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Tasers Are the New Killers: Watch Their Popularity Surge!

By Liliana Segura, AlterNet. Posted April 2, 2009.


Watch out: 50,000-volt Tasers are deployed in London this week; meanwhile, a new model can 'instantly incapacitate' multiple people at a time.
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As protesters descend upon London's financial district to demonstrate the G-20 summit this week, they are being met by thousands of Metropolitan police officers carrying out what has repeatedly been described as the biggest police operation ever undertaken in the capital. Pre-emptive arrests were made earlier this week and despite the mainly nonviolent protests -- overshadowed by media reports of a "seige" on the Bank of England -- by Wednesday night, more than 60 people had been arrested and one man was dead.

Police in London have been gearing up for these clashes for months, attracting press attention for the “unprecedented” security deployment and the various tools at their disposal. Among them are so-called "non-lethal weapons" of the sort that have become biquitous crowd control devices. "Scotland Yard is to deploy officers armed with 50,000-volt Taser stun guns to deal with violent demonstrators," the Times Online reported earlier this week, noting that police were gearing up for any "anarchist elements" "likely to stir up trouble."

Months after the Republican National Convention in the U.S., such sweeping security measures may seem to be par for the course. But in the UK -- where police forces have traditionally not carried guns -- it was not that long ago that Tasers were new to the streets. Since their arrival in the spring of 2003, however, their popularity has skyrocketed; last fall, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith unveiled a plan to spend £8 million on Tasers and Taser training for 30,000 police officers, providing some 10,000 new Tasers to police across England and Wales. "I am proud that we have one of the few police services around the world that do not regularly carry firearms," Smith said, "and I want to keep it that way." But an arms expert at Amnesty International UK called the move "a dangerous step in British policing," citing "numerous" taser deaths in North America as a cautionary example.

Meanwhile in the U.S., such fatalities continue. Last month, a Michigan teenager died after police tasered him, one day short of his 16th birthday.

It would be preposterous at this point for anyone with access to the news media to claim that Tasers are the safe policing tools they are marketed as. Yet Taser International, the corporation that makes them, continues to market this dangerous -- and lucrative -- myth. On March 31, the company's latest Taser model -- called the Shockwave -- hit the market; according to Taser International website, it "allows for both increased safety and stand-off capability during hostile situations, minimizing risk with a stand-off distance of up to 100 meters." But as Dalia Hashad, director of Amnesty International’s USA Program focusing on domestic human rights, wrote about the product last fall, the Shockwave "belongs in my 'You've Got to Be Kidding' file along with Taser International's leopard-print MP3 player that doubles as a taser and their employment of Playboy Bunnies for promotion." The company's literature shows it to be a powerful crowd-control weapon:

"With the push of a button at a stand-off distance of up to 100 meters, the Shockwave unit deploys multiple standard TASER® cartridges that are oriented across an area arc. Full area coverage is provided to instantaneously incapacitate multiple personnel within that region."


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tasers are lethal weapons
Posted by: masthead on Apr 2, 2009 12:16 AM   
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against certain people. the use of tasers by street thieves and gangs is up in some european countries. police are very concerned about it. they are used to threaten bus drivers or anyone to extort them for money or valuables, or sometimes just for the hell of it. they are illegal in the netherlands and if you are caught with one you're fined anywhere from 300 to 450 euros. that's no big deal if you're a criminal, you pay the fine and move on, buy another one in germany where they are easy to get.

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This article seems to imply banning taser guns outright.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Apr 2, 2009 3:12 AM   
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So there are some lethal ones, got it. However, I don't see the logic in banning them outright as they generally don't kill people. In fact, even the strict gun control advocates should welcome taser guns since they're a perfect compromise for defending oneself and yet not killing outright.

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» you'll notice something... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
Media in the Netherlands have also tried to depict Taser as non-lethal
Posted by: Aafje on Apr 2, 2009 3:17 AM   
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Some media in the Netherlands have also tried to depict Taser as a non-lethal weapon. Taser will be used in the Netherlands form May 1, 2009 during an experiment of 12 months by special arrest teams. See my article 'How the Dutch are won. Taser and the wandering ways of corporate media' at http://europeanfreepress.blogspot.com.

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Tasers Are Clearly Instruments of Torture. Torture is Illegal
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Apr 2, 2009 3:17 AM   
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Individuals within Governments who make the decisions to deploy Tasers should be Prosecuted as they are contravening International Law and contravening Article 5 of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Torture is Defined as any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a male or female person for such purposes as obtaining from him, or a third person, information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity.

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Dave (UK)
Posted by: D_Gold on Apr 2, 2009 4:56 AM   
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Unfortunately your first link is to an article that keeps on changing, and currently does not appear to support your point.

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No Tasers in SA, the criminals would laugh!
Posted by: Valis667 on Apr 2, 2009 4:57 AM   
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In South Africa the police don't use Tasers at all. Instead, they shoot to kill. This is official policy. The criminals here carry machineguns and rocket launchers, they would laugh at cops carrying Tasers.

As for crowd control; the old rubber bullets are widely used.

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THE LINK ABOVE IS IDENTITY THEFT!!
Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Apr 2, 2009 6:50 AM   
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IDENTITY THEFT!!!!

IDENTITY THEFT!!!!

DO NOT CLICK ON THE ABOVE LINK!!

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» Good job, AV! Posted by: GuitarBill
So let's correct the manufacturing and make them non-lethal once again.
Posted by: Benn_Miller on Apr 2, 2009 5:46 AM   
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If you know the manufacturers of those tasers that can be lethal, the least you can do is ask that they consider making less lethal ones that will still do the job without the killing part.

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Otto
Posted by: otto on Apr 2, 2009 5:56 AM   
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How long before "the peoples' reactions" become more violent and like guerilla warfare...like the actions of many so-called Taliban and Al-Queda? How long before some protesters begin setting traps for police, or bombing police stations, etc.? Violence ususally begets more violence.

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» RE: Otto Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
OK people....
Posted by: Marlena on Apr 2, 2009 7:06 AM   
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just when are you going to grasp that the main job of the police is to protect the ruling elites from the rest of us?? Just like their masters, they ues terror, intimidation and violence to keep those elites in power. And they are getting more blatant about using violence. Remember, Bonito Mussolini said "Fascism is better called Corporatism"

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Tasers cannot be made safe
Posted by: wwsword on Apr 2, 2009 7:22 AM   
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Tasers cannot be made safe because of the design purpose. The device is designed to paralyze muscles. Paralyzed people fall down unable to brace their falls. When the head of a person strikes pavement, injury is likely and death a real possibility.

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Proud Anarchist
Posted by: tjcoop3 on Apr 2, 2009 7:21 AM   
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Let us begin to encourage all protestors to carry these" non-lethal" forms of protection for use against police who become violent. Watch how quickly the rhetoric about the safety of Tasers would change. Govt. will use whatever tactic it deems necessary to maintain it's power. Govt., including Obama's, will always default to violence to keep power. Don't believe me? Just keep watching.

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Police still insist that Tasers "do not kill"
Posted by: vioibi on Apr 2, 2009 7:22 AM   
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In Canada last year a man at Vancouver airport was tasered 4 times and died. He was being unruly and when the RCMP arrived he was still yelling but his behaviour was changing. He was actually on the floor when he was first tasered. Footage of the event was shown (many times) all over Canada. It was awful. At the trial, the officers, who were involved in this incident, testified that they had to use this force to contain this man. Footage however clearly shows that the victim was becoming submissive but he was tasered anyway. Here in Toronto it was announced that the transit police would be issued tasers. Due to public outcry that idea was quickly abandoned. There is no such thing as a safe taser. When people are extremely agitated their bodies are full of the stress hormone cortisol. A high voltage shock is more than the stressed body can bear and results in death. Police should not be allowed to use tasers, at any voltage.

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» ...was tasered 4 times and died. Posted by: Bliss Doubt
Wonderful
Posted by: willymack on Apr 2, 2009 7:45 AM   
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Person-to-person contact, long on the wane, what with electronic communications of all kinds, has spilled over to zapping enemies, real and imaginary, at a distance. Our infallible "law enforcement" goons lead the way, supressing free expression and public airing of gripes at every opportunity. Brave new world. Let me off at the next exit, please.

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I'll bet there is a way to counter the taser making them ineffctual and
Posted by: Levon on Apr 2, 2009 8:09 AM   
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putting the company out of business.

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» 2006 article Posted by: Bliss Doubt
» RE: 2006 article Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
Paul Cardwell
Posted by: Paul Cardwell on Apr 2, 2009 8:09 AM   
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"Non-lethal" (even when they are not) weapons are popular mainly because they double so well as torture devices. They need to be as restricted as "lethal force" is.

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JT Barrie
Posted by: rimchamp77 on Apr 2, 2009 8:32 AM   
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You don't need to be a spinmeister to understand that taser deaths are to be expected. IF the taser is designed to disable someone like Duane "the rock" Johnson, it will do more serious damage to someone like Woody Allen. If they made these less lethal it would not faze someone like The Rock - but Woody would still be disabled. Tasers are like drugs: the more chronic the use the more likelihood of bad things happening. Deaths are not "unfortunate accidents": that's what tasers do. They are just less lethal than firing guns.
What sensible doctors recommend for chronic use is low dose drugs. Why not ramp down taser levels and save more lives. With tasers - like drugs - less is better. The question is: can police forgo a "quick fix" mentality for public safety? This questions presumes that police actually care about public safety. My bet is that weaker tasers are "not open for discussion" with law enforcement. Any takers?

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I Am Shocked!!
Posted by: melpol on Apr 2, 2009 8:42 AM   
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The problem of crowd control is solved in the U.S. without the use of Tasers. Rioting for extra goodies is rare. Programs like extended unemployment benefits and help with mortgage payments prevent riots. But the use of Tasers rather than lead bullets is a cost savings device. Each rioter wounded by gunfire costs the state thousands to hospitalize. A rioter stunned by a Taser cost the state only 1 buck. They can only be used once and must be recharged.

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» RE: I Am Shocked!! Posted by: tjcoop3
"Equal Opportunity" hiring
Posted by: billwald on Apr 2, 2009 9:43 AM   
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Prior to 1964 a police officer was expected to physically dominate suspects and arrest them which is why we had weight and height standards. Anyone large enough to fill the uniform could bluff his way out of a fight 98% percent of the time even if he couldn't fight. Since the Civil Rights Act of '64 police departments have been hiring feather weight females ( and males) who might be black belt judo experts but every drunk will have to find out for himself.

No one is intimidated and feather weight officers are afraid for their safety thus any suspect who even looks cross eyed at an officer gets zapped.

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» That's a bit too sexist here. Posted by: Benn_Miller
Tasing geriatrics... & other 'dangerous people'
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Apr 2, 2009 2:38 PM   
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because god only knows, the cops apparently fear everyone & everything...

& apparently don't have the social or non-violent conflict resolution skills to handle a problem without putting the pain...

Stunning 82-year-old hospital patient with Taser was justified: report

The problem is that our culture tells us to treat other people disrespectfully & to ENFORCE our Will on others, no matter what.

There are plenty of things one can do to subdue an aggressive geriatric... & simply tasing him...isn't the answer.

why don't they have other tools & skills: is because we DON'T DEMAND THEY ACQUIRE THEM...

we let them tell us they're the 'experts' on how to manage our societies...

um, they're experts on being suspicious, presuming guilt, collecting information & administering pain until we do as we're told.

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» That mofo had a knife Posted by: Ayla87
Why were THREE cops in a girls bedroom? ...& why was she freaking out?
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Apr 2, 2009 5:09 PM   
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gee, I wonder.

Like they couldn't have just covered the exits & had someone simply walk in? In the most extreme conditions, Judges don't rule something is without provocation... if there is a chance of

Halifax judge slams police for using Taser on teen girl
Last Updated: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 | 10:01 AM AT
CBC News
"A Halifax Youth Court judge criticized three police officers Tuesday for their arrest of a teenage girl, who was tackled in her own bed and shocked twice with a stun gun last February.

"The spectacle of a 17-year-old girl being Tasered in her bedroom is a very disturbing and disconcerting one," Halifax Youth Court Judge Anne Derrick said in her ruling on the charges of resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer.

"I find the police acted outside the scope of their authority in arresting [the girl] and that she was entitled to resist and committed no offence in doing so, and I acquit her of the charges before the court."

Derrick also found that the police escalated the situation leading to the arrest.


The teenager, whose identity is protected by the Youth Criminal Justice Act, testified at trial that being struck by the jolt from the Taser felt like having a "burning, open cut."
..."
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Halifax teen girl’s tasering was "by the book," police insist
February 1, 2008
DAVENE JEFFREY, Halifax Chronicle Herald
"...Constables Philip MacKenzie, Tara Doiron and Brendan Harvey answered a call from a woman who wanted her angry teenage daughter out of the house before she caused damage. The 17-year-old had been arguing on the telephone with a younger sister, who had taken her purse. The officers testified that they had been told the older girl wanted to get even. When the 17-year-old refused to come downstairs, the officers went upstairs to her room. The girl was standing quietly by a window, and nothing had been damaged.

Const. MacKenzie tried to convince the girl to leave the home, but she refused and became angry. The officers admitted that they had no authority to arrest the girl at that point. Judge Derrick said that the officers should have backed off and spoken further to the girl’s mother. "By not leaving the bedroom that evening, the police set up the circumstances for an intense confrontation," she said.


According to the officers’ evidence, an intense confrontation is what they got. Const. MacKenzie testified that when he reached for the girl’s arm, she swung at him. He said he then pushed her onto the bed. The girl said she snatched her arm away and was pushed to the bed. All agree that the girl began fighting, trying to get two officers off of her. They got a cuff on one of her hands but couldn’t get hold of the other hand.

The girl, who was described as average-size, was yelling, swearing, spitting and growling, the officers testified. That’s when Const. MacKenzie told Const. Harvey to use his stun gun.

"I took off the cartridge and dry-Tasered or touch-Tased her in the lower back," Const. Harvey said. "The idea is just pain compliance to gain compliance for the arrest."




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» Thanks for the links on more info. Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
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» Spam Posted by: Bliss Doubt
Here's some shocking concerns
Posted by: common intelligence on Apr 2, 2009 5:24 PM   
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1. What happened to "Bring'm Back Alive?"
Wild life can be captured and brought back alive with no problem.
• Why are the same methods not deployed by Law enforcement?
• Why does no one make a class action effort and make the "Attorney's General" from all states address this.

2. It's like the Mt. Lions spotted in urban sprawl,
The "police" of all "officials show up and have only one method with anything ..KILL IT.

What is wrong with simply trapping them , Or people for that matter?

3. Now how come people, that's you and others so concerned about Tasers, making an selling Taser shields to go into police invaded areas?
Is it against the law to guard yourself from lethal weapons?

4.Actually, Bullets can be "not lethal" if the bastards shooting could aim for non vital parts.
But Tasers are non discriminating in where their energy transmits.


Is it against the law to own bullet proof vests?
Really. Going into a potentially dangerous situation unprepared is simply stupid. That includes any gathering of masses including baseball games. Shit happens!
Remember that bloke that was questioning Senator Kerry?
"Don't Taze me Bro-" ZAP your down sucka! Totally unnecessary.
Oh, an Kerry didn't make one afforded concern for the guys well being.
Man, I don't trust one f*ck politician to give a rats ass for the wealfare of the people.

I for one have actually created my own Taser proof body armor.

Well, I have to go back to work and put my suit on now. And I now always wear my Armor!

You people have to start being warriors and stop being stupid. The war has been on for awhile. You just are as much in denial as the rest of the sheeple. Darwins Law still applies to idiots that throw themselves in harms way.

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THE POLICE AIN'T WHAT THEY USED TO BE.
Posted by: theblackgeorgecarlin on Apr 2, 2009 7:42 PM   
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The police in this nation are becoming more and more militarized and brutal. They don't give a fuck about citizens anymore, they want to protect their WASPy corporate masters, the people that run this nation, and see the citizens as a threat. Spending on fire arms,like H&K MP5s,AR-15s, heavy duty stuff have increased the last eight years, the police are attacking average people that most of us won't consider criminals. The murder of Oscar Grant in Oakland, the murder of a 82 year old grandma in Atlanta, and countless other murders and abuses(most of them against Blacks and other minorities) are increasing, and more and more the cops are getting off scot free. More and more law abiding citizens are getting punished, such as protestors and anyone that speaks ill of government policy or officials, are getting abused and assaulted.
Listen I don't hate the police, but there is this siege mentality among police officers that is disturbing, alot of cops were the kids that were bullies in high school or sadist that like abusing people. We need to teach respect and decency and screen out those highly dysfunctional people in the police force.

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Somehow these units need to be made illegal
Posted by: phindrup on Apr 2, 2009 7:49 PM   
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It seems to me that there are two issues: one, it ought not be all that difficult to create something lightweight to be worn that would short these units out.
Two, I would regard anybody attempting to taser me in the same light as I would somebody attempting to shoot me — that means that I shoot back.

The ‘torture’ idea appears to have some merit, perhaps some of the civil rights outfits who have legal expertise on tap might look into this aspect.

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why doesn't somebody put in the effort
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Apr 2, 2009 8:23 PM   
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to make a tasp?

#@!

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» Unproductive Posted by: LazyEight
Taser homophobes!
Posted by: HoboHomo on Apr 3, 2009 2:21 AM   
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Really.

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Rabbit
Posted by: arabbit on Apr 3, 2009 3:12 PM   
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Any voltage across the heart can kill you. It can be 5 or 50,000 volts. Electrical engineers know this. So does the Taser company.

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» RE: abbit - So WHAT Posted by: ds1st
civile libertieis
Posted by: abdo46 on Apr 5, 2009 9:01 AM   
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the massive crack on people's rights is far more worrisome, as many readers pointed out. The police using blunt force to prevent descent. The demonstrator are saying, we do not like the way our government spending our tax money to keep alive a bankrupt economic system.

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CognitiveLiberty
Posted by: nepkp on Apr 5, 2009 3:06 PM   
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Tasers are nothing short of torture devices. You only have to watch one episode of "COPS" (more aptly named "PIGS") to see someone get tased unnecessarily. I admit I would rather be tased than shot, but tasers are used on unarmed people, when shooting the person would get the cops in trouble. This Shockwave thing sounds pretty scary, another example of the growing police-state mind set, mainly fueled by the inane Dope's War. I can hardly believe that 40 years after Nixon, with prisons overflowing, gangs out of control, still trying to tell people what drugs to take, that they refuse to see that prohibition itself is the problem! End the drug war, end a lot of social problems with it. How long can the present trends continue? I only hope I live to see the end of it!

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tasers are lethal weapons
Posted by: ds1st on Apr 15, 2009 5:53 PM   
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Tasers are lethal weapons - GOOD.

Taser Away...

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