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Report: Unreleased Abu Ghraib Abuse Photos 'Show Rape'
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At least one picture shows an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner while another is said to show a male translator raping a male detainee.
Further photographs are said to depict sexual assaults on prisoners with objects including a truncheon, wire and a phosphorescent tube.
Another apparently shows a female prisoner having her clothing forcibly removed to expose her breasts.
Detail of the content emerged from Major General Antonio Taguba, the former army officer who conducted an inquiry into the Abu Ghraib jail in Iraq.
Allegations of rape and abuse were included in his 2004 report but the fact there were photographs was never revealed. He has now confirmed their existence in an interview with the Daily Telegraph.
The graphic nature of some of the images may explain the U.S. President's attempts to block the release of an estimated 2,000 photographs from prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan despite an earlier promise to allow them to be published.
Maj. Gen Taguba, who retired in January 2007, said he supported the President's decision, adding: "These pictures show torture, abuse, rape and every indecency.
"I am not sure what purpose their release would serve other than a legal one and the consequence would be to imperil our troops, the only protectors of our foreign policy, when we most need them, and British troops who are trying to build security in Afghanistan.
"The mere description of these pictures is horrendous enough, take my word for it."
In April, Mr. Obama's administration said the photographs would be released and it would be "pointless to appeal" against a court judgment in favor of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
But after lobbying from senior military figures, Mr. Obama changed his mind saying they could put the safety of troops at risk.
Earlier this month, he said: "The most direct consequence of releasing them, I believe, would be to inflame anti-American public opinion and to put our troops in greater danger."
It was thought the images were similar to those leaked five years ago, which showed naked and bloody prisoners being intimidated by dogs, dragged around on a leash, piled into a human pyramid and hooded and attached to wires.
Mr. Obama seemed to reinforce that view by adding: "I want to emphasize that these photos that were requested in this case are not particularly sensational, especially when compared to the painful images that we remember from Abu Ghraib."
The latest photographs relate to 400 cases of alleged abuse between 2001 and 2005 in Abu Ghraib and six other prisons. Mr. Obama said the individuals involved had been "identified, and appropriate actions" taken.
Maj Gen Taguba's internal inquiry into the abuse at Abu Ghraib, included sworn statements by 13 detainees, which, he said in the report, he found "credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses."
Among the graphic statements, which were later released under U.S. Freedom of Information laws, is that of Kasim Mehaddi Hilas in which he says: "I saw [name of a translator] ******* a kid, his age would be about 15 to 18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn't covered and I saw [name] who was wearing the military uniform, putting his **** in the little kid's ***…. and the female soldier was taking pictures."
The translator was an American Egyptian who is now the subject of a civil court case in the U.S.
Three detainees, including the alleged victim, refer to the use of a phosphorescent tube in the sexual abuse and another to the use of wire, while the victim also refers to part of a policeman's "stick" all of which were apparently photographed.
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Posted by: QQOblivion on May 28, 2009 7:32 AM
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They are free to spout their torture-is-good crap in the US media, and their popularity is actually increasing among the American public as we speak.
As I said before, waterboarding is NOT the worst of the abuse suffered!
People have had their genitals mutilated. Even CHILDREN have been tortured by the US.
This is evil beyond all other evils. The longer the world has to guess what is in those photos, the more danger our troops will be in.
Expose the truth, Obama! Punish the perpe-TRAITORS!
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Posted by: QQOblivion on May 28, 2009 7:33 AM
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Posted by: Defenestrator on May 28, 2009 8:47 AM
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If the goal is to see criminals from our government in jail, there's no need to pretend that you know something about nanothermite. Direct, uncontroversial evidence is all around you. But torturing Muslims isn't nearly as sexy as secret agents and secret plots.
Conspiracy theories drag down the effectiveness of the American Left.
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Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on May 28, 2009 8:48 AM
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We have committed too many atrocities in too many places. Where to begin? Should I talk about the death-squads we unleashed on Nicaragua, who raped and murdered with impunity?
Americans don't give a damn. The only reason Americans are opposed to Iraq war is because of the economy.
These war crimes will be brushed aside by the majority as the acts of "few bad apples."
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Posted by: peaceia85 on May 28, 2009 9:57 AM
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Arabs and Muslims know it. American people would be last to know.
It is not the release of the photos. it is that the RAPISTS are still at large. The commanders who ordered it or made possible.
Lyndie England is out and about looking for a date. The prisoners who died in custody (at least a 100, according to NYT Tom Friedman) are not coming back.
Graner of Abu Graib will be offered parole soon.
No body paid a price for this.
Terrorism will remain with us as long as we continue to think we are entitled to do these things.
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Posted by: Sister_Lauren on May 28, 2009 10:02 AM
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If you want to see pictures, Andrew Sullivan has a link to a site on his blog, linked text and Kos has a poll,
U.S. General Says Bush Admin Committed War Crimes
98% of people want want investigations of war crimes in Iraq.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on May 28, 2009 10:59 AM
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But it could equally apply here.
I am quite shocked - not just by the Torture - but by the fact that so many photographs were taken.
That to me means that an exceedingly large number of Americans had no shame at their actions - and were even proud of them.
I think this is a direct result of the sheer hatred towards Muslims that the vast majority of Americans felt because of 9/11.
Americans appear to have been de-humanised in a similar way that Germans were under Nazi rule. There the hatred was directed towards Jews.
Tony
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Posted by: bonapartist on May 28, 2009 1:13 PM
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Yes, yes, not particualry sensational. Of course if his two daughters were raped in such conditions he would probably have a different opinion. Not to mention official US medias would cry to high heaven if enemy military personnel was treating US prisoners in such a way.
According to the current US mongrel-in-chief the proper actions has been taken. Like what? The perpetrators were knocked down a few postions on a list of promotions? Their pay was witheld for three months? Patting on the back from like-minded individuals for dealing the "right" way with ragheads/sand niggers/camel humpers probably more than made out for it.
You know how it is. The poor boys were under combat stress, the muslims are horrid tot heir women, Saddam had WMDs, if we leave now more will die yadda-yadda.
Not to mention reports like this serve as a perfect motivation for anti-american sentiments. If you are an Iraqi this adds yet another reason to go out and kill the first devil in US uniform. And rightly so.
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Posted by: Sister_Lauren on May 28, 2009 1:42 PM
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It's good that we're not torturing anymore. But let us not forget the wretched feeling of watching 3,000 Americans die at the hands of fanatics who would happily detonate a nuclear bomb.
Tell me how the subject of this sentence isn't pure speculation, propaganda or gossip? Who is he calling a 'fanatic'?
I would like to know! He is not making it clear at all who he is referring to or what evidence there is of this charge. It is left very open...
Is that journalism? I'm not sure it is even opinion, it might just be racism with a little sugar coating. I'm not sure what it is. He then goes on to make light of torture. Anybody that does that is automatically suspect.
I think this guy is a complete Bozo, naturally there is no email address for him on his website, only his editor. Doesn't that just reek of serious control issues? It does to me.
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Posted by: RegK on May 28, 2009 2:02 PM
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I have a word for that. It's "FASCISM".
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Posted by: Sister_Lauren on May 28, 2009 3:01 PM
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Rumsfeld: Worst Still To Come
It is instructive to see the weasel at work now that we all know what is what. Check out how his eyes are shifting.
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Posted by: peaceia85 on May 28, 2009 3:54 PM
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We need to confront this as a nation. It does not put our troops at risk if we take appropriate actions.
We can not hide this in this media age..
The truth will set us free..
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Posted by: DrBrian on May 28, 2009 4:42 PM
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Justice must be done, and be seen to be done. Obama's connivance and conspiracy to obstruct justice merely compounds the effect and makes him an accessory after the fact. Articulate Obama may be, but all his lies, evasions, sophistry and charm can't hide the ugly truth.
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Posted by: Jeanne on May 28, 2009 7:59 PM
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"Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? ... They are in total terror it's going
to come out." –
Seymour Hersh, July 7, 2004
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Posted by: undead on May 29, 2009 7:32 PM
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Now with Obama, they are taking the last of your respect and dignity, the last of the treasury, and the last of your rights.
They ruling elite have it all. Now they don't need your pathetic weak ass. You are expendable.
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Posted by: sleepingdog on May 30, 2009 12:10 AM
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can the whole world see this land of the free? we were the heroes and the beacon of hope, not anymore. and we sacrificed all this for a few old men.
there was a good way out of this for everyone; admit that it was wrong and horrible. say that you've sacrificed your own freedom, by breaking the law, in order to preserve ours. but no. it's just excuses and the sad justifications for torture.
good luck to the world, we've signed off.
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Posted by: QQOblivion on May 28, 2009 7:32 AM
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They are free to spout their torture-is-good crap in the US media, and their popularity is actually increasing among the American public as we speak.
As I said before, waterboarding is NOT the worst of the abuse suffered!
People have had their genitals mutilated. Even CHILDREN have been tortured by the US.
This is evil beyond all other evils. The longer the world has to guess what is in those photos, the more danger our troops will be in.
Expose the truth, Obama! Punish the perpe-TRAITORS!
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Posted by: Defenestrator on May 28, 2009 8:47 AM
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If the goal is to see criminals from our government in jail, there's no need to pretend that you know something about nanothermite. Direct, uncontroversial evidence is all around you. But torturing Muslims isn't nearly as sexy as secret agents and secret plots.
Conspiracy theories drag down the effectiveness of the American Left.
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Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on May 28, 2009 8:48 AM
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We have committed too many atrocities in too many places. Where to begin? Should I talk about the death-squads we unleashed on Nicaragua, who raped and murdered with impunity?
Americans don't give a damn. The only reason Americans are opposed to Iraq war is because of the economy.
These war crimes will be brushed aside by the majority as the acts of "few bad apples."
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Posted by: peaceia85 on May 28, 2009 9:57 AM
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Arabs and Muslims know it. American people would be last to know.
It is not the release of the photos. it is that the RAPISTS are still at large. The commanders who ordered it or made possible.
Lyndie England is out and about looking for a date. The prisoners who died in custody (at least a 100, according to NYT Tom Friedman) are not coming back.
Graner of Abu Graib will be offered parole soon.
No body paid a price for this.
Terrorism will remain with us as long as we continue to think we are entitled to do these things.
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Posted by: Southern Gal on May 28, 2009 10:00 AM
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Posted by: Sister_Lauren on May 28, 2009 10:02 AM
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If you want to see pictures, Andrew Sullivan has a link to a site on his blog, linked text and Kos has a poll,
U.S. General Says Bush Admin Committed War Crimes
98% of people want want investigations of war crimes in Iraq.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on May 28, 2009 10:59 AM
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But it could equally apply here.
I am quite shocked - not just by the Torture - but by the fact that so many photographs were taken.
That to me means that an exceedingly large number of Americans had no shame at their actions - and were even proud of them.
I think this is a direct result of the sheer hatred towards Muslims that the vast majority of Americans felt because of 9/11.
Americans appear to have been de-humanised in a similar way that Germans were under Nazi rule. There the hatred was directed towards Jews.
Tony
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Posted by: bonapartist on May 28, 2009 1:13 PM
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Yes, yes, not particualry sensational. Of course if his two daughters were raped in such conditions he would probably have a different opinion. Not to mention official US medias would cry to high heaven if enemy military personnel was treating US prisoners in such a way.
According to the current US mongrel-in-chief the proper actions has been taken. Like what? The perpetrators were knocked down a few postions on a list of promotions? Their pay was witheld for three months? Patting on the back from like-minded individuals for dealing the "right" way with ragheads/sand niggers/camel humpers probably more than made out for it.
You know how it is. The poor boys were under combat stress, the muslims are horrid tot heir women, Saddam had WMDs, if we leave now more will die yadda-yadda.
Not to mention reports like this serve as a perfect motivation for anti-american sentiments. If you are an Iraqi this adds yet another reason to go out and kill the first devil in US uniform. And rightly so.
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Posted by: Sister_Lauren on May 28, 2009 1:42 PM
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It's good that we're not torturing anymore. But let us not forget the wretched feeling of watching 3,000 Americans die at the hands of fanatics who would happily detonate a nuclear bomb.
Tell me how the subject of this sentence isn't pure speculation, propaganda or gossip? Who is he calling a 'fanatic'?
I would like to know! He is not making it clear at all who he is referring to or what evidence there is of this charge. It is left very open...
Is that journalism? I'm not sure it is even opinion, it might just be racism with a little sugar coating. I'm not sure what it is. He then goes on to make light of torture. Anybody that does that is automatically suspect.
I think this guy is a complete Bozo, naturally there is no email address for him on his website, only his editor. Doesn't that just reek of serious control issues? It does to me.
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Posted by: RegK on May 28, 2009 2:02 PM
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I have a word for that. It's "FASCISM".
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Posted by: Sister_Lauren on May 28, 2009 3:01 PM
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Rumsfeld: Worst Still To Come
It is instructive to see the weasel at work now that we all know what is what. Check out how his eyes are shifting.
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Posted by: peaceia85 on May 28, 2009 3:54 PM
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We need to confront this as a nation. It does not put our troops at risk if we take appropriate actions.
We can not hide this in this media age..
The truth will set us free..
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Posted by: DrBrian on May 28, 2009 4:42 PM
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Justice must be done, and be seen to be done. Obama's connivance and conspiracy to obstruct justice merely compounds the effect and makes him an accessory after the fact. Articulate Obama may be, but all his lies, evasions, sophistry and charm can't hide the ugly truth.
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» Sounds like another conspiracy therory to me.
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» RE: Obama will do what the people demand
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Posted by: Jeanne on May 28, 2009 7:59 PM
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"Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? ... They are in total terror it's going
to come out." –
Seymour Hersh, July 7, 2004
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» RE: At least require investigation
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Posted by: undead on May 29, 2009 7:32 PM
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Now with Obama, they are taking the last of your respect and dignity, the last of the treasury, and the last of your rights.
They ruling elite have it all. Now they don't need your pathetic weak ass. You are expendable.
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Posted by: Daito on May 29, 2009 9:33 PM
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» RE: It could have just been Consensual sex
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Posted by: RegK on May 29, 2009 10:42 PM
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Posted by: sleepingdog on May 30, 2009 12:10 AM
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can the whole world see this land of the free? we were the heroes and the beacon of hope, not anymore. and we sacrificed all this for a few old men.
there was a good way out of this for everyone; admit that it was wrong and horrible. say that you've sacrificed your own freedom, by breaking the law, in order to preserve ours. but no. it's just excuses and the sad justifications for torture.
good luck to the world, we've signed off.
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