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What Do You Do With Father's Day When You Grew Up With a Deadbeat Dad?

By James Spooner, AlterNet. Posted June 20, 2009.


Father's Day, for me, is usually just a reminder of what should have been. But that's about to change.
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Father's Day: Probably up there with Secretary's Day as a holiday dud. There's no special dinner or prepackaged tradition, and unfortunately for me, no magical character at it's center.

Even for those of you lucky enough to have a dad worthy of celebration, society just doesn't put much stock in the celebration of Dad. The accepted tradition is to reward dads years of sacrifice with ... a tie.

Father's Days in my household came and went with relative ease. Some years, Dad lived in another country; others, another state. Even when he was simply across the Brooklyn Bridge, a begrudged well-wishing more than sufficed. I could have put some energy into a gift but, honestly, on any given year, out of his 20 children, I'm one of two or three who ever bothered to call. Even as a t'ween, I felt that was present enough.

So I would dial, hoping for the answering machine. Inescapably, some woman, wife number 3 ... 5 ... 7 -- who could keep track -- would answer. Never knowing who exactly I was talking to, I'd just mutter, "Is my dad there?" In a thick Caribbean accent, she would call for him and leave me suspended. As I waited, I often would imagine what he was doing -- lifting weights, waxing his car … "Oh, who cares?"

Eventually, he'd pick up. Quick, let me just give him what I dialed for ... "Happy Father's day, Dad!" Like clockwork, that would be his cue to respond, "And happy birthday … uh, how old are you now?" Sometimes he'd guess. He was usually a year off.

I was 2 days old on Father's Day 1976. Makes it pretty easy to remember. Maybe it's asking too much for him to call me first. He certainly never did.

We can't choose our dads. There are so many things I've wished he was there for; so many experiences I wished we could have had together. But, you know, a lot us have suck-ass ones. I'm not special for that.

Father's Day for me is usually just a reminder of what should be, but that's about to change. This time around, paternity shifts. Son soon becomes father.

I have a daughter on the way and, unlike my dad, I take fatherhood incredibly seriously. Whether she knows it or not, she can thank him for that. Sometimes the best examples are simply based on what not to do.

In a few years, when she is old enough to show me annual gratitude for a job well done, I'll proudly tighten that double Windsor, around my neck, kiss her little face and thank her for the opportunity to be the father I never had.

I write this sincerely to all the Rad Dads. Happy Father's Day.


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James Spooner wants you to know he's not always a drag. Read about the lighter side of fatherhood at his blog Pop 'n Bottles.

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Congratulations
Posted by: ZPaul on Jun 20, 2009 1:39 AM   
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Congratulations on becoming a dad.

You are obviously not satisfied with your own. I hope you're not terribly embittered and that you don't hate him, and I'm glad to see you have gotten on with your life.

I wish you all the best with your family.

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RE: Manipulative Shaming Language.
Posted by: pikaomega on Jun 20, 2009 4:51 AM   
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What?

"Stupid bitch" eh? Well, I hate to tell you this but dads DO have the choice to become a father. It's called sex. I just love how the right to choose to carry a child in one's own body, the right to personal sovereignty and the ability to make decisions that weigh the personal risks that come with pregnancy somehow always equates to the ability of men to drop any responsibility to the child that they have made.

If you don't want a kid, take the necessary steps not to have one. The right of a woman to determine whether or not to have a kid has absolutely nothing to do with your culpability in that child's beginnings. When you get pregnant then it's your choice. Till that day, man up and stop this false equivalency nonsense.

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» RE: Honkey's real issue... Posted by: LadyHeartland
» I'm still laughing... Posted by: indradawn
» RE: I'm still laughing... Posted by: rickiey
» RE: I'm still laughing... Posted by: medusa
» RE: I'm still laughing... Posted by: rickiey
» RE: Honkey's real issue... Posted by: rickiey
» Having a penis... Posted by: LadyHeartland
» RE: Having a penis... Posted by: rickiey
RE: Manipulative Shaming Language.
Posted by: Vinkenoog on Jun 20, 2009 6:38 AM   
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Grow up HNVII. Maybe it's not "fair" to force a man to pay for a child he didn't want but guess what? That's right...life isn't fair.

The fact is there are consequences to sex for both partners and if you can't deal with those consequences then don't have sex. Problem solved.

It isn't "fair" as far as I'm concerned that a woman and man can decide to have a child together and then the man can just take off and leave the woman to deal with it on her own. I believe that would be a man forcing a woman to finance THEIR decision. Do you consider the man her equal in that situation?

How 'bout if a woman is raped in a country where abortion is illegal and is forced to have the child...left to finance HIS decision?

Your vitriol leads me to believe that you made a mistake in your life and resent having to pay for it, but the person who is really paying for it is the unwanted child. A real man (or woman) will just shut up and do what's best for the kid regardless of how victimized they feel.

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» RE: I don’t care. Posted by: theblackgeorgecarlin
» RE: I don’t care. Posted by: Vinkenoog
RE: Manipulative Shaming Language.
Posted by: YogiBear on Jun 20, 2009 2:08 PM   
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Wow, Honky, everything is about you isn't it?

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Honky the masochist
Posted by: Borgar on Jun 20, 2009 2:09 PM   
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One thing I don't get is why does he keep coming back when it's obvious for all (even himself) that he is intellectually out of his league on Alternet? Most of these people are too intelligent, too reflected in their opinions, don't you see Honky? Or do you actually enjoy getting shoved a handful of pee-gravel up your nose every time. Is that the answer? Do you like being bitch slapped?

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» On second thought .. Posted by: Borgar
RE: Karen Decrow statement
Posted by: Fempatriot on Jun 20, 2009 2:16 PM   
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I agree with Karen Decrow--to a point. No man should have an adult female place the burden of fatherhood on him without his consent. Not so these men who seduce young girls, and men who refuse to do their part on birth control. I also believe that men should not be making laws that have anything to do with women's bodies or women's reproductive rights. Until a man has walked in a woman's shoes and given birth to an unwanted, unplanned child--men have no way of knowing how that feels, how it affects one's life. So I'm for cutting men some slack and demanding that they keep their mitts off my body when it comes to whether or not I give birth.

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RE: Manipulative Shaming Language.
Posted by: jarbo on Jun 21, 2009 5:02 PM   
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Folks, this person will always post something ridiculously extreme, provocative, and asinine.
To even get exercised over this stuff is pointless.
Kinda like the class clown or bully stirring up the s**t and looking for attention.
Save your ire - it's not worth the effort!

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If she can force you, that makes her superior to you
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Jun 22, 2009 10:46 PM   
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so bow down.

#@!

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RE: Manipulative Shaming Language.
Posted by: medusa on Jun 23, 2009 9:48 AM   
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I am glad that you're not my father. Matter of fact you couldn't ever measure up to my Dad. I was not his biologically but he loved me even so. My mother never believed he could love me (but then she was mentally ill) just because he was not my biological father. Like her, you will never know the real love of one person for another, regardless or in spite of blood. I pity any future wife you have.

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Honky and Rickiey--blame the Republicans
Posted by: Kelly on Jun 25, 2009 11:24 PM   
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Sorry you don't like child support; blame the republicans. There used to be this thing called welfare wherein fatherless children were supported by the government. In the name of "personal responsibility" welfare was gutted in favor of child support payments (which are often impossible to collect). You think mothers want to dick around with chasing their exes around to force them to support their kids? The old system was much friendlier to single mothers. TANF pays practically nothing, has a two-year limit, and requires even the mothers of newborns to place their children in sub-standard care and work 40 hours a week.

As for Rickiey's arguments about choice: you can't choose what goes on inside someone else's body. That is why men's choices end at the tip of their penises and women's extend into their wombs. Yes, that looks like women can make two sets of choices as opposed to men's single set. However, because of the sovereign integrity of another's body, one cannot legally choose to invade it. They routinely do this in China when a woman is caught pregnant above her limit, but nowhere else. You simply cannot choose what someone else does with their own body. That would be akin to my removing sperm from a man's body against their will in order to facilitate conception. Your argument is that men have a right to dictate what goes on inside the body of another. Nowhere is it codified that one person has the right to enter the body of another without their consent--and that includes removing a wanted fetus. If men gestated, then women would not be able to choose to force them to abort. Duh.

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Reconciled
Posted by: Artkansas on Jun 20, 2009 5:20 AM   
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Like the author's, my Dad was MIA for much of my childhood. Throughout my life, I've really felt the loss of his support in those days.

But as you become an adult, you have to take on the world as it is and go with what you got. And one thing about acceptance is to stop blaming.

And it means accepting my Dad as he is. He has grown as well, and we have managed to reestablish a relationship and get to know each other a little better.

He'll never be a Dad like the holiday portrays. I can't celebrate that. But at least we've reached out to heal the rift a little and to know each other as adults.

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» RE: econciled Posted by: VZEQICVA
another bastard
Posted by: SekhmetsatRa on Jun 20, 2009 5:22 AM   
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i too grew up not knowing my dad. i met him for the first time when i was 13. 15 years later, he wrote me off. he lives in italy. i have a legitimate half-brother. father's day is for my step-dad and uncles, not the sperm donor. my dad's mom still tries to include me, as does my half-brother. but my dad doesn't like me. or maybe it's that my husband told him off for flitting in and out. my husband is a real dad. father's day is also his

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Father Left at 10
Posted by: Careowhacked on Jun 20, 2009 7:13 AM   
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My father left when I was ten, and I have never heard from him again. Over the past 24 years I have tried to deal with this. I've been through the resentment, the self-blame, the acceptance. I have always let fathers day pass with a bit of sadness, reflecting on all the moments he missed, on how my life had been different if he could have dealt with his own problems rather than running from them.

I used to think I was a stronger person for my experience, but the emptiness of not knowing who I am is a direct consequence of his leaving. I struggle with the ghost of him everyday.

I long for even the dead beat dad, just to hear his voice once a year...

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» RE: Father Left at 10 Posted by: grangersmith
Deadbeat dads aren't only the ones who walk out
Posted by: Beadmaster on Jun 20, 2009 7:49 AM   
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My father was present and accounted for my whole life.

He was also an abusive father, who made my life so completely miserable, as an adult I ended up in an abusive relationship, with a spouse who forced me to live in poverty while I worked hard to save money to get us out of poverty. No help from my parents, who lived close by and didn't offer us a room in their home to help us save money without living in poverty. (And this would have been easy, because we had NO children.) After the divorce (abusive ex-spouse stole everything I had earned and saved in the bank in our joint account), I lived in poverty for many, many years, and my parents didn't do a single thing to help out. They inherited a relative's condo and thought about moving into it themselves (ultimately decided not to), but never offered it to me, though they knew I needed housing. They sold it to a stranger instead, pocketing the money and crying poverty.

This was back when I was on "good" terms with them, buying them lavish gifts for birthdays, mother's day, father's day, etc. In my pathetic way, I was trying to forge a new relationship, but they wanted to keep things status quo. I was good enough to give them nice gifts, things I could ill afford, but not good enough for them to help me out, even when asked.

Then I was homeless. They didn't help me. I dropped the relationship and haven't been back since. I'm sure some undeserving person is now in their will, but I won't kiss their behinds anymore. As much as I desperately need the money, it's not worth it.

And I don't send father's day or mother's day cards.

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Never Knew Him
Posted by: dumdumboy on Jun 20, 2009 8:39 AM   
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My father left when I was three. He came back once to visit, about 10 years after he left. I think it would have been best had he never come back.

Lydia Lunch once rapped about the "cycle of abuse," wherein children who are abused go on to abuse their own children. This is a fallacy. My two brothers, as well as myself, were all abused by our step-father, a drunken lout. Yet we have all become loving, caring fathers.

It is nice to read an article such as this one, to know that there are others with similar situations/outcomes.

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» RE: Never Knew Him Posted by: Amy27605
BA
Posted by: mnstra on Jun 20, 2009 9:02 AM   
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Nice article . One suggestion, Jim ,drop the term dead beat dad from your vocabulary. It is a derogatory description generated by the media to wage war on fathers who choose not to raise their children.Be careful not to internalize that concept.
I maintain that systems in The US are responsible for breaking up families.

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» mnstra, what do you mean? RE: BA Posted by: LadyHeartland
» "deadbeat" Posted by: YogiBear
Fathers
Posted by: Archie1954 on Jun 20, 2009 10:01 AM   
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Growing up I can't remember my father ever being there for any important event in my life. He wasn't present for any graduation, he never visited my school once in all the years I was learning my ABCs. He never taught me how to play ball or helped me with my homework (except once in 12 years which is why I remember it 50 years later). He never showed one moment of interest in anything I did. Actually I secretly believed he didn't like me. I moved out when I was 18 and left the country to live as far away as possible but my mother wouldn't allow my escape and moved the family right to where I was living in a foreign country. After that I just got used to ignoring my father in most cases. I later moved back to the country of my birth and lived apart from my family for many years while attending university. I would visit them twice a year usually, and would make sure I visited my father at the same time, as my parents has separated. However I was shocked when my father passed away and I flew down to attend the funeral. I walked in the chapel and noticed a blonde woman with at least six children all sitting in a pew and crying their eyes out. I asked my sister who they were and she said "Dad's mistress and her kids". I honestly could have fallen through the floor. I was quite angry that my family had never mentioned these people to me even once. I noted their genuine grief and I hoped that it was a sign that my father in his later years had reformed and acted as a genuine dad to these kids.

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Children are trophies.
Posted by: archives@uwyo.edu on Jun 20, 2009 10:48 AM   
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When they have hopes for you, it is just as bad, in its own way, as being neglected. The human race is not a bunch of moral actors, unless they can get some advantage from it.

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Don't do it because you think you'll be rewarded by children...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 20, 2009 11:31 AM   
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...or that your sacrifices will be recognized.

Do it simply because it's what you're supposed to do, and just assume that a difficult job well done will be your only reward.

Then, if you do happen to enjoy a bit of appreciation after your kids are adults, it will indeed feel a bit special.

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Cause to celebrate
Posted by: YogiBear on Jun 20, 2009 2:11 PM   
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Not growing up fatehrless. I mean feeling a ened to celebrate another bogus commercialized day. Mothers Day, Fathers Day, they're all about spending money.

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» RE: Cause to celebrate Posted by: VZEQICVA
and what do you do on mother's day when you had a mom who committed suicide?
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Jun 20, 2009 3:30 PM   
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Q: and what do you do on mother's day when you had a mom who committed suicide?

oh, and then there is her birthday, death day, MY birthday, blah blah.

A: you get over it and make the rest of your life as great as you possibly can.

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» how did i get over it? Posted by: veggiegrrrl
Appalled
Posted by: Lilly on Jun 20, 2009 10:43 PM   
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I am appalled by some of the posts to this thread. A father can "choose not to raise his child"? This is, what, a lifestyle choice? What choice does the child have about growing up feeling that he wasn't worth having a caring parent? As adults we may finally figure out that we weren't responsible for our crummy parent's absence, whether it was emotional or physical, but as children, we blamed ourselves because that is how children think. And to allow that to happen is inexcusable. To those men who plan to skip town after the hot and joyous night: have you considered keeping a Trojan in your wallet? Millions of men do this---what makes you so special that you don't have to bother?

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Notice that all through the media, nothing to respect fathers on this day. Instead Iran coverage.
Posted by: maxpayne on Jun 21, 2009 6:51 AM   
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Even on most of the progressive/liberal blogosphere, there is nothing but obsessive coverage of Iranian elections for a country we have no control over. If progressives/liberals had at least 80% of the respect for brothers and fathers that they have for mothers and sisters, they wouldn't be losing and desperately playing scramble with the "minority" and "gender" cards. I am sick and tired of rightwingers being male chauvenists and I am equally sick and tired of the other side going way too feminist. And while I do not appreciate people like Honky being way too extreme and misogynist, giving too much preference to one gender over the other will result in pathetic symptoms such as Honky. And if anyone thinks I'm a male hater or a female hater, you're deluded !

HAPPY FATHER'S DAY AND PEACE !

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I don't see how the author's dad was "deadbeat".
Posted by: CarlaWaters on Jun 21, 2009 7:32 AM   
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Just because the author's father didn't always answer doesn't mean he's "deadbeat". Maybe he wanted to catch up in life or just take a break from all of life's financial hells. If the author wants to talk about "deadbeat", here's my younger experience. I used to have an abusive father who abused and chained my mother and I when I was a young girl. It was only years after he had suffered in prison in chains that he felt completely regretful about his abusing us. Since there was no prison reform in the LA prisons, I think that he was spiritually reformed because when he was finally freed, he was completely different and almost a new person. My mother refused to believe him for a couple of years but eventually they got back and remarried. She even told me that they had never fallen in love like this before. From that year onward, Father's Day took on a new meaning in my life. He was never abusive or mean from that time onwards up to this day. We live in a society where Mars rules in terms of the military industrial complex and where Mammons rule in terms of Wall Street. Put war and greed together and no wonder people can be strained to the point of growing bitter and even insane.

Speaking of Father's Day, why aren't our leaders in Washington acting like real fathers and mothers in governing? Instead, they're the ones acting like dead beat sellouts as if it's one gang leader doing business with another at the victim's expense.

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What Tolstoy said?
Posted by: justAnEgg on Jun 21, 2009 7:52 AM   
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I'm paraphrasing: "All families are happy the same way, but each family is unhappy in its own, unique, way."

Gee, it's huge, this subject of fatherhood. I've been both a fatherless son AND a father to a son I had to "abandon" for several years, due to the four-year war back in the country I came from.

My parents parted from each other when I was half a year old, leaving my mother with two sons on her hands. Father thoroughly vanished, never sent a card, let alone contributed by any means to the raising of his two children.

But later on, due to the circumstances, I had to live with my father and step-mother for two years, at the age of ten and eleven. I wish I never did: he was abusive, dry, "principled", little tyrant. During those two years, I'd spent two summers at my grandpa's and found out that he was the same kind of a little tyrant. Luckily, my mother was able to take me back to live with her again.

Now, the interesting part: my older brother was - surprize! - a cloned copy of our ancestors on the father's side. He made my childhood a bitter experience, and even tried to terrorize me when we grew up.

My point is: we were raised in the same environment, under same circumstances, by the same people - yet, we developed into two completely different personalities, which inevitably makes me think that genetics is the primary factor in our forming as human and social beings. Everything else - social impact, education, even amount of love we do/don't get - could only slightly modify the basic (neurological) skeleton we're cursed or gifted with at the moment of our conception.

I'll finish with "and they lived happily ever after": my son is 29 now, still living back in Bosnia. He graduated from local University, got married two years ago, and I'm a grandpa myself now. Niether my son nor his wife have a steady job, due to a catastrophic unemployment rate (48%!) over there but, hey!, who cares as long as I have a steady job and am able to support them. My son works odd jobs when he can get one, being a responsible young man he is, but even so he has a heavy burden of guilt for not being able to sustain his family. I'm doing all I can to unload that burden off his shoulders.

Why I'm saying all of this? Well, I'm trying to find out what is it that makes us responsible or irresponsible parents. I strongly believe it's not a matter of our choosing one way or another, it's about instincts more than anything else. My fear is that modern societies kill those healthy instincts even in people born with them.

Anyway, I never missed my father and, above all, I'm happy my fatherly instincts survived.

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It's all a matter of expectations and balancing it all out without conceding of course.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jun 21, 2009 11:50 AM   
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Before I discuss my take on expecatations, I have read all the comments so far and I am sorry that some of you did not have a good father and I don't blame you in your cases. I am guessing that there was no working out a fair deal. It was "do this or else" mentality that made matters worse. My parents would humiliate me from time to time if I did not conform but not go outright cruel and abusive. I wish you all the best of luck out there.

We all have so much to expect from our mothers and fathers as do they from us. Some expect less while others expect more. I am not so sure that the author and his father ever got to sit down and take the time to work out what they were looking forward to from each other in life even when they had the chance to do so. Despite that, I am glad to see that this author is forgiving and having learned his lessons, is choosing to be a better father and not put his children through confusion in life. Sometimes, however, dramatic events in life can change demands and expecations. If something dramatic in life had happened to the author or his father, in most cases, the parents and children will be more united. Even my conservative parents had a heart after my father rescued me from almost getting mugged by a bad date. He was compassionate enough about single payer health care after watching his nephew struggle through unemployment and no healthcare coverage when he needed it the most but even more compassionate about single payer health care after I was ill for a month and then recovered as he worried about my company's insurance company getting their billing and coverage done correctly and not leaving me with higher copays. And a week after I recovered, even after my car broke down on the highway with the engine almost exploding, all he cares about is not that I hurry up and get married but that I'm happy and healthy. He does admire my courage too and hopes I keep that up as well. In fact, since I did have some success to show for putting studying and career over dating and marriage first, he's proud of it. Therefore, I still don't think we should hate our parents unless they really show their meanness.

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forgive....
Posted by: 11michael11 on Jun 21, 2009 12:51 PM   
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not for his sake, for yours. I was a latchkey kid, raised by a single working poor Mom with a sad and sorry history of abusive men, poor choices and prescription drug addiction.She was dealt shitty cards,but like all real players she stayed in the game,doing her best. She's eighty now, lives with me and her dementia. Every movie we watch on tv is new to her. Time after time after time. I wasted decades despising my father for what he wasn't. That free floating rage has poisoned my life beyond the telling.All for nothing.All for a lack of awareness and compassion. I weep when I reflect upon how poorly I've loved.How poorly I've repaid all that is for her love and affection and kindness and breath and beauty. I wish I could love the world the way she loves us. Summer solstice tonight. I think the ultimate proof that the universe is good and just and benevolent is the cyclical nature of time. Unlimited do overs. How's that for love? I'm fifty eight now and still a shabby work in progress.Never had children. Never wanted to be a father.Just assumed I'd be like mine. Wherever you are tonight Aaron Wallace Solliday I wish you love and peace and happiness.I miss you. Forgive me Dad....your son,Michael

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The myth of the happy family...
Posted by: Smartcookie on Jun 22, 2009 12:54 AM   
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... the truth is your family dynamics is a genetic, historical and cultural lottery.

My family was awful:

Religious mother
European father

They have nothing in common and it is a loveless marriage of convenience for two workaholics who let the state raise their
children.

My mother was a cold distant workaholic, my father, an absentee authoritarian european parent.

My brother and sister and I all barely get along.

While some families are happy, many families are families of strangers/acquaintences who happen to live under the same roof, in which their is no genuine mutual love for one another.

Quite frankly I wish we had 'parenting' as a profession and which you needed to pass exams before you could even begin to have kids or raise them. Many society problems come from allowing people who shouldn't be having kids to have kids and the environment these kids grow up in is emotionally bereft of anything that is healthy for the kids or the parents.

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What Do You Do With Father's Day When You Grew Up With a Deadbeat Dad?
Posted by: LostInAmerica on Jun 23, 2009 2:21 PM   
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What Do You Do With Father's Day When You Grew Up With an Abusive Dad?

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