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There Are More Slaves Today Than at Any Time in Human History
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The world suffers global recession, enormous inequity, hunger, deforestation, pollution, climate change, nuclear weapons, terrorism, etc. To those who say we’re not really making progress, many might point to the fact that at least we’ve eliminated slavery.
But sadly that is not the truth.
One hundred forty-three years after passage of the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and 60 years after Article 4 of the U.N.'s Universal Declaration of Human Rights banned slavery and the slave trade worldwide, there are more slaves than at any time in human history -- 27 million.
Today’s slavery focuses on big profits and cheap lives. It is not about owning people like before, but about using them as completely disposable tools for making money.
During the four years that Benjamin Skinner researched modern-day slavery, he posed as a buyer at illegal brothels on several continents, interviewed convicted human traffickers in a Romanian prison and endured giardia, malaria, dengue and a bad motorcycle accident.
But Skinner is most haunted by his experience in a brothel in Bucharest, Romania, where he was offered a young woman with Down syndrome in exchange for a used car.
Currently a fellow at the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy at Harvard Kennedy School of Government, and previously a special assistant to Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, Skinner has written for Newsweek, the Los Angeles Times, Foreign Policy and others. He was named one of National Geographic’s Adventurers of the Year 2008. His first book, now in paperback, is A Crime So Monstrous: Face to Face with Modern-Day Slavery.
Terrence McNally: What first got you interested in slavery?
Benjamin Skinner: The fuel began before I was born. The abolitionism in my blood began at least as early as the 18th century, when my Quaker ancestors stood on soapboxes in Connecticut and railed against slavery. I had other relatives that weren’t Quaker, but had the same beliefs. My great-great-great-grandfather fought with the Connecticut artillery, believing that slavery was an abomination that could only be overturned through bloodshed.
Yet today, after the deaths of 360,000 Union soldiers, after over a dozen conventions and 300 international treaties, there are more slaves than at any point in human history.
TM: Is that raw numbers or as a percentage of the population?
BS: I want to be very clear what I mean when I say the word slavery. If you look it up in Webster's dictionary, the first definition is "drudgery or toil." It's become a metaphor for undue hardship, because we assume that once you legally abolish something, it no longer exists. But as a matter of reality for up to 27 million people in the world, slaves are those forced to work, held through fraud, under threat of violence, for no pay beyond subsistence. It's a very spare definition.
TM: Whose definition is that?
BS: Kevin Bales's. [His Disposable People: New Slavery in the Global Economy was nominated for the 1999 Pulitzer Prize, and he is the president of Free the Slaves ] I'm glad you asked because he's not given enough credit. He originally came up with the number 27 million, and it's subsequently been buttressed by international labor organization studies. Governments will acknowledge estimates of some 12.3 million slaves in the world, but NGOs in those same countries say the numbers are more than twice as high.
Kevin did a lot of the academic work that underpinned my work. I wanted to go out and get beyond the numbers, to show what one person's slavery meant. In the process of doing that, I met hundreds of slaves and survivors.
TM: As an investigative reporter rather than an academic, you take us where the trades are made, the suffering takes place and the survivors eke out their existences.
BS: In an underground brothel in Bucharest, I was offered a young woman with the visible effect of Down syndrome. One of her arms was covered in slashes, where I can only assume she was trying to escape daily rape the only way she knew how. That young woman was offered to me in trade for a used car.
TM: This was a Romanian used car?
BS: Yes, and I knew that I could get that car for about 1,500 euros. While that may sound like a very low price for human life, consider that five hours from where I live in New York -- a three-hour flight down to Port au Prince, Haiti, and an hour from the airport -- I was able to negotiate for a 10-year-old girl for cleaning and cooking, permanent possession and sexual favors. What do you think the asking price was?
TM: I don't know ... $7,500?
BS: They asked for $100, and I talked them down to $50. Now to put that in context: Going back to the time when my abolitionist ancestors were on their soapbox, in 1850, you could buy a healthy grown male for the equivalent of about $40,000.
TM: When I first read such big numbers, I was shocked.
BS: This is not to diminish the horrors that those workers would face, nor to diminish their dehumanization one bit. It was an abomination then as it is today. But in the mid-19th century, masters viewed their slaves as an investment.
But here's the thing: When a slave costs $50 on the street in broad daylight in Port au Prince -- by the way, this was in a decent neighborhood, everybody knew where these men were and what they did -- such people are, to go back to Kevin's term, eminently disposable in the eyes of their masters.
TM: If my reading is correct, the biggest concentrations of the slave trade are in Southeast Asia and portions of Latin America?
BS: If you were to plot slaves on the map, you'd stick the biggest number of pins in India, followed by Pakistan, Nepal, Bhutan. There are arguably more slaves In India than the rest of the world combined.
And yet, if you look at international efforts or American pressure, India is largely let off the hook because Indian federal officials claim, "We have no slaves. These are just poor people. And these exploitive labor practices," -- if you're lucky enough to get that term out of them -- "are a byproduct of poverty."
Let me be clear, the end of slavery cannot wait for the end of poverty. Slavery in India is primarily generational debt bondage, people whose grandparents took a debt.
TM: To go back to the definition: Forced to work against their will with no escape.
BS: Held through fraud under threat of violence for no pay beyond subsistence. These are people that cannot walk away.
I stumbled upon a fellow in a quarry in Northern India who'd been enslaved his entire life. He had assumed that slavery at birth. His grandfather had taken a debt of 62 cents, and three generations and three slave masters later, the principal had not been paid off one bit. The family was illiterate and innumerate. This fellow, who I call Gonoo -- he asked me to protect his identity -- was still forced to work, held through fraud under threat of violence for no pay beyond subsistence.
Since he was a child, he and his family and his children, along with the rest of the enslaved villagers, took huge rocks out of the earth. They pummeled those rocks into gravel for the subgrade of India's infrastructure, which is the gleaming pride of the Indian elites.
They further pulverized that gravel into silica sand for glass. There's only one way that you turn a profit off handmade sand, and that's through slavery.
TM: Another method you describe: Someone shows up in a poverty-stricken village saying they need workers for the mines hundreds of miles away.
BS: It's a massive problem in the north of Brazil. What's tricky about this, in many cases these workers want to work. But they don't want to be forced to work under threat of violence, beaten regularly, having the women in their lives raped as a means of humiliating them, and then not being paid anything.
TM: They are transported to the mines, and when they arrive, they have a debt for that transportation, which is greater than anything they will ever be able to repay.
BS: And if they try to leave, there are men with guns. That's slavery. In the Western Hemisphere, child slavery, as we spoke of before, is most rampant in Haiti. According to UNICEF, there are 300,000 child slaves in Haiti.
TM: Does that mean in Haiti or originating in Haiti?
BS: That means within Haitian borders.
TM: So with all the poverty in Haiti, there are still people who can afford 300,000 slaves?
BS: Well if they're paying $50 ...
I went back last summer with Dan Harris of ABC Nightline. He was pretty incredulous of my claim. In fact, it ended up taking him 10 hours from ABC's offices in Manhattan, but by the end of those 10 hours, he'd negotiated with not one, but three traffickers who'd offered him three separate girls.
As he put it, the remarkable thing is not that you can get a child for $50, but that you can get a child for free. When you go up into these villages, you see such desperation on the parts of the parents.
I want to make clear, I never paid for human life; I never would pay for human life. I talked to too many individuals who run trafficking shelters and help slaves become survivors. They implored me, "Do not pay for human life. You will be giving rise to a trade in human misery, and as a journalist, you'll be projecting to the world that this is the way that you own the problem." If you were to buy all 300,000 child slaves in Haiti, next year, you'd have 600,000.
TM: If you were to buy the 300,000 slaves in Haiti in one fell swoop, you would be telling traders, "Hey, business is good," and so they'd grab more slaves.
BS: You're talking about introducing hard currency into a transaction that in many cases hasn't involved hard currency in the past. You're massively incentivizing a trade in human lives.
TM: These are those who practice what they call redemptions, buying slaves their freedom. Who's doing it, and what's your analysis of it?
BS: On the basis of three months spent in southern and northern Sudan, two months in southern Sudan in particular. ... There was one particular evangelical group based in Switzerland, organized and run by an American who raised cash around the States. They'd go to a Sunday School or a second-grade class in Colorado, talk about slavery, and say, "Bring us your lunch money. If you can get us $50, we will buy a slave's freedom."
It was a very effective sales pitch. They managed to raise over $3 million dollars by my calculations over the course of the 1990s.
In theory, they were giving money to "retrievers" who would go into northern Sudan, and through whatever means necessary, secure the slaves' freedom and bring them back down into the south.
In the context of the Sudanese civil war, slavery is used as a weapon of war by the north. Northern militias raid southern villages, and in many cases, kill the men and take the women and children as slaves and as a weapon of genocide. That much is not questioned. There is no question that these slave raids were going on.
I found that redemption on the ground was enormously problematic. There was scant oversight. They were literally giving duffel bags full of cash to factions within the rebels that were at that point resisting an ongoing peace process.
What they risked doing, whether through recklessness or through intent, was to become essentially angels of destruction at a time when a negotiated peace was just beginning to take hold. Thankfully, at this point they've scaled back the redemptions.
TM: So they were collecting money in the States to free slaves, and then funding a rebel movement in a war, and ...
BS: Potentially prolonging the war.
Thankfully, in the end, the death of rebel leader John Gurang meant that a different faction came to be more powerful. From my perspective, however, what was going on there was largely fraudulent.
I went back and asked the rebel officials, "What do you do with this money?" and they said, "We use it for the benefit of the people." Which begs the question, "But I thought this was being used to buy back slaves. I don't get it."
And they said, "Well you know, there's clothes, uniforms ..." They didn't actually say arms, but they said all sorts of things that they needed hard currency for, and this was their way of getting the cash.
I don't blame the rebels. If I were in a similar situation, I'd probably do the same thing. The most important point is this: By the merest estimates there are still some 12,000 slaves held in brutal bondage in the north of Sudan, and the government has not arrested or prosecuted one slave raider, one slave trader, one slave master. And as long as that continues to be the situation, the government of Sudan is in gross violation of international law.
TM: How does the distinction between sexual slavery and other sorts of labor show up, and how does it matter?
BS: When we're defining slavery, fundamentally at its core it's the same in each and every circumstance. We're talking about people forced to work held through fraud, under threat of violence, for no pay beyond subsistence. If we're talking about forced commercial sexual slavery, forced prostitution, there's an added element of humiliation or shame, because we're talking about rape.
In many parts of the world and in many traditional societies, if a woman is raped it's her fault. If a woman is liberated and tries to go back to the village she comes from, she will never again lead a normal life.
I think it's safe to say even in the United States, which we assume is a much more welcoming, tolerant society, women who've been in prostitution, regardless if it's forced or not, have a difficult time leading a normal life afterward.
There is a school of thought that sexual slavery is somehow worse than other forms of slavery. I actually don't buy that. I think that all slavery is monstrous, and no one slave's emancipation should wait for that of another. At the same time, if some people are moved to fight sexual slavery and sexual trafficking at the exclusion of other forms of slavery, God bless them, as long as they're fighting slavery at the end of the day.
TM: Briefly, what is the situation in America?
BS: On average, in the past half-hour, one more person will have been trafficked to the United States into slavery. About 14,000-17,000 are trafficked into the U.S. each year and forced to work within U.S. borders under threat of violence for no pay beyond subsistence.
TM: What can people do?
BS: On a personal basis, they can support CAST (Coalition to Abolish Slavery and Trafficking) in Los Angeles. CAST has the oldest shelter in the country for trafficked women and has terrific programs that help victims of all forms of trafficking. It's a solid, mature organization.
They can also get involved with Free the Slaves. And they can talk about the issue more. Barack Obama is still setting his foreign policy agenda. He needs to hear from all of us that the true abolition of slavery needs to be a part of his legacy.
A quarter of Skinner's publishing royalties go to Free the Slaves.
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Posted by: neapolitan on Aug 25, 2009 1:49 AM
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I have noticed that Alternet is one of the only left news sources that does have articles on modern slavery on a fairly regular basis.
Kudos.
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Posted by: richholland on Aug 25, 2009 4:02 AM
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but it is useless to judge from an european standpoint only.
10 years ago in Northern Thailand you could go to certain villages of tribal people and arrange a maid for the household.
Of course the poor parents needed money...
If you abused the girl she could go to the police and it would cost you 2 years in jail.
From personal experience in Asia I see a difference between people sold and fear that you should carefully investigate all circumstances.
In Thailand during the holidays the schoolchildren stay in daytime in the bars where the mothers dance in the evening.
In spite of suggestion once made in an american tvprogramma, the Thai police watches seriously and in the evening the children are out of the bar.
Nowadays many products in the USA are made in China by poor peasants who receive permission to leave their village and work in a factory. If they lose the job the police can put them in jail....(but the T-shirts are cheap)
In my northern village (near Chieng Mai, Thailand)
sometimes hungry boys and girls arrive out of China.
In the netherlands now we face the fact that legal adopted children from Southern America and China were stolen from the parents.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 25, 2009 6:28 AM
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We must all work to end this behavior with serious jail-time, and can we bring back hard labor for these evil people perpetrating these crimes? Thank you for pursuing this subject, which no one wants to talk about.
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Posted by: nobuko on Aug 25, 2009 6:50 AM
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With the Insurance Industry ripping off those who can afford their coverage, and many Americans who still have jobs, are in nothing, short of BONDAGE!
Many haven't seen a pay raise in years, but if they got one, the Premiums for Healthcare ate it up IMMEDIATELY, along with the increase in Cost of Living EVERYWHERE!
and President Obama, wants to MOVE FORWARD! I Pray, Michelle and her mom, is talking to the brother, informing him how he's screwing up and LOOSING his base!
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Posted by: littlepitcher on Aug 25, 2009 7:13 AM
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Several sweatshop clothing factories using Oriental slave labor have been found and closed down in LA and NY.
And, of course, almost all of those hideously expensive and highly sought-after Oriental rugs pimped by interior designers are crafted by child slave labor, which often kills the laborer before he or she is twelve.
Thank you for a superb article.
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Aug 25, 2009 8:01 AM
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"Human resources" are made to sound like "raw materials" or "machinery", expendable/disposable property!
Wake-up, sheeple!
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Posted by: rafaeltoral on Aug 25, 2009 12:31 PM
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I think most of the blame for overpopulation falls on religion in general. Most of the ignorance in the world can also be attributed to religion in general. Atleast that is my opinion.
So back to my original point. Do you need any tips for how to go about it Ugly American? I think taking a bunch of sleeping pills and lying down on the train tracks would be a "colorful" way to go.
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Posted by: Dankhank on Aug 25, 2009 1:11 PM
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Boo freakin' Hoo ... I need an Ipod to scramble my brain all day ...
Ipods are for kids ...
grow up ...
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Posted by: Ari LeVaux on Aug 25, 2009 8:55 AM
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Thanks
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Posted by: carrotwax on Aug 25, 2009 9:38 AM
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What about the many people who are living hand to mouth, working minimum wage and on the verge of being homeless? If they're working at Walmart, their employer knows they can extract as much as possible and the person won't quit. Yes, the person can leave - and be homeless. This is "wage slavery", and can be almost as damaging as regular slavery.
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Posted by: Matamillion on Aug 25, 2009 10:21 AM
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Might as well just let it happen, I mean my shoes weren't made by slaves... DOH!
My groceries weren't grown & processed by slaves in brown countries... DOH!
My plastic swag bullshit wasn't constructed by child slaves in some infested slum... DOH!
My car runs on... DOH!
My electric company didn't spill... DOH!
My makeup company didn't burn the eyes out of... DOH!
WE KNOW IT'S ALL HAPPENING RIGHT NOW FOR OUR PERSONAL BENEFIT!
And you know I could list our panoply of perfidy ALL day & every one of them would be true.
If you think we don't own these abominations, then what are we doing here besides being entertained by the suffering & exploitation of the weak?
Now we can go ahead & bring this nugget up at a dinner party & wow everyone with our compassion & knowledge as we sip low footprint wine and shove stuffed mushrooms down our gullets.
Are we kidding ourselves? We already know all this stuff.
Are we waiting for proof or something?
NO!
We are doing next to nothing about it or this horrific article never would have seen the light of day in the first place.
There would already be a single payer, there would be no poverty, there would be no fair trade coffee, there would be no genital mutilation, there would be no tasered grandmothers, there would be no SLAVERY AT ALL if we didn't find it so very entertaining & not really give a rat's ass.
And who are we?
Christians, Muslims & Jews?
What did our god teach us at prayer?
What difference did any religion make to any of these exploited people?
Oh, I know, a few million were lifted up out of the sewer to salve our conscience. Great for them. Great for us. That just leaves 4.5 BILLION.
Look what we did with all that defense money. I mean we're winning in Afghanistan, right?... DOH!
But, we used it to save all those Iraqis from being chipper shredded, except for the 1.4 MILLION DEAD ONES... DOH!
Boy are they ever FREE!
It's all crap, all these hot bullshit buttons.
Why are we still arguing over this?
We know it's wrong and bad and painful. We should stop it! WTF?
But then we'd only be stopping ourselves...
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Posted by: SteveA on Aug 25, 2009 10:29 AM
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Head on by the Acorn/Guevara outlet near you to receive your next check & assignment.
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Posted by: PaulK on Aug 25, 2009 1:20 PM
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So, these are our country's 300,000 slaves, aren't they?
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Posted by: billwald on Aug 25, 2009 1:39 PM
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On the other hand, freedom is a mental state. As long as one can think, "Screw you, owner," one is free. "Freedom's just another word for 'nothing left to lose'."
The BIG MISTAKE of the Confederacy was not freeing the slaves. The state should have bought them with tax money and turned them loose. As long as the white people could pay slave wages to black people and only white people could vote, we would have developed a similar system to India's. Only the people who used slaves for their sexual perversions would have suffered loss in the long run.
The owners in the New England state tried slavery but it was much cheaper to hire white serfs and let them starve in the winter. Can't let property starve.
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Posted by: Traider on Aug 25, 2009 1:51 PM
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Posted by: cypriot on Aug 25, 2009 1:58 PM
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How many of these 14,500 did Skinner lead the police to? How many arrests is he responsible for? He did not mention any. The only evidence we have for this is his word. This reminds me of Senator Joseph McCarthy saying he held in his hand the names of 205 communists in the State Department - but he never revealed any of them. Anyone can allege anything.
The police are always raiding brothels. At 14,500 per year they should be finding lots of slaves. Why do they find none?
What happens to these slaves once they get too old for prostitution? Are they killed? That is a lot of bodies to hide.
In the past several years the FBI did three different nationwide investigations into prostitution, which they called Operation Cross Country. Each time they rescued fewer than 50 prostitutes between the ages of 13 and 17. At no time they report finding any adult slaves. The FBI is not going to ignore slavery - it is a violation of the 13th Amendment, hence a federal crime. 14,500 slaves brought into this country each year, yet the FBI finds none? That is why I am extremely skeptical.
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Posted by: RevolutionNet on Aug 26, 2009 12:19 AM
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FREE AMERICA
REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY
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Posted by: ClassAct on Aug 26, 2009 8:36 AM
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In the larger analysis, subsistence might be considered as being in the eyes of the beholder. This slavery described, inhumane and unbelieveable as it is, seems to be but civilization at large proscribed into a smaller box where suffering is most acute. It differs only in degree but not in kind from employment everywhere: it is the image of our own face in the glass.
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Posted by: stellabloo on Aug 26, 2009 8:37 AM
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American Anti-Slavery Group homepage
Some of the stories are from an immigrant-turned-domestic slave in the US, a foreign worker-turned-domestic slave in the Middle East, an ex-slave owner from Mauritania (which still has an overt tradition of hereditary slavery), a 14 yr old runaway in the US forced into sexual slavery - when her captor was finally arrested (YEARS later) on other charges, police were not interested in the naked teenager locked in the closet (!) - and a survivor of the laogai, the chinese gulag.
The story of the laogai is perhaps the most disturbing, if only to demonstrate that government-sponsored forced labour is alive and well - no one knows exactly how many (mostly political) prisoners are being detained or even how many laogai exist. Given the close economic ties, it is only a question of time before Amerika imports the concept of large-scale prison labour (many great empires were built by slave labour and it has helped to make China a dominant world power!) from Beijing along with the latest in survelliance technology. And by some accounts, this is already happening :.(
The Laogai Research Foundation
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Posted by: Bearzerker on Aug 26, 2009 10:32 PM
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It is right it should be so;
Man was made for joy and woe;
And when this we rightly know,
Thro' the world we safely go.
Joy and woe are woven fine,
A clothing for the soul divine.
Under every grief and pine
Runs a joy with silken twine.
The babe is more than swaddling bands;
Every farmer understands.
Every tear from every eye
Becomes a babe in eternity;
This is caught by females bright,
And return'd to its own delight.
The bleat, the bark, bellow, and roar,
Are waves that beat on heaven's shore.
To see a world in a grain of sand,
And a heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.
Every night and every morn
Some to misery are born,
Every morn and every night
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.
A robin redbreast in a cage
Puts all of heaven in a rage.
God appears, and God is light,
To those poor souls who dwell in night;
But does a human form display
To those who dwell in realms of day.
from "Songs of Innocence"
by William Blake
It is right it should be so;
Man was made for joy and woe;
And when this we rightly know,
Thro' the world we safely go.
Joy and woe are woven fine,
A clothing for the soul divine.
Under every grief and pine
Runs a joy with silken twine.
The babe is more than swaddling bands;
Every farmer understands.
Every tear from every eye
Becomes a babe in eternity;
This is caught by females bright,
And return'd to its own delight.
The bleat, the bark, bellow, and roar,
Are waves that beat on heaven's shore.
To see a world in a grain of sand,
And a heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.
Every night and every morn
Some to misery are born,
Every morn and every night
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.
A robin redbreast in a cage
Puts all of heaven in a rage.
God appears, and God is light,
To those poor souls who dwell in night;
But does a human form display
To those who dwell in realms of day.
compiled from
"Songs of Innocence"
by William Blake 1794
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Posted by: Hempman on Aug 27, 2009 8:49 AM
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Food, water, medical services and other necesities of life routinely made unavailable to anyone who does no kneel to the imperialist capitalists by taking anything thrown at one, along with false promises of advancement and raises to justify wages depressed below an artificially low poverty level, the continued rationing out of necesary elements of life based soley on one's level in the hierarchy of a given capitalist business. His definition is spare, but BS focuses only on the most dramatic tales that will sell stories.
BS is being disingenuous as he ignores that most American workers are in hardly any better state. He hedges significantly by allowing India to say that the slaves are "only" exploited workers, failing to grasp that at the most basic level of his own definitions hundreds of thousands of American workers actually fit the definition of slaves. While most no longer simply pummel rocks, there are those who do the industrial equivalent not only for bare subsistence pay but frequently at less than susistence pay. The threat of violence against the hundreds of thousands of American workers may be more subtle and less direct, but the threat of violence exists and is exercised through police who feel no or little qualms about physically abusing even victims of crime.
To make things more oppressive, the American slaves are set up and permitted to take the place of the slave masters in beating, torturing, raping etc. to keep their own peers oppressed.
Sure, it _appears_ that one is "free to leave" and not be directly shot. But, the reality is that the next job is just as badly underpaid, the next community is filled with violence and oppression, and basic services are still held out as the carrot on the whipping stick.
There is a war on in America, a class war. The poor are the oppressed and are held slaves through intentionally depressed wages and the denial of basic human dignity and services. The violence is just as real, even though it is the very people who the capitalists are oppressing who are being used as tools to commit the violence. All covered under the plausible denial of the disgusting phrase "exploited workers."
Let me use a persona contemporary example. My grandson is now starting first grade. On the second day of school, they started a policy that when they bring the children out to the main patio for parents/guardians to pick them up, they repeatedly shout at the children "up against the wall." Exactly what sort of training is that intended to be? Is it related to the skyrocketing rate at which working class Americans are being arrested and imprisoned? How strongly is the arrest rate tied to manipulating the unemployment statistics, since imprisoned people are not counted as unemployed?
It may not make for dramatic stories about traveling to exotic countries to purchase children, but our children - US - are slaves, not simply exploited workers, of capitalist greed in just the same ways.
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Posted by: mtcloud on Aug 28, 2009 5:30 AM
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Waking Up From the Trance of
Social and Scientific Orthodox Propaganda
"What luck for rulers that men do not think"
- Adolf Hitler
So, with all the "stuff" out there in terms of what we are being told every day, how do we keep ourselves from becoming duped and "doped"? Can we achieve immunity from the vast epidemic of mindlessness that sweeps each year like clockwork through our society?
What do I know, and how do I know it? From what source am I getting my information? How do I recognize a "snowjob"?
If an idea is presented to you as THE explanation for some event or THE solution to some problem, you must say to yourself, "what other solutions are available?"
Try playing with other explanations that will lead to other solutions, such as reversing cause-effect relationships.
SWEEPING GENERALITIES or "ALLNESS" STATEMENTS: When you hear or read statements such as "doctors say" or "experts agree", the implication is that all doctors say, or all experts agree. Say to yourself, "have you talked to every doctor on the planet or every expert on the planet?" Likewise, when you hear the expression "nobody knows" or "no known cure" or "no evidence for", talk back to them and say to yourself, "Nobody you know knows", or "There is no cure you know of", or "There is no evidence you know about." Try substituting SOMENESS in place of ALLNESS - "Some doctors agree", or "Some scientists say", and you'll get the true picture.
Be ALERT for words like: all, everybody, no one, no, never, always, entirely, totally, completely and absolutely.
Example of an ALLNESS statement: The Salk vaccine was hailed as the "most dramatic breakthrough of the 20th century". Here, the unqualified superlatives assume that whoever said this was familiar with all the scientists who ever lived and all the breakthroughs of the 20th century. The statement also assumes that "a purely objective standard of superiority exists", which it doesn't. When superlatives are used, they should always be qualified, such as "the greatest breakthrough I've ever known". ALLNESS statements expressed by those who have set themselves as society's "experts" (with your unwitting support) use ALLNESS statements to "box you in". Of course, they have to stay in that same box if they want to keep their "job" as a social "expert".
Ad Verecundiam: This rather trite Latin phrase refers to the fallacy of logic of believing "leading authorities" without any supporting science. Externally, we are speaking of the "mystique" of perceived "authority". The maintenance of the "authority mystique" depends heavily on:
Limiting access to information
Limiting access to choices that challenge the position of the "authority"
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Posted by: WoodoMomo on Sep 23, 2009 6:36 AM
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Jess
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Posted by: neapolitan on Aug 25, 2009 1:49 AM
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I have noticed that Alternet is one of the only left news sources that does have articles on modern slavery on a fairly regular basis.
Kudos.
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Posted by: richholland on Aug 25, 2009 4:02 AM
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but it is useless to judge from an european standpoint only.
10 years ago in Northern Thailand you could go to certain villages of tribal people and arrange a maid for the household.
Of course the poor parents needed money...
If you abused the girl she could go to the police and it would cost you 2 years in jail.
From personal experience in Asia I see a difference between people sold and fear that you should carefully investigate all circumstances.
In Thailand during the holidays the schoolchildren stay in daytime in the bars where the mothers dance in the evening.
In spite of suggestion once made in an american tvprogramma, the Thai police watches seriously and in the evening the children are out of the bar.
Nowadays many products in the USA are made in China by poor peasants who receive permission to leave their village and work in a factory. If they lose the job the police can put them in jail....(but the T-shirts are cheap)
In my northern village (near Chieng Mai, Thailand)
sometimes hungry boys and girls arrive out of China.
In the netherlands now we face the fact that legal adopted children from Southern America and China were stolen from the parents.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 25, 2009 6:28 AM
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We must all work to end this behavior with serious jail-time, and can we bring back hard labor for these evil people perpetrating these crimes? Thank you for pursuing this subject, which no one wants to talk about.
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Posted by: nobuko on Aug 25, 2009 6:50 AM
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With the Insurance Industry ripping off those who can afford their coverage, and many Americans who still have jobs, are in nothing, short of BONDAGE!
Many haven't seen a pay raise in years, but if they got one, the Premiums for Healthcare ate it up IMMEDIATELY, along with the increase in Cost of Living EVERYWHERE!
and President Obama, wants to MOVE FORWARD! I Pray, Michelle and her mom, is talking to the brother, informing him how he's screwing up and LOOSING his base!
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Posted by: littlepitcher on Aug 25, 2009 7:13 AM
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Several sweatshop clothing factories using Oriental slave labor have been found and closed down in LA and NY.
And, of course, almost all of those hideously expensive and highly sought-after Oriental rugs pimped by interior designers are crafted by child slave labor, which often kills the laborer before he or she is twelve.
Thank you for a superb article.
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Aug 25, 2009 8:01 AM
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"Human resources" are made to sound like "raw materials" or "machinery", expendable/disposable property!
Wake-up, sheeple!
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I think most of the blame for overpopulation falls on religion in general. Most of the ignorance in the world can also be attributed to religion in general. Atleast that is my opinion.
So back to my original point. Do you need any tips for how to go about it Ugly American? I think taking a bunch of sleeping pills and lying down on the train tracks would be a "colorful" way to go.
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Posted by: Dankhank on Aug 25, 2009 1:11 PM
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Boo freakin' Hoo ... I need an Ipod to scramble my brain all day ...
Ipods are for kids ...
grow up ...
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Posted by: Ari LeVaux on Aug 25, 2009 8:55 AM
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Thanks
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Posted by: carrotwax on Aug 25, 2009 9:38 AM
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What about the many people who are living hand to mouth, working minimum wage and on the verge of being homeless? If they're working at Walmart, their employer knows they can extract as much as possible and the person won't quit. Yes, the person can leave - and be homeless. This is "wage slavery", and can be almost as damaging as regular slavery.
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Posted by: Matamillion on Aug 25, 2009 10:21 AM
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Might as well just let it happen, I mean my shoes weren't made by slaves... DOH!
My groceries weren't grown & processed by slaves in brown countries... DOH!
My plastic swag bullshit wasn't constructed by child slaves in some infested slum... DOH!
My car runs on... DOH!
My electric company didn't spill... DOH!
My makeup company didn't burn the eyes out of... DOH!
WE KNOW IT'S ALL HAPPENING RIGHT NOW FOR OUR PERSONAL BENEFIT!
And you know I could list our panoply of perfidy ALL day & every one of them would be true.
If you think we don't own these abominations, then what are we doing here besides being entertained by the suffering & exploitation of the weak?
Now we can go ahead & bring this nugget up at a dinner party & wow everyone with our compassion & knowledge as we sip low footprint wine and shove stuffed mushrooms down our gullets.
Are we kidding ourselves? We already know all this stuff.
Are we waiting for proof or something?
NO!
We are doing next to nothing about it or this horrific article never would have seen the light of day in the first place.
There would already be a single payer, there would be no poverty, there would be no fair trade coffee, there would be no genital mutilation, there would be no tasered grandmothers, there would be no SLAVERY AT ALL if we didn't find it so very entertaining & not really give a rat's ass.
And who are we?
Christians, Muslims & Jews?
What did our god teach us at prayer?
What difference did any religion make to any of these exploited people?
Oh, I know, a few million were lifted up out of the sewer to salve our conscience. Great for them. Great for us. That just leaves 4.5 BILLION.
Look what we did with all that defense money. I mean we're winning in Afghanistan, right?... DOH!
But, we used it to save all those Iraqis from being chipper shredded, except for the 1.4 MILLION DEAD ONES... DOH!
Boy are they ever FREE!
It's all crap, all these hot bullshit buttons.
Why are we still arguing over this?
We know it's wrong and bad and painful. We should stop it! WTF?
But then we'd only be stopping ourselves...
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Posted by: SteveA on Aug 25, 2009 10:29 AM
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Head on by the Acorn/Guevara outlet near you to receive your next check & assignment.
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Posted by: PaulK on Aug 25, 2009 1:20 PM
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So, these are our country's 300,000 slaves, aren't they?
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Posted by: billwald on Aug 25, 2009 1:39 PM
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On the other hand, freedom is a mental state. As long as one can think, "Screw you, owner," one is free. "Freedom's just another word for 'nothing left to lose'."
The BIG MISTAKE of the Confederacy was not freeing the slaves. The state should have bought them with tax money and turned them loose. As long as the white people could pay slave wages to black people and only white people could vote, we would have developed a similar system to India's. Only the people who used slaves for their sexual perversions would have suffered loss in the long run.
The owners in the New England state tried slavery but it was much cheaper to hire white serfs and let them starve in the winter. Can't let property starve.
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Posted by: Traider on Aug 25, 2009 1:51 PM
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Posted by: cypriot on Aug 25, 2009 1:58 PM
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How many of these 14,500 did Skinner lead the police to? How many arrests is he responsible for? He did not mention any. The only evidence we have for this is his word. This reminds me of Senator Joseph McCarthy saying he held in his hand the names of 205 communists in the State Department - but he never revealed any of them. Anyone can allege anything.
The police are always raiding brothels. At 14,500 per year they should be finding lots of slaves. Why do they find none?
What happens to these slaves once they get too old for prostitution? Are they killed? That is a lot of bodies to hide.
In the past several years the FBI did three different nationwide investigations into prostitution, which they called Operation Cross Country. Each time they rescued fewer than 50 prostitutes between the ages of 13 and 17. At no time they report finding any adult slaves. The FBI is not going to ignore slavery - it is a violation of the 13th Amendment, hence a federal crime. 14,500 slaves brought into this country each year, yet the FBI finds none? That is why I am extremely skeptical.
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FREE AMERICA
REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY
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In the larger analysis, subsistence might be considered as being in the eyes of the beholder. This slavery described, inhumane and unbelieveable as it is, seems to be but civilization at large proscribed into a smaller box where suffering is most acute. It differs only in degree but not in kind from employment everywhere: it is the image of our own face in the glass.
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Posted by: stellabloo on Aug 26, 2009 8:37 AM
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American Anti-Slavery Group homepage
Some of the stories are from an immigrant-turned-domestic slave in the US, a foreign worker-turned-domestic slave in the Middle East, an ex-slave owner from Mauritania (which still has an overt tradition of hereditary slavery), a 14 yr old runaway in the US forced into sexual slavery - when her captor was finally arrested (YEARS later) on other charges, police were not interested in the naked teenager locked in the closet (!) - and a survivor of the laogai, the chinese gulag.
The story of the laogai is perhaps the most disturbing, if only to demonstrate that government-sponsored forced labour is alive and well - no one knows exactly how many (mostly political) prisoners are being detained or even how many laogai exist. Given the close economic ties, it is only a question of time before Amerika imports the concept of large-scale prison labour (many great empires were built by slave labour and it has helped to make China a dominant world power!) from Beijing along with the latest in survelliance technology. And by some accounts, this is already happening :.(
The Laogai Research Foundation
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It is right it should be so;
Man was made for joy and woe;
And when this we rightly know,
Thro' the world we safely go.
Joy and woe are woven fine,
A clothing for the soul divine.
Under every grief and pine
Runs a joy with silken twine.
The babe is more than swaddling bands;
Every farmer understands.
Every tear from every eye
Becomes a babe in eternity;
This is caught by females bright,
And return'd to its own delight.
The bleat, the bark, bellow, and roar,
Are waves that beat on heaven's shore.
To see a world in a grain of sand,
And a heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.
Every night and every morn
Some to misery are born,
Every morn and every night
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.
A robin redbreast in a cage
Puts all of heaven in a rage.
God appears, and God is light,
To those poor souls who dwell in night;
But does a human form display
To those who dwell in realms of day.
from "Songs of Innocence"
by William Blake
It is right it should be so;
Man was made for joy and woe;
And when this we rightly know,
Thro' the world we safely go.
Joy and woe are woven fine,
A clothing for the soul divine.
Under every grief and pine
Runs a joy with silken twine.
The babe is more than swaddling bands;
Every farmer understands.
Every tear from every eye
Becomes a babe in eternity;
This is caught by females bright,
And return'd to its own delight.
The bleat, the bark, bellow, and roar,
Are waves that beat on heaven's shore.
To see a world in a grain of sand,
And a heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.
Every night and every morn
Some to misery are born,
Every morn and every night
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.
A robin redbreast in a cage
Puts all of heaven in a rage.
God appears, and God is light,
To those poor souls who dwell in night;
But does a human form display
To those who dwell in realms of day.
compiled from
"Songs of Innocence"
by William Blake 1794
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Posted by: Hempman on Aug 27, 2009 8:49 AM
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Food, water, medical services and other necesities of life routinely made unavailable to anyone who does no kneel to the imperialist capitalists by taking anything thrown at one, along with false promises of advancement and raises to justify wages depressed below an artificially low poverty level, the continued rationing out of necesary elements of life based soley on one's level in the hierarchy of a given capitalist business. His definition is spare, but BS focuses only on the most dramatic tales that will sell stories.
BS is being disingenuous as he ignores that most American workers are in hardly any better state. He hedges significantly by allowing India to say that the slaves are "only" exploited workers, failing to grasp that at the most basic level of his own definitions hundreds of thousands of American workers actually fit the definition of slaves. While most no longer simply pummel rocks, there are those who do the industrial equivalent not only for bare subsistence pay but frequently at less than susistence pay. The threat of violence against the hundreds of thousands of American workers may be more subtle and less direct, but the threat of violence exists and is exercised through police who feel no or little qualms about physically abusing even victims of crime.
To make things more oppressive, the American slaves are set up and permitted to take the place of the slave masters in beating, torturing, raping etc. to keep their own peers oppressed.
Sure, it _appears_ that one is "free to leave" and not be directly shot. But, the reality is that the next job is just as badly underpaid, the next community is filled with violence and oppression, and basic services are still held out as the carrot on the whipping stick.
There is a war on in America, a class war. The poor are the oppressed and are held slaves through intentionally depressed wages and the denial of basic human dignity and services. The violence is just as real, even though it is the very people who the capitalists are oppressing who are being used as tools to commit the violence. All covered under the plausible denial of the disgusting phrase "exploited workers."
Let me use a persona contemporary example. My grandson is now starting first grade. On the second day of school, they started a policy that when they bring the children out to the main patio for parents/guardians to pick them up, they repeatedly shout at the children "up against the wall." Exactly what sort of training is that intended to be? Is it related to the skyrocketing rate at which working class Americans are being arrested and imprisoned? How strongly is the arrest rate tied to manipulating the unemployment statistics, since imprisoned people are not counted as unemployed?
It may not make for dramatic stories about traveling to exotic countries to purchase children, but our children - US - are slaves, not simply exploited workers, of capitalist greed in just the same ways.
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Waking Up From the Trance of
Social and Scientific Orthodox Propaganda
"What luck for rulers that men do not think"
- Adolf Hitler
So, with all the "stuff" out there in terms of what we are being told every day, how do we keep ourselves from becoming duped and "doped"? Can we achieve immunity from the vast epidemic of mindlessness that sweeps each year like clockwork through our society?
What do I know, and how do I know it? From what source am I getting my information? How do I recognize a "snowjob"?
If an idea is presented to you as THE explanation for some event or THE solution to some problem, you must say to yourself, "what other solutions are available?"
Try playing with other explanations that will lead to other solutions, such as reversing cause-effect relationships.
SWEEPING GENERALITIES or "ALLNESS" STATEMENTS: When you hear or read statements such as "doctors say" or "experts agree", the implication is that all doctors say, or all experts agree. Say to yourself, "have you talked to every doctor on the planet or every expert on the planet?" Likewise, when you hear the expression "nobody knows" or "no known cure" or "no evidence for", talk back to them and say to yourself, "Nobody you know knows", or "There is no cure you know of", or "There is no evidence you know about." Try substituting SOMENESS in place of ALLNESS - "Some doctors agree", or "Some scientists say", and you'll get the true picture.
Be ALERT for words like: all, everybody, no one, no, never, always, entirely, totally, completely and absolutely.
Example of an ALLNESS statement: The Salk vaccine was hailed as the "most dramatic breakthrough of the 20th century". Here, the unqualified superlatives assume that whoever said this was familiar with all the scientists who ever lived and all the breakthroughs of the 20th century. The statement also assumes that "a purely objective standard of superiority exists", which it doesn't. When superlatives are used, they should always be qualified, such as "the greatest breakthrough I've ever known". ALLNESS statements expressed by those who have set themselves as society's "experts" (with your unwitting support) use ALLNESS statements to "box you in". Of course, they have to stay in that same box if they want to keep their "job" as a social "expert".
Ad Verecundiam: This rather trite Latin phrase refers to the fallacy of logic of believing "leading authorities" without any supporting science. Externally, we are speaking of the "mystique" of perceived "authority". The maintenance of the "authority mystique" depends heavily on:
Limiting access to information
Limiting access to choices that challenge the position of the "authority"
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