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"People Shouldn't Have to Live Like This": The Real Story Behind "Tent City" -- and How the Media Get It Wrong
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Over the past few months, reporters from around the world have flocked to the now-famous tent city in Sacramento, Calif. When they find out that 55-year-old John Kraintz has been living in a tent for almost seven years, they turn around and walk away.
"They don't want to talk to me," he says. "They're searching for people who just lost their homes. It's kinda tough to lose a home when you've never owned one. Sorry, but most of the people here have been homeless for a long time."
A tall and lanky man with a long beard tied in a ponytail, Kraintz is one of 100-200 people who have been told to leave the homeless camp between Sacramento's Blue Diamond Almond factory and the American River.
Kraintz and so many other homeless people like him have been living in scattered Sacramento encampments for years, but they've been largely ignored and hidden from public view. That is, until Lisa Ling, a reporter with the Oprah show, came to town in late February to focus on what Oprah Winfrey called the "new faces" of homelessness.
The show reported -- inaccurately -- that an estimated 1,200 people in Sacramento are living in tent cities after losing their jobs and homes. According to Loaves & Fishes, a privately funded group that has been feeding the hungry and sheltering the homeless in Sacramento for 25 years, 1,226 people live on the streets of the city. Between 100 and 200 temporarily call tent city home.
Like Oprah, several national and international articles and TV pieces have falsely portrayed everyone in tent city as once-middle-class people driven to homelessness because of the economic meltdown.
"The credit crunch tent city which has returned to haunt America" is the headline of a March 6 piece in the London-based Mail Online. On March 20, the Los Angeles Times ran a piece called "In Sacramento's tent city, a torn economic fabric."
Joan Burke, Loaves & Fishes' advocacy director, says those headlines are misleading. The majority of Sacramento's homeless population suffer from physical disabilities, mental illness and drug and alcohol addictions.
"The media are trying to capture a very complex situation in a sound bite," she says. "We've had homelessness in this country for decades. Each person has his or her own circumstance, and you have to tease that out if you're going to address this problem. Why do we care so much for people who suffer for a short time versus those who suffer for a long time? What is that about?"
Over the past few months, Burke has been bombarded with media requests from as far away as Colombia, Hungary, Australia and the Philippines.
On one of the days I was there, I saw a German radio team, reporters from a French magazine and several local TV trucks. The majority of the people I met at tent city say reporters aren't asking the right questions.
"The other day, I heard a German reporter ask if this is happening because of the recent economic collapse," says Kraintz. "This has been happening for 30 years, but the powers that be have been able to pretend it doesn't exist. Why aren't reporters asking about flat wages, jobs being shipped overseas and the lack of affordable housing?"
Burke agrees, saying one of the many issues ignored in most articles about tent city and homelessness is the fact that poor people cannot afford housing, especially in an expensive state like California.
"People who are poor end up homeless through no fault of their own, but because people higher up on the food chain have made affordable housing a very scarce commodity," she says. "If we had sound housing policies and programs that helped people when they have a run of bad luck, we would not have a tent city."
Kraintz says he knew the system would finally blow up. It was just a matter of time. The question, according to him, is this: Do the powers that be have the political will to create a fairer, more just economic system?
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Apr 20, 2009 2:53 AM
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November 14, 2006, WRAP released a report that documents how more than 25 years of federal funding cuts to affordable housing have created the contemporary crisis of homelessness and near-homelessness. The report documents the correlation between radical cuts to programs administered by the US Dept. of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and the US Dept. of Agriculture (USDA), and the emergence of the massive episode of homelessness in the 1980s which continues today. It also demonstrates why federal responses to this nationwide crisis have consistently failed....
"Without Housing: Decades of Federal Housing Cutbacks, Massive Homelessness and Policy Failures," documents the correlation between these trends and the emergence of a new and massive episode of homelessness in the 1980s which continues today. It particularly focuses on radical cuts to programs administered by the US Dept. of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and the US Dept. of Agriculture (USDA), which administers funds for rural affordable housing.
HUD’s budget has dropped 65% since 1978, from over $83 billion to $29 billion in 2006.
The Emergency Shelter phenomenon was born the same year that HUD funding was at a drastic low point. In 1983, HUD’s budget was only $18 billion, the same year that general public emergency shelters began opening in cities nationwide.
HUD has spent $0 on new public housing, while more than 100,000 public housing units have been lost to demolition, sale, or other removal in the last ten years.
Federal housing subsidies are going to the wealthy. In 2004, 61 percent of these subsidies went to households earning more than $54,788, while only 27 percent went to households earning under $34,398.
More than 600,000 identified homeless students went to public schools in the 2003-2004 school year, according to the US Department of Education.
Federal support helps homeowners instead of poor people. In 2005, federal homeowner subsidies totaled more than $122 billion, while HUD outlays were only $31 billion – a difference of more than $91 billion.
http://www.sistersoftheroad.org/wa/sisters/info/991/
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Posted by: Annarisse on Apr 20, 2009 3:39 AM
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I can answer this question.
Those who have suffered for a long time have lost our sympathy because our perception is that they are responsible for staying down where they landed, even if they weren't responsible for getting there in the first place. It's the dark side of the American Dream. Anyone can make whatever they want of themselves through hard work. The dark side is that if you find you can't, it has to be because you haven't worked hard enough.
People who have fallen on sudden hard times still have all the habits of mind and speech that mark them as middle class, and they haven't had time to work their way up yet. They're in the middle of it. So they're in a perfect position for us to "help the poor help themselves."
It's discrimination based on social class.
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Posted by: lorenbliss on Apr 20, 2009 4:30 AM
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Hence we have U.S. capitalism’s equivalent to the Final Solution: its unwritten policy of exterminating the definitively unprofitable -- in other words, any of us who are disabled, elderly or chronically impoverished -- by what amounts to euthanasia by neglect and abandonment.
Moreover, such euthanasia is the functional common denominator that unites and explains the persistence of an entire plague of socioeconomic outrages: the housing shortage and the resultant chronic homelessness; the methodical denial of medical and dental care every other civilized nation provides its peoples without charge; the worsening malnutrition that underlies the national crisis of obesity; the industrial world’s worst public schools; and the abysmal lack of affordable public transport.
All of these outrages are endemic to capitalism, an intrinsic part of which is a working class so powerless we can be treated exactly as if we were the soulless machines the ruling class imagines us to be: worked until we break or wear out and then thrown away at no further cost.
This has always been the quintessence of capitalism but in the aftermath of 22 November 1963 its reality became increasingly obvious until it was proven beyond a scintilla of doubt by the murderous abandonment of Afro-American New Orleans to Katrina. After such a revealing escalation, not only is the reality of euthanasia by neglect and abandonment no longer debatable; the threat of the more conventional modes of Final Solution loom ever more frighteningly.
The point of course is that if we are to understand why in the wealthiest nation on earth there is chronic homelessness we must first ask ourselves how it serves the ruling class. We must ask the same question about bad schools, lack of transport, denial of medical and dental care, malnutrition, joblessness, the malevolent absence of a safety net all civilized peoples take for granted. How do all these conditions serve the ruling class?
If we answer this question truthfully we realize that in each instance the answer is death: that is, the elimination of people deemed unprofitable -- euthanasia by abandonment and neglect. And in the present economic climate, the media focus on homelessness might just bring us closer to recognition of this deadly core reality of capitalism and therefore to acknowledgement of the reality of class-struggle itself.
Which could indeed become the first step in a genuine national awakening…
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Posted by: The_Curmudgeon on Apr 20, 2009 4:49 AM
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Here's an example:
www.laprogressive.com/2009/04/08/it-is-as-bad-as-the-1930s/
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» MSM Afraid To Cover Bushville's!?! maybe its time to leave LA?
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» maybe its time to leave LA?
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''Wealth-Less Effect: Earning Well, Feeling Otherwise''
by Gary Fields
Monday, April 20, 2009
''Proposed Tax Increases on Six-Figure Earners Highlight Mounting Costs of Living -- and the Relativity of Prosperity
Ellen Parnell and her husband, Donald Parnell Jr., seem like the kind of well-off couple President Barack Obama has in mind when he suggests raising taxes on families earning more than $250,000 a year. A surgeon at Fort Sanders Sevier Medical Center in Sevierville, Tenn., he drives an Infiniti. They vacation at a beach resort every year.
Yet, right now he is working seven days a week. The car is more than a decade old, the vacation home in Sandestin, Fla., comes at a moderate weekly rate because members of Ms. Parnell's extended family own it. Her family of five would like more room than they have in their 2,500-square-foot home, yet they can't afford anything larger. The downturn has them skittish about paying for renovations.
"I'm not complaining, but the reality is Obama may call me wealthy, but I thought we were just good old middle class," says Ms. Parnell. "Our needs are being met, but we don't have a load of cash to cover wants."
And ''Already, many members of Congress are seeking to scale back some of the proposed tax increases, which call for raising the top federal tax rates to 36% from 33% on households earning $250,000 or above.
Wealth and comfort "depends on where you're coming from," said Lois Avitt, a sociologist and founding director of the Institute for Socio-Financial Studies in Charlottesville, Va. To a family earning $50,000, $250,000 is well off, but for the family earning $250,000, rising college and medical costs and dropping home values make the perception debatable.''
Yup, that's right WSJ says that Obama is hurting people making $250,000.00 per year.
And WSJ says he is hurting the ''MIDDLE CLASS''
Americans making $250,000.00 and up a year.
Can anyone define middle class ?
It looks like it's relative to your state of needs and wants these days.
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» This guy is a SURGEON, lives in TENNESSEE, and he is struggling on over $250K/year?
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Posted by: nismx on Apr 20, 2009 5:33 AM
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Revolution from the Greedy Bastards and Bitches mascarading as OUR UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.....
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Posted by: Robba29 on Apr 20, 2009 6:40 AM
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I think they covered it fairly well...with all the obvious tear jerker stuff and (I'm hoping not) fake concern from the reporter. But, for those who aren't familiar with this, it should catch you up.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Apr 20, 2009 7:01 AM
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When you talk about the PEOPLE of this country, we are one of the most charitable in the world; but when you talk about the captains of industry, finance and government, THAT'S where you find the freeze – and this is the one problem that underlies all the others.
We are two countries, but 90% of us live in that first one –– God bless us, one and all.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Apr 20, 2009 7:22 AM
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The result? A giant hydroelectric dam, one of the 7 Wonders of the Modern World, that has provided and will continue to provide irrigation water and electricity for centuries, paying back its investment many, many times over.
Every time I read of homelessness, construction workers turn up in the stories time and again. We need a WPA-type works program once more to repair our degenerating infrastructure and put construction workers back to work – and where those construction workers could start right now is building housing for themselves and the other homeless; housing made affordable, or even free when necessary, by government support and land donation. This is the kind of "bubble-up" investment America needs desperately right now – and the kind that will pay America back many times over in the future. There is no better investment than this.
There is nothing worse than a person who has no purpose in life; and nothing better, or stronger, or kinder, than a person – or nation – who has one.
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» Hoover Dam was started in 1930 before the creation of the WPA.
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Posted by: djnoll on Apr 20, 2009 7:49 AM
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1. when you are homeless, depression is the most dangerous thing you have to fear because it robs you of your ability to think, to care for yourself or your family, robs you of your dignity, and finally, it drives you to behaviors you never thought you would ever succumb to in a million years - crime, drugs, booze.
2. when you are homeless, you realize that all the programs are merely designed to keep you down because they only treat the symptoms of homelessness, not really offer any solutions to the problem
3. when you are homeless, you quickly learn that those who are suppose to help you will treat you like a sub-human who is somehow responsible for the loss of a job or an illness that put you on the street.
4. If you are an addict or an alcoholic or mentally ill, you are told to get treatment, but they never tell you how you are going to pay for it or where you will go once you are done with treatment, so you are once again back on the streets and back in the same old groove.
There are now programs being tried, such as Pathways to Housing that are finding great success in helping those who have substance abuse or mental health issues, and it is a program that should be closely examined. It provides housing first, then addresses the issues of treatment. They are finding that by just providing housing, the levels of abuse decline to a level where out-patient care (which is less expensive) can be covered by state health care programs and therefore, it more feasible and long-term.
I have spoken to my Congresswoman here and given her a copy of a proposal for a national homesteading act that would open up HUD held properties as well as BLM land to be used for homesteading by the homeless. It lays out a program that would allow for new inner city cores to be rebuilt from the abandoned buildings and new rural agricultural communities to be built in rural areas. It is a program that could be adapted to cities and states where there are lands and property seized for taxes if the local citizens would advocate for such programs. It would actually cost less than putting the homeless on welfare programs and could give them the opportunity to have homes and businesses or jobs which they have worked for, thereby restoring their dignity and making them productive citizens.
There are answers to the problem of homelessness, but as long as all we do as a society is treat the homeless as untouchables and do not offer solutions, only band-aids for the symptoms, we will never solve the problems of the homeless, whether the newly homeless or the chronically homeless.
By the way, I am homeless. I do not drink, drug, nor am I mentally ill. My husband lost his job nine months ago and I am disabled. We survive on my disability income and student loans because I am having to continue my education in order to become more employable at age 56. I am putting myself into debt in order to survive well past the age of 70. So, as I write this, understand - it is not the first time in my life that I have experienced being homeless, but now I know what to do, where to go, and how to get out. It is time we helped show others that it is possible and with the ability to do so, we can work together to solve homelessness as a problem in this nation.
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Posted by: sausage on Apr 20, 2009 8:36 AM
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Yeah, remember how the right wingers god, Ronald Reagan, started throwing anybody who was disabled by alcoholism, drug addiction and mental illness off SSI?
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Posted by: raginghormones on Apr 20, 2009 8:35 AM
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Next thing...a TV Movie of the Week!
Well...I got news for them. Homelessness has been ongoing for 30 years. And it REALLY got started big-time with the election of Reagan in 1980, and throughout the eighties it was well known--and dismissed--with alot of social and economic Darwinist excuses ("they're mostly drug addicts" or "they are mentally ill", etc. etc).
I can recall two movies even today from way back then: one was a tv movie starring Lucille Ball called "The Stone Pillow". And then there was John Carpenter's "They Live", a movie still very relevant today.
So..where is the big revelation, MSM? You've been friggin' ignoring the issues and going for the quick soundbites for the past 30 years!
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Posted by: Pop on Apr 20, 2009 10:53 AM
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The ones running the organizations make very excessive profit from the sweat and blood of their labor forse who they pay only survival wages so they must come back to work to live yet another day. The Capitalists do no earning, they brutally manipulate for their own excess. Capitalism makes even more of their evil profits through war, and the fear of it. The United States needs to make major changes where profit can't be the driver for war as it was in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and now even Pakistan. The Bush/Cheneys have long been in both oil and war materials where their hidden profits are hidden but very substantial. No war is good for any of the people actually fighting in them, but are brain washed by the profit takers. Just as we were conned by 9-11 that was a covert operation of our elite Capitalists.
Nothing that is done is "for the People" as they lie to the contrary. All of the on going wars are wars of Capitalist greed and for more power for their future, and not for the future of any "People".
The people of the streets, should be helped in what ever way that is necessary to where they can earn and enjoy the lives they now live in misery. Drunk or Drug habit? That can be fixed. Very many of the Capitalist Elites have those problems as well. They don't usually end up in a tent simply because they have money that they did not earn.
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Posted by: Pop on Apr 20, 2009 11:30 AM
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Middle Mofia Elite. 250.000+
Upper middle: 120,000 - 250,000
MiddleClass-Nornmal: 60,000 - 120,000
Lower Middle: 15,000 to 59,000
Poor: 0-15.000
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Subtitled: The Nine Stages of American Autogenocide.
She presents an interesting argument, which begins, "...American Autogenocide is the deliberate, systematic and legal murder of American citizens by socially-engineering the die-off of populations that are 'problematic' for the interests of wealth and power. Most victims prematurely die from social forces targeted at them to cause them to wear out by stress. This process is called 'Weathering Away' or 'Attrition By Stress.'"
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Posted by: wormfarmer on Apr 20, 2009 3:46 PM
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You think things are bad now? Let this pursuit of aggression continue. Pay attention to whats going on HERE!
TELL OBAMA TO LEAVE AF-PAK ALONE!
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Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Apr 20, 2009 5:07 PM
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FREE AMERICA
REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY
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Posted by: pursah on Apr 20, 2009 5:27 PM
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Poverty is a feminine thing. Women and father less children are the face of poverty. I hate to admit it but that idiot, Dan Quayle, was right. Women with kids working two of three minimum wage jobs can't make it economincally. They can't raise their kids right, either, because they are too tired and busy, thus the exponential rise in juvenile crime. Single motherhood for most SM's is definately NOT Murphy Brown. Here again, if birth control and abortion were readily and cheaply available, poverty and crime would decrease rapidly.
But of course, the diminishing of human suffering is contrary to the beliefs of the religious nuts who make the policy.
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Posted by: pursah on Apr 20, 2009 5:27 PM
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Poverty is a feminine thing. Women and father less children are the face of poverty. I hate to admit it but that idiot, Dan Quayle, was right. Women with kids working two of three minimum wage jobs can't make it economincally. They can't raise their kids right, either, because they are too tired and busy, thus the exponential rise in juvenile crime. Single motherhood for most SM's is definately NOT Murphy Brown. Here again, if birth control and abortion were readily and cheaply available, poverty and crime would decrease rapidly.
But of course, the diminishing of human suffering is contrary to the beliefs of the religious nuts who make the policy.
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Posted by: Beadmaster on Apr 20, 2009 7:00 PM
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There is no infrastructure at all to help the homeless, nor anything in place to keep it from happening. There are so many paths to it, and having been a victim myself, I can honestly say that if it does occur, it's like watching everything crumble before you. We did everything we could to avoid homelessness. Jobs (which didn't generate close to enough to pay the monthly bills, never mind the overdue bills that kept adding up from not having enough income to pay everything in the first place). Legal assistance to get our money back - forget it. Lawyers won't work for free, and if you have a tiny amount of income from jobs that don't come close to covering the monthly bills, then the "Legal Aid" types of organizations say you make "too much money."
We were lucky enough to have a halfway decent human services organization in our area, but they could do nothing to keep us from becoming homeless due to low income, nor could they provide us with temporary housing while we worked hard to pull ourselves out of it. Even welfare denied us. We were able to get the bare minimum of food stamps, but that was it.
We had been renting and our landlord did many illegal things to get us out. Nothing we could do about it. When eviction loomed over our heads, we managed to get limited legal advice over the phone from a legal services organization, but they would not represent us in court, because we made "too much money." Ultimately, the case went to court. The landlord lied, got us kicked out and got a hefty judgment for far more than we owed him, and when the illegal things he'd done were brought up, we were told the case wasn't about him, so it made no difference. Literally, he could have bodily walked into our home, trashed everything we owned and pushed us out onto the sidewalk, and nobody would have helped us. WTF.
So now the media is onto the Story of the Day - homelessness for people who haven't been homeless for long, and some who have made a poor choice to buy "too much house." Poor planning. I wonder how many of those people who have been homeless for years feel about being ignored in favor of the whiners of the day.
I'm not homeless, but it sure irks the hell out of me to have been ignored way back when, to watch it all crumble, and now to have to listen to the tide complaints of how "bad" it all is for those people. They made a choice. I don't care how insistent the mortgage brokers were that these deals were so great - we pulled ourselves out of homelessness by buying a mobile home. We would much rather have a "real" house, but we knew we couldn't afford it, no matter how glowingly the mortgage brokers would have talked. Period. It's called being realistic.
Funny how being realistic is just fine for those who are homeless when it's not "trendy," but now homelessness is such a "sad" problem, so the process of being unrealistic and thus causing such problems is forgivable, even pitiable.
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Posted by: gellero1 on Apr 20, 2009 7:24 PM
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Posted by: DaBear on Apr 21, 2009 2:08 AM
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This really chapped my ass... what a dumb question! Because non-profits don't pay people to work on their activism, they use VOLUNTEERS! Volunteers don't get paid cash money, bonehead middling class jerk! Only the owning classers who start the damned non-profits get paid! Don't you know anything?!
As a long-term volunteer-against-my-will I have to say if I had a god damned dime for every time some well meaning owning-class idiot asked me that very same question, I'd be a fucking billionaire.
If you're a member of the owning class, you just GOT to STOP being an idiot class-hole and start being a damned functional class-ally!
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Posted by: HoboHomo on Apr 21, 2009 2:53 AM
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I spit on their ugly mugs, and will dance on their graves.
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Posted by: downup on Apr 21, 2009 8:17 PM
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Posted by: haroldmh on Apr 23, 2009 2:18 PM
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"Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control."
Congress should move to withdraw its signature or, at minimum, declare its hypocracy. There is no evidence that it has any intention of living up to it's obligation.
Human Rights; bah humbug.
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Posted by: AlteredStates on Apr 27, 2009 1:50 PM
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I remember the JFK years very well. And, I remember the reactions some of the people had the day he was shot. Some were hurt and shocked, but some were glad that it happened, even before word came that JFK had, indeed, died.
I was in the U.S. Navy at the time, so, I was exposed to a wide cross section of the working class. The people who were glad Kennedy died were the hard- nosed, ignorant, hicks from the "southern" (as in Mason/Dixon) states. When the first reports were broadcast, it wasn't clear, yet, weather or not he had died. I remember one such person saying after the initial report said, that, he was "shot in the face". That person said," Good, I hope he dies; that Yankee motherfucker". So, you see, that, even if Kennedy had lived through his 4 or 8 year terms, there would always be some that hated him, even though Kennedy was trying to help the very same people that were of his stature (poor working class rural farmers, et al).
Yes, we are that "Third World Tyranny/Moron Nation Sweatshop, and we still have people like the one I just described above, who will hate someone they know nothing about. And, they will hate "the Kennedy's" forever. If you have any doubts, try going to a gun show and listen to the "idle chatter" as you pass by the various "booths" of people showing their "goods and wears". You would think that you were back in the pre-civil rights days of the 1950's.
Ignorance is ignorance, but, when you add all of human nature's negative attributes, you get a virulent, toxic, mess, very much like what we have right now. And, their is no cure for that.
I wish I had something good to say about our present state, but I've lived long enough to realize, that, there is no cure.
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Posted by: tom001 on Apr 27, 2009 9:20 PM
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With so many people who have been in and out of jail, the culture of American prisons is just waiting for the collapse of the economy and law and order to come out onto the streets. The culture within American prisons is a representation of the extent of chaos that will be seen in America during it's collapse.
America will soon be the next South Africa.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Apr 20, 2009 2:53 AM
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November 14, 2006, WRAP released a report that documents how more than 25 years of federal funding cuts to affordable housing have created the contemporary crisis of homelessness and near-homelessness. The report documents the correlation between radical cuts to programs administered by the US Dept. of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and the US Dept. of Agriculture (USDA), and the emergence of the massive episode of homelessness in the 1980s which continues today. It also demonstrates why federal responses to this nationwide crisis have consistently failed....
"Without Housing: Decades of Federal Housing Cutbacks, Massive Homelessness and Policy Failures," documents the correlation between these trends and the emergence of a new and massive episode of homelessness in the 1980s which continues today. It particularly focuses on radical cuts to programs administered by the US Dept. of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and the US Dept. of Agriculture (USDA), which administers funds for rural affordable housing.
HUD’s budget has dropped 65% since 1978, from over $83 billion to $29 billion in 2006.
The Emergency Shelter phenomenon was born the same year that HUD funding was at a drastic low point. In 1983, HUD’s budget was only $18 billion, the same year that general public emergency shelters began opening in cities nationwide.
HUD has spent $0 on new public housing, while more than 100,000 public housing units have been lost to demolition, sale, or other removal in the last ten years.
Federal housing subsidies are going to the wealthy. In 2004, 61 percent of these subsidies went to households earning more than $54,788, while only 27 percent went to households earning under $34,398.
More than 600,000 identified homeless students went to public schools in the 2003-2004 school year, according to the US Department of Education.
Federal support helps homeowners instead of poor people. In 2005, federal homeowner subsidies totaled more than $122 billion, while HUD outlays were only $31 billion – a difference of more than $91 billion.
http://www.sistersoftheroad.org/wa/sisters/info/991/
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Posted by: Annarisse on Apr 20, 2009 3:39 AM
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I can answer this question.
Those who have suffered for a long time have lost our sympathy because our perception is that they are responsible for staying down where they landed, even if they weren't responsible for getting there in the first place. It's the dark side of the American Dream. Anyone can make whatever they want of themselves through hard work. The dark side is that if you find you can't, it has to be because you haven't worked hard enough.
People who have fallen on sudden hard times still have all the habits of mind and speech that mark them as middle class, and they haven't had time to work their way up yet. They're in the middle of it. So they're in a perfect position for us to "help the poor help themselves."
It's discrimination based on social class.
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Posted by: lorenbliss on Apr 20, 2009 4:30 AM
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Hence we have U.S. capitalism’s equivalent to the Final Solution: its unwritten policy of exterminating the definitively unprofitable -- in other words, any of us who are disabled, elderly or chronically impoverished -- by what amounts to euthanasia by neglect and abandonment.
Moreover, such euthanasia is the functional common denominator that unites and explains the persistence of an entire plague of socioeconomic outrages: the housing shortage and the resultant chronic homelessness; the methodical denial of medical and dental care every other civilized nation provides its peoples without charge; the worsening malnutrition that underlies the national crisis of obesity; the industrial world’s worst public schools; and the abysmal lack of affordable public transport.
All of these outrages are endemic to capitalism, an intrinsic part of which is a working class so powerless we can be treated exactly as if we were the soulless machines the ruling class imagines us to be: worked until we break or wear out and then thrown away at no further cost.
This has always been the quintessence of capitalism but in the aftermath of 22 November 1963 its reality became increasingly obvious until it was proven beyond a scintilla of doubt by the murderous abandonment of Afro-American New Orleans to Katrina. After such a revealing escalation, not only is the reality of euthanasia by neglect and abandonment no longer debatable; the threat of the more conventional modes of Final Solution loom ever more frighteningly.
The point of course is that if we are to understand why in the wealthiest nation on earth there is chronic homelessness we must first ask ourselves how it serves the ruling class. We must ask the same question about bad schools, lack of transport, denial of medical and dental care, malnutrition, joblessness, the malevolent absence of a safety net all civilized peoples take for granted. How do all these conditions serve the ruling class?
If we answer this question truthfully we realize that in each instance the answer is death: that is, the elimination of people deemed unprofitable -- euthanasia by abandonment and neglect. And in the present economic climate, the media focus on homelessness might just bring us closer to recognition of this deadly core reality of capitalism and therefore to acknowledgement of the reality of class-struggle itself.
Which could indeed become the first step in a genuine national awakening…
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Posted by: The_Curmudgeon on Apr 20, 2009 4:49 AM
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Here's an example:
www.laprogressive.com/2009/04/08/it-is-as-bad-as-the-1930s/
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» maybe its time to leave LA?
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Posted by: timenotonmyside on Apr 20, 2009 5:22 AM
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''Wealth-Less Effect: Earning Well, Feeling Otherwise''
by Gary Fields
Monday, April 20, 2009
''Proposed Tax Increases on Six-Figure Earners Highlight Mounting Costs of Living -- and the Relativity of Prosperity
Ellen Parnell and her husband, Donald Parnell Jr., seem like the kind of well-off couple President Barack Obama has in mind when he suggests raising taxes on families earning more than $250,000 a year. A surgeon at Fort Sanders Sevier Medical Center in Sevierville, Tenn., he drives an Infiniti. They vacation at a beach resort every year.
Yet, right now he is working seven days a week. The car is more than a decade old, the vacation home in Sandestin, Fla., comes at a moderate weekly rate because members of Ms. Parnell's extended family own it. Her family of five would like more room than they have in their 2,500-square-foot home, yet they can't afford anything larger. The downturn has them skittish about paying for renovations.
"I'm not complaining, but the reality is Obama may call me wealthy, but I thought we were just good old middle class," says Ms. Parnell. "Our needs are being met, but we don't have a load of cash to cover wants."
And ''Already, many members of Congress are seeking to scale back some of the proposed tax increases, which call for raising the top federal tax rates to 36% from 33% on households earning $250,000 or above.
Wealth and comfort "depends on where you're coming from," said Lois Avitt, a sociologist and founding director of the Institute for Socio-Financial Studies in Charlottesville, Va. To a family earning $50,000, $250,000 is well off, but for the family earning $250,000, rising college and medical costs and dropping home values make the perception debatable.''
Yup, that's right WSJ says that Obama is hurting people making $250,000.00 per year.
And WSJ says he is hurting the ''MIDDLE CLASS''
Americans making $250,000.00 and up a year.
Can anyone define middle class ?
It looks like it's relative to your state of needs and wants these days.
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» This guy is a SURGEON, lives in TENNESSEE, and he is struggling on over $250K/year?
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Posted by: nismx on Apr 20, 2009 5:33 AM
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Revolution from the Greedy Bastards and Bitches mascarading as OUR UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.....
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Posted by: Robba29 on Apr 20, 2009 6:40 AM
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I think they covered it fairly well...with all the obvious tear jerker stuff and (I'm hoping not) fake concern from the reporter. But, for those who aren't familiar with this, it should catch you up.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Apr 20, 2009 7:01 AM
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When you talk about the PEOPLE of this country, we are one of the most charitable in the world; but when you talk about the captains of industry, finance and government, THAT'S where you find the freeze – and this is the one problem that underlies all the others.
We are two countries, but 90% of us live in that first one –– God bless us, one and all.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Apr 20, 2009 7:22 AM
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The result? A giant hydroelectric dam, one of the 7 Wonders of the Modern World, that has provided and will continue to provide irrigation water and electricity for centuries, paying back its investment many, many times over.
Every time I read of homelessness, construction workers turn up in the stories time and again. We need a WPA-type works program once more to repair our degenerating infrastructure and put construction workers back to work – and where those construction workers could start right now is building housing for themselves and the other homeless; housing made affordable, or even free when necessary, by government support and land donation. This is the kind of "bubble-up" investment America needs desperately right now – and the kind that will pay America back many times over in the future. There is no better investment than this.
There is nothing worse than a person who has no purpose in life; and nothing better, or stronger, or kinder, than a person – or nation – who has one.
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Posted by: djnoll on Apr 20, 2009 7:49 AM
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1. when you are homeless, depression is the most dangerous thing you have to fear because it robs you of your ability to think, to care for yourself or your family, robs you of your dignity, and finally, it drives you to behaviors you never thought you would ever succumb to in a million years - crime, drugs, booze.
2. when you are homeless, you realize that all the programs are merely designed to keep you down because they only treat the symptoms of homelessness, not really offer any solutions to the problem
3. when you are homeless, you quickly learn that those who are suppose to help you will treat you like a sub-human who is somehow responsible for the loss of a job or an illness that put you on the street.
4. If you are an addict or an alcoholic or mentally ill, you are told to get treatment, but they never tell you how you are going to pay for it or where you will go once you are done with treatment, so you are once again back on the streets and back in the same old groove.
There are now programs being tried, such as Pathways to Housing that are finding great success in helping those who have substance abuse or mental health issues, and it is a program that should be closely examined. It provides housing first, then addresses the issues of treatment. They are finding that by just providing housing, the levels of abuse decline to a level where out-patient care (which is less expensive) can be covered by state health care programs and therefore, it more feasible and long-term.
I have spoken to my Congresswoman here and given her a copy of a proposal for a national homesteading act that would open up HUD held properties as well as BLM land to be used for homesteading by the homeless. It lays out a program that would allow for new inner city cores to be rebuilt from the abandoned buildings and new rural agricultural communities to be built in rural areas. It is a program that could be adapted to cities and states where there are lands and property seized for taxes if the local citizens would advocate for such programs. It would actually cost less than putting the homeless on welfare programs and could give them the opportunity to have homes and businesses or jobs which they have worked for, thereby restoring their dignity and making them productive citizens.
There are answers to the problem of homelessness, but as long as all we do as a society is treat the homeless as untouchables and do not offer solutions, only band-aids for the symptoms, we will never solve the problems of the homeless, whether the newly homeless or the chronically homeless.
By the way, I am homeless. I do not drink, drug, nor am I mentally ill. My husband lost his job nine months ago and I am disabled. We survive on my disability income and student loans because I am having to continue my education in order to become more employable at age 56. I am putting myself into debt in order to survive well past the age of 70. So, as I write this, understand - it is not the first time in my life that I have experienced being homeless, but now I know what to do, where to go, and how to get out. It is time we helped show others that it is possible and with the ability to do so, we can work together to solve homelessness as a problem in this nation.
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Posted by: sausage on Apr 20, 2009 8:36 AM
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Yeah, remember how the right wingers god, Ronald Reagan, started throwing anybody who was disabled by alcoholism, drug addiction and mental illness off SSI?
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Posted by: raginghormones on Apr 20, 2009 8:35 AM
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Next thing...a TV Movie of the Week!
Well...I got news for them. Homelessness has been ongoing for 30 years. And it REALLY got started big-time with the election of Reagan in 1980, and throughout the eighties it was well known--and dismissed--with alot of social and economic Darwinist excuses ("they're mostly drug addicts" or "they are mentally ill", etc. etc).
I can recall two movies even today from way back then: one was a tv movie starring Lucille Ball called "The Stone Pillow". And then there was John Carpenter's "They Live", a movie still very relevant today.
So..where is the big revelation, MSM? You've been friggin' ignoring the issues and going for the quick soundbites for the past 30 years!
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Posted by: Pop on Apr 20, 2009 10:53 AM
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The ones running the organizations make very excessive profit from the sweat and blood of their labor forse who they pay only survival wages so they must come back to work to live yet another day. The Capitalists do no earning, they brutally manipulate for their own excess. Capitalism makes even more of their evil profits through war, and the fear of it. The United States needs to make major changes where profit can't be the driver for war as it was in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and now even Pakistan. The Bush/Cheneys have long been in both oil and war materials where their hidden profits are hidden but very substantial. No war is good for any of the people actually fighting in them, but are brain washed by the profit takers. Just as we were conned by 9-11 that was a covert operation of our elite Capitalists.
Nothing that is done is "for the People" as they lie to the contrary. All of the on going wars are wars of Capitalist greed and for more power for their future, and not for the future of any "People".
The people of the streets, should be helped in what ever way that is necessary to where they can earn and enjoy the lives they now live in misery. Drunk or Drug habit? That can be fixed. Very many of the Capitalist Elites have those problems as well. They don't usually end up in a tent simply because they have money that they did not earn.
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Posted by: Pop on Apr 20, 2009 11:30 AM
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Middle Mofia Elite. 250.000+
Upper middle: 120,000 - 250,000
MiddleClass-Nornmal: 60,000 - 120,000
Lower Middle: 15,000 to 59,000
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Posted by: GuitarBill on Apr 20, 2009 2:00 PM
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Subtitled: The Nine Stages of American Autogenocide.
She presents an interesting argument, which begins, "...American Autogenocide is the deliberate, systematic and legal murder of American citizens by socially-engineering the die-off of populations that are 'problematic' for the interests of wealth and power. Most victims prematurely die from social forces targeted at them to cause them to wear out by stress. This process is called 'Weathering Away' or 'Attrition By Stress.'"
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Posted by: wormfarmer on Apr 20, 2009 3:46 PM
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You think things are bad now? Let this pursuit of aggression continue. Pay attention to whats going on HERE!
TELL OBAMA TO LEAVE AF-PAK ALONE!
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Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Apr 20, 2009 5:07 PM
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FREE AMERICA
REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY
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Posted by: pursah on Apr 20, 2009 5:27 PM
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Poverty is a feminine thing. Women and father less children are the face of poverty. I hate to admit it but that idiot, Dan Quayle, was right. Women with kids working two of three minimum wage jobs can't make it economincally. They can't raise their kids right, either, because they are too tired and busy, thus the exponential rise in juvenile crime. Single motherhood for most SM's is definately NOT Murphy Brown. Here again, if birth control and abortion were readily and cheaply available, poverty and crime would decrease rapidly.
But of course, the diminishing of human suffering is contrary to the beliefs of the religious nuts who make the policy.
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Posted by: pursah on Apr 20, 2009 5:27 PM
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Poverty is a feminine thing. Women and father less children are the face of poverty. I hate to admit it but that idiot, Dan Quayle, was right. Women with kids working two of three minimum wage jobs can't make it economincally. They can't raise their kids right, either, because they are too tired and busy, thus the exponential rise in juvenile crime. Single motherhood for most SM's is definately NOT Murphy Brown. Here again, if birth control and abortion were readily and cheaply available, poverty and crime would decrease rapidly.
But of course, the diminishing of human suffering is contrary to the beliefs of the religious nuts who make the policy.
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» Women REFUSE to accept responsibility
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Posted by: Beadmaster on Apr 20, 2009 7:00 PM
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There is no infrastructure at all to help the homeless, nor anything in place to keep it from happening. There are so many paths to it, and having been a victim myself, I can honestly say that if it does occur, it's like watching everything crumble before you. We did everything we could to avoid homelessness. Jobs (which didn't generate close to enough to pay the monthly bills, never mind the overdue bills that kept adding up from not having enough income to pay everything in the first place). Legal assistance to get our money back - forget it. Lawyers won't work for free, and if you have a tiny amount of income from jobs that don't come close to covering the monthly bills, then the "Legal Aid" types of organizations say you make "too much money."
We were lucky enough to have a halfway decent human services organization in our area, but they could do nothing to keep us from becoming homeless due to low income, nor could they provide us with temporary housing while we worked hard to pull ourselves out of it. Even welfare denied us. We were able to get the bare minimum of food stamps, but that was it.
We had been renting and our landlord did many illegal things to get us out. Nothing we could do about it. When eviction loomed over our heads, we managed to get limited legal advice over the phone from a legal services organization, but they would not represent us in court, because we made "too much money." Ultimately, the case went to court. The landlord lied, got us kicked out and got a hefty judgment for far more than we owed him, and when the illegal things he'd done were brought up, we were told the case wasn't about him, so it made no difference. Literally, he could have bodily walked into our home, trashed everything we owned and pushed us out onto the sidewalk, and nobody would have helped us. WTF.
So now the media is onto the Story of the Day - homelessness for people who haven't been homeless for long, and some who have made a poor choice to buy "too much house." Poor planning. I wonder how many of those people who have been homeless for years feel about being ignored in favor of the whiners of the day.
I'm not homeless, but it sure irks the hell out of me to have been ignored way back when, to watch it all crumble, and now to have to listen to the tide complaints of how "bad" it all is for those people. They made a choice. I don't care how insistent the mortgage brokers were that these deals were so great - we pulled ourselves out of homelessness by buying a mobile home. We would much rather have a "real" house, but we knew we couldn't afford it, no matter how glowingly the mortgage brokers would have talked. Period. It's called being realistic.
Funny how being realistic is just fine for those who are homeless when it's not "trendy," but now homelessness is such a "sad" problem, so the process of being unrealistic and thus causing such problems is forgivable, even pitiable.
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Posted by: gellero1 on Apr 20, 2009 7:24 PM
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Posted by: DaBear on Apr 21, 2009 2:08 AM
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This really chapped my ass... what a dumb question! Because non-profits don't pay people to work on their activism, they use VOLUNTEERS! Volunteers don't get paid cash money, bonehead middling class jerk! Only the owning classers who start the damned non-profits get paid! Don't you know anything?!
As a long-term volunteer-against-my-will I have to say if I had a god damned dime for every time some well meaning owning-class idiot asked me that very same question, I'd be a fucking billionaire.
If you're a member of the owning class, you just GOT to STOP being an idiot class-hole and start being a damned functional class-ally!
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Posted by: HoboHomo on Apr 21, 2009 2:53 AM
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I spit on their ugly mugs, and will dance on their graves.
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» RE: F*ck the middle class...
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» RE: F*ck the middle class...
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Posted by: downup on Apr 21, 2009 8:17 PM
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Posted by: haroldmh on Apr 23, 2009 2:18 PM
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"Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control."
Congress should move to withdraw its signature or, at minimum, declare its hypocracy. There is no evidence that it has any intention of living up to it's obligation.
Human Rights; bah humbug.
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Posted by: AlteredStates on Apr 27, 2009 1:50 PM
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I remember the JFK years very well. And, I remember the reactions some of the people had the day he was shot. Some were hurt and shocked, but some were glad that it happened, even before word came that JFK had, indeed, died.
I was in the U.S. Navy at the time, so, I was exposed to a wide cross section of the working class. The people who were glad Kennedy died were the hard- nosed, ignorant, hicks from the "southern" (as in Mason/Dixon) states. When the first reports were broadcast, it wasn't clear, yet, weather or not he had died. I remember one such person saying after the initial report said, that, he was "shot in the face". That person said," Good, I hope he dies; that Yankee motherfucker". So, you see, that, even if Kennedy had lived through his 4 or 8 year terms, there would always be some that hated him, even though Kennedy was trying to help the very same people that were of his stature (poor working class rural farmers, et al).
Yes, we are that "Third World Tyranny/Moron Nation Sweatshop, and we still have people like the one I just described above, who will hate someone they know nothing about. And, they will hate "the Kennedy's" forever. If you have any doubts, try going to a gun show and listen to the "idle chatter" as you pass by the various "booths" of people showing their "goods and wears". You would think that you were back in the pre-civil rights days of the 1950's.
Ignorance is ignorance, but, when you add all of human nature's negative attributes, you get a virulent, toxic, mess, very much like what we have right now. And, their is no cure for that.
I wish I had something good to say about our present state, but I've lived long enough to realize, that, there is no cure.
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Posted by: tom001 on Apr 27, 2009 9:20 PM
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With so many people who have been in and out of jail, the culture of American prisons is just waiting for the collapse of the economy and law and order to come out onto the streets. The culture within American prisons is a representation of the extent of chaos that will be seen in America during it's collapse.
America will soon be the next South Africa.
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