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Is a Cheney Cover-Up Scandal Brewing?

By Nick Baumann and David Corn, Mother Jones. Posted May 7, 2009.


Cheney may be responsible for deep-sixing an important torture memo -- an act that could be a crime. Will Dems bring the truth to light?
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Who in the George W. Bush White House tried to shred a memo challenging the use of torture?

On April 21, Philip Zelikow, who was counselor to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during the Bush administration, revealed on Foreign Policy's "Shadow Government" blog that he wrote a memo in 2005 disputing the conclusions of Bush Justice Department lawyers that torture was legal. The existence of such a memo was a surprise. But Zelikow also disclosed that the "White House attempted to collect and destroy all copies of my memo."

This story is not over. Zelikow tells Mother Jones that he doesn't know for sure who in the White House ordered the suppression of his memo, but he says that his "supposition at the time" was that the office of Vice President Dick Cheney was behind the cover-up. In an email exchange with Mother Jones, Zelikow notes that Cheney's office did not have the authority to request that his memo be deep-sixed: "They didn't run the interagency process. Such a request would more likely have come from the White House Counsel's office or from NSC staff." But that request did not reach him in written form. "It was conveyed to me, and I ignored it," Zelikow recalls. But he suspected that Team Cheney was probably behind it.

Zelikow, who is scheduled to testify before a Senate judiciary subcommittee on Tuesday Wednesday, also notes that his memo was not the only one raising questions about the administration's legal rationale supporting so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques": "There were a number of papers, mainly arguing for alternative legal frameworks." But his memo, he adds, was "a more direct assault on [the Bush Justice Department's] own interpretation of American law."

(UPDATE: The Senate judiciary subcommittee just formally announced the testimony, which will be on Wednesday, not Tuesday, as earlier reports had indicated.)

Congressional Democrats are already seeking any surviving copies of Zelikow's memo. They might now also want to request these other papers. (No such documents have been declassified or released so far.)

Cheney's office was reportedly the hub of the Bush administration's torture program. And Neil Kinkopf, a law professor at Georgia State University, who served in the Clinton administration's Office of Legal Counsel, notes, "People in the White House -- Dick Cheney for example; David Addington, his legal adviser -- didn't want the existence of dissent to be known. It's not hard to imagine David Addington playing very hardball internal politics and not only wanting to prevail over the view of Zelikow but to annihilate it. It would be perfectly consistent with how he operated."


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David Corn is the Washington bureau chief of Mother Jones and the co-author of Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War and is the author of The Lies of George W. Bush. He writes a blog at davidcorn.com.

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Ex Post Facto
Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on May 7, 2009 1:47 AM   
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The Dems will harrumph loudly and ultimately nothing will be done.

Where's the rage? Intentionally frozen in the amber of representative democracy.


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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» RE: Where's the rage? Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: x Post Facto Posted by: willymack
Motivated to give by all this mess!
Posted by: thinkverybig on May 7, 2009 1:54 AM   
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What's going on now has inspired me to donate to small and progressive websites and one of the first that I have decided to donate to on a monthly basis is www.wemustchange.org

It seems to be a different type of blog and plus I like that name. Ha Ha! I hope you find a site to contribute to, we need more progressives supporting site like WMC

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David Corn, worried about a coverup? You've never cared about the coverup of 9/11.
Posted by: pfgetty on May 7, 2009 2:38 AM   
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David Corn and Nick Baumann, all of a sudden concerned about a coverup! How sweet, how dutiful. They are doing what journalists are supposed to do.

But in almost 8 years, they have allowed the coverup to continue of the greatest crime in America EVER! They have been scared off the 9/11 story, along with the rest of American journalists, and allowed all of the horror that came about as a result of that crime: torture, two illegal wars and occupations, the Patriot Act, the bleeding of millions and the bleeding of our national treasure. What should be done about journalists that KNOW and do nothing........turn the other way because maybe it wouldn't be good for their careers?

We know there has been a massive coverup of 9/11, and we know that the government was complicit and lied about what happened. The evidence is in, and real heroes who put their heads on the chopping block have done all the work........people like David Ray Griffin and Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan and Richard Gage.....why David Corn sat by, watching the bombings and illegal imprisonments and the trashing of our Constitution, all made possible because the American people were led by David Corn and the rest of the press to believe a fairytale.

There is still time, Bauman and Corn, and Alternet, to bring the real story of 9/11 to the public. We can turn around so much, and it will happen quickly if Americans finally know the truth.
There is a new paper by Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan published in a peer reviewed journal, that proves that the buildings of the WTC collapsed because of controlled demolition. They took samples of the dust from that day and have found they all contain a lot of bits of active thermite, an explosive, and a particular non commercial type, nano-thermite. This could have only been produced by the US military, as it was still in experimental stages, and each type of nanothermite has a signature that can be traced to the researchers who produced it, because all of them have come up with different processes to make it.

This is a huge story. For David Corn to purposely avoid exposing it, or all of the rest of the evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, is, well, treason.

What do you say, David? Here you could change the world, and you only care about your career. You could have saved the lives of hundreds of thousands, but you said, "what about ME?"

I wish I could do what you can do........bring the real story to the public. I can't. Nobody listens to me. We only need ONE well known journalist to do it, and put the pressure on Alternet and other news sources. You are shirking your responsibility as a journalist, but mostly losing the opportunity to do something great while you are on this earth. One day your life will be coming to an end and you will say, what really did I ever do so great?

I hope you will be able to say that you finally brought the truth of 9/11 to the world, and reversed the horror that has gone on for too many years!

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» Mike Ruppert is a fraud. Posted by: GuitarBill
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» Oh, you showed me, didn't you? Posted by: GuitarBill
» Hypocrite much, unshaven one? Posted by: GuitarBill
» You're an idiot. Posted by: GuitarBill
» Again, you're an idiot. Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Believe propaganda much? Posted by: sasquuatch55
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» And another thing you'll notice Posted by: GuitarBill
The Great Betrayal
Posted by: DrBrian on May 7, 2009 2:59 AM   
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Zelikow's memo is interesting, and should be an important piece of evidence, but will be irrelevant because the real scandal, the most appalling coverup, is going on now under the direction of Obama, Holder, Pelosi and Reid.

It's a mystery to me why the Obamolaters still praise their messiah for doing the same things they cursed Bush for doing.

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Clear US and Extradict Them!!!
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 7, 2009 3:24 AM   
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The Bushies have implicated every facet of our 'Nationa of Laws'. No area has been left unscathed- All three Branches, The Legal System and the Military. Of course SCOTUS is an empty impotent insitution since it has no say in anything until after the fact. Congress Failed in it's Role as a Check and Balance, if not outright complicit.And of course the Pentagaon,The CIA and the FBI have obviously been involved. Our very claim to be a nation of laws has been jeporadized. We must gather all the evidence and relinquish it to the international community- for either an international court or individual countries to prosecute.
The reclamation of this Dissenting memo will help prove We as citizens were not allowed to be fully informed- thus unable to operate as a true Democracy. This fact will not only clear our Name, but also be yet another charge we can level. But we are in no position to prosecute for Torture, Black Sites, Rendition or Hit squads. The Bushies are now at the mercy of the global community on those.And Cheney et al KNOW IT! They are praying We prosecute them for ANYTHING, since the likelihood they will receive lighter sentences and better accomadations. something I Do Not personally wish to afford Them!!
Give them to Spain, or Any one else who's citizens were Totured, assasinated,or unjustly held without true cause say like Syria, Lebanon, Yemen...I have no interest in continuing to marr our Good name to protect these High crimes perpetators, and neither should any other Self Repecting, Patriotic American.
If the Small fish, even the three 'lawyers', want to save their asses from extradiction- they'd had better take advantage of the 'grace' Obama has offered them and Start Singing! Let's not get our panties in a twist about these bit players, if we pursue prosecutions against them, they will be of no use because of Miranda. If we want to finally end the decades of Terror and treason of Cheney,Rummy & Wolfie, we must encourage their pawns to come forward and speak freely.
Oh I would love to see Cheney live out his days in a Yemen prison in General Pop!!!!

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They're Not Holding People Accountable for Torture that Lead to Murder
Posted by: ATH on May 7, 2009 5:46 AM   
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They're sure as heck not going to start following the rule of law because of one suppressed memo. The CIA destroyed 90 tapes of evidence with impunity and immunity...Our government has gone rogue. They're no longer accountable, no longer representing We the People, and are no longer following domestic, Constitutional, or international law. The Dems are afraid that they will get hurt in this politically, for Pelosi was in fact fully briefed on these tactics, and you don't brief someone on tactics like these if they're not going to use them. I don't believe that excuse, anyway. They knew. Pelosi's in the #3 position of power in our government, as Speaker of the House. This is why she blocked Impeachment hearings. You think that if the Dems hands weren't also dirty they would hesitate putting the nail in the coffin of the GOP? The thing is, this isn't a partisan issue. And it's not aquestion of whether torture works or not. It's a question of whether some people are indeed above the law, despite all the assertions otherwise: just like the assertions that "we don't torture." No matter how many times one repeats a lie, it will never make it true.

If we do not prosecute these individuals--all of them, from the leaders like Bush & Cheney who ordered it, to these attorneys who tried to legalize torture through these ridiculous, pseudo-legal "opinions," all the while knowing that waterboarding and other "level 3" techniques had been long established, under numerous legal precedent, as torture and illegal in all cases, no ifs, ands or buts.And we never allowed "I was just following orders" to be used as a defense against the people of other nations we prosecuted for these very same crimes, including law-makers (not just lawyers, either but judges), leaders, and soldiers. No, we executed many, and even the judges received life sentences. Of course, what many (especially Jews)don't know is that hardly any of them served their full sentences, but were released because, in the wake of Russia's rise to power after WW2, we suddenly needed all the allies we could get. Also, under "Operation Paperclip," many of the German Nazi scientists were also brought to America and given freedom in exchange for helping Americans with the Manhattan Project and others. Most people don't know, or don't believe, that Japan tried to surrender before we droped the bombs, but we dropped both of them anyway. Even if they hadn't been trying to surrender, and that's untrue, don't you think a demonstration of the bomb would have been enough? Or dropping just one bomb would have certainly done it. But no, we had to use our investment and kill millions. The ones who died quickly were the lucky ones. Radiation poisoning has got to be one of the most horrible deaths a person can experience. They should be allowed a mortal dose of morphine and be put out of their misery. I would want to be. Radiation poisoning is irreversible. And we've been using Depleted Uranium (radioactive waste, basically) in all our munitions (supposedly for its hardness, which penetrates armor) since the 1st Gulf War. When these DU rounds impact, the DU within can be rendered into bits as small as .1 micron. These bits are in the air, and are inhaled by our soldiers, and innocent civilians. Since the Iraq war, birth defects in Iraq have sky-rocketed. Mothers don't ask "is it a boy or girl" as their first question anymore, Instead it's, "is it normal?" It's gotten so bad, some mothers have given birth to mere body parts. other defects I've seen are just too horrible to describe with words. This radioactive particles of DU, because of the dry climate and frequent dust storms, is continually re-circulated into the air, and spread farther. It will last for billions of years. And I'm out of space, and will finish in a reply post.

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The Plot Thickens....
Posted by: Tom Degan on May 7, 2009 5:58 AM   
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It just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser.

Eventually they will uncover the horrible truth of this administration's (Excuse me, that administration's) misdeeds - but it might take years. This much is certain: it is obvious that the Bush Mob is starting to panic. They are beyond the protection of the presidential pardon, assuming that Bush didn't issue a blanket pardon in secret in order to avoid the same kind of bad press Clinton received for his eleventh hour pardons (one of my theories).

I am still hopeful enough (naive enough?) to believe that, ultimately, justice will prevail and that the guilty will be punished - and I would include in that list the man I used to refer to in these pages as the "Firs Fool".

The G.O.Pizza Party

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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» RE: The Plot Thickens.... Posted by: VZEQICVA
Let's all wake up!
Posted by: thinkverybig on May 7, 2009 8:15 AM   
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This is a great read!

http://www.wemustchange.org/2009/05
/politics/the-big-picture/

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No, the Democratic Party leadership is too busy arresting single payer healthcare advocates to
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on May 7, 2009 8:29 AM   
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hold Cheney accountable. The Democrats don't want any more progress than the Republicans. Both parties must go. The only Democrats and Republicans who may stay are the ones who really represent the people and that's rare.

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Demopcrats in Washington Lack a certain physical attribute
Posted by: Outspokengrandmother on May 7, 2009 8:55 AM   
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These days and for the past 8 years I have been astonished by the Democrats lack of morality. They roll over and play prostitute to every big business interest, they cower like whipped dogs before the Republican MINORITY....they're absolutely immoral and they have sold us down the drain. Of course they won't prosecute Cheney - that would take moral fiber and back bone both of which are sorely lacking in Washington including in the White House.

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Well Hell
Posted by: SocoLoco on May 7, 2009 9:19 AM   
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Isn't there more than enough evidence against the Bush administration for a trial? I suppose the darling of the Democrats, Pelosi still has the "off the table" view of this.

Yawn, if they ate babies the Democrats wouldn't do anything at his point.

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» RE: Well Hell Posted by: AuntBec
Land of the Brave
Posted by: Archie1954 on May 7, 2009 9:40 AM   
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Are you sure the Democratic Administration wants to challenge Darth Vader and his control of the dark side?

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Please
Posted by: willymack on May 7, 2009 10:13 AM   
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Write the President and DEMAND an accounting for the bushie crimes. The time for talk is long gone. It's time to ARREST the bushie turds, beginning with cheney, bring them to trial,convict them (that'll be easy), and put them away for the rest of their miserable lives. The fact of their continued freedom and insousiant arrogance towards our people is unbearable to me. We're supposed to be a nation of laws, but are we REALLY?

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» RE: Please Posted by: Quannah
Cheney is flaunting his crimes every time he pops up in the media.
Posted by: Quannah on May 7, 2009 10:52 AM   
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He's DARING them to do something about it!

Somebody better call his bluff. He's giving them admissions of guilt every time he opens his mouth. He's too full of hubris to shut up, so somebody better make sure he gets the opportunity to talk and talk and talk... in front of a grand jury.

He had the balls to announce that he "wasn't about to sit by and watch the little guys take the fall" for the crimes he masterminded and ordered to be carried out. I want to see how well he protects the "little guys." That would mean he would have to admit his own guilt.

Yeah, right. Like you did with Scooter Libby?

Fucking jerk needs to be in a 6 x 6 cell.

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apparently, possession of Pot a greater crime
Posted by: hardwroc on May 7, 2009 11:46 AM   
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Thus far, it's looking like a kid with a joint is more a national threat than torturing to death of prisoners.

I had no idea !
Seems we need a recalibration of our priorities.

It COULD be, that Obama is staying out of the lead on this so to let the Justice dept be the players that will enforce the rules of law, or void them.
They all could be playing rope a dope to allow the international court to remove this steaming pile of excrement from their hands.
The fact is, the 20% ers of the GOP will never accept that their "gods" of the party were crooks and liars and killers for the profits made for their "base".
And to avoid the wrath of the easily led (faux newz) beleivers have not hurried to prosecute, but would be happy to watch Spain do the work.
Clean hands, effective law enforcement and back to life in America with out the divide.
Or, they may just be allowing the facts come out as they are, and will move accordingly.
I'm still hopeful that they will keep getting more and more daring in their exposures of the "work" they did "for America" and will eventually tip the scales to a point we cannot allow them to escape from. Keep telling them that there will be no prosecution and when they confess to it all, then backtrack and slam the door on them.
Otherwise, there can be never again another arrest for small time crimes. We'll just have to "Look forward, not back".

IF these guys commited no crimes, or will not be prosecuted for them, there can be no crimes worthy of prosecution in the country. Torture, murder, kidnapping, all ok now.
No wonder the righties are arming up.

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ACCOUNTABILITY AND REPERCUSSION IS THE ANSWER
Posted by: Bob Graham Las Vegas on May 7, 2009 11:51 AM   
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It jusrt happens to be a Democrat thing today, but it has been a Republican thing at other times. Our entire mess revolves around "No accountability and no repercussions for illegal acts by anyone in the government". This does not just say the 545 on the hill, but includes all employees of our goverment and all/any political parties.

Folks have said "The government can't " so much they have become to believe it was written in stone by God. Restore accountability in government , demand at will hiring for ALL government employees, then sit back and watch the changes.

Any business which would allow anarchy in it's management, can expect anarchy to run throughout the company and failure surely follows. It is time for revamping this runaway company we call government, and it might just as well start with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and all of their underlings who would play games at the expense of the country, it's people, their lives/money and it's constitution.

CHANGE should not be the call, but rather the business plan, and YES WE CAN.... Even if it means stepping on everyone's toes including those of our president, Barack Obama. Pain does do marvelous things, especially if it is administered correctly and to the criminality proven by due process.

If there has been no violations, why are all of those being talked about so nervous? Don't they trust what they sell to us as innocent until proven guilty? It is obvious in everyone's mind and anyone who would not proceed immediately is only doing so in fear of being included in any future dealings.

Prosecute here!!! Prosecute now!!! We can drill for oil anytime.

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EncinoM & GuitarBill - We are tired of your insulting sh*t!
Posted by: D. Shenary on May 7, 2009 2:35 PM   
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You two bloggers (or are you really one in the same) couldn't convince anyone of what happened on 911. Your sources are the same media liars that bought into the ridiculous official story in the first place. Insulting others who do not share your opinions seems to be your main modus operandi. Why don't you just tell us what your real agenda is. Is it possible you are being paid to help make people believe in absurdities? Give us a break and just go away until such time as you have something meaningful to say.

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» I promise to go away .... Posted by: EncinoM
Hang 'Shotgun Cheney' by the balls.
Posted by: travelertoo on May 7, 2009 5:55 PM   
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The Bush Presidency should be known as the disappearing presidency. When the twin towers were hit Bush DISAPPEARED. The Iraq nuclear missiles DISAPPEARED. The CIA tapes of interrigation DISAPPEARED. Bush was nowhere to be found when 'shotgun Cheney' disclosed that Valerie Plame was a (covert) CIA agent which was classified information. When our embassy in Serbia burned Bush DISAPPEARED. Bush's Robber Baron presidency has made our money DISAPPEAR. With Voodoo Economics Georgie has made most of our jobs DISAPPEAR. But what would happen if Bush really disappeared? Can you imagine 'Shotgun Cheney' with his finger on the nuclear trigger? If that were to happen everyone might just DISAPPEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He did manage to APPEAR just long enough to lobby for CORPORATE WELFARE for the international banks. Goodbye Goofball Georgie, have fun in Texass.

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Dr. Zelikow helped cover up Mr. Cheney's role in the 9/11 operation.
Posted by: LeftWright on May 7, 2009 6:19 PM   
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Dr. Zelikow, as executive director of the 9/11 Commission, was in charge of the production of the 9/11 Commission Report and thus was in a position to determine what went into it, and more importantly, what was left out. Of the many omissions made by Dr. Zelikow are two rather significant items having to do with Mr. Cheney's role in the 9/11 operation.

The first was Mr. Bush's creation of the Office of National Preparedness and the appointment of Mr. Cheney to head this office on May 8, 2001. This put Mr. Cheney in direct control of all U.S. government exercises (military and civilian) taking place on 9/11/01, including NORAD drills which simulated commercial planes being hijacked and flown into buildings (among other things).

The second omission by Dr. Zelikow was to excise Norman Mineta's sworn testimony before the 9/11 Commission from the report and re-write the timeline regarding Mr. Cheney's presence and activities in the PEOC on 9/11/01 in direct contradiction to several witnesses' accounts.

Take a look at Mr. Mineta's testimony here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO-9LQDFE2Y

It's worth noting that Dr. Zelikow was clearly part of the Bush/Cheney White House and remained in frequent contact with the White House while he was running the 9/11 Commission.

If you analyze the government's story closely, you will find that not one element of their conspiracy theory is credibly supported by the facts.

We need a new investigation into the events of 9/11/01.

Physics, facts and logic prove that the government's conspiracy theory of 9/11 cannot be true.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

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Zelikow is a CoverUp Con Man for 9/11 crimes (So is David Corn)
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on May 7, 2009 7:26 PM   
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A criminal CoverUp by Zelikow as "executive director" of the 9/11 Commission is at the root of the entire Washington-MSM runway carnival show and phony cover story of 9/11 into the 1,000 lies old "war on terror" farce .

This is called limited hangout folks. A liar-fest Washington-Media establishment again tries to distract gullible Americans with a crime that is orders of magnitude less serious than the single greatest CoverUp of modern history at 9/11.

Patriots Question 9/11

architects and engineers 911 truth


“I saw papers that show the U.S. knew al-Qaeda would attack cities with airplanes… I gave [the 9-ll Commission] details of specific investigation files, the specific dates, specific target information, specific managers in charge of the investigation. This is not hearsay. These are things that are documented.”
MRS. SIBEL EDMONDS (whistleblower and former top-level FBI translator who gave closed session testimony to the 9-11 Commission. The Bush/Cheney administration silenced Edmonds with a court gag order citing the rarely used “state secrets privilege”. Interview UK Independent 4/2/04)

"This [9/11 Commission] is a scam," Cleland said. "It's disgusting. America is being cheated."
Senator Max Cleland (interview with Woff Blitzer on CNN 11/13/03)

"It is a national scandal. This [9/11] investigation is now compromised."
Senator Max Cleland (resigned from the 9/11 “Commission” in outrage 11/13/2003 Boston Globe)

"I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. ... An airliner almost certainly did not hit The Pentagon. ... The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center almost certainly did not collapse and fall to earth because hijacked aircraft hit them."
William Christison - Former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis, overseeing 250 CIA analysts. 29-year CIA veteran.

"The final [9/11 Commission] report is ultimately a coverup. I don't know how else to describe it."
- Melvin Goodman, PhD - Former Division Chief of the CIA's Office of Soviet Affairs and Senior Analyst from 1966 - 1990

"I can state: the planning of the attacks was a master deed, in technical and organizational terms. To hijack four huge airplanes within a few minutes and within one hour, to drive them into their targets, with complicated flight maneuvers! This is unthinkable without years-long support from secret apparatuses of the state and industry…When one is dealing with intelligence services, one can imagine manipulations of the highest quality.”
Andreas von Bülow (ex-state German secretary Ministry of Defense and for Research and Technology. Also a member of the German Bundestag [German Parliament] and a Control Commissioner for the German Secret Services – Quote German newspaper Tagesspiegel 1/13/02)

"Terrorists could not have carried out such an operation with four hijacked planes without the support of a secret service."
Horst Ehmke (former coordinator of the German Secret Services, member of the German Bundestag and German Minister of Justice as well as Federal Minster for Research and Technology Quote 2002)

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FMAinMass
Posted by: FMABBI on May 9, 2009 2:12 AM   
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We MUST get this no-brainer torture connection with Cheney done. WHEN the light shines on this, other issues will then be brought to light - like Cheney's involvement with 9-11 attacks. If ever there was an "evil" person in power it was Cheney. We cannot let him get away with the near destruction of our country.

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Prosecute the Criminals!
Posted by: jpinsatx on May 10, 2009 6:29 AM   
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Now that the Bush-Cheney Thugs are out of power, they can no longer use "War on Terror", "National Security" or even "Global Economy" to cover-up their graft and corruption. Nobody is Above the Law... Follow the Evidence... Follow the MONEY... Prosecute the Criminals!

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