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Will Revelations About Dick Cheney's Secret Programs Spell His Downfall?

By John Nichols, TheNation.com. Posted July 14, 2009.


Disclosures about Dick Cheney's secret counterterrorism program has even cautious Democrats suggesting Bush's VP may have clearly broken the law.
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Dick Cheney's accountability moment may finally be arriving.

After years of pulling punches, Democrats in the Senate are throwing them at Cheney, following the revelation that the man who operated as something akin to a co-president during George Bush's first term ordered the CIA to withhold information about a secret counterterrorism program from Congress.

There "absolutely" needs to be a Senate Intelligence Committee investigation of Cheney's assault on the system of checks and balances outlined in the essential sections of the US Constitution, argued Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Illinois).

"The executive branch of government cannot create programs like these programs and keep Congress in the dark. There is a requirement for disclosure," the chamber's number two Democrat said on ABC's This Week program. "(Any investigation) has to be done in an appropriate way so it doesn't jeopardize our national security, but to have a massive program that is concealed from the leaders in Congress is not only inappropriate; it could be illegal."

We have heard calls for investigations before.

But the former vice president's disregard for the vagaries of constitutional governance seems to have returned to haunt him.

So serious are the charges against Cheney that Senate Intelligence Committee chair Dianne Feinstein, the California Democrat who for too long worked too closely with the Bush-Cheney administration on so many issues, appears finally to be accepting that an inquiry is going to be required.

"This is a big problem, because the law is very clear," Feinstein said as the details of Cheney's wrongdoing began to come to light. "If the Intelligence Committees had been briefed, they could have asked for regular reports on the program, they could have made judgments about the program as it went along. That was not the case, because we were kept in the dark. That's something that should never, ever happen again."

The intelligence committee chair--whose power is usually matched only by her caution--bluntly suggested that Cheney had acted illegally.

"I think you weaken your case when you go outside the law," Feinstein said. "We should have been briefed before the commencement of this kind of sensitive program."

Of course, there will be push back from the defenders of the indefensible. "It is not out of the ordinary for the vice president to be involved in an issue like this," said Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl, (R-Arizona). Kyl point is well taken; the Arizonan has worked with several vice presidents who have been "involved in an issue like this." George Herbert Walker Bush was all wrapped up in the Iran-Contra scandal and Cheney's regard for the rule of law is so dismissive as to make him a prime suspect whenever a shredded copy of the Constitution is uncovered.

But the fact that the Congress failed to hold the elder Bush to account for his high crimes and misdemeanors does not absolve Cheney of responsibility for what he has done. Not, it should be noted, does it absolve Congress.

Durbin is precisely right when he says:

(We) know that Vice President Cheney played an unusual role with President Bush in the early days of the administration. That seemed to change over time.
But it is inappropriate for the vice president or the president to be ordering that a program be kept secret and not disclosed at the highest levels of congressional leadership.
We have to have a check and balance in our system. To give to the president unbridled power and authority goes way beyond what our Constitution has in mind.

That system of checks and balances has been battered to the breaking point over the past four years.

The process of restoring it will only be completed if those who were responsible for the battery are held to account. And the list of these wrongdoers begins with the name "Dick Cheney."


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John Nichols is Washington correspondent for The Nation and associate editor of The

Capital Times in Madison, Wisconsin. A co-founder of the media reform organization Free Press, Nichols is is co-author with Robert W. McChesney of Tragedy & Farce: How the American Media Sell Wars, Spin Elections, and Destroy Democracy - from The New Press. Nichols' latest book is The Genius of Impeachment: The Founders' Cure for Royalism.

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D. L. Sadler
Posted by: dlsoops on Jul 14, 2009 1:22 AM   
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Cheney's "downfall"? He's out of office. The only way farther down is jail, and Obama would not allow that. It's not anything like Spiro Agnew who was tossed from office. Just like during the Watergate Era when Cheney conned his way out of prosecution, nothing will happen, or if it does Cheney will end up in a posh minimum security facility off and on a heart monitor.

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» Nothing will happen.... Posted by: christee
» Jail time Posted by: tatamchwh
» White House criminals? Posted by: luzmejor
» RE: D. L. Sadler Posted by: timenotonmyside
Cheney
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jul 14, 2009 2:39 AM   
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"(Any investigation) has to be done in an appropriate way so it doesn't jeopardize our national security..."

Translation: "Yeah...We'll get right on that."

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» RE: Cheney An evil spirit Posted by: VZEQICVA
Just one more thing he WILL get away with. He got away with 9/11, so all else is child's play.
Posted by: pfgetty on Jul 14, 2009 2:45 AM   
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Really, none of this stuff is big enough to stick. And most of it he can blame on the emotional sting of 9/11. The media will soon just forget all of this, as they have the WMD issue, the torture issue, the wiretapping issu. All of it sounds sort of ok to most Americans, as long as the official story of 9/11 stands as truth and Cheyney says he was only trying to protect us.

So don't get your hopes up on this one. You ae wasting your time.

If you want to get Cheyney, go to 9/11. There are literally hundreds of bits of evidence that show that the official story is a lie. Contradictions, lying in testimony by officials, implausibilities and impossibilities. All of these bring us a well documented case that they lied and covered up the lies.
But one particular bit of evidence is truly damning proof: the find of nanothermite in the dust samples taken from the WTC collapse. Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan and seven others have presented a paper that shows that this nanothermite has been found, and show its properties. It is a unique type of explosive because it is only made in a few research centers, mostly tied to the US military. This particular nanothermite CAN be linked back to its makers. We are getting close. All we need is some pressure from the media to expose this information, and the story will break.

But Alternet won't go there. It has censored 9/11 information. The nanothermite in the dust may be one of the biggest stories of all time. And yet, nothing in the media. Odd? You bet. Suspicious, absolutely. Criminal conspiracy to block vital information from Americans? Yes.

C'mon, Alternet. If you really disdain the illegal wars, occupations, Constitutional gaffes, wiretapping, the Patriot Act, torture, etc, then present the evidence that proves 9/11 and the War on Terror to be fairytales.
You can do it. It is your responsibility. To do less borders on or is criminal behavior.

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» GuitarBill works for "Q" Posted by: pfgetty
» 911 denier propaganda DEBUNKED. Posted by: GuitarBill
» Quote mining again, conspiranoid? Posted by: GuitarBill
» Wow! I'm famous! Posted by: GuitarBill
» Let's consult "911bloggger.com". Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: hijacking alternet Posted by: clresu
» Quote mining again, conspiranoid? Posted by: GuitarBill
McCarthy said this
Posted by: Carts on Jul 14, 2009 3:18 AM   
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McCarthy was a scoundrel, and probably insane. But in 1951 he uttered words that can be safely said today by honest critics of the official version of the 9/11 attacks -- a version that is predicated on a large number of peculiar lapses by otherwise capable government officials. As McCarthy said to the America of George Bush's childhood:

"How can we account for our present situation unless we believe that men high in this government are concerting to deliver us to disaster? This must be the product of a great conspiracy on a scale so immense as to dwarf any previous such venture in the history of man. A conspiracy of infamy so black that, when it is finally exposed, its principals shall be forever deserving of the maledictions of all honest men."

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Cheney to be held accountable ? Not if Obama and his gang are shielding him !
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jul 14, 2009 3:31 AM   
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"Dick Cheney's accountability moment may finally be arriving...After years of pulling punches, Democrats in the Senate are throwing them at Cheney..."

- What a pathetic joke. This is nothing more than John Nichols & The Nation, performing their usual function as cheerleaders & whores for the Democratic Party.

AS IF "Democrats in the Senate" are about to "throw punches" at Cheney! If those scums were going to throw any punches at anyone, they'd throw them at people who are demanding accountability. Democrats are the PROTECTORS & ACCOMPLICES of types like Cheney -- not their opponents or prosecutors.

The balance was always against that creep. It's just that the Republicans and most Democrats made sure he was protected from being held accountable for his crimes and it's still going to happen. Expecting Cheney to be held accountable is like expecting Lucy not to pull the football away from Charlie Brown every time his foot is about to hit the football. The pols are the Lucys and we the electorate are the Charlies. :(

And even if Cheney is about to get it, Obama will grant him a big fat presidential pardon !

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» Banana Republic Posted by: SeattlePackedSnowandCollidedCars
911 Insider trading by CIA
Posted by: Carts on Jul 14, 2009 3:53 AM   
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Here's some obvious truth

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/ free/ww3/10_09_01_krongard.html

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» RE: GuitarBill Lacks Credibility Posted by: D. Shenary
» D. Shenary, you're rationalizing. Posted by: GuitarBill
BACK TO WHERE WE NEVER LEFT !
Posted by: TFYQA on Jul 14, 2009 4:58 AM   
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The INMATES : A SOAP MADE IN USA
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Humor is the politeness of despair said the optimist...

"Americans do not have the intellectual capacity to revolt. All you need to keep them pacified is to give them a dozen donuts & a gun ! - Max Keiser

AT LEAST WE KNOW WHO THE JOKE'S ON !

HALLIBURTON / KBR STEALING US BLIND !
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"People who shut their eyes to reality simply invite their own destruction, and anyone who insists on remaining in a state of innocence long after that innocence is dead turns himself into a monster." - James Baldwin

THE ANTITHESIS TO THIS REMARKABLE STATEMENT IS LESS POETIC BUT STILL SPOT ON ;)

"It"s here that the American dream decided it liked the taste of the vomit it was chocking on. Just rolled over on its back and screamed for more drugs. it didn't die." - Warren Ellis

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Waterboard Silverstein & Chenney
Posted by: weathered on Jul 14, 2009 5:29 AM   
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they've good blood all over their hands.

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» Any proof, Herr Dithered? Posted by: GuitarBill
» Grand Jury his sinister ass ! Posted by: weathered
Most people would think
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jul 14, 2009 5:54 AM   
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killing Al Queda operatives is a good thing. Hint: the sainted FDR authorized the OSS (look it up) to do this to (shh) Nazis. Don't tell any one. Fdr didn't tell Congress a blinking thing. In about his only successful counterinsurgency program in Vietnam, LBJ had William Colby run Operation Phoenix which worked on the micro level to off VC gunment. Much better that blasting the whole population with B52s. Assassination(or killing the enemy as it is more accurately called) works better than the high tech mass murder tecniques beloved by liberals like McNamara and his present incarnation, Barack Obama.


Now what do we tell that defense expert, Calfiornia fundraiser and professional amnesiac billionaire Nancy Pelosi? She has a big mouth, being such a classy dame, and even worse, a "confused' month.

What i wanna know is if Bush, Cheney or any of the incompentents working for them at the time, especially the idiot CIA Director Tenet, ever killed anybody. The worst have killed the least. Hitler, you were decorated for being a MESSENGER BOY during WWI. Sorry Schikelgruber, you were a wimp. No wonder you were so angry at the Jews who had many genuine German WWI heroes.

These frat boys talk big but a sunburn makes them faint. Dumbsfeld, refresh my drink old boy.

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» Hitler Posted by: zipper696
Old news
Posted by: joebanana on Jul 14, 2009 6:08 AM   
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I read about this last month on Abovetopsecret's web site. Ol' Leon should spend more time surfing, might keep him more up to date. And we know so much more too. like the spraying going on in Colombia, uh, it's also killing their food, and drinking wells, and remember "agent orange", well, your spraying pregnant woman, children, everything they touch, Duh. Or how about the "drug" plane you guy's shot down, only to find out it was a plane full of missionary's. Double duh. And so much more. Cheezy's hit squad is small potatoes compared to some of the crimes committed.

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About the Dickster
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jul 14, 2009 6:10 AM   
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I just heard on the tube the other day that Cheney's poll numbers have gone from the single digits to about thirty-six percent.

That can't be true, can it? The American people (even 36 % of them) can't possibly be that stupid.

Noe we know why Cheney and his lovely daughter (GAG!) have been making the talk show circuit in recent months. He knew damned well that the trillion dollar shit hammer was about to hit the fan and they had to take preemptive action.

Has it dawned on you yet how utterly contemptible these people are? Oh! Wait a minute! AlterNet! Of course you have!

The Implosion Continues

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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"Basically" and "So" = Treason
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jul 14, 2009 6:19 AM   
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Cheney has been admitting his Abuse of Power, Yet no one seems to care.
He clearly admits he only discussed the Basic details of the torture program to 'The Decider'- so he usurped the Presidency.
His reaction to the Demands of the American people to get out of Iraq, Was "So'. What elected official in a Democracy disregards the will of the People?
He even states quite proudly he has no regrets about any of the illegal and/or inhumane crimes he's committed! Absolutely NO Remorse!
Any Elected Public Servant who Fails to demand an investigation and Prosecution is admitting complicty and should be tried as an Co conspirator and accomplice.
Repugs Wanted to implicate Pelosi, but found they got no real reaction from Dems? Because Dems have been watching our 'leadership' not only cave to the Repug Criminality but Pave the way for it too.So Take Pelosi, and Feinstein, Down with you! Dems Allegience is to the Country- not any Politician, Office or Party.
All Branches and Agencies should be doing indepth investigations to assure the contamination has been sequestered and eliminated. All Three Branches have been implicated.Scalia's twisted logic regarding the 'difference' between punishment and torture sounds like the underlying basis of Yoo & Beybee briefs. The DOJ,The DOD, The CIA and the FBI should all be conducting investigations, not only to De- infestate their agencies of High crimes activities, but to regain some creditablity with the Citizenship They Serve.
Cheney,Rummy and Wolfie- along with their revoving door of minions- have been committing War Crimes, Crimes against Humanity and Treason for nearly 4 decades- It's time to prosecute and punish them, accordingly.

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same as it ever was, SAME AS IT EVER WAS
Posted by: we_need_Abe on Jul 14, 2009 6:19 AM   
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Yes, the Talking Heads had it right. The Senate is full of globalists who will only eat their own when absolutely necessary. Cheney has always had that smug look of an asshole who knows that nothing will happen because he's been around way too long not to know. The whole cabal needs to be tried for crimes against humanity, the problem is, humanity has no teeth.

Will we walk to our waiting train to the work camps or will we try and fight? That is the question.

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In A Word
Posted by: RevolutionNet on Jul 14, 2009 6:33 AM   
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No...


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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» Republic, not a democrary Posted by: tatamchwh
RE "We Need to Move Forward"
Posted by: Lilly on Jul 14, 2009 7:46 AM   
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The word is out that investigating, prosecuting, trying, sentencing, waterboarding, very slowly castrating, disemboweling, and garrotting Dick Cheney would not be productive because "we need to move forward". I find that a really interesting philosophy and suggest that it might be applied along the following lines:

1) Joe the Ski-Masked robbed a bank. What the hell, he's already spent the money. He probably won't do it again. Let's move forward.

2) Bob the Rapist raped six women, five of whom are now unwillingly pregnant. Naughty, naughty. Let's just move forward.

3) Sam the Home-Invader broke down the door, shot the dog, violated the grandmother, stole the valuables, tied up the whole family, and then cut everybody's throats. Let's let bygones be bygones. Why dwell on the past?

Saying "tsk tsk" at what Cheney did would permanently diminish our honor as a nation. I hope that the Congress will override Obama in every way possible and go after the worst criminal in American history.

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Spineless Democrats take a stand? Doubtful.
Posted by: Outspokengrandmother on Jul 14, 2009 8:41 AM   
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Democrats don't want to hold Cheney accountable, that would mean h holding themselves accountable. That might mean actually standing for Democracy. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Interesting
Posted by: Archie1954 on Jul 14, 2009 9:17 AM   
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that the only thing that gets the Congress worked up is the possibility of someone affecting their jurisdiction negatively. They couldn't care less about the worst kind of criminal activity on the part of the same parties, only Congress's own privileges are important to them. What a bunch of venal, selfish reprobates!

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Leave it alone! That was then.
Posted by: AJR Journal on Jul 14, 2009 9:19 AM   
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This is why we have elections.
Bush had one policy, Obama has a different policy.
Both policies are good-intentioned. Both policies seek to protect the United States of America. Situations change, policy changes.
If you make past policy prosecutable, every out-going administration will find itself facing charges. Malicious neglect, if nothing else.
This is terrible public policy.

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» Thank you, Polly-Anna Posted by: AJR Journal
» Polly-Anna was killed on 9/11 Posted by: weathered
The C-Team
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jul 14, 2009 1:49 PM   
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My guess, Cheney's assassination squad STILL reports to Cheney. Watch what you say, watch what you post here. Be afraid, be very afraid and paranoid.

Could this explain why Obama keeps trying to block investigations of Bush officials for war-crimes and other crimes? Could President Obama be fearing for his life?

Could members of Congress be afraid for their lives too? (I heard it mentioned that Wellstone's death may have been the work of the Cheney squad.) Maybe this PARTIALLY explains why Democrats are such cowards. Perhaps they don't want to go the way of Paul Wellstone. These aren't my theories, but they make some sense.

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"BOOK'IM, DANNO!"
Posted by: on Jul 14, 2009 4:57 PM   
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Arrest him (them), book him, charge him, put him in protective custody (no bail, never, ever), but don't (DO NOT!) tazer him –– we want him alive until the Life Sentence (w/o parole) and/or Death Sentence. Finally: Try Him (in public), soonest.
Keep him away from such things as, oh, microwaves, which might screw-up his pacemaker, or phone tap, or whatever the hell that bastard has in there. Again, we want him alive & threatening/lying/begging. Scared & caught –– hoisted on his own lying petard.
Et cetera.
If we can't bring these "wet ops" rascals & murderers "to justice," what CAN we do? Maybe attack another country? It's time everyone quit chickening out & investigate & charge Cheney & the rest –– incl. the dumbass Texan.
God, let's celebrate the day they haul him/them away!!!!
m. swof.

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Cheney for *** (fill in name of office)
Posted by: Lilly on Jul 14, 2009 5:35 PM   
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Just heard tonight that Liz Cheney intends to run for public office.

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» Liz Cheney would be Posted by: tatamchwh
They Have Already Led The Way To Avoid Investigation & Prosecution
Posted by: Brb007 on Jul 14, 2009 8:56 PM   
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This was taken from an AP article about Congress "laying groundwork" for investigating the CIA programs that Cheney ordered kept secret from Congress.

"The House Intelligence Committee will try to establish how much was spent on the effort, whether any training was conducted and whether any officials traveled in association with the program, a committee official said. Those factors would determine whether the program had progressed enough to warrant congressional notification, the official said."

There you have it! That paragraph sums up exactly how they will wimp out of an investigation, by using the BS rhetoric above to imply that so long as the programs were not implemented, it wasnt necessary to notify Congress. Constitutional scholars will readily state that these excuses are total hogwash. If they planned it, chose operatives and spent over a million bucks of taxpayer money in the process, as has been stated, it was mandatory to notify Congress and get input and approval from the Senate Intelligence Committee and leaders, regardless of whether they actually acted on any assassination attempts.

This is just another white wash way of allowing the laws to remain broken and the political criminals to go unscathed and unpunished, all while trying to brainwash the public into believing that intent and a fully operational plan without evidence of action is just fine and legally sound.

When a citizen hires a hitman to kill their ex-spouse, but are thwarted by an undercover police officer and a tape, they are sentenced to prison for planning, intent and conspiracy, even though they never had a chance to implement the plan. Why does our Government continue to keep functioning as though they are all above the law and entitled to special treatment? No other citizens of this country would ever be entitled to plan, finance and hire assassins, without being arrested once exposed.

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Our AG will Investigate-Unless We have a double standard of Justice in America?
Posted by: JohnHKennedy Denver CO on Jul 15, 2009 12:53 PM   
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"But the fact that the Congress failed to hold the elder Bush to account for his high crimes and misdemeanors does not absolve Cheney of responsibility for what he has done."

Unless WE Want to Risk Losing Our Democracy We'd better start prosecuting these instances of Presidential/Vice Presidential Violations of Federal Law and Constitution.

Unless We have a double standard of Justice in America that we the people didn't know about, or that Obama is now advocating, Our Democrats Must Investigate and Prosecute ALL That Violated Federal Laws or Constitution.

IT Will Not Happen Unless WE
make lots of noise.

SIGN THE PETITION
Demanding both a
Commission of Inquiry
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Forward this url to your friends
We can't let them bury these crimes.

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WHY
Posted by: wormfarmer on Jul 15, 2009 2:43 PM   
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do you "people", (and I'm being kind), waste your time antagonizing each other? Can there be something more rewarding than hammering away at a keyboard? GET A LIFE!

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The larger issues involved in assasinations
Posted by: The Cisco Kid on Jul 17, 2009 8:59 PM   
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My understanding is that those of us of the progressive persuasion have been advocating for years that rather than declare war on countries to combat terrorists we should view this as "police activities" for lack of a better phrase. I deliberately used the word "terrorists" rather than "terrorism" because fighting a war on "terrorism" would have no end. That vague term would allow an endless war point of view. Yes, I know we already have that, but let's not encourage it. "Terrorists" as least tries to limit the collateral damage.Don't you think that perhaps we should at least consider assasination as a distatesful but more humane option to invading entire countries with the staggaring lost of civilian lives and infrastructure? I'm asking, "What do we really mean when we say we advocate a police-like response rather than an invasion?" What would that look like? I seriously doubt that it would take the form of reading Bin Laden his Miranda rights. I think it's time we take this discussion a bit deeper.

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My guess
Posted by: hahaho on Jul 30, 2009 9:10 AM   
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My guess, Cheney's assassination squad STILL reports to Cheney. Watch what you say, watch what you post here. Be afraid, be very afraid and paranoid.links of london
tiffany

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