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Canadians Take Notice, the U.S. Is Militarizing the Border
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DETROIT – About 50 feet before a car from Canada reaches the border inspection booth, the screenings begin.
A camera snaps your license plate.
An electronic card reader mounted on a yellow post scans your car for the presence of any radio-frequency ID cards inside. If there is an enhanced driver's license embedded with biometric information, its unique PIN number is read without you offering it.
The Customs and Border Protection computer connects with your province's database and in less than a second – .56 to be exact – your personal information is uploaded to a screen in the booth. A second camera snaps the driver's face.
Welcome to the United States of America.
If Canadians were under the impression that the Canada-loving U.S. President Barack Obama would heed pleas to loosen border controls to ease trade and traffic, there should no longer be any confusion. He has not.
Beginning June 1, you'd better have that passport ready. Or if you have an enhanced driver's licence from British Columbia, Manitoba or Quebec, make sure it's in your wallet, ready to show. (Ontario is now processing applications for the cards.)
Some Canadian MPs, border state lawmakers and Detroit-Windsor area businesses expect the worst when the new controls kick in.
"Either it's going to cause a massive backup, or it's going to cause a dramatic decrease in travellers across the border, or it's going to cause both," says Melissa Roy of the Detroit Regional Chamber, the largest chamber of commerce organization in the U.S. "It's an absolute nightmare."
Obama's top officials - Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton - signed off long ago on the June 1 deadline for the infamous Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative. That's the George W. Bush-era policy that Congress pushed through under the 9/11 intelligence reform bill, which requires every person entering the United States by air, sea or land to carry a passport or U.S. government-approved secure identity document.
Napolitano says Canadians had better get used to it. "The future is that there will be a real border," she told a trade group last month.
This is what that border already looks like:
A post-mounted scanner screens your vehicle for radioactive material that could be used to build a "dirty bomb" - a probe so sensitive it will detect if you've recently had a medical test that used isotopes.
As you pull up to the booth, a computer monitor may be filling with information about you, even before the guard asks, "Where are you coming from? What's your citizenship? Where are you headed? Why?"
If a border lookout, arrest warrant or criminal record pops up on the guard's screen, or if something doesn't quite add up - maybe you're sweating bullets on a cold day - expect to get hauled over for a secondary inspection.
The port of entry at the Ambassador Bridge in Detroit - the busiest commercial land crossing in North America, through which a quarter of all Canada-U.S. trade passes - has strict controls, as does the Detroit-Windsor tunnel.
Border agents, packing pepper spray, collapsible batons and 9-mm automatic pistols, are the first point of contact for people and cargo alike. Sometimes their supervisors order vehicle sweeps at random. Then for 30 minutes, agents will pop every trunk, just for a look-see.
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Posted by: shellius on May 26, 2009 2:15 AM
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» RE: Soon we can isolate ourselves like North Korea. Police state-R-us.
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» It's not so bad with blindfolders!
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» RE: It's not so bad with blindfolders!
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» RE: shellius: someone coming across that border who should not
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» RE: Why is this bad?
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» RE: Why is this bad?
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» People with weak values
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» Yes, since different States have different laws we should have borders between states too.
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» RE: Yes, since different States have different laws we should have borders between states too.
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» RE: Yes, since different States have different laws we should have borders between states too.
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» RE: Why is this bad?
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» RE: Why is this bad?
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» RE: Why is this bad?
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» RE: Why is this bad?
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» the walls aren't to keep AMERICANS SAFE but to LOCK YOU IN
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» RE: Why is this bad?
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Posted by: GerryAttric on May 26, 2009 2:26 AM
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Let's see there was Johnson and the bullshit self inflicted Gulf of Tonkin incident which was used to launch American involvment in Vietnam, Nixon and watergate, the My Lai massacre coverup and bombing Cambodia leading to the rise of the Kyhmer Rouge, Reagan and the Iran contra scandal as well as selling arms to both Iraq and Iran while they were at war with each other, HW who manipulated the middle east into a conflict that need not happen due to sheer stupidity, Bill "I did not have sex with her" Clinton and the whitewater whitewash, GW, who's crimes and crap are too numerous to list but let's not foget that 9/11 happened on his watch while he was sleeping, and then there is Barack "Change you can believe in but will never come" Obama who is breaking his promises each and every day. And after watching a nation fall to pieces after an unsuccessful invasion of Afghanistan and a surge failure in Iraq he goes ahead and reapeats the last 6 years of bush war failure in Afghanistan. So that leaves Ford and Carter who did nothing seriouly scandalous out of all the Presidents since Kennedy.
That's quite a record you folks have there.
The rest of the world is not having the same discourse as American citizens are. While you folks all debate the legality and relative merits of America committing war crimes like toture and holding noone responsible, we all KNOW your country is imperialist and guilty many times over of WAR CRIMES and want the guilty prosecuted.
We won't hold our breath!
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» Just "rise"? of the Khmer Rouge?
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» Carter - nothing serious?
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» RE: Carter - nothing serious?
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» Clinton? Just "Whitewater" and Monica?
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» RE: Clinton? Just "Whitewater" and Monica?
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» RE: We noticed 8 years ago! The new Soviet Union is rising!
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Posted by: morgan1 on May 26, 2009 5:25 AM
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Posted by: aahpat on May 26, 2009 5:40 AM
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America's motto used to be 'land of the free home of the brave'.
Today America's motto is 'This is America, come out with your hands up'.
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» "This is America, come out with your hands up"
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Posted by: hirondelle on May 26, 2009 6:28 AM
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Maybe they are building all of this stuff to keep us in?
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» Merkins want out
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» RE: Scarey... but for the wrong reasons
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» RE: Scarey... but for the wrong reasons
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» RE: Scarey... but for the wrong reasons
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Posted by: newsound on May 26, 2009 6:34 AM
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Going into the States, you are often confronted by Nazi-like zealots who talk to you like you're in boot camp. The general feeling is that you are a suspect just for wanting to enter their arrogant and and paranoid country.
Entering Canada is totally different . . . how long are you staying? . . . do you have any cigarettes or alcohol? . . . have a nice stay. They actually smile and sometimes even carry an actual conversation. That's the way it is up here.
It has gotten to the point where the U.S. treats EVERYONE . . . even its own citizens like terrorists. After all - this is a country that is always overreacting instead of acting. A country that denies equal rights to some of its citizens, mostly out of fear. A country frightened by hair gel on planes. One big, very scared gated community.
Obama and change . . . so far, I don't think so.
Still glad to be here.
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» Airports are worse if you're a tourist...
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» RE: Airports are worse ... great post!
Posted by: miles_ahead
» Orange level
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» RE: Airports are worse if you're a tourist...
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» WITH AN ATTITUDE LIKE YOURS, I'M GLAD TO HAVE YOU STAY THERE
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» i think you just made newsound's point...
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» RE: WE ARE FRIENDLY IRIS...EXCEPT...
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» RE: WITH AN ATTITUDE LIKE YOURS, I'M GLAD TO HAVE YOU STAY THERE
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» It's happening on the Canadian side, too.
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» RE: It's happening on the Canadian side, too.
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» Two things: American pressure and a Conservative government
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» RE: Two things: American pressure and a Conservative government
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» RE: It's happening on the Canadian side, too.
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» That's because the *American* 'security culture'
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Posted by: garyfee on May 26, 2009 6:49 AM
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» If I was Canadian
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» Touche
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Posted by: avidAmerican on May 26, 2009 7:37 AM
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» RE: SO WHAT? IT'S OUR SIDE OF THE BORDER, NOT CANADAS' AND
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» RE: Policing for what exactly?
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» RE: SO WHAT? IT'S OUR SIDE OF THE BORDER, NOT CANADAS' AND
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» RE: SO WHAT? IT'S OUR SIDE OF THE BORDER, NOT CANADAS' AND
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» fear the GAY WEDDINGS & *single payer healthcare*
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» RE: fear the GAY WEDDINGS & *single payer healthcare*
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Posted by: Bizatch! on May 26, 2009 7:59 AM
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Now that I'm underemployed and preparing for the cool-down phase of globalization, I realize that coming back to Canada is the best thing I could have done for myself. After having my heart diagnosed with a faulty valve, I got an operation within a few months, only having to pay for my medication (I have no personal insurance whatsoever). Few people in America truly understand the duplicity that critics of health care reform are using to convince them to keep what they've got.
I will come across as a pompous ass writing as I am about the follies of hard-core Americans, no doubt, but rather I am truly baffled by the attitude towards outsiders which has grown in the last ten years in USA. They are fighting against the impalpable; no serious outside threat to America actually exists. I'm sorry, but until this is understood by a wide cross section of the population, the freedoms and privileges you once enjoyed will steadily fall away until you have the National Guard patrolling the streets of your home town.
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» RE: Fighting against chimeras
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» RE: Fighting against chimeras
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» RE: Fighting against chimeras
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» RE: Fighting against chimeras
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» Nothing personal, AmVet
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» RE: Fighting against chimeras
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» RE: Fighting against chimeras
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» RE: Fighting against chimeras
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Posted by: tcmbs on May 26, 2009 8:40 AM
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Posted by: Daito on May 26, 2009 8:52 AM
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Obama is moving right past socialism and into fascism right before our very eyes.
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» enjoy your OPEN AIR PRISON
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» RE: enjoy your OPEN AIR PRISON
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» go torture some women & bomb more children
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» Another stupid person.
Posted by: TruthBeTold
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Posted by: undrgrndgirl on May 26, 2009 8:57 AM
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» RE: i hope canada...
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» RE: i hope canada...
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» RE: i hope canada...
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» that would be AWFUL: Canada changing means we've AMERICANIZED
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» RE: that would be AWFUL: Canada changing means we've AMERICANIZED
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» do you have to be a
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Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on May 26, 2009 12:10 PM
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People don't know the half of it. Look for all your ports and maritime coasts to be cordoned with strategically submerged instrumentation that will detect all intruders and meandering fish.
http://www.gdspublishing.com/ic_pdf/btsa/tyco.pdf
Don't forget the giant arrays that scan the ether and cyberspace for keywords in all communications.
I live near the border; they're building a massive new "Port of Entry" on the USA side, a daunting complex bristling with equipment. All this at a low-class crossing where most of the travellers are retirees going to the Mohawk casino since Canadian Health Insurance doesn't cover that aspect of mental hygiene.
Hope the BorderSWAT has fun scanning the buses and fielding all the chemo cases, implants, dentures, pacemakers, hearing aids - hey, why not adopt a multidisciplinary approach and cross-train for palliative care and change an adult diaper or two while they pat down the wizened scrota.
The entertainment industry can create police drama like, say, Borderwatch with scantily clad armed BorderBitches and AlphaSWAT Parallel Forty-Niners armed to the teeth.
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» you mean the Canadian shows 'The Border' & 'FlashPoint'?
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Posted by: maxsmart on May 26, 2009 1:10 PM
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Some think of being their brothers keeper and other focus only on themselves.
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Posted by: willymack on May 26, 2009 1:33 PM
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Posted by: abprosper on May 26, 2009 2:24 PM
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Our infrastructure is failing, our military is broken, our education is broken and only half of the people in our economy can afford to actually consume anything beyond the basics. The US is declining 2nd tier power with the remnants of a 1st world army
All of this security mess is theater designed to distract people from how bad its getting.
Look at the state of the wars, trillions spent, 8 years in , tens of thousands maimed and killed and we have nothing like victory against two of the weakest armies on the planet. A few years before that started we got run out of Somalia!
As for a change of party, well we didn't really get one now did we?
The troops aren't coming home. Socialized medicine ? Yeah right. Welfare for people, sorry gave the money to the banks
Lets be honest here a good chunk of the Democrats are basically sane Republicans.
And the Presidents moderation, well moderation is institutionalized spinelessness.
Might as well have voted for McCain for all the good it did.
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» RE: I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on May 26, 2009 3:53 PM
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has started taking public note of what:
-the Canadian Privacy Commissioner has been *having kittens* about...
-the Canadian activists already know
THAT THE US IS BREAKING THE TREATY OF GHENT... just like they did when they armed the US Coast Guard & started using live rounds on the Great Lakes (they did a little side-step & said that the 'hunters' in Michigan were worried the 'lead' might 'harm fish' so they stopped... yeah, fucking right... )
Pay ATTENTION Canadians & Americans: this is becoming a LockDown Nation of open-air 'privatized' spaces controlled by more security guards & cameras & biometric databases ('Server in the Sky' is an FBI project of centralized *foreign* citizens' biometric data)
& NeoLib/Cons are driving us CLOSER & CLOSER to a 'supra Government' that is being enacted UNDER NEAR MEDIA SILENCE
on The Security and Prosperity Partnership / SPP / 'NAFTA on steroids?.
wanna know more about it?
LISTEN TO THE JEFF FARIAS SHOW
he's been talking about this with Americans, Canadians, Latin Americans, Europeans
for over a year now.
with a LIBERAL, humanist approach.
perspective, people.
Perspective.
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Posted by: RegK on May 26, 2009 7:16 PM
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» you can thank FREE TRADE CONSERVATIVES
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» RE: 'it can't happen here'!!!
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» US Congress: funding WHINSEC relentlessly
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Posted by: rubbell on May 26, 2009 11:51 PM
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» Southern Ontario is the same latitude as NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
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» RE: Southern Ontario is the same latitude as NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
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Posted by: bwabo on May 27, 2009 6:11 AM
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» let the American 'terrorists' win: that would be a MISTAKE
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Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on May 27, 2009 8:57 AM
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How many of you actually know any of us personally??
I would bet real money that, of those of you who are so safely hiding behind your keyboards to type your schizophrenic hatred of ALL Americans, almost 100% of you don't actually KNOW any of us.
Have you ever sat with one of us while looking into the sky and commenting about what clouds seem like, the Aurorae, the sounds of the birds??
How about sharing a nice evening in my boat while chasing some bluegills?
I'd like to tell you about the hummer who is darting in & out among the bloooms on the azalea next to my window.
Did you hear me ask my neighbor about his kids and why they seem to grow faster than the lawn I cut yesterday?
Did you see me wave at my Hmong neighbor?(I'm caucaian).
Did you see that guy in the parking lot help that old lady with her grocery bag?
No, you don't WANT to see any of that.
It's easier for you to equate EVERY FUCKING ONE OF US with the shitty things the government does.
It's much easier for you angry haters to ignore REAL Americans and our ways so that you can spew your ignorance and contribute ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the healing.
YOU spout all this ignorance and call REAL Americans the problem??!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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» RE: Define "REAL" American please...
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» Don't want to leave the impression
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» Maybe YOU haven't lived outside the US?
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN
» RE: Maybe YOU haven't lived outside the US?
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» RE: OK all you America/American haters
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Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on May 27, 2009 9:18 AM
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O CANADA
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» RE: OH, YES. AMERICA IS REPRESSIVE AND RUN BY NAZIS
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» RE: OH, YES. AMERICA IS REPRESSIVE AND RUN BY NAZIS
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» "I'm a militaristic veteran! I like WEAPONRY & FORCE" get over it, dude.
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN
» RE: "I'm a militaristic veteran! I like WEAPONRY & FORCE" get over it, dude.
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» maybe you missed your career as a torturer?
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» RE: "I'm a militaristic veteran! I like WEAPONRY & FORCE" get over it, dude.
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» RE: "I'm a militaristic veteran! I like WEAPONRY & FORCE" get over it, dude.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on May 27, 2009 10:50 AM
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do you HAVE ID to prove you're entitled to HUMAN RIGHTS?
The Jeff Farias Show: Tues.26.May.2009
Hour 2: Charlaine Harris discussing books, Alan Ball's adaptation of her books for HBO's 'True Blood'series, &
...examining societies' treatment of The Dehumanized, through fictional fantasy 'undead' inhumanity's treatment from 'real humans' & their rights.
Charlaine "has been a published novelist for over twenty-five years. A native of the Mississippi Delta, she grew up in the middle of a cotton field. Now she lives in southern Arkansas with her husband, her three children, three dogs, & a duck. The duck stays outside.
In addition to her work as a writer, Charlaine is the past senior warden of St. James Episcopal Church, a board member of Mystery Writers of America, a past board member of Sisters in Crime, a member of the American Crime Writers League, & past president of the Arkansas Mystery Writers Alliance.
http://www.hbo.com/trueblood
Hour 2.5: Ellen Brown - “Web Of Debt” Ellen Brown developed her research skills as an attorney practicing civil litigation in Los Angeles. In “Web of Debt”, her latest book, she turns those skills to an analysis of the Federal Reserve & “the money trust.”
This private cartel has usurped the power to create money from the people themselves, and how we the people can get it back.
Her earlier books focused on the pharmaceutical cartel that gets its power from “the money trust.” Her eleven books include “Forbidden Medicine”, “Nature’s Pharmacy” (co-authored with Dr. Lynne Walker), and “The Key to Ultimate Health” (co-authored with Dr. Richard Hansen).
Hour 3: Edward Hasbrouck, "The Practical Nomad" returns! - discussing American imposition of travel restrictions & surveillance as well as “Computers, Freedom, and Privacy”
I’ve been getting a flood of press releases from travel companies with their predictions for whether people or not people will still be travelling this summer in spite of the economic crisis. I’m not sure if they are trying to persuade potential investors to lend them (more) money to fund their (continuing) losses, persuade themselves that there’s light at the end of the tunnel, or persuade the public not to worry about money, and to take an expensive vacation, because “everyone else is doing it”
Should you believe these press releases? Should you care? Most of the propaganda about, “People are still travelling, and we expect a busy summer,” is wishful thinking on the part of the travel industry
Edward is testifying this week in Sacramento against a harebrained scheme to withhold drivers' licenses & state ID cards if a DMV contractor’s facial recognition robot mistakes your photo for that of anyone else in the state (& thus prevent you from flying or traveling by Amtrak unless you have a passport)
Your freedoms will be 'given' if you're a privately certified American.
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"Violence can only be concealed by a Lie, & the Lie can only be maintained by Violence." ... "Any man, who has once proclaimed Violence as his Method, is inevitably forced to take the Lie as his Principle" – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire.
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Posted by: StarchildSF on May 28, 2009 2:03 AM
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Posted by: shellius on May 26, 2009 2:15 AM
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» RE: Soon we can isolate ourselves like North Korea. Police state-R-us.
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» It's not so bad with blindfolders!
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» RE: It's not so bad with blindfolders!
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» RE: shellius: someone coming across that border who should not
Posted by: sasquuatch55
» RE: Why is this bad?
Posted by: Javan
» RE: Why is this bad?
Posted by: helmunator
» People with weak values
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» Yes, since different States have different laws we should have borders between states too.
Posted by: Centavo
» RE: Yes, since different States have different laws we should have borders between states too.
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» RE: Yes, since different States have different laws we should have borders between states too.
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» RE: Why is this bad?
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» RE: Why is this bad?
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» RE: Why is this bad?
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» RE: Why is this bad?
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» the walls aren't to keep AMERICANS SAFE but to LOCK YOU IN
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» RE: Why is this bad?
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Posted by: GerryAttric on May 26, 2009 2:26 AM
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Let's see there was Johnson and the bullshit self inflicted Gulf of Tonkin incident which was used to launch American involvment in Vietnam, Nixon and watergate, the My Lai massacre coverup and bombing Cambodia leading to the rise of the Kyhmer Rouge, Reagan and the Iran contra scandal as well as selling arms to both Iraq and Iran while they were at war with each other, HW who manipulated the middle east into a conflict that need not happen due to sheer stupidity, Bill "I did not have sex with her" Clinton and the whitewater whitewash, GW, who's crimes and crap are too numerous to list but let's not foget that 9/11 happened on his watch while he was sleeping, and then there is Barack "Change you can believe in but will never come" Obama who is breaking his promises each and every day. And after watching a nation fall to pieces after an unsuccessful invasion of Afghanistan and a surge failure in Iraq he goes ahead and reapeats the last 6 years of bush war failure in Afghanistan. So that leaves Ford and Carter who did nothing seriouly scandalous out of all the Presidents since Kennedy.
That's quite a record you folks have there.
The rest of the world is not having the same discourse as American citizens are. While you folks all debate the legality and relative merits of America committing war crimes like toture and holding noone responsible, we all KNOW your country is imperialist and guilty many times over of WAR CRIMES and want the guilty prosecuted.
We won't hold our breath!
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» Just "rise"? of the Khmer Rouge?
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» Carter - nothing serious?
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» Clinton? Just "Whitewater" and Monica?
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» RE: We noticed 8 years ago! The new Soviet Union is rising!
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Posted by: morgan1 on May 26, 2009 5:25 AM
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Posted by: aahpat on May 26, 2009 5:40 AM
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America's motto used to be 'land of the free home of the brave'.
Today America's motto is 'This is America, come out with your hands up'.
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» "This is America, come out with your hands up"
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Posted by: hirondelle on May 26, 2009 6:28 AM
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Maybe they are building all of this stuff to keep us in?
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» Merkins want out
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» RE: Scarey... but for the wrong reasons
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Posted by: newsound on May 26, 2009 6:34 AM
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Going into the States, you are often confronted by Nazi-like zealots who talk to you like you're in boot camp. The general feeling is that you are a suspect just for wanting to enter their arrogant and and paranoid country.
Entering Canada is totally different . . . how long are you staying? . . . do you have any cigarettes or alcohol? . . . have a nice stay. They actually smile and sometimes even carry an actual conversation. That's the way it is up here.
It has gotten to the point where the U.S. treats EVERYONE . . . even its own citizens like terrorists. After all - this is a country that is always overreacting instead of acting. A country that denies equal rights to some of its citizens, mostly out of fear. A country frightened by hair gel on planes. One big, very scared gated community.
Obama and change . . . so far, I don't think so.
Still glad to be here.
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» Airports are worse if you're a tourist...
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» RE: Airports are worse ... great post!
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» Orange level
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» RE: Airports are worse if you're a tourist...
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» WITH AN ATTITUDE LIKE YOURS, I'M GLAD TO HAVE YOU STAY THERE
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» i think you just made newsound's point...
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» RE: WE ARE FRIENDLY IRIS...EXCEPT...
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» RE: WITH AN ATTITUDE LIKE YOURS, I'M GLAD TO HAVE YOU STAY THERE
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» It's happening on the Canadian side, too.
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» RE: It's happening on the Canadian side, too.
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» Two things: American pressure and a Conservative government
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» RE: Two things: American pressure and a Conservative government
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» RE: It's happening on the Canadian side, too.
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» That's because the *American* 'security culture'
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» If I was Canadian
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» Touche
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» RE: SO WHAT? IT'S OUR SIDE OF THE BORDER, NOT CANADAS' AND
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» RE: Policing for what exactly?
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» RE: SO WHAT? IT'S OUR SIDE OF THE BORDER, NOT CANADAS' AND
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» RE: SO WHAT? IT'S OUR SIDE OF THE BORDER, NOT CANADAS' AND
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» fear the GAY WEDDINGS & *single payer healthcare*
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» RE: fear the GAY WEDDINGS & *single payer healthcare*
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Posted by: Bizatch! on May 26, 2009 7:59 AM
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Now that I'm underemployed and preparing for the cool-down phase of globalization, I realize that coming back to Canada is the best thing I could have done for myself. After having my heart diagnosed with a faulty valve, I got an operation within a few months, only having to pay for my medication (I have no personal insurance whatsoever). Few people in America truly understand the duplicity that critics of health care reform are using to convince them to keep what they've got.
I will come across as a pompous ass writing as I am about the follies of hard-core Americans, no doubt, but rather I am truly baffled by the attitude towards outsiders which has grown in the last ten years in USA. They are fighting against the impalpable; no serious outside threat to America actually exists. I'm sorry, but until this is understood by a wide cross section of the population, the freedoms and privileges you once enjoyed will steadily fall away until you have the National Guard patrolling the streets of your home town.
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» RE: Fighting against chimeras
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» Nothing personal, AmVet
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» RE: Fighting against chimeras
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Posted by: Daito on May 26, 2009 8:52 AM
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Obama is moving right past socialism and into fascism right before our very eyes.
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» enjoy your OPEN AIR PRISON
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» go torture some women & bomb more children
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» Another stupid person.
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Posted by: undrgrndgirl on May 26, 2009 8:57 AM
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» RE: i hope canada...
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» RE: i hope canada...
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» RE: i hope canada...
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» that would be AWFUL: Canada changing means we've AMERICANIZED
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» RE: that would be AWFUL: Canada changing means we've AMERICANIZED
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» do you have to be a
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Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on May 26, 2009 12:10 PM
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People don't know the half of it. Look for all your ports and maritime coasts to be cordoned with strategically submerged instrumentation that will detect all intruders and meandering fish.
http://www.gdspublishing.com/ic_pdf/btsa/tyco.pdf
Don't forget the giant arrays that scan the ether and cyberspace for keywords in all communications.
I live near the border; they're building a massive new "Port of Entry" on the USA side, a daunting complex bristling with equipment. All this at a low-class crossing where most of the travellers are retirees going to the Mohawk casino since Canadian Health Insurance doesn't cover that aspect of mental hygiene.
Hope the BorderSWAT has fun scanning the buses and fielding all the chemo cases, implants, dentures, pacemakers, hearing aids - hey, why not adopt a multidisciplinary approach and cross-train for palliative care and change an adult diaper or two while they pat down the wizened scrota.
The entertainment industry can create police drama like, say, Borderwatch with scantily clad armed BorderBitches and AlphaSWAT Parallel Forty-Niners armed to the teeth.
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» you mean the Canadian shows 'The Border' & 'FlashPoint'?
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Posted by: maxsmart on May 26, 2009 1:10 PM
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Some think of being their brothers keeper and other focus only on themselves.
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Posted by: abprosper on May 26, 2009 2:24 PM
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Our infrastructure is failing, our military is broken, our education is broken and only half of the people in our economy can afford to actually consume anything beyond the basics. The US is declining 2nd tier power with the remnants of a 1st world army
All of this security mess is theater designed to distract people from how bad its getting.
Look at the state of the wars, trillions spent, 8 years in , tens of thousands maimed and killed and we have nothing like victory against two of the weakest armies on the planet. A few years before that started we got run out of Somalia!
As for a change of party, well we didn't really get one now did we?
The troops aren't coming home. Socialized medicine ? Yeah right. Welfare for people, sorry gave the money to the banks
Lets be honest here a good chunk of the Democrats are basically sane Republicans.
And the Presidents moderation, well moderation is institutionalized spinelessness.
Might as well have voted for McCain for all the good it did.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on May 26, 2009 3:53 PM
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has started taking public note of what:
-the Canadian Privacy Commissioner has been *having kittens* about...
-the Canadian activists already know
THAT THE US IS BREAKING THE TREATY OF GHENT... just like they did when they armed the US Coast Guard & started using live rounds on the Great Lakes (they did a little side-step & said that the 'hunters' in Michigan were worried the 'lead' might 'harm fish' so they stopped... yeah, fucking right... )
Pay ATTENTION Canadians & Americans: this is becoming a LockDown Nation of open-air 'privatized' spaces controlled by more security guards & cameras & biometric databases ('Server in the Sky' is an FBI project of centralized *foreign* citizens' biometric data)
& NeoLib/Cons are driving us CLOSER & CLOSER to a 'supra Government' that is being enacted UNDER NEAR MEDIA SILENCE
on The Security and Prosperity Partnership / SPP / 'NAFTA on steroids?.
wanna know more about it?
LISTEN TO THE JEFF FARIAS SHOW
he's been talking about this with Americans, Canadians, Latin Americans, Europeans
for over a year now.
with a LIBERAL, humanist approach.
perspective, people.
Perspective.
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» you can thank FREE TRADE CONSERVATIVES
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» RE: 'it can't happen here'!!!
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» US Congress: funding WHINSEC relentlessly
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» Southern Ontario is the same latitude as NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
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» let the American 'terrorists' win: that would be a MISTAKE
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Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on May 27, 2009 8:57 AM
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How many of you actually know any of us personally??
I would bet real money that, of those of you who are so safely hiding behind your keyboards to type your schizophrenic hatred of ALL Americans, almost 100% of you don't actually KNOW any of us.
Have you ever sat with one of us while looking into the sky and commenting about what clouds seem like, the Aurorae, the sounds of the birds??
How about sharing a nice evening in my boat while chasing some bluegills?
I'd like to tell you about the hummer who is darting in & out among the bloooms on the azalea next to my window.
Did you hear me ask my neighbor about his kids and why they seem to grow faster than the lawn I cut yesterday?
Did you see me wave at my Hmong neighbor?(I'm caucaian).
Did you see that guy in the parking lot help that old lady with her grocery bag?
No, you don't WANT to see any of that.
It's easier for you to equate EVERY FUCKING ONE OF US with the shitty things the government does.
It's much easier for you angry haters to ignore REAL Americans and our ways so that you can spew your ignorance and contribute ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the healing.
YOU spout all this ignorance and call REAL Americans the problem??!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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» Don't want to leave the impression
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» Maybe YOU haven't lived outside the US?
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» RE: Maybe YOU haven't lived outside the US?
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» RE: OK all you America/American haters
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Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on May 27, 2009 9:18 AM
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O CANADA
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» RE: OH, YES. AMERICA IS REPRESSIVE AND RUN BY NAZIS
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» "I'm a militaristic veteran! I like WEAPONRY & FORCE" get over it, dude.
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» RE: "I'm a militaristic veteran! I like WEAPONRY & FORCE" get over it, dude.
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» maybe you missed your career as a torturer?
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» RE: "I'm a militaristic veteran! I like WEAPONRY & FORCE" get over it, dude.
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» RE: "I'm a militaristic veteran! I like WEAPONRY & FORCE" get over it, dude.
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do you HAVE ID to prove you're entitled to HUMAN RIGHTS?
The Jeff Farias Show: Tues.26.May.2009
Hour 2: Charlaine Harris discussing books, Alan Ball's adaptation of her books for HBO's 'True Blood'series, &
...examining societies' treatment of The Dehumanized, through fictional fantasy 'undead' inhumanity's treatment from 'real humans' & their rights.
Charlaine "has been a published novelist for over twenty-five years. A native of the Mississippi Delta, she grew up in the middle of a cotton field. Now she lives in southern Arkansas with her husband, her three children, three dogs, & a duck. The duck stays outside.
In addition to her work as a writer, Charlaine is the past senior warden of St. James Episcopal Church, a board member of Mystery Writers of America, a past board member of Sisters in Crime, a member of the American Crime Writers League, & past president of the Arkansas Mystery Writers Alliance.
http://www.hbo.com/trueblood
Hour 2.5: Ellen Brown - “Web Of Debt” Ellen Brown developed her research skills as an attorney practicing civil litigation in Los Angeles. In “Web of Debt”, her latest book, she turns those skills to an analysis of the Federal Reserve & “the money trust.”
This private cartel has usurped the power to create money from the people themselves, and how we the people can get it back.
Her earlier books focused on the pharmaceutical cartel that gets its power from “the money trust.” Her eleven books include “Forbidden Medicine”, “Nature’s Pharmacy” (co-authored with Dr. Lynne Walker), and “The Key to Ultimate Health” (co-authored with Dr. Richard Hansen).
Hour 3: Edward Hasbrouck, "The Practical Nomad" returns! - discussing American imposition of travel restrictions & surveillance as well as “Computers, Freedom, and Privacy”
I’ve been getting a flood of press releases from travel companies with their predictions for whether people or not people will still be travelling this summer in spite of the economic crisis. I’m not sure if they are trying to persuade potential investors to lend them (more) money to fund their (continuing) losses, persuade themselves that there’s light at the end of the tunnel, or persuade the public not to worry about money, and to take an expensive vacation, because “everyone else is doing it”
Should you believe these press releases? Should you care? Most of the propaganda about, “People are still travelling, and we expect a busy summer,” is wishful thinking on the part of the travel industry
Edward is testifying this week in Sacramento against a harebrained scheme to withhold drivers' licenses & state ID cards if a DMV contractor’s facial recognition robot mistakes your photo for that of anyone else in the state (& thus prevent you from flying or traveling by Amtrak unless you have a passport)
Your freedoms will be 'given' if you're a privately certified American.
The Jeff Farias Show: streams FREE & LIVE Mon-Fri, 6-9pmEDT
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"Violence can only be concealed by a Lie, & the Lie can only be maintained by Violence." ... "Any man, who has once proclaimed Violence as his Method, is inevitably forced to take the Lie as his Principle" – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire.
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