disorder in the third world, slaughtering innocent human beings by the millions, and decimating our environment with weapons tests and oil spills.
So you see, sure, Rush is a blowhard. He's a goon. He's full of shit, and we all know it. But he and his ilk are destroying our future. They're guaranteeing another 100 years of this devastating culture grinding its boot into the throat of humanity. It may very well, in fact, mean the end of humanity altogether in the end, because it is these conservatives who seem to be so completely insane that they cannot even imagine that they (and what superhumans they are, afterall) could possibly need an intact ecosystem to survive. Because on top of everything else, they actually believe that some on-high deity is going to fly down out of the sky right before the shit REALLY hits the fan and whisk them away to paradise (which they deserve, after all, for pointing out that god hates fags, blacks are just ingrates, and jesus christ loves capitalism).
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» They are doing it for the money and fame
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» RE: They are doing it for the money and fame
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» RE: Absurdly hilarious, if it weren't so socially destructive
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» RE: Absurdly hilarious, if it weren't so socially destructive
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» Damn Great article
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» OK... I Get It... So Where....
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Posted by: YogiBear on Sep 17, 2009 9:57 PM
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Where did he grow up? Where I grew up, kids of either race did that whenever there was a spat. I remember hearing this chant watching a black-white fight: "Fight, fight, black and white, if the white don't win, we all jump in!"
One of the things I cherished about growing up was learning to use my mind to cast off such behavior. But some kids never do learn. They live their lives as if it's one big gang fight.
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Posted by: marjani on Sep 18, 2009 12:18 AM
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Posted by: ItsThePainStupid on Sep 18, 2009 12:18 AM
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Can we have some real news?
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» RE: Who Cares?
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Posted by: jmr22 on Sep 18, 2009 12:33 AM
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Posted by: Fempatriot on Sep 18, 2009 1:06 AM
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Rush was being sarcastic--but for once I agree with him. Just once. I doubt I'll ever agree with him again on anything.
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» RE: Why is it that when white kids beat up a black kid
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» RE: Why is it that when white kids beat up a black kid
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» I think I can explain that and it all has to do with dropping class and going too "social".
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» RE: it was NOT racist, it was bullying PERIOD!
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Posted by: Lady_L on Sep 18, 2009 2:50 AM
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According to the Anti-Defamation League website, the journal "promotes pseudoscientific studies that attempt to demonstrate the intellectual and cultural superiority of whites and publishes articles on the supposed decline of American society because of integrationist social policies."
Apparently, it avoids blatant bigoted remarks and crudeness, which I think makes it more insidious.
Nice try, Antichrist, but I don't buy your "source."
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» and what, exactly, is your point?
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» RE: Being aware. That’s the point.
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» RE: Being aware. That’s the point.
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» RE: Being aware. That’s the point.
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» I don't think that was your point at all.
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» RE: Being aware. That’s the point.
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» RE: Being aware. That’s the point.
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» RE: and what, exactly, is your point?
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» RE: Oh puh-leeze!
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Posted by: goodyweaver on Sep 18, 2009 8:47 AM
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What your stats don't show is that minorities are far more likely to be victims of violence, that minorities are far more likely to live in impoverished inner cities where legitimate job opportunities are rare, that minorities are far more likely to be subjected to substandard (yet required) public "education" systems, have inferior health care, and live in households with food insecurity. Further, study after study has shown that systemic racism does exist in hiring, criminal justice, and education. Even further, minorities live in a culture that provides a mountain of imagery suggesting that they are less attractive, less intelligent, more violent, and less culturally important than whites. But of course, those facts are irrelevant, right? All that matters is crime stats?
So, let's look at that then. The vast majority of serial killers are white males. The vast majority of child rapists and killers are white males. The vast majority of child molesters are white males. So what, prey tell, does that say about white males? Probably nothing, right?
You know, finally, it's always amusing to see a member of the Euro-American culture - a culture which has arguably commited more violence, more genocide, and more oppression on this planet than any other culture or "race," try so desperately to imply that somehow it is minorities that are "naturally" violent. Give me a break.
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Posted by: mapsguy1955 on Sep 18, 2009 8:51 AM
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How about a little requirement to level the playing field against racism.. you know, jobs. Oh, that affects lower class WHITES as well... Maybe we shouldn't count them, since they are the ones most likely to agree with your caveman viewpoint.. You need voices, no matter if deductive reasoning is or isn't one of their skill sets. Your thoughts create a self fulfilling prophecy. YOU and YOUR beliefs are the problem.
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Sep 18, 2009 10:27 AM
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Posted by: Quannah on Sep 18, 2009 10:25 PM
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Posted by: adp3d on Sep 18, 2009 1:58 AM
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I hope people get all the to this comment and consider the possibility...
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» RE: I think Rush just came out of the closet...
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Posted by: philg25 on Sep 18, 2009 2:08 AM
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We have heard the conservatives make comparisons to Hitler and the Nazi regime. What I am beginning to see is the similarities between the Nazi propaganda machine and the Neo-Conservatives.
Limbaugh, Fox news, 9/12, etc. are using Orwellian tactics to muddle the issues with hate. Newspeak and jackboots are becoming the American Way and it sickens me.
Limbaugh needs to be put on the bus alright. Maybe he would respond to some of his own advice. Perhaps we should segregate Limbaugh and the rest from the human beings.
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Posted by: ProfBob on Sep 18, 2009 2:11 AM
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‘Power to’, on the other hand, takes work, effort, and often, education. If not education, at least the ability to reason. Neither the ‘power over’ beliefs nor the ‘power to’ abilities are the exclusive domains of liberals or conservatives. Barack Obama and Colin Powell both are ‘power to’ people—as were Jefferson, Einstein, Edison, and Mother Theresa—and as are Tom Brady, Dan Brown, Bill Gates and the Clintons.
For a much more insightful and complete approach to our psychological motivations I would suggest reading Book 6 of the popular free ebook series “In Search of Utopia” (http://andgulliverreturns.info) And a view of our ethical motivations Book 4 of the same series does an even better job. Rush of course would never read these because his thinking patterns are clearly based on a self centered value system and a ‘power over’ psychological motivation. His status among some similarly intellectually and ethically dwarfed followers affirms his power.
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Posted by: Rasplanet on Sep 18, 2009 2:16 AM
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Posted by: Matamillion on Sep 18, 2009 4:23 AM
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Seriously, we were at least a week without an article about what a mountebank he is. What took him so long? Summer vacation?
Turn Off
Tune Out
REJECT!
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Posted by: HelperMonkey on Sep 18, 2009 4:23 AM
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Hmm.
1) homosexuality has been shown to be an inborn trait and a naturally occurring phenomenon, not only in humans but in monkeys and other animals.
2) I am not aware of a study which proves the same of racism. In fact I'm pretty sure racism is taught.
And
1b) Homosexuality doesn't hurt anybody, but
2b) racism does.
The comparison is laughable. Consider the logically-equivalent statement:
“If being able to curl your tongue being inborn is what makes it acceptable, why does racism being inborn not make racism acceptable?”
I don't think homosexuality is acceptable because it's inborn, I think it's acceptable because it's what some people choose to do in their private lives that doesn't hurt anybody.
What a fuckknob.
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Posted by: Allstar Cookie on Sep 18, 2009 4:29 AM
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Just as his comments about the sports media coverage of Donavan McNabb, there was nothing racist about his latest remarks.
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Posted by: jrmart on Sep 18, 2009 4:59 AM
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that buys a lot of oxycodine Blame those that pay him that kind of money. And those that buy the products he sells. 45 Million
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Posted by: wardropper on Sep 18, 2009 5:57 AM
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Just so long as the media fall over themselves trying to find out what Mussolini's opinion is on the problems besetting Italy in the 1930s, parasites like Limbaugh will flourish.
It's up to you, America - the power to ignore him and make him obsolete is all yours.
Next time your local newspaper quotes the rat, complain to the editor.
Limbaugh and his fat mouth are not in the public interest, they are anti-American.
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Posted by: surfreality on Sep 18, 2009 6:04 AM
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It sounds like he's trying to justify his prejudices by calling them "nature"
Let's ask his sponsors if they agree that people are born racist.
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Posted by: wardropper on Sep 18, 2009 6:13 AM
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He deliberately dresses up his childish jealousies and bigotries in the pompous language and faked "gravitas" of an experienced senior citizen who has such wide experience of life and its inner workings that absolutely nobody knows more about anything at all than he does.
He's a spoiled and bitter child - nothing else.
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Posted by: peacelf on Sep 18, 2009 6:22 AM
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Posted by: ETSpoon on Sep 18, 2009 6:23 AM
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Remember the movie The Road Warrior (Mad Max 2)?" Here's the Wikipedia entry on the character The Toadie:...the gang crier who articulates his occupation with verbally inventive phrases. He is a plump, bespectacled man who masks his cruelty with a jolly facade. He wears a decorated mink stole as a hat and has many ornaments on his clothes. His behavior with Humungus and Wez marks him as a classic sycophant. Toadie takes pleasure in molesting helpless prisoners, but the gang has little respect for him.
Life does immitate art.
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Posted by: raginghormones on Sep 18, 2009 6:27 AM
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This is the world that Rush and his followers are stuck in. This is the world they want to go back to. This is the world view they have as an answer to everything. And this is the reason Conservatives are becoming increasingly irrelevant for today's world, because--in the end--they really have no answers.
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He was lampooning the idea. . . you Lefties are either idiots or liars!
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Posted by: Philip Newton on Sep 18, 2009 8:30 AM
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Observe how the big guy deftly weaves his racist "satire" into an advertisement for unfettered corporate aggression.
Reminds me of the fake cell phone ad:
"Of course, our cell phones don't give you -- 'cancer' unless by -- 'cancer' you mean... great service, at a low, low price."
Do not be deceived, brothers and sisters!
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Posted by: msamsswan on Sep 18, 2009 9:23 AM
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He has to get high to tolerate himself. I guess his parents are proud of their junkie son.LOL
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Posted by: ChicagoWay on Sep 18, 2009 11:55 AM
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And we can redistribute students while we redistribute their parents' wealth. I mean, we can just redistribute everything, just return the white students to their rightful place -- their own bus, with bars on the windows and armed guards. They're racists, they get what they deserve -- Newsweek magazine told us this, post-racial America. I mean, I wonder if Obama's going to come to the defense of the assailants the way he did his friend Skip Gates up there at Harvard. I mean, the assailants are presumed innocent due to the white racism we all know runs rampant in America. I mean, the drive-by media is ginning up all this criticism of Obama again today -- it's all based in racism, the criticism of Obama's health care plan or whatever. It's all based in racism.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 18, 2009 12:14 PM
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Give me a Break- what kid regardless of the demographics of their school has never seen a fight- on the Bus,In the Halls, In the Gym in the Schoolyard, at the Tree....?
Rush no doubt knows better than most that Fights between Kids happens, I'm betting he has a permanent scare on his ass crack (although much more difficult to see now- Yuk bad image, sorry).
Perahps that's why he also keeps his hair so short- less to swirl down the toilet. quicker Dry time too.
Almost makes you long for those days- the chance to give Rushy a Wedgey while dunking his head in the toilet.
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Posted by: bandofotters on Sep 18, 2009 12:23 PM
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You had me going, thinking that Rush was calling for segregated buses.
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Posted by: pg on Sep 18, 2009 1:17 PM
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This article links to "media matters" for a "full transcript" of Rush's comments.
The media matters site has a partial transcript that is copped up, why link there ?
Rush's site has the "full transcript" of his comments.
Regardless of what you think of him people should read the full transcript at his site then go off on him if you think he deserves it for the comments because you are being mislead regarding his comments reading the media matters partial transcript or just this article.
After reading this article I went to the media matters link first and then I went to his site and read his transcript for comparison. Two very different pictures emerged, it was pure sarcasm on the state of race relations today and I think most people who read the "full transcript" would agree with it.
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Posted by: rickiey on Sep 18, 2009 2:35 PM
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Cuz racism ISNT inborn. It is taught by parents.
No one has to teach a boy that he is sexually attracted to other boys. Take my word for it (or the word of anyone else who isn't heterosexual but grew up in a Christian household learning that they are an "abomination").
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Posted by: misencikjc on Sep 18, 2009 3:18 PM
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But from this short transcript, carefully read, I don't think Rush was explicitly calling for segregated buses. He was essentially making the idiotic 'reverse racism' argument, saying that the black kids who beat the white kid were beating him because the black kids thought the white kid was inferior...that in today's America blacks have assumed the 'master' role while whites are the inferiors. Rush puts words and thoughts to the black kids actions by claiming that the black kids must have been thinking 'this beat-down wouldn't have happened if you had been on your segregated inferior white bus.'
Its all very idiotic and quite typical of his rants. Furthermore its an extreme insult to the very real historical and continuing brutality against the black population in this country. It cheapens the historic injustice towards the black-American population just in the same way that comparisons of Obama to Hitler cheapens the horror of the holocaust.
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Posted by: Jayzer on Sep 18, 2009 4:29 PM
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The temptation is strong, but when I pause to think about it, I realize that there are already way too many people driving the wrong way in the NYC area and the roads are dangerous enough already.
How about segregated water fountains for stupid and meanspirited reactionary assholes? To the rest of us, they would look like (and function as) toilets.
Drink up, morons.
If you think me calling him a moron is too harsh, how else would you characterize someone who comments on a fight among kids on a bus that he really wasn't present for, and therefore can't possibly know the full story behind this particular piece of nastiness?
But, HEY: He's a "professional" blowhard and he just HAS to say something, even if what he chooses to say is akin to pouring gasoline onto a pile of smoldering rags.
Better he should drink long and deep from a commode and take his chances on E.coli like anyone else would. But for all I know, he would probably thrive on the stuff.
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Posted by: wisegalah on Sep 18, 2009 8:50 PM
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Listen to the man. He should be called to account for the destructive, hateful line he is pushing.
It is fine to have freedom of speech but as has been said many times any freedom comes with responsibilities. He plainly has no understanding of his responsibilities to the truth, intelligence or the American community.
Your constitution certainly ensures freedom of speech but that is not a licence to poliute the airwaves and the minds of the ignorant.
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Posted by: gabbyone on Sep 18, 2009 9:09 PM
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If you had listened to his entire segment, you would know he made it very clear in what he said that he didn't mean buses should be segregated. He tied it all in with people being called racist every time they disagree with the President.
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Posted by: blitzmesser on Sep 18, 2009 11:46 PM
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Wow! Why is he not locked up?
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Posted by: leonardfeingold on Sep 19, 2009 8:30 AM
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Background of the point:
1. In the DUke rape case, the first thing that progressives said it was racism and black girls don;t lie; only whites do, That was sub text.
2. Recently, Eric Holder dropped charges against black panthers who threatned violence at the polls. I saw no posts on Alternet on that.
3. Students who have black skin go to the head of the line re college admissions even tho their scores are low.
4. And in the case of medical schools those with black skin with lowest (1 sd or more lower than asians) get into medical school hence exculding asians and whites with very high scores. And worse, those blacks that graduate, a good portion have the lowest scores on licensing exams. And where to they end up: not treating obama, but poor blacks and poor whites.
None of the above is called racism in the MSM nor in the progressive press. Press and obama get excited about a trivial incident re the Gates affair; compare that to the duke rape case which MSM and progressives want to lynch figuratively speaking the white dudes.
And Rush is satirizing you guys; and what do you do; just like totalitarians, demonize Rush for pointing out the truth in a oafish way
One last thing in that famous RAce speech of Obama he cites his grandmother an an egs of racism because she accosted by some black guy and became nerveous about going on buses. Is it not interesting that instead of using his grandmother which I find inexcusable, he should have used Jesse Jackson who made the famous quote that when he hears foot steps behind him, he is relieved when turns around and sees a white face. How do you like those apples.
The upshot is that progressives and MSM are the true racists.
Many progressives and MSM remind of Stalin, Castro: They used the language of love of humanity as do progressives and then piled up gulags and murder of innocents in name of helping manking to a better life. And so with "racism" dripping from the lips of progressives at the drop of a hat, they copy the totalitarians in demonizing and dehumanizing people who don't agree. Rush has many black friends; of course conservative; what do you expect. He is the furtherest thing from a racist either in the sense of dehumanizing people because of color or denying them constitutional rights.
The progressives and MSM who were all for denying due process to duke guys exemplify racism; in that case pre judgement because the so called attackers were white. That is racism.
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Posted by: rosborne@weenet.com on Sep 19, 2009 11:49 AM
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Maybe I am misunderstanding some part of this discussion?
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Posted by: tongjm on Sep 19, 2009 12:00 PM
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But we don't have to keep buying products from the corporations who help keep him on the air. More than a dozen of Glenn Beck's advertisers withdrew support recently after pressure from the public about his similarly outrageous remarks.
Time to hold Limbaugh accountable as well.
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Posted by: weslen1 on Sep 19, 2009 12:12 PM
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Someone should examine his family tree.
I think he is AFRAID of black people because, either his "family" includes black genes OR were slave owners.
AND I think he is so AFRAID of homosexuals because HE IS HOMOSEXUAL HIMSELF and is TERRIFIED that, like his addiction to oxycontin, he will eventually be EXPOSED like so many of his Right Wing worshipers have been.
Why ELSE all his ranting about grabbing his ANKLES and bending OVER? That is a wide open OBSESSION for him.
Fantasy Land may be a very nice place to live. But it has one HUGE drawback. Reality always INTRUDES.
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Posted by: goodyweaver on Sep 19, 2009 12:48 PM
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No, I won't "cheer up" about the environment, nor will I "cheer up" about the terrible impact Limbaugh and his ilk have on our culture. The problem is simply too serious. Though there is certainly plenty to feel joyful about and which makes life beautiful and worth fighting for.
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And that’s not to say Rush ISN’T a racist nor that he WOULDN’T prefer segregated buses, just in case he ever rode one, but I don’t think that’s what he meant here. And we wouldn’t want to twist his words; he and Fox would never take liberals’ speech out of context.
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Posted by: CharlesRoland on Sep 20, 2009 3:20 AM
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It's so easy to predict exactly what most of the comments are going to sound like. I'll never understand people on the extreme left or the extreme right. Neither of you look at the REAL issues. It's so much easier to blame the messenger.
Also, as someone who can claim to have once been an anarchist I can tell you that FOX, as a network, is hardly as dangerous as most lefties seem to make it. Why don't you actually watch the network for a few days and sample some shows. Or is it easier to pick out a couple of shows that are on the opposite spectrum as your own beliefs and judge the entire network. Because it seems to me that they tell more of the truth (even under Bush) than the even more propagandist BIG MEDIA does.
Again, I AM NO REPUBLICAN OR CONSERVATIVE. I just believe in the constitution. I can't stand people who crucify talk show hosts but avoid the real issue.
We should be talking about the white guy and what he thinks and the black perpitrators and what they think.
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Dumb MFs like Rush have to teach it to their kids.
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» WHAT idea, Rush?
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Posted by: inprov73 on Sep 17, 2009 11:49 AM
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And why doesn't being born a terrorist make terrorism acceptable?
And why doesn't being born a thief make thievery acceptable?
And why doesn't being born a fat, ignorant, scumbag talk show host make fat, ignorant, scumbag talk show hosts acceptable?
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» And why doesn't being born a thief make thievery acceptable?
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 17, 2009 12:04 PM
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It is time for all people of good conscious that are tired of hearing these yahoos inciting unreasoned, lying, contemptible behavior to take a stand and boycott the sponsors immediately!!!
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Posted by: 4America on Sep 17, 2009 12:55 PM
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But is anyone surprised. It seems racism in this nation has gotten worse, not better in the past year. It might be because everyone uses it at every opportunity to the point that people dismiss it.
The beating described almost surely was racism just as 4 whites beating a black would be racially motivated – no big surprise.
So can't the problem of worsening racism be addressed instead of "Rush made another outrageous comment".
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Posted by: bonapartist on Sep 17, 2009 1:18 PM
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Two, Limbaugh caters to the lowest common denominator and he knows hicks will like it. He also knows those that detest hicks will pay attention thus putting him in the spotlight.
Hey Rush, don't forget to rehabilitate the Third Reich soon.
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Posted by: Ghoulman on Sep 17, 2009 1:51 PM
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Wait, at the end there he twists around and says that's how the LEFT thinks?
I think it's Rush and FOX and the rest (I'm looking at you Pat Buchanan) that want to have their racist cantre accepted. Why would anyone accept two boys beating another on a bus? Well, seems Rush thinks the Left (whoever they are) do. But that's silly. Yet Rush wants it to be Ok to bring back Jim Crow race politics.
Well, they are at it again. Twisting meaning and words. After all, Rush Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs, O'Reilly, Beck, and many others in mainstream media have used overtly racist tropes and inference for years now and they are thrilled to have a black President to flog at. Plays to their demographic, I suppose. To go after the Left as racist is just how they deflect from their own bigoted rhetoric. They say, 'I know you are, but what am I?'
Remember, they have the last 8 years or more to defend against with their broadcasts of incredible bigotry towards Muslims. They fear to be called racist because they have so much to answer for!
That's right, the discourse in American mainstream media resembles a school yard fight. And none of them cared how the kid who got beat up felt.
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Posted by: Jeanne on Sep 17, 2009 2:59 PM
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Posted by: RumbleFish on Sep 17, 2009 3:21 PM
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My guess is that one day he'll be found OD'd (on Oxycontin), on the floor of some seedy bath house...a ball gag in his mouth, and a giant black dildo up his arse.
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» OK, now that creeps me out a tad...
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Posted by: jareilly on Sep 17, 2009 4:08 PM
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A sane society would continue to tolerate Limbaugh, but subject his tedious rants to withering, if somewhat understated ridicule. It's not that hard to put a weasel in his place.
Instead we have the spectacle of the Democratic establishment screaming, "INCOMING!!!!" and diving under something or somebody (i.e., Van Jones) everytime Limbaugh emits another little cloud of noisome swamp gas.
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Posted by: cryptpyrc on Sep 17, 2009 5:23 PM
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WOW! I cannot believe someone would actually say this, let alone somebody who is allowed to broadcast these opinions through the airwaves..
that's all I can say about that, I'm in disbelief.
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Sep 17, 2009 6:36 PM
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#@!
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Posted by: debs99 on Sep 17, 2009 7:20 PM
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This is his listening audience.
People like my lazy ass Rush fan brother in law who takes an hour-shower, leaves for their self-employment at 10pm, takes an hour off for lunch (to listen to Rush while sucking on a beer), and come home at 3:00pm, while living off their hard-working wife and decrying those lazy n*****s --a racial group he has never even met, by the way
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Posted by: MeyravLevine on Sep 17, 2009 7:34 PM
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On economy, his policies are pretty much Bush's policies i.e. middle-class and the poor get fucked while Wall St gets bailed out.
On foreign policy, Obama is getting deeper in the AF-PAK Vietnam. And the latest missile defense BS to save Europe from the bogeyman Iran. WTF??
On domestic issue, Obama is letting the Corporate owned whore Baucus drafting the health care reform - more like heath care deceit and nothing but forcing people to buy insurance premiums that don't provide adequate coverage.
ACORN, Van Jones et al are being scapegoated but no investigation into Blackwater and other corporate crimes.
Obama and Dems are acting as if we lost 2008 election in a landslide.
Oh well - FUCK YOU Obama and the rest of the Congressional democrats.
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Posted by: MOTELCALIFORNIA on Sep 17, 2009 8:31 PM
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Since there are far too many people who can't understand that most people speak opinions and not science, they keep listening to Rush because they feel he has it "all figured out." We don't live in that kind of world any more. This parasite is MAKING MONEY because for too many decades now this is what the world calls and will accept as success, i.e making money.
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Posted by: goodyweaver on Sep 17, 2009 9:25 PM
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Problem is, it doesn't matter if they're wrong - millions and millions and millions of people in this country are motivated by their words. Millions and millions of people in this country actually believe that these are the people that "get it." What I can't figure out is whether these radio goons actually have some deal with politicians that they'll make sure social progress never really happens in this country, or if they truly believe the tripe they spew.
As I said in my title, their stupidity might be funny if it weren't so incredibly destructive in this society. The result of millions of citizens maintaining a Limbaugh-Beck-Hannityesque system of beliefs is a society where at least 15% of children live in food insecure households. A society where it is not unusual for an individual to work 50-60 hours for next to nothing and still have no job security, no real benefits, no affordable health care, and no hope for a better future. A society where a huge percentage of the poor and minorities are locked in a prison industrial complex that has systematically eliminated all programs geared toward rehabilitation. A society where children are constantly marketed products that will make them obese, mentally ill, violent, and sick (because it's "profitable," and profit=freedom). A society where people can comfortably refer to children burned alive so that US oil companies can secure resources "collateral damage," and then turn to a 14 year old rape victim entering Planned Parenthood and scream "Murderer!" A society where millions defend the "right" of chemical companies to poison our water, our air, our soil, and our bodies - without telling us, because that would cut profit. A society where our collective future is determined by corporations intent on funnelling as much wealth to as few individuals as possible, ruling elite "lawmakers" who collect bribes and pass legislation granting said corporations the same rights as human beings, and a warmongering military industrial complex that rakes in trillions in profit maintaining chaos and disorder in the third world, slaughtering innocent human beings by the millions, and decimating our environment with weapons tests and oil spills.
So you see, sure, Rush is a blowhard. He's a goon. He's full of shit, and we all know it. But he and his ilk are destroying our future. They're guaranteeing another 100 years of this devastating culture grinding its boot into the throat of humanity. It may very well, in fact, mean the end of humanity altogether in the end, because it is these conservatives who seem to be so completely insane that they cannot even imagine that they (and what superhumans they are, afterall) could possibly need an intact ecosystem to survive. Because on top of everything else, they actually believe that some on-high deity is going to fly down out of the sky right before the shit REALLY hits the fan and whisk them away to paradise (which they deserve, after all, for pointing out that god hates fags, blacks are just ingrates, and jesus christ loves capitalism).
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Posted by: YogiBear on Sep 17, 2009 9:57 PM
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Where did he grow up? Where I grew up, kids of either race did that whenever there was a spat. I remember hearing this chant watching a black-white fight: "Fight, fight, black and white, if the white don't win, we all jump in!"
One of the things I cherished about growing up was learning to use my mind to cast off such behavior. But some kids never do learn. They live their lives as if it's one big gang fight.
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Posted by: marjani on Sep 18, 2009 12:18 AM
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Posted by: ItsThePainStupid on Sep 18, 2009 12:18 AM
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Can we have some real news?
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Posted by: jmr22 on Sep 18, 2009 12:33 AM
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Posted by: Fempatriot on Sep 18, 2009 1:06 AM
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Rush was being sarcastic--but for once I agree with him. Just once. I doubt I'll ever agree with him again on anything.
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Posted by: Lady_L on Sep 18, 2009 2:50 AM
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According to the Anti-Defamation League website, the journal "promotes pseudoscientific studies that attempt to demonstrate the intellectual and cultural superiority of whites and publishes articles on the supposed decline of American society because of integrationist social policies."
Apparently, it avoids blatant bigoted remarks and crudeness, which I think makes it more insidious.
Nice try, Antichrist, but I don't buy your "source."
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» and what, exactly, is your point?
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Posted by: goodyweaver on Sep 18, 2009 8:47 AM
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What your stats don't show is that minorities are far more likely to be victims of violence, that minorities are far more likely to live in impoverished inner cities where legitimate job opportunities are rare, that minorities are far more likely to be subjected to substandard (yet required) public "education" systems, have inferior health care, and live in households with food insecurity. Further, study after study has shown that systemic racism does exist in hiring, criminal justice, and education. Even further, minorities live in a culture that provides a mountain of imagery suggesting that they are less attractive, less intelligent, more violent, and less culturally important than whites. But of course, those facts are irrelevant, right? All that matters is crime stats?
So, let's look at that then. The vast majority of serial killers are white males. The vast majority of child rapists and killers are white males. The vast majority of child molesters are white males. So what, prey tell, does that say about white males? Probably nothing, right?
You know, finally, it's always amusing to see a member of the Euro-American culture - a culture which has arguably commited more violence, more genocide, and more oppression on this planet than any other culture or "race," try so desperately to imply that somehow it is minorities that are "naturally" violent. Give me a break.
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Posted by: mapsguy1955 on Sep 18, 2009 8:51 AM
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How about a little requirement to level the playing field against racism.. you know, jobs. Oh, that affects lower class WHITES as well... Maybe we shouldn't count them, since they are the ones most likely to agree with your caveman viewpoint.. You need voices, no matter if deductive reasoning is or isn't one of their skill sets. Your thoughts create a self fulfilling prophecy. YOU and YOUR beliefs are the problem.
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Posted by: adp3d on Sep 18, 2009 1:58 AM
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I hope people get all the to this comment and consider the possibility...
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Posted by: philg25 on Sep 18, 2009 2:08 AM
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We have heard the conservatives make comparisons to Hitler and the Nazi regime. What I am beginning to see is the similarities between the Nazi propaganda machine and the Neo-Conservatives.
Limbaugh, Fox news, 9/12, etc. are using Orwellian tactics to muddle the issues with hate. Newspeak and jackboots are becoming the American Way and it sickens me.
Limbaugh needs to be put on the bus alright. Maybe he would respond to some of his own advice. Perhaps we should segregate Limbaugh and the rest from the human beings.
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Posted by: ProfBob on Sep 18, 2009 2:11 AM
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‘Power to’, on the other hand, takes work, effort, and often, education. If not education, at least the ability to reason. Neither the ‘power over’ beliefs nor the ‘power to’ abilities are the exclusive domains of liberals or conservatives. Barack Obama and Colin Powell both are ‘power to’ people—as were Jefferson, Einstein, Edison, and Mother Theresa—and as are Tom Brady, Dan Brown, Bill Gates and the Clintons.
For a much more insightful and complete approach to our psychological motivations I would suggest reading Book 6 of the popular free ebook series “In Search of Utopia” (http://andgulliverreturns.info) And a view of our ethical motivations Book 4 of the same series does an even better job. Rush of course would never read these because his thinking patterns are clearly based on a self centered value system and a ‘power over’ psychological motivation. His status among some similarly intellectually and ethically dwarfed followers affirms his power.
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Posted by: Matamillion on Sep 18, 2009 4:23 AM
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Seriously, we were at least a week without an article about what a mountebank he is. What took him so long? Summer vacation?
Turn Off
Tune Out
REJECT!
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Posted by: HelperMonkey on Sep 18, 2009 4:23 AM
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Hmm.
1) homosexuality has been shown to be an inborn trait and a naturally occurring phenomenon, not only in humans but in monkeys and other animals.
2) I am not aware of a study which proves the same of racism. In fact I'm pretty sure racism is taught.
And
1b) Homosexuality doesn't hurt anybody, but
2b) racism does.
The comparison is laughable. Consider the logically-equivalent statement:
“If being able to curl your tongue being inborn is what makes it acceptable, why does racism being inborn not make racism acceptable?”
I don't think homosexuality is acceptable because it's inborn, I think it's acceptable because it's what some people choose to do in their private lives that doesn't hurt anybody.
What a fuckknob.
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Posted by: Allstar Cookie on Sep 18, 2009 4:29 AM
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Just as his comments about the sports media coverage of Donavan McNabb, there was nothing racist about his latest remarks.
Allstar Cookie
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Posted by: jrmart on Sep 18, 2009 4:59 AM
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that buys a lot of oxycodine Blame those that pay him that kind of money. And those that buy the products he sells. 45 Million
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Posted by: wardropper on Sep 18, 2009 5:57 AM
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Just so long as the media fall over themselves trying to find out what Mussolini's opinion is on the problems besetting Italy in the 1930s, parasites like Limbaugh will flourish.
It's up to you, America - the power to ignore him and make him obsolete is all yours.
Next time your local newspaper quotes the rat, complain to the editor.
Limbaugh and his fat mouth are not in the public interest, they are anti-American.
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It sounds like he's trying to justify his prejudices by calling them "nature"
Let's ask his sponsors if they agree that people are born racist.
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He deliberately dresses up his childish jealousies and bigotries in the pompous language and faked "gravitas" of an experienced senior citizen who has such wide experience of life and its inner workings that absolutely nobody knows more about anything at all than he does.
He's a spoiled and bitter child - nothing else.
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Peace
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Remember the movie The Road Warrior (Mad Max 2)?" Here's the Wikipedia entry on the character The Toadie:...the gang crier who articulates his occupation with verbally inventive phrases. He is a plump, bespectacled man who masks his cruelty with a jolly facade. He wears a decorated mink stole as a hat and has many ornaments on his clothes. His behavior with Humungus and Wez marks him as a classic sycophant. Toadie takes pleasure in molesting helpless prisoners, but the gang has little respect for him.
Life does immitate art.
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This is the world that Rush and his followers are stuck in. This is the world they want to go back to. This is the world view they have as an answer to everything. And this is the reason Conservatives are becoming increasingly irrelevant for today's world, because--in the end--they really have no answers.
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He was lampooning the idea. . . you Lefties are either idiots or liars!
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Observe how the big guy deftly weaves his racist "satire" into an advertisement for unfettered corporate aggression.
Reminds me of the fake cell phone ad:
"Of course, our cell phones don't give you -- 'cancer' unless by -- 'cancer' you mean... great service, at a low, low price."
Do not be deceived, brothers and sisters!
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He has to get high to tolerate himself. I guess his parents are proud of their junkie son.LOL
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