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Declassified Report: Bush Admin Solicited Torture 'Wish List,' Ordered 'Communist' Tactics

By Stephen Webster and Diane Sweet, Raw Story. Posted April 22, 2009.


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A report by the Senate Armed Services Committee released Tuesday night says that torture techniques used at Abu Ghraib prison and approved by officials in the George W. Bush administration were applied only after soliciting a "wish list" from interrogators.

President George W. Bush made a written determination that Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, which would have afforded minimum standards for humane treatment, did not apply to al Qaeda or Taliban detainees. This act, the committee found, cleared the way for a new interrogation program to be developed in-part based on "Chinese communist" tactics used against Americans during the Korean War, mainly to elicit false confessions for propaganda purposes.

The committee's report was made available in Dec. 2008, but was delayed by the Pentagon's declassification program. Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) concluded that the findings were enough to warrant serious consideration by the Department of Justice.

"There is still the question, however, of whether high level officials who approved and authorized those policies should be held accountable," he wrote. "I have recommended to Attorney General Holder that he select a distinguished individual or individuals - either inside or outside the Justice Department, such as retired federal judges - to look at the volumes of evidence relating to treatment of detainees, including evidence in the Senate Armed Services Committee's report, and to recommend what steps, if any, should be taken to establish accountability of high-level officials - including lawyers."

The tactics, such as waterboarding, body slapping, the use of dogs and insects, prolonged standing, sleep deprivation and forced sexual humiliation are all part of the Navy's Survival Evasion Resistance and Escape (SERE) program.

"In SERE training, U.S. troops are briefly exposed, in a highly controlled setting, to abusive interrogation techniques used by enemies that refuse to follow the Geneva Conventions," the report reads. "The techniques are based on tactics used by Chinese Communists against American soldiers during the Korean War for the purpose of eliciting false confessions for propaganda purposes. Techniques used in SERE training include stripping trainees of their clothing, placing them in stress positions, putting hoods over their heads, subjecting them to face and body slaps, depriving them of sleep, throwing them up against a wall, confining them in a small box, treating them like animals, subjecting them to loud music and flashing lights, and exposing them to extreme temperatures. Until recently, the Navy SERE school also used waterboarding.

'The purpose of the SERE program is to provide U.S. troops who might be captured a taste of the treatment they might face so that they might have a better chance of surviving captivity and resisting abusive and coercive interrogations."

SERE is operated by the "Joint Personnel Recovery Agency (JPRA)," the report says. " ... An agency whose expertise was in training American personnel to withstand interrogation techniques considered illegal under the Geneva Conventions."

"The Committee's investigation revealed that, following Secretary Rumsfeld's authorization, senior staff at GTMO drafted a standard operating procedure (SOP) for the use of SERE techniques, including stress positions, forcibly stripping detainees, slapping, and 'walling' them," the committee found. "That SOP stated that 'The premise behind this is that the interrogation tactics used at U.S. military SERE schools are appropriate for use in real-world interrogations.' Weeks later, in January 2003, trainers from the Navy SERE school traveled to GTMO and provided training to interrogators on the use of SERE techniques on detainees."

"According to several former top officials involved in the discussions seven years ago, they did not know that the military training program, called SERE […] had been created decades earlier to give American pilots and soldiers a sample of the torture methods used by Communists in the Korean War, methods that had wrung false confessions from Americans," reported the New York Times.

"Even George J. Tenet, the C.I.A. director who insisted that the agency had thoroughly researched its proposal and pressed it on other officials, did not examine the history of the most shocking method, the near-drowning technique known as waterboarding."

"In mid-August 2003, an email from staff at Combined Joint Task Force 7 (CJTF-7) headquarters in Iraq requested that subordinate units provide input for a 'wish list' of interrogation techniques [to be used at Abu Ghraib], stated that 'the gloves are coming off,' and said 'we want these detainees broken,'" the report found.

The full report may be read here.


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Posted by: melpol on Apr 22, 2009 7:24 AM   
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Low quality intelligence gatherers rely on torture for information. But it only produces false leads from victims that will confess to anything to stop the pain. Placing spies in the enemy ranks has proven to be the best way of gathering information. But It takes a lot of hard work to have a string of informers. Reliance on torture is only a way of looking busy.

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» Move to Israel Posted by: weathered
Extracting Information Through The Use Of Torture
Posted by: mojonikki on Apr 22, 2009 7:32 AM   
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Good points on the unreliability of torture as a means of extracting information. Another tactic that seems to be better than torture is good old fashioned bribery.

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TORTURE IS NOT ABOUT INFORMATION
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Apr 22, 2009 7:42 AM   
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Going back on history people have been tortured over the ages because of their beliefs or politics. It is not, nor has it ever been a way to extract the truth. People tell the torturers what they want to hear. The torturers dont' give a damn. They LOVE their work. What a rush! ANNA

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going to bat for KSM?
Posted by: SeattlePackedSnowandCollidedCars on Apr 22, 2009 8:22 AM   
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really what is torture anymore?

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How effective could it be? KSM was waterboarded 183 times
Posted by: MeyravLevine on Apr 22, 2009 10:26 AM   
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6 times a day on average.

And all we got was this lousy "confession", that even CIA officials say "rings false."

KSM's confession has no evidential value, except may be in the kangaroo courts at GITMO.

Bin Laden's purported "video confession" was even less believable that it isn't even mentioned in the 9/11 Commission report. Of course, that didn't stop MSM to play the video ad nauseam.

And we have two senseless wars and no real evidence of tying the wars to the 9/11.

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The open secret
Posted by: Bliss Doubt on Apr 22, 2009 2:14 PM   
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confirmed in this article is not news. I heard many interviews with "grunts" on NPR, before Rumsfeld resigned. They were all very serious people who hated having to do what they did. They said it was pure fantasy for Rumsfeld to say that the grunts did things on their own, for their own amusement, without supervision by their superiors. They complained of the betrayal by the government they were trying to serve. One woman said that she refused to do it any more after the first time, because, she said, they were creating terrorists, not revealing terrorists. One guy said that he heard Rumsfeld blaming the grunts for rogue behavior and said "well, I'm screwed". They all said that their techniques were reviewed in meetings before they commenced, down to the last detail.

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A Litmus Test of Values
Posted by: DrBrian on Apr 22, 2009 4:52 PM   
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Many people truly enjoy cruelty. Children torment animals and bully others, and millions vicariously enjoy cruelty through violent movies, TV programs, and video games. The civilizing effects of good parenting, ethical teaching and social sanctions--including laws--act as a counterbalance. Truly civilized people learn to abjure and abhor brutality.

Accordingly, what does it tell us that support for torture, wars of aggression, summary execution and the death penalty are strongest among the religiously devout--and this is true whether they are Christians, Jews, Muslims or Hindus? Does it prove Hitchens and Harris right?

No, it proves only the corrosive effects of very conservative religion, the kind that enshrines and clings to millenia old ethical systems featuring retribution and dominance.

The polarized response to disclosure of the torture memos is a litmus test of values, and tells us a great deal about the values of the religious right.

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Letter to the previous Administration
Posted by: Captainmagic on Apr 22, 2009 6:13 PM   
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If the USof A has to be held up as a shining light of Justice for all and the reasons for unilateral aggression is to be seen for what it has been over the last eight years (grab for oil) would you then consider it appropriate for all purpetriators of this high treason against such a proud nation to be placed into custody.

"ARE YOU WITH US OR AGAINST US"

And i cant wait for "OUR MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" but I know we will have to produce a "SURGE" to know, the extent of their unknown unknown, known's.

America stop talking!!

"ACTION IS REQUIRED"
Here's the new word for IRAQ

"PROSECUTE"

The rest of the world is!

"ARE YOU WITH US OR AGAINST US"

Captain OUT

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They lied about Iraq, waged an illegal war and then tortured the people
Posted by: cori on Apr 22, 2009 7:04 PM   
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They have been discussing the issue of torture and whether it was wrong or right but what they forgot to mention was that Bush and his gang of immoral thugs including Chaney's assisination team tortured and killed innocent people only it was in the wrong country and then after they killed ten's of thousands of innocent men, women and children and sent thousands of our troops home as invalids where they gave them lousy care if any at all, they stole ten's of billions of dollars after at least 4,000 of our young men and women died and are dying because most of them were poor and wanted a life after war. Now they have the goddamn nerve to try and justifty what they did, tortured and killed innocent people and lied about everything they did. Now our nation is in a shambles and they are still spending 10 billion per week on this stinking war. And here, in our "great" nation people are hanging by a thread with no health care, 1 in 50 are now homeless and many have lost everything and will never get it back. They should have Nuremberg trials for Bush, Chaney and Addington and they should all be sent to jail for the rest of their lives. They are criminals in every sense of the word. Everybody knows that torture doesn't work and it hasn't. And if they really wanted their precious information maybe they should have just shot the wife and kids infront of the suspects. How low and immoral will we let these guys go? Because of them we have not only become a poor nation with millions living and dying in the gutter, these acts of torture as a result of an illeagal war, will tarnish our reputation forever and has created more hate towards us around the world then ever before. They have made enemies by doing what they have done and just imagine if another nation did that to us to the same degree? They screwed all of us big time.

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I plan to try & get rid of the Blue Dogs that are stopping health care & everything Obama wants
Posted by: cori on Apr 22, 2009 7:59 PM   
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I plan to write to every small town paper of in each state telling the people who their representatives are really working for - coportate interests. They don't mind spending TRILLIONS on Wall St and wars but they don't want Obama to give us anything to get out of this mess. These are the same guys who supported the right wing torture agenda and they have to go. The people in those states don't get it and I plan to try and spread the world. These guys say Obama is spending to much on main street but they had no problem spending trillions on wall street and the wars. And we can just go to hell cause thats where many have already ended up because of them. People need to know what these Blue Dogs are up to and for them its not about Main Street, it's about Wall Street. Senators like Mark Udull, Mark Pryor, and Blanche Lincoln - look them up and write a letter

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How complacent and pathetic has our nation become
Posted by: democracynowiniraq on Apr 22, 2009 10:30 PM   
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when somehow we now view the very perpetrators of 9/11 as the poor, innocent victims?? Did any of you lose anyone on 9/11?? No I didn't think so.

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Torture ---> Put the Perpetrators on TRIAL
Posted by: A. Z. Arrow on Apr 25, 2009 7:56 AM   
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A toothless "Truth Commission" insures a cover-up and future occurrences of these sicko activities.

Torture is a national disgrace, it is also illegal: The “Nuremberg defense” will not do -"I was only following orders." Well, who gave these orders? Who authorized the use of torture? The law requires that those who colluded with these crimes be investigate, charged, brought to trail, and, if found guilty, sentenced --CIA operatives, private contractors, and Bush administration officials included. There is no debate on this. Torture is a violation of the Geneva Convention that the United States Government initiated, help draft, and signed, along with other nations, on the dotted line. The US has imposed compliance with Geneva in its' treaties and military alliances with other nations. Further, United States law makes it obligatory that Eric Holder bring charges against those responsible for the crime of torture. If Holder and/or Obama do not comply with these laws then they are engaged in a cover-up.

We are better than Israeli's and other violators of human rights

A.Z. Arrow >Citizen of Vermont
4/25/09
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