This case shows how judges, who are authority meant to protect the common, seem often to be another layer of authority protecting authority.

A citizen possibly victimized by higher authorities looks to the court to even the field. Actually to imbue them with an equal power and authority till the case is decided.

Judges should, without actual bias, be more attentive to the one who is coming to their court in a lesser position of power and authority. It is the very nature of power that in the first place can cause injustice to occur. A judge must always be extra sensitive to this.

If such a thing was up to me to decide. The adult authorities would have had a steep hill to climb to even come to the start of the finer legalities of the case.

A child in that situation, was helpless. The judge should have first and last been her champion. I doubt that this girl has much respect for the system, with such bufoonery and thick headed performances.

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How about the millions of Americans whose Fourth Amendment rights were daily violated by the Bush administration, a practice Obama has continued?

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

I think the "original intent" so beloved of the right is clear enough.

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Sorry but my 1st question is where were the parents in this? Surely they should have been called in when the head teacher decided to search their daughter....

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I read this article with growing astonishment. I have always admired the protection the constitution afforded US citizens yet here is clearly a case where that protection is more illusory than real. I have worked as a school principal here in Australia and know that there is simply no way that this could happen here, or at least not without the principal risking not merely the sack but criminal prosecution for child abuse.
The rules are relatively simple. When a child (ie a minor) is suspected of a serious offence and where we have reasonable cause to believe that a strip search may be warrented then we are required to inform the child's parents or guardian who would need to be present and give his/her consent. This may not always be possible or even practicable in which case all we can do is refer the matter to the police whose guidelines are even stricter (they can bring in an appropriate adult such as a social worker.)
In this case as ibuprofen is not a prohibted drug the police would not be remotely interested and so if the mother did not give her consent then basically the principal cannot go any further.
I know children at 13 can be difficult and some will have dumb insolence down to an art form, yet others will have the appearance of angels and be the ring leaders of some of the nasiest things that teachers have to confront. Yet regardless of that strip searching as described here is still a form of child abuse - we would not get away with it here and quite rightly so.
Is there no child protection in the States?
I am not surprised that the Supreme Court is out of touch but I am surprised that the principal is (presumably) still in his job.

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People in positions of authority often give themselves too much credit for obtaining those positions. Few of them will have come up from poverty and deprivation, but they tend to believe that they are in their positions because they have some superior attributes.

Because they believe that they are in power due to merit, they also tend to believe the opposite--that anyone who is a victim of abuse is likely to have contributed to their victimization.

I wonder how many of us who had to strip off for showers after gym felt that our right to privacy had been violated but, like the girl involved in this case, meekly did as we were told.

There is a much anthologized American short story which I believe is called "A Case of Rape" in which a doctor forces a very young girl to swallow some medicine. Although the doctor tells himself that it's for her own good, the author recognizes the situation for what it is, the use of force against a weaker person. In fact, "The Use of Force" may be the title. Anybody out there know the title and author?

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Nothing new in relation to illegal searches, to begin with no child should be searched until a parent is present, period! We afford (most of the time) adults with the right to an attorney before questioning and just because it's a person under 18 the authorities feel they can just look inside anyones male or female underware. For the supreme court to snicker, hmmm the nation as a whole should overthrow the court, strip the justiced (that snickered) and throw them out on the city streets. I personally have had my child (female) put through military style questioning over a cell phone issue, (but this is Texas so we all know they have thier own laws.)As well as questioned behind closed doors without a female adult present. The system is supposed to be here for the "People" but alas we have no rights only the ones big brother thinks we should have.

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I hate to break most of your views in the Gumdrop Village however lets just change the race of this 13 year old and "poof" problem solved, move along nothing to see here and lets also put her in one of those "inner city" schools, you know the ones progressive claim THOSE KIDS MUST ATTEND killing at school voucher prospects as the kids walk through the metal detector in the mornings (and you fought that was only in movies). I mean really you can't have it both ways, you are just a plebe, a proletariat the rules don't bend for you so get use to bend over and coughing for The State (if you are a male lift you sack).

I'm sure the school board presented out this policy in some PTA meting and you know how Americans take free elections for granted so no one called there school board member and say "hey what the (bleep)" good job responsible adults. Either way in America we have a innocents with our young that spreads into there adult years (mommy and daddy are still paying many of your bills) however I hate to break it to you, kids sale drugs and shit; maybe not this chick but they do. This is more common however in Bigger Cities were the progressives live on the "trendy" side of town and send there kids to private school.

problem solved, suck it up!

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How many children even know their rights under such circumstances? Parents must make their children understand their constitutional rights, that if an adult authority person (school principal, police officer) demands something from them that they have the right to contact one's parent(s). The schools don't and won't teach it for obious reasons.
We also need to get away from some of these 'zero tolarance' rules in schools and instead allow a person to be abused in such a way. I hope the USSC rules 9-0 in support of the student.

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The story is amazing. Honor student or no, big city or suburb, it's disgusting. But I'm curious, ALTERNET EDITORS: Why the choice of photo at the top of the story? Just wondering if there are any messages in this particular picture, rather than 100's of other possible configurations...

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Then the little terrorist would have told them where she hid the ibuprofen.

Too bad agent Jack Bauer wasn't on the staff at Safford Middle School. He could have used electro-shocks - that always works so well on 24.

It sure makes me feel safer to know that Homeland Security is on the job.

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Except that it's too late for me - I've already left the USA, permanently. I just didn't feel safe (from the authorities). In my newly adopted country, possession of ibuprofen isn't even a crime.

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When I read what the judges were saying during the presentation of this matter I was appalled. It seemed that they were belittling the humiliation of the complainant. They seemed to be saying what is the big deal? Have any of them been strip searched or had people groping around their underwear?

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i always believed anita hill, and it makes me wonder if clarence thomas was secretly enjoying a fantasy about savana and her underwear. i remember how emotionally fragile i was at that age - one humiliating incident that occurred when i was in middle school still haunts me today, at age 59. school administrators, like homeowners' associations, seem to feel they can act without consideration of the rights of those they are taking action against. zero tolerance rules have led to some of the most absurd actions by schools and all need to be reviewed. in this instance, why was ibuprofen even considered a problem? has anyone ever gotten high from advil? that someone could authorize a strip search for an OTC painkiller is absurd to begin with; that a body of "august" justices could make a mockery of a child's basic constitutional rights is be cause for review of their qualifications to judge.

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Why would anyone risk a felony crime over pain medication you can buy over the counter? The only difference in the prescription Ibuprofen is that it's stronger. So, one could just take more of the OTC type to make up for the difference in strength..but why? Unless one has a headache, Ibuprofen isn't good for anything else...well, back or muscle aches, too, I guess. But that's it. These people are not only heartless a**holes, but they're idiots as well.

We should all write to Obama and request that he appoint another female justice (preferably liberal or moderate)..the writer makes a good point about this. Children understand truth, and they can't understand why, if our country is a supposedly "free" one, why we don't have control over our own bodies (not even as adults!) and what we put into them. Children and teens need guidance, but it is rigidity, inflexibility, and being over-protective that often cause teens to do drugs, or more drugs, or harder drugs, in the first place. When my parents freaked out over my smoking pot (and I waited till I was 17), it just made me want to do something that would shock them even more. And when I turned 18, I left, with a lot of hate in my heart.

Zero tolerance, especially if you're a hypocrit and also do drugs, except you call the drugs you use alcohol and caffeine and nicotine. Alcohol kills over 50,000 people a year, tobacco 400,000 a year, but pot has been used by mankind for over 5000 years and not one person has ever died from smoking it, or eating it in recorded history!

I don't think minors should smoke, but if I had a choice between my kids smoking pot and drinking, I would choose pot everytime. But it should be legal for adults, and regulating it would make it harder for minors to obtain, since the drug dealers don't card, but wouldn't be selling pot anymore, because legalization would kill the black market. If we legalized cannabis, and decrimialized all drug use, we could put all the drug dealers out of business! But that just makes too much sense.

For those interested, if you visit www.NORML.org they have a little card you can print out that tells one the appropriate amendments to invoke, and how to speak to an police officer. Cops try to trick you into giving up your rights. If a cop asks if he can search your car, and you say "yes," you just surrendered your 4th amendment right against unreasonable, warrantless searches without probable cause. Now, if you are smoking pot or something stupid like that, while driving, then the smell or sight of pot is probable cause. Otherwise, if you know the cop has no probable cause, politely say "no" to his request for a search, and ask if you can go. Do not talk to the cop except to express your rights and ask to go.

Bush eviserated the Bill of Rights on the Federal level with his so-called "Patriot" Acts. Instead of rolling back dictatorial presidential powers, Obama has extended them; which I knew would happen. An old favorite saying: "To test a man's character, give him power."

Oh, well. Our poor democratic Republic is dead, or on life-support. We need either a huge infusion of wht Obama the candidate promised, but Obama the president has't delivered: real change! A shift away from finance back towards supporting labor, workers' rights, Unions, etc. And comprehensive reform and re-regulation of Wall Street, and make the FED accountable to the people of this nation and its Congress. It would be a start; though, really, America is just an unsustainable model, as Americans compose about 5% of the world's population, yet we're using up 25% of the world's resources. Just for us to exist the way we do, others must neccesarily do without and suffer.'Tis very sad. But, c'est la vie.

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The fact that the eight male justices on the Supreme Court do not seem to "get it" about why strip searches are so demeaning to women is a major reason why there has to be more women serving as judges in our courts.

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If this case does not prove that the so-called War ON Drugs is totally insane, I do not what would convince you. Thank the federal government for turning school officials into fully licensed agents of the Gestapo. And the Supreme Court can not see there is a problem with? Why I am not surprised?

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Taking clothes off is private: that's why school gyms have change rooms. But this young woman was told to disrobe by people whom she addresses formally -- "Ms. Romero, Mrs. Schwallier".

They're not family or friends. Their role to her is teacher, guide, mentor -- it's totally inappropriate for them to use their school-based authority to instruct her to switch from student (a public role) to naked person (a private role) in front of them.

Afterward she'd have to encounter those people in her public role (student) every day of the week -- but they have seen her in a private role. That's what's humiliating about this, IMO.

Further, the idea that this would only be humiliating to an "honor student with no history of disciplinary problems" is shocking. Yes, a good and obedient student may be embarrassed to be accused of something she's innocent of, but the humiliation of being forced to take on a private role in a public setting has nothing to do with grades.

If the school staff suspected a crime was in progress, the correct course of action was to call the police. Police have a public role that includes asking people to strip; teachers do not.

Let's hope the girl ends up in a school that doesn't transgress role boundaries.

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Why is the Supreme court discussing this. If this was my daughter or niece or a friends' daughter or relative I would have willingly gone to the high school and beat the shit out of the vice-pricipal, stripped him, and thrown him out in the hall. These little tyrants abuse their authority whenever they can. The problem is that other little tyrants in authority back the little shits up.

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Dr. Benjamin Rush, a signer of the US constitution and good freind to Ben Franklin, corresponded of the coarsening of collective citizenry charactar through over prosecuting triviality.

What a prime example. The US constitution mandates this marority resign.

Comrads, let's all share the shame in jutices!!

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Thanks to the Zionist influence which has infected our legislative, executive, and judiciary, we are all potential subjects of "authorized" humiliation. We are ALL Gazans now.

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Do you think there could be some subliminal racism in the photo you posted with the article about the 13 year old girl who was strip-searched at school? You show an innocent looking white girl and a large black male, apparently staring at her breasts. Was that intentional, or am I to believe none of your editors are as observant about such things as I.

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Not only are the Justices of the Supremely Idiotic Court torturers and mass-murders because of the implications of their toxic decisions (such as saying that even people EVERYONE KNOWS are innocent can still be put to death), but they are perverts too.

Hey, what is next? Will they overthrow all anti-rape laws in the US? After all, women have sex all the time. Why is rape a big deal? Geesh!

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than a little about this situation: How can anyone miss the this?

The lack of compassion & respect is because the "Men in Robes" are all thinking "Why couldn't I have been there to see a little girl in Her bra & panties?" One thing worse than a pervert is a pervert with power.

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Scalia should not only be run off the court - he should be investigated in facilitating the War Crime Torture.
He dared tried to twist the topic of Waterboarding by hairsplitting that torture was a form of punishment and since these detainees ahd not stood Trial, it's not possible they wre being tortured because it wasn't punishment.WTF!?!
Who did Baybee, Yoo et al consult with before they wrote those convoluted briefs- Scalia?
According to Scalia we can do what ever we want to imprisoned people as long as they have not yet stood trial. After that they are protected by the statute of 'Cruel and unusal'.So all those prosecution of Torture (waterboarding) in WW2 were illegal- since they had not done anything wrong, unless a Trial had been held. Apparently the US was acting far beyond it's rights by prosecuting those innocent interrogators.
Let's clear up another misconception. Just because we stayed within the bounds of the SEREs Training program, does not make it legal. First the main reason to have that program is to train our people who to endure and possibley suruve Torture. Second it is very likely some kind of a release form was signed to exonerate the trainers should one of the Students die as a result- soemthing detainees are not afforded. Third, these techinques may be painful, unpleasant or even fear invoking when done by people on your
'own team'- but it increases expotentially when done by your enemies. The SEREs training only helps condition our people to what they may face- it does not eleviate the feelings of helplessness when at the mercy of your enemy captors.
In Fact this entire national discussion and debate is irrelevant, War Crimes is the realm of the Interantional courts.The only thing we can liegitmately prosecute are the treasonous acts of misinformation given to US by the Bushies which allowed them to committ War Crimes.AQ is an international organization - Afghanistan was merely the location of some of their college campus'- bombing those sites would have sufficed without ever putting boots on the ground. Afghanistan was used as a foot in the Door to gain acess to Iraq's oil fields and then ultimatley Irans. Reason they Tortured those guys to confess to an non existent link between AQ and Saddam.
Scalia and possibly other 'Justices' are up to their necks in this high Crime.The Bushies infected and enlisted every facet of our gov't in their conspriacy, that's why this must be turned over to impartial and objective international courts.

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The SC Justices as well as most Federal judges are completely out of touch with reality. Too many of them have spent decades in positions of power and privilege and thus have no idea what real life is about. This is clear in this case as well as so many cases interpreting unlawful workplace harassment. Just read some of Posner's rulings to get an idea of how out of touch these privileged white males really are. Unfortunately, they are allowed to decide how the rest of us should live our lives with little or no check on their power. I hope that Obama sticks to his word and picks some with real empathy. With the ability to look at a case like this and put themselves not in the shoes of the School district, but the shoes of this young girl and to ask themselves how will their Ruling impact this individual.

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Don't school administrators, who are after all "law enforcement" representatives, have a duty to determine whether there is probable cause before acting as they did?

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The fact that Redding was strip-searching on the basis of hear-say shows there's something wrong. School authorities mustn't get away with such misjudgement—they emotionally and psychologically hurt this girl. And got away with it without even a reprimand. The blundering school officials are the ones who should be on trail.

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Seriously, wait until the decision comes out, and then you can write this article if you're still inclined. Cherry-picking comments during oral arguments is not how you analyze the court.

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This incident shows age discrimination. The woman was 13 years old at the time of the incident, in my opinion not quite a child any longer, but by law the same as a baby. Regardless of at what age one regards a person as no longer a child, there is no question that a 13 year old would value his or her bodily privacy.

And, the right to privacy is a natural right that one is born with, and is guaranteed by the Fourth Amendment. It is as clear as a bell.

But I think this also shows how many government officials' minds are warped. Look at how they are mussing their drawers over "sexting" when teens and others have been taking pictures of themselves nude or scantily clad as long as there has been the technology to take pictures.

They go nuts over "wardrobe malfunctions" (I had one on Santa Monica Blvd. many years ago on my lunch break and my friends and I just laughed it off; my wraparound skirt came partially undone and the whole world saw London, France...I'm still laughing), and they go nuts over bikinis that are more modest than what I wore 25 years ago.

School officials confiscate (synonym steal) cellphones from students who are not supposed to have them in school, but rather than hold them for the student to pick up they rifle thru them snooping for all things risque.

And, the Supreme Court gets a rise out of a girl whose rights were violated. I am not surprised.

Government is way out of line in many regards. See my blog at http://www.alicelillieandher.blogspot.com

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The only reason Scalia was approved to serve on the Supreme Court was because he gave an outward impression that he was a centrist moderate. Boy, were they fooled!!!

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It's true that a student MIGHT be hiding drugs somewhere in his/her underwear. That doesn't give school officials the right to act on their suspicions. They take alot upon themselves because the police probably wouldn't touch this, and certainly not the little girl. I can't help but wonder how they would handle a similar situation that involved a 260 Lb. football player who might have drugs in his underwear. It's not a practice that would be uniformly applied, even if it were right. ANNA

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The point is not "justice versus injustice"..the point is POWER showing its completely inhuman face. The chickens are coming home to roost.
We somehow thing that we can export injustice, imperialism, war and violence yet somehow by doing so , because its out of mind out of sight, then it doesn't affect us. But what happens to the CIA officer, the private, the psychological advisor at Guantanamo..they all have families, they all come home...and even though they may never mention their abominations to their family, those muted screams and damaged bodies have a way of creeping or should I say of seeping into the National consciousness .
So back to the "thugs " enjoying humiliating a helpless little girl... for this War on Drugs".
These events are emblematic of how the "Elites" want people to feel, helpless , humiliated and without power.....thats the goal....by whatever means.
Now how do my two points relate, very well , here it goes.
For us as a people , as a species, to perpetrate such acts we need a certain mindset, that mindset tells us we live in a world where no one is connected, we are all separate objects, disconnected from each other.
There is no "feeling" or sense of community , or belonging or connectedness. You see if the officers in question, asked themselves in the back of their minds, heck she looks my daughter, if there was that sense and feeling of being related, they would never, ever consider acting in such a manner.
We can argue about the "twilight of America", we can argue about accountability and all these things...but doesn't it miss the central theme to this pathology , the pathology is the lack of awareness of how we are all connected, we all affect each other, and we are all in this together. Until we as a society can have that awareness and "feeling", there will be no bounds to the injustices and horrors that will be committed.

It is pointless to have laws and prohibitions and years and years of lawsuits , none of this will matter. What we need is a raising of that awareness of our connectivity, of family, of community, of belonging.
Would those officers have acted that way, say if they were living in a small town and had a beer at the same pub as Daddy did...you think they could walk in with a straight face and face that father??? Didn't think so.

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What nobody has mentioned is the effect this might have on enforcement of sexual harassment statues, if the Supremes decide against Savana Redding - any employer, teacher, coach.....anyone in position of authority can claim to be conducting a reasonable search for contraband, while ordering a subordinate to undress and expose private parts. Even more chilling is the lack of outrage....as long as it's someone else's kid!

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...for the Fourth Amendment rights of ibuprofen dealers is a symptom of a larger problem. I am speaking, of course, about the terrifying epidemic of Midol gangs that are setting up headquarters in our schools, and the troubling trend of their growing affiliation with violent international anti-inflammatory and analgesic smuggling cartels that are known to contribute some of their profits to organizations deemed terrorist by the State Department. Anti-inflammatorianism is Anti-Americanism.

No, strike that. What I am actually referring to is the insanely stupid no-tolerance anti-drug policies of so many public school systems that places a rumour of a violation like the possession of a single tablet of ibuprofen roughly on a par with probable cause to suspect the carrying of multiple pre-measured bags of crank. The irrational political effects of the poorly concieved propaganda war on drugs has polluted the minds and impaired the judgement of school principals and USSC judges alike. The potential harmful effect of a simple drug possession policy violation simply does not come close to justifyng the harmful effect on the integrity of our republic of such extreme enforcement measures. This is insane.

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When I was 14 year old I would have traded my "piggy in a blanket" at the cafeteria for one of those IBU.


Did Supreme Justice Rehnquist get searched for his long standing drug abuse?
According to Dr Cary, the Attending Physician of the Capitol, "For six or seven months before Rehnquist's hospitalization in 1981, he was re-filling his three month prescription for Placidyl every month-suggesting he was taking close to 1500 mg daily instead of 500mg."

If that happened today it would give DEA a heads up to arrest for drug trafficking.

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There were a few times at high school when I got colds. Colds that came with hacking coughs. I couldn't afford to miss school, so I took a bottle of cough medicine to school with me. This was back in the days when cough medicine had alcohol in it.
Everyone knew I had the cough medicine - teachers, fellow school mates. Aside from one or two comments that I should be at home in bed - which I probably should have been, nothing was done. The bottle wasn't confiscated. I wasn't suspended, put on detention or expelled, let alone strip-searched. Nowadays, all of the above would probably happen to me.
A question here. What if the girl had said "No", and walked out? Would the school have had the authority to have stopped her?
I remember reading about this case, elsewhere. The girl never returned to her school, and after a period of home schooling, went to another school. I believe she is now in college.

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Fuck all you ass holes.

You can't complain, cause you shepple voted for this.

Obaaaaaammahhh, Obaaaaaammahh.

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In his 1992 book, Visions of Liberty, former Executive Director of the ACLU, Ira Glasser writes:

"The use of wiretapping and electronic eavesdropping emerged during the Prohibition era. Roy Olmstead was a suspected bootlegger whom the government wished to search. It placed taps in the basement of his office building and on wires in the streets near his home. No physical entry into his office or home took place. Olmstead was convicted entirely on the basis of evidence from the wiretaps.

"In his appeal to the Supreme Court, Olmstead argued that the taps were a search conducted without a warrant and without probable cause, and that the evidence seized against him should have been excluded because it was illegally gathered. He also argued that his Fifth Amendment right not to be a witness against himself was violated.

"By a 5-4 vote, the Court rejected his arguments and upheld the government's power to wiretap without limit and without any Fourth Amendment restrictions, on the grounds that no actual physical intrusion had taken place.

"Olmstead's Fifth Amendment claim was also dismissed on the grounds that he had not been compelled to talk on the telephone, but had done so voluntarily. Thus the Court upheld the government's power to do by trickery and surreptitious means what it was not permitted to do honestly and openly. It wasn't until 1967, in a similar case involving gambling, that the Court overruled the Olmstead decision by an 8-1 margin and recognized that the Fourth Amendment applied to wiretapping and electronic surveillance.

"Interestingly, these cases arose in the context of crimes like bootlegging and gambling. During the past twenty years, the majority of wiretapping and electronic eavesdropping by both state and federal officials has been in cases involving drug dealing and gambling.

"Serious crimes of violence, such as homicide, assault, rape, robbery, and burglary, are rarely the target of electronic eavesdropping, which is not normally a useful tool in such cases.

"From the beginning, when wiretapping was virtually invented to enforce laws prohibiting the sale of alcohol, to the late 1960s, when gambling was a major target, to the present, when the use and sale of drugs other than alcohol are the main target, these intrusive devices have been used mostly to enforce laws aimed at punishing and proscribing personal conduct that society deems immoral.

"Because such conduct essentially involves private activities among consenting adults who are all likely to want to keep those activities secret, they are harder to investigate and prosecute than crimes like robbery or burglary, in which an unwilling victim will probably aid any investigation...the invasion of privacy inherent in wiretapping and electronic eavesdropping remains with us as part of the legacy of our attempts to criminalize personal conduct.

"The other major use of electronic eavesdropping has been to punish political dissent. For decades, former FBI director J. Edgar Hoover used wiretaps and other electronic devices to spy on political figures and citizens not yet suspected of having committed a crime. He built vast dossiers on their political activities and personal lives. Special units of local police called 'Red Squads' did the same."

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drugwar I, aka Prohibition, required an amendment to the constitution due to the usualy ignored 9th and 10th amendments. but after prohibition was ended, having created modern organized crime government; they wouldn't accept that, so in 1934, drugwar II was launched; this time with marijuana, cocaine and heroin as the main targets.

cocaine was trademarked by merck in the 1860s and heroin was trademarked in the late 1890s and they sold these products until drugwar II, WHICH SIMPLY MULTIPLIED THE PROFITS. before the harrison act criminalized cocaine in the usa in 1914, if your kid had a toothache, you likely gave em cocaine mints or gum...

the NIH says that 64,000 americans died from illegal drugs in the whole 20th century and the usg department of prisons records show that over 33 million have been imprisoned for illegal drugs since 1940. 55,000 americans died from merck's vioxx in just 7 years and how many went to prison for that?

more... In 1998 an extensive study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) showed that 106,000 people die each year in American hospitals from medication side effects. according to that report "alcohol was the most commonly occurring drug" found in bodies of the dead, but marijuana remains the only so-called dangerous drug which has not been attributed as a cause of a single fatality. Yet in 2007 there were 44,640 more Americans imprisoned at the state and federal level solely for offenses related to this natural herb. There's no count on the numbers held in local and county jails. perhaps the most telling figure in that report was that 17,000 deaths could be attributed to the use of ALL illegal drugs. that represents 1/8 of the deaths due to the legal drugs side effects and overdoses!

anyone who ever read and understood the constitution should see clearly that the drugwar has always been unconstitutional as the FCC, but that doesn't stop a bribed congress from committing treason for a second.

thurgood marshall was the sole member of the supreme court since mid-century to flatly refuse all gifts from any entity. the bribed justices frequently gave rulings, as in the lexis-nexis case of the early '90s, in which they ruled in favor of their bribers – in that case, lexis had underwritten lavish 'conferences' for the court in such places as tahiti, while buying justice's wives fur coats...

scalia famously went 'duck-hunting' with cheney at the expense of an oil company which had a case in the court while they fished. scalia actually ridiculed the very idea that this was a conflict of interest. if that isn't; what is? clarence thomas, a man who apparently stopped just shy of raping several women employees sits in judgment on others? that's a good one.

the concept of freedom is completely incompatible with the brutal destruction of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness which has always been the drug war. drug-testing and strip searches are nothing other than the snarling police state in your face.

i say strip search teachers, cops, congress and the courts hourly in public. search way up into their rectums. the 14th amendment demands that if drug dealers for one segment of the public are jailed; so must the drug dealers for the rest... so throw all the pharma pushers in the pen, too. got some psychiatric zombie pills in your medicine chest? off to jail, dope freak.

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The two cases cited in this article support a simple fact I discovered the hard way. Having been in court many times attempting to collect money owed to me, I have learned if a person goes into court with the idea of winning on the basis of right or wrong, they will probably lose. In courts today, judicial descisions are not based on what is right or wrong, it's based on who makes the best argument. Think I'm wrong? Look at the high-profile cases in the past twenty years. If right was vindicated, chances are it made a better argument. Oh yeah! I forgot. The amount of money a person has can also be a determining factor as well.

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Hi Everyone

I have read everyone’s comments and apparently all missed reality; to wit, intentional mental torture was inflicted on this 13 year old girl and that after she was found innocent. We hear about torture of some good for nothings at Gitmo who have done unthinkable wrongs because they belong to a screwed up religious group whose members are responsible for over 90% of the violence on earth as pointed out by an Australian newspaper as follows:

"Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-muslims or each other? " [source - The Weekend Australian, November 26-27, 2005 AD]"

Of course this so called religion should be dissolve in the interest of world peace as dissolving it would rid the earth of at least 90% of the violence. But of course the politicians will not do what is needed since as Jeremiah 10:23 says, "O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." (Authorized King James Bible; AV). To read detailed information, go to the following article:

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But what was done to this young girl was more than a wrongful search, it was intentional mental torture. How so? It was intentional as the vice principle made her sit for two hours where all could see her so as to totally humiliate her, and then he did not take any action to stop her humiliation by classmates.

This type of man should be removed from his position and publically humiliated – tie him up nude in front of the school for a day would be excellent. He also should be made to reinstate her and give her a diploma from the school.


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From kissing up to Big Media in Hollywood to kissing up to the Military Industrial Complex, your privacy rights are dead Republican or Democrat. Plus, you can count on Obama to push for a Patriot Act III to crush the Internet for you. Is that the hope and change you believed in?

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the 4th amendment has been ruled irrelevant many times in the federal courts.. and more than a few times in the SCOTUS ..and with overwhelming public support...the american voters have clearly made up their minds and theres no point in arguing with them...

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So this is about that it was a "prescription" ibuprofen say 800 milligrams? Which is the same as 4 Advil. Not that it was advil? Advil that is an anti-inflammatory and works well on cramps. So maybe this was like abig mistake when they singled her out. Why her and the extreme they went to over Advil? Is this me or does "Abuse of power" seem to be the norm for all kinds of agencies now. Since the Bush/Cheney abuse of power, 8 year torture of all Americans took place. Abuse of power is the norm for a facist government and there minions. I guess it is no wonder that we have become what we suported. So many facist regimes aound the world as we plundered other countries resources for corporate gain. So here we are again with the fact that High ranking supremes should be FIRED when they do not uphold the constitution. What more could you expect from a bunch of knuckle/sack dragging Men. Power/greed is what makes them tick.

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These dirty old men should be out on their keesters for this ruling. Maybe it's time to rethink this 'Supreme Court Judge for life' thing. It just goes to show that there should be term limits for them as well as Congress, and age doesn't always bring wisdom or morality. These bozo need a crash course in both. But I forgot they were approved by the 'moral majority', which of course is neither moral or the majority.

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It seems that there are so many who want to buck the system and so many who want to pervert the system to give them power over people that we are left with pure anarchy. Religion, particularly the largest religions in the world have perverted things so much that honest people are finding it hard to live a normal life.

Of course, perversion of religion is really the base for the whole problem. It is a case of, "YOU will do what i say and not what i do" that has caused thinking people to go right away from religion and into Atheism. In my thinking, falsified religion has much to answer for and that answering must be to the God they have misquoted, misjudged and misrepresented. there is nothing worse than hypocrisy at the head of organisations because it will infiltrate all the way down to the person on the street who will then be blamed for those same things, but because they do not have the power, they will be the ones who suffer the most.
This poor girl is just the result of the disgrace of evil eminating from those who relish having power over people. This of course is where religion has moved from being the servant to the people to being the master of the people.
I see that Jesus is much maligned in many articles written on Alternet and this is probably because He has been so much misquoted and misrepresented by those who are supposed to be "the example" to others. Not a bit of wonder many folks hate the thought of christianity as they see it.

It is horrendous to say the least to hear how some leaders(read MANY) in society are supposed to be a born again christian and it is only a cover or shield used to cover up their premeditated criminality. Unfortunately, everyone else is branded as the same when they proclaim that they are Born Again to a new and better life.

I guess that it also affects God as He was originally accused by one of His subjects as being unfair. God is the one on trial and for Him to see all this going on and He has to stand by till folks get the idea that sin is so evil and that we do not want it at any price, any more. Then sin and all those who perpetrate it, including those religionists who say one thing, but do the opposite behind the scenes, plus any who hurt the earth or the children WILL be finally destroyed. Those who want a better world will get their wish and probably many who are supposedly considered as being totally unworthy by the self righteous, may just happen to be there and those S/R will be left out. Just a thought from my study of the Bible.

Also, this idea of an eternally burning hell which is supposed to be kept going by the devil, IF as the Scriptures say, is for the final cleansing of sin, sinners AND the devil, what the heck is he keeping the fire going for if ultimately he is going to be burnt in it? Just another of those false beliefs brought into so called christianity from other pagan religions for the purpose of control, illegally. There will be a final destruction but it will never be going on forever and ever. Like a match when it is lit, it will burn for just a short time and the smoke will have ascended forever and ever. Gone.

This does NOT give anyone the right to think that since it is all going to end soon that we do not need to worry about looking after the environment. We will be judged on how we have treated creation and will be called to account for it. It just might be the thing that pushes one out of having a part in the New World that will be recreated where there will be things that we can not even begin to comprehend that will keep us learning and improving for eternity. There will be NO sin there so those who love sin would be in a situation of torment and that will not happen.

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One can only hope that, given the salacious attitude of the 8 senile Nazi old farts, that someone (perhaps the father? some friends?) will snatch up Kerry Wilson, strip him naked, sodomize him with a baseball bat and, still hoist, drop him in the town square.

Maybe a little more vigilante justice will stop the fascist scum from abusing kids, and the rest of us, JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN.

Don't question authority; destroy it.

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Oh yeah, let the old washed up corrupt hags of the Supreme Kangaroo Court handle it. What a joke.

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Child molestation. Plain, simple, cut, dried.
Administrators,adshminbullshit. Don't matter, minor,adult's, nudity = child molestation. Has anyone checked the school for hidden camera's?
What if she was 7 years old? Schools have no "power" to search anyone, if they suspect anything, they have to call the cops, not take the law into their own hands. WTF.

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stick to the subject, instead of commenting on the girl in the story, people are talking about the court, Obama, torture, even pot ( the pot creaps get into everything ) This Country is fucked up because of the 5% on the extreme left and 5% on the extreme right. If they would shut up we might have a chance.

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If they truly suspected something, the school district should not have violated the schoolgirl's person in that way - they should have contacted the parent or legal guardian.

The response of the Supreme Court only confirms the deplorable lack of Constitutional regard this current Court holds.

Scalia should be removed.

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The court in not validating and upholding the constitution invalidates itself . This shows that the court who's duty it is to uphold the constitution doesn't even understand what its sworn to uphold . This is a sad state but whats even more sad is the fact this court can't tell the difference between right and wrong . What and whos values does this court represent ?

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"I'm trying to work out why is this a major thing to say strip down to your underclothes, which children do when they change for gym, they do fairly frequently," mused Justice Antonin Scalia. "… How bad is this, underclothes?"

Context is important. In the gym locker room, kids are among their peers. Everyone is in the same state of undress, and one is standing over them telling them what to take off. Any abuses (excessive teasing, bullying, etc.) that go on are on peer level. But when a kid is forced to strip down in the school office, there's a level of authority and harrassment present that's not there in the gym locker rooom. What's so hard about this for the Supremes to understand? Is this the same administration that decided that waterboarding is no different from a fraternity prank?

MOreover, the girl didn't strip down to her underclothes. She had to REMOVE her underclothes and shake them out! That's a lot more than kids routinely do in the gym locker room.

The admin uses the war on drugs as an excuse to escalate these searches. Just like they've used the war on terra as an excuse to take away more of our civil rights.

Do they think we're idiots?

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The Supreme Court is okay with strip searches, eh?

Well, ask Janet Jackson what she thinks the little girl's (victim) search is worth?

Let's see, exposing one nipple on TV = $500,000.

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I agree with Kettleblack. (This is a repost of my reply to Kettleblack's comment PLUS some new material.)

The Supreme Court rules recently that the ACCIDENTAL airing of a breast or the accidental airing of a single cuss word (oh, my) CAN result in penalties.

But it looks like they will rule by a wide margin that a little girl, who is intentionally violated by people in a position of trust, cannot sue.

Never mind that a ruling against the girl's family will likely result in open-season on teens and pre-teens by pervs working for schools and churches, etc!

I say we all call this case something that will hopefully stick, maybe even be reported in the progressive press (The MSM is a lost-cause) as the name given to this case by supporters of the girl and her family.
(This case needs to be remembered, especially with Obama about to pick a new SC Justice.)

Maybe something like: US Constitution vs Perverts (in a position of trust). Or Little Girl vs Drug War Insanity. Maybe someone else can come up with a better name.

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In the name of this goddamn War On Drugs... Enough, already. You can't help but imagine the titilating edge for some twisted fucks when they formulate "regulations" that include things like this. The searching isn't always done by women either, ask some Mexican, Asian or Central American women about the indignities they suffer at the groping hands and more of male guards aledgedly searching for "contraband". .

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Never Trust a Man Who Wears a Dress.

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The problem we have is Bush and Bush have stacked the courts with so many authoritarian reactionary sociopaths that their gender would make little difference. With the Republican obstructonists still controling the Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid, Obama faces little chance of getting any decent Liberal Judges seated, or anything else progressive accomplished. Unless Reid is sufficiently pressured by Pelosi and Obama or gotten rid of, the Republican minority will block all meaningful legislation and Judges. Our other option is to impeach them, which in Alieto and Roberts cases should be done on the provable basis that they lied or misrepresented themselves in their hearings. Scalia has violated basic court ethics for years in not reclusing himself where obvious conflicts of interest were evident. Thomas is fully incompetent, though that may not be impeachable. Due to Democratic cowardice and failure of any real leadership, not to mention the usual MSM complicity, we will be without any meaningful justice for years to come if some sort of effective action isn't taken in Congress and against these partisan sociopaths. Remember, next fall it will be 5 to 3.

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If you are under 18, you are a second-class citizen and have no rights; you have only the privileges the law is willing to grant to you.

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YES SCHOOL IS A GOVERNEMENT SYSTEM OF ABUSE and the supreme court has put their stamp on it.

I WILL NEVER ALLOW MY VERY OWN BEAUTIFUL LIFE TO BE ABUSED OR MISTREATED BY THE STATE.

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OUR SYSTEMS OF GOVERNMENT ON THIS PLANET ARE TRULY NOT OK IF THIS KIND OF THING HAPPENS AND THESE JUSTICES HAVE NO MORE ELEGANCE OR TACT TO APPROVE OF STRIP SEARCHING STUDENTS. BOY OR GIRL.

BOYS GET ABUSED TOO. RIGHT ALONG WITH THE GIRLS.

HOW CAN ANYONE ALLOW THEIR LIVES TO BE CONTROLLED BY THESE GUYS.

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EVERY SCHOOL I HAVE BEEN IN RECENTLY FEELS LIKE A PRISON.

TRAINING FOR GTMO! SEALED BY THE SUPREMES!

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High School: 1957 vs. 2009

Infowars
May 7, 2009

Scenario 1:

Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck’s gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack’s shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2009 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario 2:

Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2009 - Police called and SWAT team arrives — they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario 3:

Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.

1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal’s office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2009 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The school gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario 4:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor’s car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.


2009 - Billy’s dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy’s sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy’s mom has an affair with the psychologist.

Scenario 5:

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.

2009 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario 6:

Pedro fails high school English.

1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.

2009 - Pedro’s cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro’s English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario 7:

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.

1957 - Ants die.

2009- ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents — and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny’s dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario 8:

Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

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parent or anyone else.

i posted from inforwars because it fits in with my feeling that schools have become prisions.

i hope my child and every child on the planet can experience an abuse free life.

yes we can have conversations without inflicting any kind of harm on each other. yes we can.

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What this issue also raises, is searching a person based on hearsay or accusation. This could open the door to 'accusing' innocent peoplem just to see them humiliated. Perhaps the 'informants' should be questioned?

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had taken pictures, they would have been prosecuted for porn. People are prosecuted everyday for just having looked at pictures of minors that are nude or semi-nude. What's the difference! Just because it's people in authority positions doesn't make it OK!

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It's a shame Redding's lawyers were either too cautious or too intimidated to politely request Judges Scalia and Breyer to stand up and disrobe in front of the court, if it was such a small issue.

Maybe they would have considered that contempt of court (but they've earned every bit of it).

I really don't envy Americans their country's institutions.

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People forget that Roe v Wade was not an abortion decision- it was a PRIVACY decision.

Any justice who wants to overturn Roe v Wade would have to make a series of anti-privacy decisions.

Just a thought. Or, maybe they are just crude and thoughtless jerks.

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Why is this not surprising? Old, white men chuckling perversely at the sexual violation and humiliation of a young, underage girl.

It says a lot about the scope of the perversity hiding underneath the surface of our society that people like this would even be appointed to such positions.

These school officials are child molesters. Why aren't they in jail? Because, secretly, the judges fantasize about molesting children. It's that simple.

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Rumor has it that the Supreme Court is dedicated to upholding the Constitution. With this Supreme Court they have abrogated the Tenth Amendment rights of the States to control the elections in their respective territories [ruling against Florida's Courts on the 2000 election]; abandoning the First Amendment, and now the Fourth . . . but not to worry folks, as long as they don't touch the Second Amendment everythings hokey dokey.

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I know what I would do. I would have the Supremes strip searched and then see if they would understand why this girl rightfully felt humiliated to the nth degree. This country is so F'd up with judges and politicians totally clueless about what is really happening in this country as we slowly slide into the abyss. I sense we are in the beginning stages, akin to the French Revolution, whereby the people in power assume that we, the great unwashed, are lucky that they are in power. Anger is really starting to ramp up, something the courts, the president and congress better start doing something of value before it's too late. Reign of terror anyone?

Good article to be sure.

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Hell, here in Texas - and if you think that's the only place - the police can stop you, relieve you of all your cash (they haven't started stealing and using your credit card yet, but who can doubt that that's next?), impound your car and anything else to which they happen to take a fancy; all they have to say it they suspected your money was "drug money."

Obviously, the Supreme Court said a few years ago, anyone with a lot (they didn't define "a lot" - oops!) of cash is a drug pusher.

And now, with the Patriot Act handy, they don't have to bother with the amount of cash, "drug-sniffer" dogs, and all that satisfying "evidence," they can just say you looked like a terrorist.

Meanwhile, we keep slamming men in jail on phony charges of rape (a guy here near where I live just escaped by the skin of his teeth - and a DNA sample - the feminist warlock hunt: "warlock" is a male witch, in case you missed it).

We have this crap because some group of "true believer" extremists wants it - that simple. Even stripping little girls won't raise the outcry necessary to stop the morons among us who somehow believe "wars" like the supposed war on drugs satisfies their compulsion to inflict themselves on someone. We have no privacy for a lot of reasons, all starting with the fact that we don't want it as a society enough to demand and protect it.

There is an element of our society, for instance, that won't even let certain of us die in peace (to quote a recent column by columnist Leonard Pitts). Why not start with the tabloid magazines (by the way, has anybody ever seen a man buy one of those?), for instance?

I can't help wondering, too, where the hell the men in this young woman's life were when this happened. That's another matter, though - real, natural, men are in damned short supply these days.

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if this government is not changed soon they might take the liberity to violate the children. There are already many people whom have been violated and the law is protecting the preditor it seems that now they think they can do what they want to other peoples children.

Remember the King COunty police have no problem committing felony sex acts on children and don't loose there jobs. It seems that the government is like the time of Caligula . They need to remove justices whom don't respect soveriengty of countries or individuals. No one has the right to beat or rape or attack others just because they have power. I guess USA forgot these basic human rights.

There are few surviving sources on Caligula's reign, and although he is described as a noble and moderate ruler during the first two years of his rule, after this the sources focus upon his cruelty, extravagance, and sexual perversity, presenting him as an insane tyrant. While the reliability of these sources has been difficult to assess, what is known is that during his brief reign,

Caligula’s political payments for support, generosity and extravagance had exhausted the state’s treasury. Ancient historians state that Caligula began falsely accusing, fining and even killing individuals for the purpose of seizing their estates.[52] A number of other desperate measures by Caligula are described by historians. In order to gain funds, Caligula asked the public to lend the state money.[53] Caligula levied taxes on lawsuits, marriage and prostitution.[54] Caligula began auctioning the lives of the gladiators at shows.[52][55] Wills that left items to Tiberius were interpreted now to leave the items to Caligula.[56] Centurions who had acquired property during plundering were forced to turn over spoils to the state.[56] The current and past highway commissioners were accused of incompetence and embezzlement and forced to repay money.[56]

The contemporaneous sources, Philo of Alexandria and Seneca the Younger, describe an insane emperor who was self-absorbed, angry, killed on a whim, and who indulged in too much spending and sex.[98] He is accused of sleeping with other men's wives and bragging about it,[99] killing for mere amusement,[100] purposely wasting money on his bridge, causing starvation,[101] and wanting a statue of himself erected in the Temple of Jerusalem for his worship.[95]

While repeating the earlier stories, the later sources of Suetonius and Cassius Dio add additional tales of insanity. They accuse Caligula of incest with his sisters, Agrippina, Drusilla and Julia Livilla, and say he prostituted them to other men.[102] They state he sent troops on illogical military exercises.[74][103] They also allege he turned the palace into a brothel.[53] Perhaps most famously, they say that Caligula tried to make his horse, Incitatus, a consul and a priest.[104]

The validity of these accounts is debatable. In Roman political culture, insanity and sexual perversity were often presented hand-in-hand with poor government.[105]

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and some sick people put them in power.. How do we change this? How can we protect ourselves and families from perverse government officials whom committee battery assult and felony sex acts on children?

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So, the issue is not really the unConstitutional, illegal, immoral, and just plain stupid search of this young teenager’s possessions, person, and – ick – underwear. That kind of goes without saying, at least in my book. (I vote with the previous poster who suggested willingness to shoot the effin’ balls off the unmitigated pervert who perpetrated this whole mess – and this is Arizona, where open carry is the law, and concealed carry is common, and three-quarters of the vehicles on the roads contain at least one firearm!)

The real issue here is the Supremes themselves; OK, I grant an exception to Justice Ginsberg. But I offer a solution for the rest of them. Fire the bastards and start from scratch! We all know that “life” doesn’t really mean life, does it? After all, there are prisoners serving "life" sentences getting out on parole, especially in times of economic crisis, when the prisons are just too overcrowded for comfort. So a life-time appointment to the Federal bench doesn’t really mean life, either; right? And there is that “loophole” for removal based on “high crimes and misdemeanors”; don’t their behavior and comments in this particular case – “What’s the big deal?” – qualify?

Mr President, I respectfully suggest that any nominee proposed by your administration, in addition to being qualified by education, experience, and basic humanity, be of moderate and not extreme age; be female (females of color are most certainly acceptable – and since you’re starting from scratch and appointing eight justices, perhaps four of the eight could and should be of a color other than white – black, brown, red, pink, green, or purple sound good to me); have a record indicating their capability of rational thought; have no unreasonable bias toward “zero-tolerance” and its accompanying fascist tactics. I suppose it’s only fair to allow a single token male to be appointed to the court, but I’m afraid I’d have to insist, in that case, on his ability to meet all the other criteria, even though I realize that makes the search for a suitable candidate immeasurably more difficult. And, as the only surviving Justice with experience on the Court, it seems reasonable to me that Justice Ginsberg be “promoted” to Chief Justice; how does that sound? Although I’d understand perfectly if she didn’t want the position, wouldn’t you?

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Many lies have been told about me by liars and bigots and I have even been falsely accused of loving Israel by some posters, BUT THE REALITY IS QUITE DIFFERENT. One poster, on another thread, even said,

“Most of the conflicts in the world TODAY are being caused the by US interventionalism. Maybe you should torture yourself!”

To which I replied,

“WRONG - most of the conflicts in the world today are caused by false religion, consider the following:

Wars should be eliminated and at present one religion is responsible for over 90% of the violence on earth as pointed out by an Australian newspaper as follows:

"Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-muslims or each other? " [source - The Weekend Australian, November 26-27, 2005 AD]"

Take for example Iraq and Afghanistan, both were the result of a Muslim religious leader lighting the proverbial fuse by maliciously destroying the World Trade Center and the damaging of a large building in Washington, DC, and the murder of over 3,000 on 9/11/2001.

Just look around yourself in the world at what happened in Mumbai, India; southern Thailand; the London subway/bus bombing; southern Philippians’; the train bombing in Spain; the attempted attack in Germany; etc.; the Mufti approved rapes in Australia where he referred to young Christian girls as ‘cat meat’; do not stay in your self imposed cocoon!

To assist you and all others in knowing the truth, I have set up an educational forum where facts are presented so all can learn reality. Now go to:

http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/

An Educational Referral Forum for those objective individuals that are interested in the truth and NOT bigoted none objective ‘crappola.’

I CHALLENGE YOU OR ANYONE ELSE TO SHOW A SINGLE FACTUAL ERROR IN ANY OF MY RESEARCH PRODUCTS AND/OR ARTICLES.”

NOW I HOLD THE SAME CHALLENGE OUT TO ONE AND ALL! Let’s start accepting the facts and being objective instead of being none objective and closed minded. I am just the bearer of the truth, the facts, NOT the maker of the facts! I am just a messenger of the truth which all should want if they are honest with them selves in keeping with John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (Authorized King James Bible; AV) .

Note, I am none political and belong to NO political party ad have NO political agenda as I support only God's kingdom. Now when Jesus (Yeshua) Christ was on earth, the theme of his teaching was God's Kingdom. By means of that Kingdom, Matthew 6:9-10, “After this manner therefore pray ye. Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so on earth.” (American Standard Version; ASV). That Kingdom government is very shortly going to bring an end to Satan’s world and then supervise the doing of God’s will throughout the earth. As Daniel foretold, God’s Kingdom, Daniel 2:44, “And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.” (ASV).

Iris89

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Let's face it, why worry about what happens to the bad guys who are responsible for over 3,000 murders and untold damage on 9/11/2001, and two major wars - Iraq and Afghanistan; we should be more concerned with respect their victims and their evil and wicked plans, and THE TOTAL HUMALIATION OF AN INNOCENT 13 YEAR OLD BY AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL IN ARIZONA.

Note: these good for nothings are responsible for all that follows from their having lit the proverbial fuse of violence and hate, but of what was this innocent 13 year old victim of an assistant principal guilty of? And in addition to an humiliating strip search, she was made to sit out in front of this assistant principal’s office for two hours so as to also humiliate her in front of her peers – intentional infliction of mental torture that caused her to drop out of that school (torture camp for her). Is this the way of freedom and justice? She should be given justice.

Now onto other subjects:

FIRST, I never used the term 'irradicated' as one poster said I did and I am completely against violence in any form.

My article's title is,

When Should A Religion Be Dissolved In The Interest Of World Peace?

Which can be read at,

http://religioustruths.proboards.com/index.cgi

Under sub-title,

ISLAM THE SOURCE OF MOST VIOLENCE = Linked text

SECOND, Obviously you do not know the facts on Palestine which rightly belongs to the Hebrews. Now go to:

Land Theft Of Seventh Century Responsible For Middle East Problems of Today: = Linked text

And, Yes, the conflict in Gaza is religious in nature because it is due to a land theft made in the 7 th. Century by religious leaders in the name of religion - be sure to read the above and learn the truth.

THIRD, You said,

"So, what do you have to say about this link and article.... and I have tons more for you to review.... and they aren't written by those with a vested interest either."

Obviously the stuff you have can not be of any value as you do NOT even know of the religious roots of the present day conflict in Palestine from the 7 th. Century that was religious in nature and the root of all most all problems in the Middle East. As I said before, you need to learn reality to my educational forum at,

http://religioustruths.proboards.com/index.cgi

FOURTH, You need to stop looking at things superficially and/or going to sources that look at things superficially, and go 'dig' in and start learning the REAL ROOT CAUSES for events - the truth per John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

Fifth, To assist you and all others in knowing the truth, I have set up an educational forum where facts are presented so all can learn reality. Now go to:

http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/

An Educational Referral Forum for those objective individuals that are interested in the truth and NOT bigoted none objective 'crappola.'

NOW I CHALLENGE OUT TO ONE AND ALL TO SHOW A SINGLE FACTUAL ERROR IN WANY OF MY ARTICLES! Now, Let's start accepting the facts and being objective instead of being none objective and closed minded. I am just the bearer of the truth, the facts, NOT the maker of the facts! I am just a messenger of the truth which all should want if they are honest with them selves in keeping with John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (Authorized King James Bible; AV) .

Iris89

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Hi Everyone

The links I gave in my last post are not working so try these:

ISLAM THE SOURCE OF MOST VIOLENCE = Linked text

And,

Land Theft Of Seventh Century Responsible For Middle East Problems of Today: = Linked text

Iris89

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Here is another attempt, hope it works, if not give me suggestions to problem:

ISLAM THE SOURCE OF MOST VIOLENCE

= Linked text

And,

Land Theft Of Seventh Century Responsible For Middle East Problems of Today:

linked text = Linked text

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Well One Worked On Last Try - So Here Goes Again

ISLAM THE SOURCE OF MOST VIOLENCE

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And,

Land Theft Of Seventh Century Responsible For Middle East Problems of Today:

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I hope this works.

Iris89

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