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Forget "Centrists," We Need Progressives in the Supreme Court -- Right-Wingers Will Fight Whomever Obama Picks
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I learned long ago, while working at the media watch group FAIR, to be wary of New York Times headlines.
Hearing news that President Obama has a shortlist of candidates to replace David Souter on the U.S. Supreme Court, I dug up a front-page New York Times Week in Review piece written soon after Obama’s inauguration about his possible impact on the Court. It was headlined: “To Nudge, Shift or Shove the Supreme Court Left.”
I’d like to see Obama shift or shove the Court leftward. But after reading the article, I realized that it could just as easily have been headlined: “Will Obama Move Supreme Court Rightward?”
The centerpiece of the Times article was a fascinating study conducted by two University of Chicago law professors (one of whom is a conservative federal appeals judge) analyzing the judicial records of the 43 justices who’ve served on the Supreme Court since 1937. Four of the five most conservative judges of the last seven decades (Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, Alito) now sit on the Court. With Anthony Kennedy at number ten, five of the ten most rightwing judges are currently on the Court. The current majority, in other words, is almost a conservative all-star team.
By contrast, among the ten most liberal judges since 1937, the only sitting justice is Ruth Bader Ginsburg – she’s number nine. Today’s other three “liberal” justices (Stevens, Breyer, Souter) are in the top 15, but outside the top ten.
All in all, that’s a rightwing-dominated Supreme Court.
The study gives credence to the claim of Justice John Paul Stevens (age 89) that he hasn’t moved left since being appointed by President Ford in 1975, but that the Court has moved right. And it backs Stevens’ assertion that “every judge who’s been appointed to the Court” since 1971 “has been more conservative than his or her predecessor” – with the exception of Ginsburg (who recently underwent surgery related to pancreatic cancer).
The question facing Obama: Will he continue this trend of shifting the Court rightward?
Unfortunately, from what we’ve seen of Obama’s general penchant for “moderate” appointees who don’t inflame Republicans, it’s quite possible the Court will continue trending rightward – if liberals get replaced with less liberal appointees. After Souter, the seats Obama is most likely to fill are those of the two most liberal justices: Ginsburg and Stevens.
One of the most depressing aspects of the Obama era is how he has gotten away with so many centrist/corporatist appointees with such muted criticism from the left. That better change when it comes to crucial LIFE-LONG judicial appointees.
Whom Obama chooses for these posts is arguably more important than his choices of Biden or Gates or Hillary Clinton.
On this topic (like others), Obama speaks eloquently. . . out of both sides of his mouth. In revealing comments to the Detroit Free Press last October about his models for Supreme Court picks, Obama praised liberal lions Thurgood Marshall and William Brennan of the Warren Court as “real heroes of mine.” Then he added: “But that doesn’t necessarily mean that I think their judicial philosophy is appropriate for today.”
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Posted by: Daito on May 21, 2009 9:38 AM
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Posted by: katvilani on May 21, 2009 9:56 AM
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Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on May 22, 2009 12:53 AM
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Libertarians are anti-Authoritarian.
The right and the left is largely composed of people who do not care about individual liberty and will use authoritarian means to achieve their ends. The main difference between the right and the left is they differ on the ends, both largely agree on using authoritarian means.
We need justices who will rise above petty authoritarianism and vote in keeping with the Constitution.
The Constitution isn't set in stone but it was meant to be amended by 2/3 of Congress and 3/4 of the states, not 5/9 of the Supreme Court.
As much as I think abortion should be legal, there is no Constitutional basis for the right to an abortion. We should have amended the Constitution to grant the right to an abortion, not lied about abortion rights being protected by some right to privacy which is not even an amendment.
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Posted by: Honky the Nihilist VI on May 22, 2009 1:28 AM
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Posted by: Suzon on May 22, 2009 3:06 AM
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Many of his articles can be found on the internet. He was spot-on in understanding the irresponsible nature of the corporation.
Obama will certainly understand that any nomination to the Supreme Court will be crucial to the future of the country. I hope that he comes up with someone to inspire all decent and rational people.
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Posted by: ESPA on May 22, 2009 4:04 AM
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Off-topic (sort of), sorry: While we bitch about Right-Wingers, can we not honestly just call 'ourselves' Left-Wingers, instead of 'Progressives'?? Seriously. Not a hypothetical question.
'Progressive' has become a non-committal excuse to hide behind voicing a 'strong, aggressive' opinion... but not walking the talk.
We can't possibly change things for the better if people can't at least speak honestly about simple terms. Period. It's called "Naming".
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» RE: Hi, I am a Progressive and a Left-winger
Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» what's in a name?
Posted by: luzmejor
» why not "egalitarian"?
Posted by: Suzon
» RE: why not "socialist"?
Posted by: Illuminatus- Enlightend Classic Liberal
» I think all egalitarians are socialists (small s) but I'm less sure that all Socialists
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Posted by: madmac10 on May 22, 2009 6:57 AM
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After watching the magnificent wealth of this continent squandered by feudalists and neo-feudalists, I am really ready for something new. After seeing the heritage of slavery and genocide stolen by self-righteous kleptocrats, I am ready to concede that history is predetermined.
I don't know about you, but I am gonna turn my attention to spirituality from here on out, instead of politics. I'm gonna ask God why power corrupts so absolutely, and I'm gonna pray for the soul of Amerikkka's poor people.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on May 22, 2009 7:23 AM
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Shouldn't SCOTUS have the ability to review Legislation or Executive Orders prior to enforcement- evaluating them as to their Constitutionality before they are instituted and deny even ONE citizen their Inalienable Rights as such?
Seems to me somewhere along the line SCOTUS got it's teeth knocked out and it's Balls cut off as the 3rd Branch of Gov't. Shouldn't those Torture Briefs have passed teh 'smell Test' by SCOTUS. Congress obviously doesn't know or undersatnd shit about Constitutionality and the Executive branch doesn't give a shit. Isn't the whole idea that no one or even two bodies can dictate Laws - esp when neither actually comprehends or adheres to them. Why do you think Dictators are able to do what ever they want- there is no Independent Legal oversight.
WE don't just need a Liberal justice- We need the Highest Court in the land to have some Jurisdiction and oversight before Abuse of Power or Infringement of Rights takes place.. Not after the crime has been committed - that's not Protecting or Defending, that's merely cleaning up the mess, leaving those citizens effected to have suffered the consquences.SCOTUS should be the Oversight to assure the Founding Documnets are being adhere to by the other Two Branches, not some court of last resort for dumb ass shit the lower courts can't figure out or the last ditch effort of some special interest, like the Coleman Campaign. The US Congress and US Senate have lower State bodies to handle the minute issues while they handle the acitivities of the nation as a Branch of Federal Gov't- SCOTUS should be seen and operated the same way.The two houses are supposed to provide Oversight to the Executive branch, The Executive Branch guides the Two Houses, Yet SCOTUS is left on the Bench waiting for some Citizen to bring issues before them where the other two branches fucked up or imposed their will upon them illegally. I want Every piece of Federal legislation, every Executive order to pass SCOTUS's Constitutionality Test before they are ever voted on or enacted.How many acts of Civil rights, treason,War crimes and Crimes against Humanity could have been Avoided if only we actually had three branches of Gov't operating as True Checks and Balances?
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» RE: Why is the 3rd Branch of Gov't Relegated to an Afterthought?
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 22, 2009 7:53 AM
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Posted by: marjani on May 22, 2009 10:43 AM
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Here's the real deal:
These are the "leftovers" from the Bush administration. Albatrosses Obama can't get off his neck to save his own life.
How can America kill them off so that he can do his job or at least do what we elected him for? How much power can he exert without a major populist push from the 2/3rds of America who elected him to office?
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Posted by: Illuminatus- Enlightend Classic Liberal on May 22, 2009 11:45 AM
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It was not the Republicans from Reagan to Bush that politicized the Supreme it was Roosevelt and his threat to pack the court with political appointees that lead the Court to its polarization a political cat fighting. The Court buckled under pressure from Roosevelt and started to approve legislation completely contradictory to the US Constitution.
It became further aggravated by Roosevelt appointing the most political and ideological Chief Justices ever Felix Frankfurter. The Democrats packed the court with progressive and left liberal judges up until Ronald Reagan.
The Republicans do not want to politicise the court as such most of the judges appointed want to go back to the interpretation prior to the Frankurter Court i.e. a strict constitutional interpretation and upholding natural law, no more creating laws by judges.
Laws according to constitutionalism are to be created by lawmakers and not by interpreting the Constitution, judicial lawmaking.
Judge Antony Napolitano makes the case admirable.
Dred Scott's Revenge
By applying positivism instead of natural law, 19th century courts burdened American racial history to this day.
Natural law teaches that our rights come from our humanity. Since we are created by God in His image and likeness, and since He is perfectly free—or, if you prefer, since we are creatures of nature born biologically dependent but morally free—freedom is our birthright. Liberty comes from our humanity, not from an outside source such as the government.
Had the framers and their successors adhered to these beliefs for all persons, there could have been no slavery, no Jim Crow, no public segregation, and none of the evils they spawned.
Unfortunately, positivism reared its ugly head. Positivism teaches that the law is whatever the lawgiver says it is, providing the rule is written down. Under positivism, so long as the legislature in a democracy was validly elected and followed its own rules in enacting a law, the law is valid and enforceable no matter what it says.
From the beginning of the settlement of the American colonies, the government sometimes enforced the natural law for whites but almost always enforced laws based on positivism for blacks. From slavery to war to Reconstruction to Jim Crow, the government presumed to pick and choose whose rights to respect and whose to reject, and it did so based on race.
Is it the role of the courts to sidestep the positive law of the land when natural law is violated? My own view is an unequivocal yes. The standard should be an unmistakable deference to liberty.
Whatever any government does (unless it is preserving freedom by enforcing the natural law) should be suspect. Government either compels behavior or forbids behavior. Some behavior should be compelled (driving safely, for example) and some behavior should be forbidden (violating another's right to life, liberty, and property, for example). Whatever else the government does, no matter what it claims the goal is and no matter the stated justification, because it curtails human freedom it should be suspect and presumed to be unlawful and unconstitutional. If these libertarian principles had been accepted throughout history, then slavery-an obvious violation of natural rights-and all the evils it has spawned would never have existed here.
The real culprit throughout our racial history has been the government. Relying on the laws of positivism, the government permitted, condoned, and protected the most horrific abuse imaginable to blacks, and to some of the whites who protested.
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Posted by: Daito on May 21, 2009 9:38 AM
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Posted by: katvilani on May 21, 2009 9:56 AM
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Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on May 22, 2009 12:53 AM
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Libertarians are anti-Authoritarian.
The right and the left is largely composed of people who do not care about individual liberty and will use authoritarian means to achieve their ends. The main difference between the right and the left is they differ on the ends, both largely agree on using authoritarian means.
We need justices who will rise above petty authoritarianism and vote in keeping with the Constitution.
The Constitution isn't set in stone but it was meant to be amended by 2/3 of Congress and 3/4 of the states, not 5/9 of the Supreme Court.
As much as I think abortion should be legal, there is no Constitutional basis for the right to an abortion. We should have amended the Constitution to grant the right to an abortion, not lied about abortion rights being protected by some right to privacy which is not even an amendment.
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» RE: We Don't Need a Libertarian Court Justice
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» RE: We Don't Need a Libertarian Court Justice
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Posted by: Honky the Nihilist VI on May 22, 2009 1:28 AM
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» RE: No. Don’t “Forget Centerists”
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Posted by: Suzon on May 22, 2009 3:06 AM
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Many of his articles can be found on the internet. He was spot-on in understanding the irresponsible nature of the corporation.
Obama will certainly understand that any nomination to the Supreme Court will be crucial to the future of the country. I hope that he comes up with someone to inspire all decent and rational people.
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Posted by: ESPA on May 22, 2009 4:04 AM
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Off-topic (sort of), sorry: While we bitch about Right-Wingers, can we not honestly just call 'ourselves' Left-Wingers, instead of 'Progressives'?? Seriously. Not a hypothetical question.
'Progressive' has become a non-committal excuse to hide behind voicing a 'strong, aggressive' opinion... but not walking the talk.
We can't possibly change things for the better if people can't at least speak honestly about simple terms. Period. It's called "Naming".
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» RE: Hi, I am a Progressive and a Left-winger
Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» what's in a name?
Posted by: luzmejor
» why not "egalitarian"?
Posted by: Suzon
» RE: why not "socialist"?
Posted by: Illuminatus- Enlightend Classic Liberal
» I think all egalitarians are socialists (small s) but I'm less sure that all Socialists
Posted by: Suzon
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Posted by: madmac10 on May 22, 2009 6:57 AM
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After watching the magnificent wealth of this continent squandered by feudalists and neo-feudalists, I am really ready for something new. After seeing the heritage of slavery and genocide stolen by self-righteous kleptocrats, I am ready to concede that history is predetermined.
I don't know about you, but I am gonna turn my attention to spirituality from here on out, instead of politics. I'm gonna ask God why power corrupts so absolutely, and I'm gonna pray for the soul of Amerikkka's poor people.
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» RE: This is Where I Gave Up Hope...
Posted by: Xynyx
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Posted by: Purple Girl on May 22, 2009 7:23 AM
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Shouldn't SCOTUS have the ability to review Legislation or Executive Orders prior to enforcement- evaluating them as to their Constitutionality before they are instituted and deny even ONE citizen their Inalienable Rights as such?
Seems to me somewhere along the line SCOTUS got it's teeth knocked out and it's Balls cut off as the 3rd Branch of Gov't. Shouldn't those Torture Briefs have passed teh 'smell Test' by SCOTUS. Congress obviously doesn't know or undersatnd shit about Constitutionality and the Executive branch doesn't give a shit. Isn't the whole idea that no one or even two bodies can dictate Laws - esp when neither actually comprehends or adheres to them. Why do you think Dictators are able to do what ever they want- there is no Independent Legal oversight.
WE don't just need a Liberal justice- We need the Highest Court in the land to have some Jurisdiction and oversight before Abuse of Power or Infringement of Rights takes place.. Not after the crime has been committed - that's not Protecting or Defending, that's merely cleaning up the mess, leaving those citizens effected to have suffered the consquences.SCOTUS should be the Oversight to assure the Founding Documnets are being adhere to by the other Two Branches, not some court of last resort for dumb ass shit the lower courts can't figure out or the last ditch effort of some special interest, like the Coleman Campaign. The US Congress and US Senate have lower State bodies to handle the minute issues while they handle the acitivities of the nation as a Branch of Federal Gov't- SCOTUS should be seen and operated the same way.The two houses are supposed to provide Oversight to the Executive branch, The Executive Branch guides the Two Houses, Yet SCOTUS is left on the Bench waiting for some Citizen to bring issues before them where the other two branches fucked up or imposed their will upon them illegally. I want Every piece of Federal legislation, every Executive order to pass SCOTUS's Constitutionality Test before they are ever voted on or enacted.How many acts of Civil rights, treason,War crimes and Crimes against Humanity could have been Avoided if only we actually had three branches of Gov't operating as True Checks and Balances?
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Posted by: Xynyx
» RE: Why is the 3rd Branch of Gov't Relegated to an Afterthought?
Posted by: brunowe
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Posted by: marjani on May 22, 2009 10:43 AM
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Here's the real deal:
These are the "leftovers" from the Bush administration. Albatrosses Obama can't get off his neck to save his own life.
How can America kill them off so that he can do his job or at least do what we elected him for? How much power can he exert without a major populist push from the 2/3rds of America who elected him to office?
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Posted by: Illuminatus- Enlightend Classic Liberal on May 22, 2009 11:45 AM
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It was not the Republicans from Reagan to Bush that politicized the Supreme it was Roosevelt and his threat to pack the court with political appointees that lead the Court to its polarization a political cat fighting. The Court buckled under pressure from Roosevelt and started to approve legislation completely contradictory to the US Constitution.
It became further aggravated by Roosevelt appointing the most political and ideological Chief Justices ever Felix Frankfurter. The Democrats packed the court with progressive and left liberal judges up until Ronald Reagan.
The Republicans do not want to politicise the court as such most of the judges appointed want to go back to the interpretation prior to the Frankurter Court i.e. a strict constitutional interpretation and upholding natural law, no more creating laws by judges.
Laws according to constitutionalism are to be created by lawmakers and not by interpreting the Constitution, judicial lawmaking.
Judge Antony Napolitano makes the case admirable.
Dred Scott's Revenge
By applying positivism instead of natural law, 19th century courts burdened American racial history to this day.
Natural law teaches that our rights come from our humanity. Since we are created by God in His image and likeness, and since He is perfectly free—or, if you prefer, since we are creatures of nature born biologically dependent but morally free—freedom is our birthright. Liberty comes from our humanity, not from an outside source such as the government.
Had the framers and their successors adhered to these beliefs for all persons, there could have been no slavery, no Jim Crow, no public segregation, and none of the evils they spawned.
Unfortunately, positivism reared its ugly head. Positivism teaches that the law is whatever the lawgiver says it is, providing the rule is written down. Under positivism, so long as the legislature in a democracy was validly elected and followed its own rules in enacting a law, the law is valid and enforceable no matter what it says.
From the beginning of the settlement of the American colonies, the government sometimes enforced the natural law for whites but almost always enforced laws based on positivism for blacks. From slavery to war to Reconstruction to Jim Crow, the government presumed to pick and choose whose rights to respect and whose to reject, and it did so based on race.
Is it the role of the courts to sidestep the positive law of the land when natural law is violated? My own view is an unequivocal yes. The standard should be an unmistakable deference to liberty.
Whatever any government does (unless it is preserving freedom by enforcing the natural law) should be suspect. Government either compels behavior or forbids behavior. Some behavior should be compelled (driving safely, for example) and some behavior should be forbidden (violating another's right to life, liberty, and property, for example). Whatever else the government does, no matter what it claims the goal is and no matter the stated justification, because it curtails human freedom it should be suspect and presumed to be unlawful and unconstitutional. If these libertarian principles had been accepted throughout history, then slavery-an obvious violation of natural rights-and all the evils it has spawned would never have existed here.
The real culprit throughout our racial history has been the government. Relying on the laws of positivism, the government permitted, condoned, and protected the most horrific abuse imaginable to blacks, and to some of the whites who protested.
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