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The 10 Dumbest Things Republicans Have Said About the Sotomayor Hearings

By AlterNet Staff, AlterNet. Posted July 15, 2009.


A list of the most ridiculous questions, jabs and rants by GOP lawmakers and other conservatives.
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At her Senate confirmation hearing yesterday, judicial nominee Sonia Sotomayor had to keep a straight face while Republicans heaped shame upon their party with a flood of ridiculous questions, unjustified jabs and pointless rants.

From sexist attacks about Sotomayor's "temperament" to a rigorous interrogation about the definition of nunchucks, GOPers came up with a multitude of embarrassing ways to try to hinder the Supreme Court nominee's confirmation.

The craziness and incompetence on display at the hearings has been more than matched by the absurd smears leveled at Sotomayor in the conservative media. The shining lights of conservatism -- Pat Buchanan, G. Gordan Liddy and Rush Limbaugh -- have outdone themselves with uninformed, offensive rants about the nominee.

AlterNet has compiled the 10 dumbest, most ridiculous statements about Sotomayor to issue from the lips of GOP lawmakers and other conservatives in the past few weeks.

1. Early Tuesday morning, Jeff Sessions seemed surprised that Sotomayor's legal decisions sometimes diverge from those of other judges of Puerto Rican descent. During a series of questions about Ricci v. DeStefano, Sessions scolded:

You voted not to reconsider the prior case. You voted to stay with the decision of the circuit. And in fact, your vote was the key vote. Had you voted with Judge [Jose] Cabranes, himself of Puerto Rican ancestry, had you voted with him, you could've changed that case.

An interesting tack, especially considering that since Sotomayor's nomination, Republicans have desperately clutched at her "wise Latina" comments in order to unconvincingly argue that Sotomayor would let her personal experience dictate her judicial decision making -- thereby continuing the grievous oppression of white men.

Sessions' barely suppressed racism comes into even sharper focus when we consider Steve Benen's point: "Imagine how absurd it would have been if, during [Samuel] Alito's confirmation hearings, [Wisconsin Sen.] Russ Feingold pressed him on why he didn't vote in a certain case with another Italian American judge."

2. A slightly more subtle (but hardly less stupid) question came from Arizona Republican Jon Kyl, who, when he wasn't reveling in the sound of his own voice, asked whether Sotomayor has "always been able to find a legal basis for every decision that (she's) rendered as a judge."

"This is not a trick question," Kyl assured her (as though the poor lady might be intimidated by the sheer force of his intellect). "I can't imagine that the answer would be otherwise than, yes, you've always found some legal basis for ruling one way or the other, some precedent, some reading of a statute, the Constitution or whatever it might be."

But, just to make sure: "You haven't ever had to throw up your arms and said, 'I can't find any legal basis for this opinion, so I'm going to base it on some other factor'? "

Yes, Sen. Kyl, when in doubt, she consults the zodiac. ("Well, the moon is in Cancer, so...") Seriously, people. She's a judge, not an astrologist.

3. After solemnly reminding Sotomayor that the New Haven, Conn., firefighters case is just one of many "cases where people are discriminated against," Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch took the opportunity to indulge in a little guilt by association -- while denying he was indulging in guilt by association.

"Let me just make one last point here," Hatch said. "You have nothing to do with this, I know. But there's a rumor that People for the American Way has -- that this organization has been smearing Frank Ricci, who is only one of 20 plaintiffs in this case, because he may be willing to be a witness ... in these proceedings.

"I hope that's not true. And I know you have nothing to do with it, so don't -- don't think I'm trying to make a point against you. I'm not. I'm making a point that that's the type of stuff that doesn't belong in Supreme Court nomination hearings. And I know you would agree with me on that."

Right. I mean, no offense, Sonia, Sen. Hatch is totally not trying to hold that against you. Who brought up that nasty business about People for the American Way, anyhow? Offensive! I'm glad you agree.

4. Pat Buchanan, who cut his political teeth writing speeches for Richard Nixon, has a long history of embracing the vision of a diverse America. As Think Progress notes, he has: argued that slavery was good for African Americans; suggested Latinos don't want to assimilate; and openly wished that America was a country where everyone -- or almost everyone -- was white (someone's got to clean the toilets).


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What world do these people live in?
Posted by: kib on Jul 15, 2009 2:12 AM   
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I'm almost lost for words...but since I grew up in the south, I understand just how backwards and hateful these type of people can be. Not to bash the south, because they're are some very very level headed people. It's just that I have had it with such narrow minded, my way or the highway, I'm wrong but I want you to believe that I'm right, my country club is bigger, people. It's not about red or blue, it's about United We Stand! Common Cause

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» RE: You got some 'splainen to do. Posted by: sasquuatch55
Fascist senators and no-nothing wingnut radio farts. Nothing new here.
Posted by: Plexius2 on Jul 15, 2009 2:21 AM   
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The repressive attack machine will keep on trying to fire, even when it is empty of ammo. It says tons more about them than about Sotomayor. Voters take note when those senators come up for re-election. By the way, how many FEMALE congresspeople are on that comittee?

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Embarrassing
Posted by: Jo1028 on Jul 15, 2009 2:24 AM   
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It's really embarrassing to see the lack of intellect demonstrated so clearly. Sessions is particularly obtuse - He can't even tell when he's contradicting himself. And these guys think they can govern the country? It's no wonder Congress has a 0 credibility rating. These guys should be sentenced to 100 hours of having to listen to themselves

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it has been claimed that when women are menstruating they are closest to men
Posted by: Suzon on Jul 15, 2009 2:41 AM   
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in testosterone levels.

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Running around with bags over their heads
Posted by: Perry Logan on Jul 15, 2009 3:03 AM   
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Keep in mind these old guys have no idea why they're not in power anymore. ;)

The portion of the brain that governs self-criticism is missing or inactive in wingnuts. They can go on all day pointing out the alleged deficiencies of liberals, but they quite literally cannot see the error of their ways, no matter how often or egregiously they screw up.

Since the entire Republican hegemony (2000-2006) was one big continuous mistake, most of the last eight years are completely missing from the average winger's memory. This is right-wing neurology.

It's a wingnut survival mechanism. If the folks on the right--mostly white guys, let's face it--could adequately criticize themselves, they would all commit hari kari, or at least be running around with bags over their heads.

This theory explains the incredibly erratic behavior of the right these days--for example, how the Teabaggers are protesting the growth in goverment spending and power that was going on for the last eight years. Talk about slow reflexes!

We knew the Right couldn't handle defeat. But we did not know it would cause major memory loss and drive them insane. That's why Judge Sotomayor has to endure being grilled by characters out of an absurdist play.

They are also upset that Rush Limbaugh's Kidneys Are on Fire

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» P.S. Posted by: kogwonton
Ballad for Americans
Posted by: babka on Jul 15, 2009 3:42 AM   
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Let us give thanks they did not bring the coke can with the pubic hair.

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» Visual Poetry Posted by: johnwinthrop
» RE: Visual Poetry Posted by: Quannah
» what an embarrassment for America Posted by: aislinnluv
» RE: Clarence Thomas Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: Clarence Thomas Posted by: aislinnluv
» RE: Clarence Thomas Posted by: Longdream
sorry to deduct from your rant
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jul 15, 2009 5:02 AM   
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but "judicial temperament" is a quality well known nationally by bar associations and by the ABA to rate and recommend judges on local, state and federal levels. For example, some might say that Chuck "Smirk" Schumer is a good politician, but would lack judicial temperament. Hard to believe, isn't it?

It is not sexist as it is applied to thousands of candidates over the years of both sexes plus I suppose any transsexuals that Alternet's crack judicial commentators might find excluded from consideration in our mean (not an official term), racist blah blah society.

Good to see Altercommentators are as informed as ever.

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» Get It? Posted by: johnwinthrop
» RE: Soto...voce Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: Get It? Posted by: babs
» Do you get it? Posted by: BreeMass
» RE: Get It? Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Get It? Posted by: Morell
All indications are...
Posted by: PJAW on Jul 15, 2009 5:10 AM   
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that Judge Sotomayor will be confirmed. Even many of those who have objected to this nomination have conceded that there is no legitimate basis for rejecting her. Which leaves them with very little to bring to the discussion, so they fumble around, putting forth the effort to be the "loyal opposition", and looking rather petty in the process. At least that's true in the Senate. As for the "pundits" like Buchanan, Beck and Limbaugh, well, they're just being the frenetic, small-minded assholes that they have always been.

This is a nomination (and confirmation) that has little potential impact on the performance of the Court, inasmuch as she is likely to vote in substantially the same manner as the Justice she is replacing. Any real change in the balance and demeanor of the Court will likely not occur under Obama unless one of the "conservatives" on the bench leaves for some reason or another. Scalia (absurdly conservative) and Kennedy (moderately less so) are the two oldest at 73. Barring any personal misfortune, they will most probably still be on the bench to see the passing of the Obama administration, even if it lasts for 8 years. Stevens (89) and Ginsberg (76 and of questionable health) are the most likely to leave and they are staunch "liberals". Replacing them with another Obama appointee would likely bring little change.

The real action right now is taking place at the state supreme court level, where corporate (conservative) money is being heavily invested in those states where justices are elected. State supreme courts are the last stop before the Federal Supreme Court and relatively little actually goes beyond them.

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» Good point.... Posted by: brunowe
» RE: Good point.... Posted by: Quannah
They know not, but should
Posted by: BeyondBeliefs on Jul 15, 2009 5:23 AM   
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I live in South Carolina... The Bible Belt... with underfunded schools and over funded religions. The children here were told to worship religions that curse Gods Creation to hell and preach hate. Our Supreme Court defends Gods Creation, and so, our people here hate the Supreme Court.
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Do not ''forgive them father'', they should KNOW what they do, but they are GREEDY for ''heaven'' and live in FEAR of losing their ''soul'' to a ''flaming eternal hell'' constructed and supervised by their beloved, satanic, evil god.
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Do not ''forgive them father'', they should KNOW what they do.

Katrina Dogs Know Better

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Sotomayor: Authoritarian Rubber Stamp
Posted by: aahpat on Jul 15, 2009 5:24 AM   
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While she has been on the bench Sotomayor has sided with police and prosecutors 92% of the time in criminal justice issues. This, in a nation that has one of the worst criminal justice systems in the world.

Sotomayor: Authoritarian Rubber Stamp

I don't vote for right-wing drug warriors and I don't want to see more of them on the Supreme Court either.

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You wonder why America
Posted by: weathered on Jul 15, 2009 5:28 AM   
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suffers from low self-esteem, look at the buffoons that call themselves 'public servants'.

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Same Ideologue Faces & Rants Year After Year
Posted by: Brb007 on Jul 15, 2009 5:51 AM   
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Nothing surprising here. These are the same zealots and ideologues that have had a hand in the digression of America for decades. Nothing will change until these racist, misogynists are out of office. Unfortunately, there is a whole new breed of similarly minded zealots coming into office and they truly believe that they hold the best possible conservative ideas for America and her people, whether or not "her people," their employers agree!

The citizens who continue to vote for these self righteous prudes need educated about our Constitution and the very premise of America's promise to all who have come here to call it home. MOST of us have immigrant heritage.

As for the sexism that is still alive and well, particularly with these "Southern Gentlemen," it is fightening to see it dominating our politics even in 2009!

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The "wise Latina" is roughing up those old reichwingers
Posted by: xvictor on Jul 15, 2009 6:04 AM   
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A ideal finale to this hearing is for Ms. Sotomayor to approach those Rethugs and give 'em a good bitch slap. Just think of the ratings!!!!

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Only ten???!!!
Posted by: sausage on Jul 15, 2009 6:09 AM   
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;>

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» Only ten???!!! Beauty !!!! Posted by: Hiroak
» RE: Only ten???!!! Beauty !!!! Posted by: Ianni_Stragopulis
Here we go again!
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jul 15, 2009 6:43 AM   
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Wasn't Jeff Sessions a delight to watch? To watch the worst racist to sit in the senate in at least a generation question Judge Sotomayor about her infamous "wise Latina woman" remark was, to say the least, amusing. It was one of those jaw-dropping moments that makes the train wreck that is American politics such a joy to behold.

Isn't life wonderful?

As I write these words, the second day of the hearings has begun. The first question to the judge is focusing on the "wise Latina" comment. It is apparent that the Republicans are determined to beat this horse to life.

Fun with Dick and Liz

Tom Degan

Goshen, NY

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» RE: Progressive Southerners Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» Thank you Tom Posted by: Hiroak
» RE: Thank you Tom Posted by: omatravel
Sometimes they just need to close their mouths....
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Jul 15, 2009 6:54 AM   
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Who was it who said "better to keep silent and let people think you are an idiot, then to open your mouth and dispel ALL rumors." And these "Congressmen" were "ELECTED", hello? I want a look at their constituency along with an intelligence test for them ALL!

I understand that the GOP is well, a little humiliated - but come on! First these sniveling emasculated white males attack Michelle Obama for having toned arms, now they are parading their very thinly veiled contempt for one of the better Supreme Court picks of the last 20+ years, give us break!

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Gimme' that old time religion
Posted by: inprov73 on Jul 15, 2009 6:58 AM   
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Let's face it, what we're watching here is a bunch of Good Old White Boys running scared. They're seeing their smug, racist, misogynist world crashing down around them and they don't like it one bit.

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Anyone remember Judge Thomas confirmation??
Posted by: marletat on Jul 15, 2009 7:07 AM   
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The hate that oozed from Orrin Hatch and Arlen Spector for Anita Hill opened my eyes to the fact that these men shouldn't be senators, but here they are so many years later still the women haters they were then. Sessions, an idiot racist himself, shouldn't be questioning anyone!! Now we have John Cornyn the do nothing know nothing from Texas, his handlers must have put a new dvd in his drive or he couldn't even open his mouth to eat.

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» RE: these men shouldn't be senators Posted by: Sister_Lauren
IT'S STILL THE 'WOMAN THING'
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 15, 2009 7:31 AM   
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Which is a shame, because their inability to see her as a judge, as they would a man, puts their questions in that context. They concentrate on things that are unimportant and are missing the important stuff. Rumor is that's she's tough. So what! In a male that would be seen as firm and and appropriate qualities. Makes me wonder what they're missing because they can't seem to confront a smart woman with real questions. They really ought to be ashamed. ANNA

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The Upside..
Posted by: pizzmoe on Jul 15, 2009 8:27 AM   
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Happily, people like Sessions and Hatch are a dying breed.

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» RE: unfortunately... evil never dies Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: The Upside.. Posted by: omatravel
» RE: The Upside.. Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: The Upside.. Posted by: tony_opmoc
» RE: The Upside.. Posted by: tony_opmoc
» RE: The Upside.. Posted by: Basenjis
If another sc justice retires soon....
Posted by: xvictor on Jul 15, 2009 8:28 AM   
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president obama should nominate an ultra hard-line liberal to the sc. That should restore some ideological balance.

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IMPEACH EVERY SUPREME COURT JUSTICE THAT VOTED TO PUT GEORGE BUSH IN OFFICE. THEN TURN AROUND
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jul 15, 2009 8:38 AM   
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and revisit all of his nominees. If the republicans are going to whine, lets give them something to whine about.

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This is all for show
Posted by: muzunguhowru on Jul 15, 2009 8:52 AM   
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and part of their continued pandering to the base..They know she's going to be confirmed and they should be glad.. She will turn out to be a conservative and they know it.

I make a prediction: Within 2-3 years Roe V Wade will be overturned and Sonia Sotomayor will write the opinion for the right wing majority that does it.

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» RE: This is all for show Posted by: melpol
» RE: This is all for show Posted by: MT512
» RE: This is all for show Posted by: VZEQICVA
» Ignorance is NOT bliss! Posted by: Basenjis
We have met the enemy
Posted by: freshlemon on Jul 15, 2009 9:10 AM   
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of the people. Old white men who grew up amid the racism and misogyny of the mid-20th century and can't get over their "entitlement".

If it weren't so sad it would be laughable to watch them slither and flick their tongues like lizards as they ask stupid questions and get return slithers and flicks of approval from their cohorts.

An aside: If you are driving and the traffic flow is being blocked or slowed down, notice that the culprit is more often than not an old white man usually wearing a hat.

If you are a white haired old man, don't be offended. Some of you have grown up.

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» NOT ME, POGO. Posted by:
» RE: NOT ME, POGO. Posted by: freshlemon
New haven was a slam dunk
Posted by: robchapman on Jul 15, 2009 9:26 AM   
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After solemnly reminding Sotomayor that the New Haven, Conn., firefighters case is just one of many "cases where people are discriminated against," Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch

Based on law, precedent and fairness, New Haven's decision to decertify the fireman's promotion lst was a slam dunk.

The professionals in the CIty personnel department, the entire appeal division of the US and four supreme court justices all thought so.

Please read Justice Kennedy's appeal, given the facts,precedent and law he laid out Kennedy makes a fascinating presentation.

Paper and pencil tests favor white males; paper and pencil tests do not adequately messure the job qualifications required, assessment centers offer a better way to test, and the law requires that tests measure qualifications ONLY.

His finding- the white guys get promoted.

Robert Chapman- a white guy myself
Lansing, NY

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» Wrong Posted by: ReallyBearish
» Come on, show some courage! Posted by: ReallyBearish
hey wasnt that a Will Ferrell movie?
Posted by: dannrusso on Jul 15, 2009 9:35 AM   
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we can't have women around! the menstruation attracts BEARS!

GREAT! now you have endangered the entire newsroom...BEARS!

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Loyalty Before The Law.
Posted by: melpol on Jul 15, 2009 9:39 AM   
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Sonia will follow orders and be loyal. It was a wise choice made by her future bosses. She will always be thankful to those that got her the job. Chief Justice Roberts is a perfect example of a judge who has never bit the hand that fed him. He was appointed by George W. Bush and was always on the side of the prosecution,and the corporate over the individual. During confirmation hearings he falsely presented himself as a centrist. The choice of supreme court judges is based on long records of loyalty to special interests. Justice Souter was one of the few that broke conservative ranks. He did so in order to please friends in his liberal state.

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Qualifications being equal or better...
Posted by: reg373 on Jul 15, 2009 9:55 AM   
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of course, this is the slot for an Hispanic female. Just as with Thomas and Ginsburg, it's the only way to have the court reflect the makeup of the population it administers jurisprudence to --- found a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth

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They all need
Posted by: hedgewytch on Jul 15, 2009 10:52 AM   
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their medications adjusted.

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Senator Frankin vs Senator Graham
Posted by: MotherLodeBeth on Jul 15, 2009 12:40 PM   
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Speaking of temperament, Justice Scalia is also a hard minded NYC person who like Sotomayor has a rough edge. So why is she being singled out. And Senator Graham asked her if abortion is mentioned in the Constitution, while today Senator Frankin did a good job when he asked if birth control was mentioned. Thus birth control which most conservatives support isn't mentioned either. Have to admit I am really interested in the hearings and am watching them.

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Republicans Have Only Said 10 Dumb Things?
Posted by: lapdogs on Jul 15, 2009 1:08 PM   
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Wow, they are improving if that's the count of dumb things they have said.

Thought for sure it would be higher. Or is it?

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so many Catholics, so little time....
Posted by: babka on Jul 15, 2009 1:12 PM   
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I have wondered whether the fact that Justice Roberts can't have a child (with his wife) gave his anti-abortion bias that special "umph".

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Make NO MISTAKE...
Posted by: Quannah on Jul 15, 2009 1:59 PM   
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If the Republics had the number of votes to sustain a filibuster against Sotomayor's nomination, they certainly would. And they would be much nastier if they had the votes to keep her from being confirmed.

They are incapable of stopping her due to their low numbers and the results of the last election.

They are sore losers. They just have to stick their finger in somebody's eye. This time, it is Sotomayor, but they would do the same thing to any Obama nominee, because of their genetic stupidity.

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"She's a judge, not an astrologist"
Posted by: No.mad on Jul 15, 2009 2:16 PM   
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More to the poiont, She's a judge, not an ronald raygun.

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Graham needs to censure Grassley about his BULLYING
Posted by: marletat on Jul 15, 2009 2:49 PM   
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Grassley red faced and a smidgen from yelling.

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Wise Latina make fools of media and congressmen, white!
Posted by: Cherokeebandit on Jul 15, 2009 3:00 PM   
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If I were Sotomayor I would have told these "men?" what to do with their white men's club ideals. Beck doesn't have a clue and Buchan is well, Buchanan, take what he says with a single grain of salt. These guys are afraid of this woman.

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Three Cheers for the Alternet staff!
Posted by: outsideagitator on Jul 15, 2009 3:35 PM   
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The ten examples very nicely exposed the utter viciousness of the conservative wingnuts that run and control the repugnant party. As a person who has deep southern roots I am also repulsed when I hear a southern accent and though it is unfair to some southerners who are real progressives I usually view those whose accents identify them with suspicion until they give me reason to think otherwise.

I really enjoyed most of the comments as well.

Joseph

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Democrats or Republicans (with some exceptions like Ron Paul) are equally guilty
Posted by: Ianni_Stragopulis on Jul 15, 2009 4:21 PM   
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To the fact that the GOP is really, truly the party of the rich, the white, the racist, the hypocritical, and the "I don't give a damn about YOU as long as I have mine" minded folks? So is the Democrats if not the worst.
Sen. Feinstein husband had a 500 mil contract for Iraq. He subcontract to an Italian firm named Perrini for 25 millions. The rest is in Feinstein family packet (our tax money and their blood money). This is your D E M O C R A T S !!!. You are OK until you get caught dirty. Since Sonya Soto is a member of La Raza, she is a Racist. Obama is not your saviour, is your taxman and you will get taxed until you will get sick of your life. Ask your Senator Congressman or even Obama if they will be under the same health care program. They are not under SS like us, they have their own pension plan, like $15 000 a month!!!!!

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Sotomayor is a fully qualified ....
Posted by: Bbear41 on Jul 15, 2009 4:37 PM   
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...Rather conservative judge. The right wing has no legitimate reason to oppose her, except that she is an Obama appointment. If a global flood was expected , and the president wanted to build and arc, the repubs would oppose it

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That Oklahoma Senator
Posted by: bettyn on Jul 15, 2009 5:11 PM   
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saying, "You'd have some 'splaining to do." (Channeling his best Ricky Ricardo.)

OMG! What rock did they find this critter under?

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» RE: That Oklahoma Senator Posted by: marletat
The issue raised in the second (so called) dumb question...
Posted by: zigy on Jul 15, 2009 5:27 PM   
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is not so dumb. What the questioner (or interlocutor for all you Linguistics majors) is attempting to do is to get the nominee to say: Yes, I have ruled based on something other than a statute or a prior judicial ruling. It is a well established overt "fact" that judge must never admit to rulings based on anything but these two forms of precedent. However,covertly, many judges who see injustice (at least as they perceive it) in some body of law will find creative ways to "bend" or otherwise distort what they claim to be precedent to fit the particular facts of their case. Strict legal constructionists consider this to be "legislating from the bench" and such an admission would probably be adequate grounds to prevent Sotomeyer's nomination. The congressman appears to know that some "liberal" judges will admit to ruling without precedent based upon the liberal constitutional notion that the Constitution is a "living document" designed by the founders to be interpreted in new ways based upon changes in society that they (the founders) may not have foreseen.

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Let's talk about Texas for a minute, and one of my pet peeves.
Posted by: Longdream on Jul 15, 2009 6:33 PM   
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That's Lyndon Johnson.

You know, I hated the man when he was in office. It was the war. In retrospect, I think his chief crime was in believing McNamara. His decision not to run for a second term is also, I believe, an unprecedented move in American history.

You never really hear anyone mention Lyndon Johnson. Black citizens don't have his picture on the wall next to Kennedy, and Dr. King. But HE is the man who forced through the most important civil rights legislation in this country's history. He rose to it from a background that did not put the fire of civil rights in him. He did, in fact, what Kennedy, who had to be embarrassed into sending the National Guard to Alabama, would probably never have done, or wouldn't have done so quickly. And he did it, not for political gain, because there was none to be had, but because he knew it was right.

So we shouldn't trash the South because we've got some invertibrates slithering around on TV this week. Sessions represents one element of Texas politics, but Lyndon Johnson represented a strong tradition of Southern Democrats that isn't entirely dead.

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» Shame of LBJ is that Posted by: EncinoM
» RE: Shame of LBJ is that Posted by: Longdream
Schumer Plays Up Sotomayor’s Authoritarianism
Posted by: aahpat on Jul 15, 2009 6:57 PM   
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Schumer Plays Up Sotomayor’s Authoritarianism

"In his introductory comments at Monday’s hearing on prospective Supreme Court justice Sonia Sotamayor, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) boasted that over the course of her career, the nominee “ruled for the government in 83% of immigration cases, in 92% of criminal cases.” This apparently is a plus."
MORE

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OFF TOPIC: What is going on with firing at Progressive Caucus
Posted by: rjgwood on Jul 15, 2009 9:47 PM   
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Where the hell is the Progressive Caucus. We are trying to get a public option health care plan! No news media coverage EVER!

On July 9th, the Progressive Caucus fired its executive director. I found a snipet of the report on Huff post, and nothing anywhere else!

Rhonda

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She Didn't Say "Stary Stasis' on Everything Like Roberts
Posted by: nobyjingo on Jul 15, 2009 9:54 PM   
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I'm glad Judge Sotomayor carefully explained patiently instead of just saying she would follow "Stary Stasis" like Roberts did on everything. It is pretty plain that Judge Sotomayor will be a judge who will follow the law.

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Graham
Posted by: dkm on Jul 15, 2009 10:31 PM   
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Graham seems to be upset that she asks the lawyers questions that get to the heart of the matter which obviously some of them don't want to answer because there is no justification for what some of them are arguing. Isn't that what a capable judge would do? Shouldn't Graham be more worried about the bona fides of the judges who don't ask questions? Clarence Thomas comes to mind.

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» RE: Graham Posted by: Morell
Tom
Posted by: tkd82arty@netscape.net on Jul 16, 2009 1:26 AM   
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She's not a judge.

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» RE: Um, yes she is and Posted by: beijaflor
» RE: Tom Posted by: Morell
"Fidelity to the Law" is Authoritarianism
Posted by: aahpat on Jul 16, 2009 4:49 AM   
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Is not he same as dedication to justice.

The rule of law is not simplistically obeying the law. The rule of law is law tempered by justice.

"Fidelity to the Law" is nothing more than authoritarianism.

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» RE: Excellent response! Posted by: kogwonton
John's Saying Sotomayor Isn't *PURRRTY*, Like Stupid Sarah
Posted by: iolanthe on Jul 16, 2009 8:46 AM   
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What an absolute waste of space "John Winthrop" is. (What do you want to bet he actually has some ethnic name that embarrasses him, so he chose the most whitebread Anglo name he could think of.)

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What I want to know is...
Posted by: kogwonton on Jul 16, 2009 4:18 PM   
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What were the "10 Most Intelligent Things Republicans have said about the Sotomayor Hearings"?

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Wise Latinas deserve to make policy
Posted by: LillianB on Jul 16, 2009 7:32 PM   
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So while the wise Latina was evading answering questions from both parties Al Franken came on with a brilliant discussion of TV shows. If he or any caucasian male claimed his decisions would be better than a Latino woman he would have been run out on a rail. If Al Franken claimed that his role as a judge was to make policy then snickered that he wasn't suppose to admit that, he would have been run out on a rail. If Al Franken had blown off a reverse racism case as too insignificant he, like Sotomayer would be a hero.

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What you talkin bout Willis?
Posted by: AbundAnce on Jul 17, 2009 7:50 AM   
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I am sadly torn between outright laughter and supreme embarrassment over our elected officials in this country.

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The Nature of the Judicial Process
Posted by: Morell on Jul 17, 2009 1:37 PM   
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Ignorance seems to be running amok about the subject of the United States Supreme Court and the Justices who serve on it. Not only the Senators who are attacking the current nominee but also the nominee herself are contributing to this loathsome ignorance. First and foremost, at the level of the United States Supreme court, and in many appellate courts, cases worthy of appeal contain issues which are not squarely governed by existing precedent, much less constitutional or statutory text. To pretend otherwise, to pretend that judging is a mechanical exercise governed solely by text and precedent is to perpetrate more fraud on the public. Please, somebody, read Benjamin Cardozo's "Nature of the Judicial Process," and divest yourself of some of that ignorance. (If I recall correctly, there is a website which contains the text.) This professor, appellate judge, and Supreme Court Justice described his own process of deciding cases when precedent and text did not clearly govern the outcome. I am thoroughly disgusted with the Senators and the nominees who are engaging in a charade totally lacking in intellectual honesty. Unfortunately, if she dared to be honest about the sophisticated nature of deciding difficult cases, she would be pilloried and villified by the right wing.

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questions
Posted by: hahaho on Jul 30, 2009 8:49 AM   
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