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Tasers Are the New Killers: Watch Their Popularity Surge!
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As protesters descend upon London's financial district to demonstrate the G-20 summit this week, they are being met by thousands of Metropolitan police officers carrying out what has repeatedly been described as the biggest police operation ever undertaken in the capital. Pre-emptive arrests were made earlier this week and despite the mainly nonviolent protests -- overshadowed by media reports of a "seige" on the Bank of England -- by Wednesday night, more than 60 people had been arrested and one man was dead.
Police in London have been gearing up for these clashes for months, attracting press attention for the “unprecedented” security deployment and the various tools at their disposal. Among them are so-called "non-lethal weapons" of the sort that have become biquitous crowd control devices. "Scotland Yard is to deploy officers armed with 50,000-volt Taser stun guns to deal with violent demonstrators," the Times Online reported earlier this week, noting that police were gearing up for any "anarchist elements" "likely to stir up trouble."
Months after the Republican National Convention in the U.S., such sweeping security measures may seem to be par for the course. But in the UK -- where police forces have traditionally not carried guns -- it was not that long ago that Tasers were new to the streets. Since their arrival in the spring of 2003, however, their popularity has skyrocketed; last fall, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith unveiled a plan to spend £8 million on Tasers and Taser training for 30,000 police officers, providing some 10,000 new Tasers to police across England and Wales. "I am proud that we have one of the few police services around the world that do not regularly carry firearms," Smith said, "and I want to keep it that way." But an arms expert at Amnesty International UK called the move "a dangerous step in British policing," citing "numerous" taser deaths in North America as a cautionary example.
Meanwhile in the U.S., such fatalities continue. Last month, a Michigan teenager died after police tasered him, one day short of his 16th birthday.
It would be preposterous at this point for anyone with access to the news media to claim that Tasers are the safe policing tools they are marketed as. Yet Taser International, the corporation that makes them, continues to market this dangerous -- and lucrative -- myth. On March 31, the company's latest Taser model -- called the Shockwave -- hit the market; according to Taser International website, it "allows for both increased safety and stand-off capability during hostile situations, minimizing risk with a stand-off distance of up to 100 meters." But as Dalia Hashad, director of Amnesty International’s USA Program focusing on domestic human rights, wrote about the product last fall, the Shockwave "belongs in my 'You've Got to Be Kidding' file along with Taser International's leopard-print MP3 player that doubles as a taser and their employment of Playboy Bunnies for promotion." The company's literature shows it to be a powerful crowd-control weapon:
"With the push of a button at a stand-off distance of up to 100 meters, the Shockwave unit deploys multiple standard TASER® cartridges that are oriented across an area arc. Full area coverage is provided to instantaneously incapacitate multiple personnel within that region."
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» the civil liberties argument is perhaps the most important--the prevention of peaceful protest
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» Unfortunately, the "right" define civil liberties only in terms of gun rights.
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» RE: Hundreds of people have been killed by Tasers
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» What are you talking about??? They killed over 450 people in the US already last year alone!
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» Here is a sample of what I am talking about... If you can watch this...
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» I'll watch it tonight when I get back home and reevaluate. Thanks.
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» Ok, I got to see it. My apologies for the confusion.
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» you'll notice something...
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» I had to confirm that this really was so. Did get some links from the thread to look up and googled.
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Torture is Defined as any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a male or female person for such purposes as obtaining from him, or a third person, information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity.
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» 100% correct sir. Guns or tasers, it makes no difference. Well, tasers are actually worse. Here's wh
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» Disagree - Obama won't take on US police
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As for crowd control; the old rubber bullets are widely used.
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» RE: So let's correct the manufacturing and make them non-lethal once again.
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» Re: The original ones were made to subdue, not to kill - I got that confirmed from all the links on
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» Remember, not all cops are jackbooted thugs, many are good people...
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» Can you provide better paying jobs for these officers?
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» If they are willing to fire on unarmed civilians fighting for their rights.....
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» RE: Police still insist that Tasers "do not kill"
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» ...was tasered 4 times and died.
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What sensible doctors recommend for chronic use is low dose drugs. Why not ramp down taser levels and save more lives. With tasers - like drugs - less is better. The question is: can police forgo a "quick fix" mentality for public safety? This questions presumes that police actually care about public safety. My bet is that weaker tasers are "not open for discussion" with law enforcement. Any takers?
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No one is intimidated and feather weight officers are afraid for their safety thus any suspect who even looks cross eyed at an officer gets zapped.
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& apparently don't have the social or non-violent conflict resolution skills to handle a problem without putting the pain...
Stunning 82-year-old hospital patient with Taser was justified: report
The problem is that our culture tells us to treat other people disrespectfully & to ENFORCE our Will on others, no matter what.
There are plenty of things one can do to subdue an aggressive geriatric... & simply tasing him...isn't the answer.
why don't they have other tools & skills: is because we DON'T DEMAND THEY ACQUIRE THEM...
we let them tell us they're the 'experts' on how to manage our societies...
um, they're experts on being suspicious, presuming guilt, collecting information & administering pain until we do as we're told.
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Like they couldn't have just covered the exits & had someone simply walk in? In the most extreme conditions, Judges don't rule something is without provocation... if there is a chance of
Halifax judge slams police for using Taser on teen girl
Last Updated: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 | 10:01 AM AT
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"A Halifax Youth Court judge criticized three police officers Tuesday for their arrest of a teenage girl, who was tackled in her own bed and shocked twice with a stun gun last February.
"The spectacle of a 17-year-old girl being Tasered in her bedroom is a very disturbing and disconcerting one," Halifax Youth Court Judge Anne Derrick said in her ruling on the charges of resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer.
"I find the police acted outside the scope of their authority in arresting [the girl] and that she was entitled to resist and committed no offence in doing so, and I acquit her of the charges before the court."
Derrick also found that the police escalated the situation leading to the arrest.
The teenager, whose identity is protected by the Youth Criminal Justice Act, testified at trial that being struck by the jolt from the Taser felt like having a "burning, open cut."
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Halifax teen girl’s tasering was "by the book," police insist
February 1, 2008
DAVENE JEFFREY, Halifax Chronicle Herald
"...Constables Philip MacKenzie, Tara Doiron and Brendan Harvey answered a call from a woman who wanted her angry teenage daughter out of the house before she caused damage. The 17-year-old had been arguing on the telephone with a younger sister, who had taken her purse. The officers testified that they had been told the older girl wanted to get even. When the 17-year-old refused to come downstairs, the officers went upstairs to her room. The girl was standing quietly by a window, and nothing had been damaged.
Const. MacKenzie tried to convince the girl to leave the home, but she refused and became angry. The officers admitted that they had no authority to arrest the girl at that point. Judge Derrick said that the officers should have backed off and spoken further to the girl’s mother. "By not leaving the bedroom that evening, the police set up the circumstances for an intense confrontation," she said.
According to the officers’ evidence, an intense confrontation is what they got. Const. MacKenzie testified that when he reached for the girl’s arm, she swung at him. He said he then pushed her onto the bed. The girl said she snatched her arm away and was pushed to the bed. All agree that the girl began fighting, trying to get two officers off of her. They got a cuff on one of her hands but couldn’t get hold of the other hand.
The girl, who was described as average-size, was yelling, swearing, spitting and growling, the officers testified. That’s when Const. MacKenzie told Const. Harvey to use his stun gun.
"I took off the cartridge and dry-Tasered or touch-Tased her in the lower back," Const. Harvey said. "The idea is just pain compliance to gain compliance for the arrest."
perspective, people.
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Posted by: common intelligence on Apr 2, 2009 5:24 PM
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Wild life can be captured and brought back alive with no problem.
• Why are the same methods not deployed by Law enforcement?
• Why does no one make a class action effort and make the "Attorney's General" from all states address this.
2. It's like the Mt. Lions spotted in urban sprawl,
The "police" of all "officials show up and have only one method with anything ..KILL IT.
What is wrong with simply trapping them , Or people for that matter?
3. Now how come people, that's you and others so concerned about Tasers, making an selling Taser shields to go into police invaded areas?
Is it against the law to guard yourself from lethal weapons?
4.Actually, Bullets can be "not lethal" if the bastards shooting could aim for non vital parts.
But Tasers are non discriminating in where their energy transmits.
Is it against the law to own bullet proof vests?
Really. Going into a potentially dangerous situation unprepared is simply stupid. That includes any gathering of masses including baseball games. Shit happens!
Remember that bloke that was questioning Senator Kerry?
"Don't Taze me Bro-" ZAP your down sucka! Totally unnecessary.
Oh, an Kerry didn't make one afforded concern for the guys well being.
Man, I don't trust one f*ck politician to give a rats ass for the wealfare of the people.
I for one have actually created my own Taser proof body armor.
Well, I have to go back to work and put my suit on now. And I now always wear my Armor!
You people have to start being warriors and stop being stupid. The war has been on for awhile. You just are as much in denial as the rest of the sheeple. Darwins Law still applies to idiots that throw themselves in harms way.
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Listen I don't hate the police, but there is this siege mentality among police officers that is disturbing, alot of cops were the kids that were bullies in high school or sadist that like abusing people. We need to teach respect and decency and screen out those highly dysfunctional people in the police force.
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Two, I would regard anybody attempting to taser me in the same light as I would somebody attempting to shoot me — that means that I shoot back.
The ‘torture’ idea appears to have some merit, perhaps some of the civil rights outfits who have legal expertise on tap might look into this aspect.
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Taser Away...
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» the civil liberties argument is perhaps the most important--the prevention of peaceful protest
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» Unfortunately, the "right" define civil liberties only in terms of gun rights.
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» What are you talking about??? They killed over 450 people in the US already last year alone!
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» Here is a sample of what I am talking about... If you can watch this...
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» I'll watch it tonight when I get back home and reevaluate. Thanks.
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» Ok, I got to see it. My apologies for the confusion.
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» you'll notice something...
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» I had to confirm that this really was so. Did get some links from the thread to look up and googled.
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Torture is Defined as any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a male or female person for such purposes as obtaining from him, or a third person, information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity.
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» 100% correct sir. Guns or tasers, it makes no difference. Well, tasers are actually worse. Here's wh
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» Disagree - Obama won't take on US police
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As for crowd control; the old rubber bullets are widely used.
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» RE: So let's correct the manufacturing and make them non-lethal once again.
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» ...was tasered 4 times and died.
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What sensible doctors recommend for chronic use is low dose drugs. Why not ramp down taser levels and save more lives. With tasers - like drugs - less is better. The question is: can police forgo a "quick fix" mentality for public safety? This questions presumes that police actually care about public safety. My bet is that weaker tasers are "not open for discussion" with law enforcement. Any takers?
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Posted by: billwald on Apr 2, 2009 9:43 AM
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No one is intimidated and feather weight officers are afraid for their safety thus any suspect who even looks cross eyed at an officer gets zapped.
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» That's a bit too sexist here.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Apr 2, 2009 2:38 PM
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& apparently don't have the social or non-violent conflict resolution skills to handle a problem without putting the pain...
Stunning 82-year-old hospital patient with Taser was justified: report
The problem is that our culture tells us to treat other people disrespectfully & to ENFORCE our Will on others, no matter what.
There are plenty of things one can do to subdue an aggressive geriatric... & simply tasing him...isn't the answer.
why don't they have other tools & skills: is because we DON'T DEMAND THEY ACQUIRE THEM...
we let them tell us they're the 'experts' on how to manage our societies...
um, they're experts on being suspicious, presuming guilt, collecting information & administering pain until we do as we're told.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Apr 2, 2009 5:09 PM
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Like they couldn't have just covered the exits & had someone simply walk in? In the most extreme conditions, Judges don't rule something is without provocation... if there is a chance of
Halifax judge slams police for using Taser on teen girl
Last Updated: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 | 10:01 AM AT
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"A Halifax Youth Court judge criticized three police officers Tuesday for their arrest of a teenage girl, who was tackled in her own bed and shocked twice with a stun gun last February.
"The spectacle of a 17-year-old girl being Tasered in her bedroom is a very disturbing and disconcerting one," Halifax Youth Court Judge Anne Derrick said in her ruling on the charges of resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer.
"I find the police acted outside the scope of their authority in arresting [the girl] and that she was entitled to resist and committed no offence in doing so, and I acquit her of the charges before the court."
Derrick also found that the police escalated the situation leading to the arrest.
The teenager, whose identity is protected by the Youth Criminal Justice Act, testified at trial that being struck by the jolt from the Taser felt like having a "burning, open cut."
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Halifax teen girl’s tasering was "by the book," police insist
February 1, 2008
DAVENE JEFFREY, Halifax Chronicle Herald
"...Constables Philip MacKenzie, Tara Doiron and Brendan Harvey answered a call from a woman who wanted her angry teenage daughter out of the house before she caused damage. The 17-year-old had been arguing on the telephone with a younger sister, who had taken her purse. The officers testified that they had been told the older girl wanted to get even. When the 17-year-old refused to come downstairs, the officers went upstairs to her room. The girl was standing quietly by a window, and nothing had been damaged.
Const. MacKenzie tried to convince the girl to leave the home, but she refused and became angry. The officers admitted that they had no authority to arrest the girl at that point. Judge Derrick said that the officers should have backed off and spoken further to the girl’s mother. "By not leaving the bedroom that evening, the police set up the circumstances for an intense confrontation," she said.
According to the officers’ evidence, an intense confrontation is what they got. Const. MacKenzie testified that when he reached for the girl’s arm, she swung at him. He said he then pushed her onto the bed. The girl said she snatched her arm away and was pushed to the bed. All agree that the girl began fighting, trying to get two officers off of her. They got a cuff on one of her hands but couldn’t get hold of the other hand.
The girl, who was described as average-size, was yelling, swearing, spitting and growling, the officers testified. That’s when Const. MacKenzie told Const. Harvey to use his stun gun.
"I took off the cartridge and dry-Tasered or touch-Tased her in the lower back," Const. Harvey said. "The idea is just pain compliance to gain compliance for the arrest."
perspective, people.
Perspective.
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Posted by: common intelligence on Apr 2, 2009 5:24 PM
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Wild life can be captured and brought back alive with no problem.
• Why are the same methods not deployed by Law enforcement?
• Why does no one make a class action effort and make the "Attorney's General" from all states address this.
2. It's like the Mt. Lions spotted in urban sprawl,
The "police" of all "officials show up and have only one method with anything ..KILL IT.
What is wrong with simply trapping them , Or people for that matter?
3. Now how come people, that's you and others so concerned about Tasers, making an selling Taser shields to go into police invaded areas?
Is it against the law to guard yourself from lethal weapons?
4.Actually, Bullets can be "not lethal" if the bastards shooting could aim for non vital parts.
But Tasers are non discriminating in where their energy transmits.
Is it against the law to own bullet proof vests?
Really. Going into a potentially dangerous situation unprepared is simply stupid. That includes any gathering of masses including baseball games. Shit happens!
Remember that bloke that was questioning Senator Kerry?
"Don't Taze me Bro-" ZAP your down sucka! Totally unnecessary.
Oh, an Kerry didn't make one afforded concern for the guys well being.
Man, I don't trust one f*ck politician to give a rats ass for the wealfare of the people.
I for one have actually created my own Taser proof body armor.
Well, I have to go back to work and put my suit on now. And I now always wear my Armor!
You people have to start being warriors and stop being stupid. The war has been on for awhile. You just are as much in denial as the rest of the sheeple. Darwins Law still applies to idiots that throw themselves in harms way.
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Posted by: theblackgeorgecarlin on Apr 2, 2009 7:42 PM
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Listen I don't hate the police, but there is this siege mentality among police officers that is disturbing, alot of cops were the kids that were bullies in high school or sadist that like abusing people. We need to teach respect and decency and screen out those highly dysfunctional people in the police force.
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Posted by: phindrup on Apr 2, 2009 7:49 PM
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Two, I would regard anybody attempting to taser me in the same light as I would somebody attempting to shoot me — that means that I shoot back.
The ‘torture’ idea appears to have some merit, perhaps some of the civil rights outfits who have legal expertise on tap might look into this aspect.
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Apr 2, 2009 8:23 PM
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#@!
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Posted by: HoboHomo on Apr 3, 2009 2:21 AM
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» RE: abbit - So WHAT
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Posted by: abdo46 on Apr 5, 2009 9:01 AM
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Posted by: ds1st on Apr 15, 2009 5:53 PM
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Taser Away...
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