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Marijuana Milestone: No More Raids on Pot Dispensaries, Says Attorney General

By Phillip S. Smith, Drug War Chronicle. Posted February 28, 2009.


Obama fulfills a campaign promise, marking the end of an era of federal resistance to state medical marijuana programs.
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In response to a question at a Wednesday news conference, US Attorney General Eric Holder said the Justice Department will no longer raid medical marijuana dispensaries in states where they are legal under state law. The announcement marks the fulfillment of a President Obama campaign promise, and it marks the end of 13 years of stubborn federal resistance to state medical marijuana programs.

DEA raids of medical marijuana facilities in California continued after Obama's election in November and even after his inauguration last month. Holder was asked if those raids represented Justice Department policy under the new administration.

"Shortly after the inauguration there were raids on California medical marijuana dispensaries. Do you expect these to continue?" the reporter asked, noting that the president had promised to end the raids in the campaign.

"No," Holder responded. "What the president said during the campaign, you'll be surprised to know, will be consistent with what we'll be doing in law enforcement. He was my boss during the campaign. He is formally and technically and by law my boss now. What he said during the campaign is now American policy." (Watch the video here.)

Nearly 75 million Americans live in the 13 states where medical marijuana is legal. But because of the federal government's refusal to recognize state medical marijuana laws, dozens of dispensaries in California have been raided by the DEA, typically in over-the-top paramilitary-style operations. More than a hundred people are facing prosecution, sentencing, or are already imprisoned under draconian federal marijuana laws because of their roles in operating dispensaries.

"There has been a lot of collateral damage in the federal campaign against medical marijuana patients," said Steph Sherer, medical marijuana patient and executive director of Americans for Safe Access (ASA), the nation's largest medical cannabis advocacy organization. "We need to stop the prosecutions, bring the prisoners home, and begin working to eliminate the conflict between state and federal medical marijuana laws."

At an ASA press conference hastily called for Thursday afternoon, Sherer elaborated. "I'm overjoyed to finally hold a press conference with some great news," she said. "Today is a victory and a huge step forward in what has been at times a cruel and tragic period. My outrage over the raids was shared by millions of Americans, and now our collective voice has been heard in Washington. We look forward to working with the Obama administration to harmonize the conflicts with state laws once and for all."

But for some patients and dispensary operators, the damage has already been done. Larry Epstein operates a legal medical cannabis dispensing collective in Marina Del Rey, California, that was raided by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) on February 4, despite President Obama's statements on the campaign trail indicating a change in federal policy.

"We had been operating as a legitimate cooperative dispensary per California law for a number of years," said Epstein. "But the DEA came in here as if we were operating an illegal drug cartel. They stole all our property, all our product, and froze our bank accounts. Now, we can't pay our taxes; that's part of what they stole. It's devastating when they do those types of actions, never mind the hundreds of patients who rely on our facility to get their medicine."

Heather Poet operates a medical cannabis dispensing collective in Santa Barbara, California. The Justice Department has pressured her landlord to evict the collective using threats of prosecution and civil asset forfeiture. Her case prompted US Representative Lois Capps (D-CA) to ask Attorney General Holder to stop any and all prosecutions of property owners in a February 16 letter.


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Glenn Beck and Rob Kampia
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Feb 28, 2009 12:48 AM   
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The Shameful Way of the DEA
Posted by: bryangalt on Feb 28, 2009 2:18 AM   
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It has been shameful behavior from the federal agencies that have been arresting the distribution center owners and they have disgraced themselves and their offices as a result.

In another case that isn't mentioned in this article, Luke Scarmazzo and Ricardo Montes were sentenced to 21 and 20 years for their dispensary in Modesto.

This excerpt is from their MySpace page: "ON MAY 15TH, 2008 MY HUSBAND LUKE SCARMAZZO AND OUR DEAR FRIEND RICARDO MONTES WERE FOUND GUILTY FOR OPERATING A MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY HERE IN MODESTO CALIFORNIA. THEY WERE BOTH CHARGED WITH RUNNING A CONTINUAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE, WHICH HOLD A MANDATORY MINIUM OF 20 YEARS TO LIFE, DISTRUBUTION, CULTIVATION, AND MANUFACTURING OF MARIJUANA, WHICH HOLDS A MANDATORY MINIMUM OF 5-10 YEARS. THE DISPENSARY WAS CALLED CALIFORNIA HEALTHCARE COLLECTIVE. THEY OPERATED FOR ALMOST YEARS. THE COLLECTIVE WAS LEGAL UNDER CALIFORNIA STATE LAWS, AND HAD A BUSINESS LICENSE THROUGH THE CITY OF MODESTO. THE COLLECTIVE WAS ESTABLSHED THROUGH CORPORATE ATTORNEYS, PAID ALL CITY, STATE, AND FEDERAL TAXES. THE COLLECTIVE HAD RECEIPTS FOR EVERY PURCHASE, MADE DAILY BANK DEPOSITS INTO BANK ACCOUNTS, HAD ACCOUNTANTS, AS WELL AS PAYROLL FOR THEIR EMPLOYEE'S. THIS WAS A VERY ABOVE THE BOARD BUSINESS. NO ONE WAS ABLE TO ENTER THE DISPENSARY WITHOUT THE PROPER IDENTIFICATION, AND DOCTOR RECOMENDATIONS."

Read the rest on MySpace

That sentence is the type of time you might expect for a murderer or rapist, not a couple of businessmen operating within the laws of the state.

To make that point, this week three former Atlanta Narco officers were given sentences of 3-10 years for gunning down a 90 year old woman (they shot her 40 times) in a botched drug raid. These cops planted evidence in the woman's house in an attempt to cover up their stupidity. They came to her house after planting evidence on another person to make him snitch on others!

And they are considered to be less dangerous than two pot sellers! What the hell is wrong with this country.

Obama needs to issue immediate pardons to those persons who have been jailed because of the ridiculous imbalance in the federal and state laws, period.

Bryan Galt's Blog

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» RE: The Shameful Way of the DEA Posted by: grammasanity
Fifty dollar an ounce 'fee' is excessive, the regular sales tax will do
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Feb 28, 2009 3:27 AM   
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I am outraged by this, it sounds like a new effort to police state 'regulate' us, basically, seriously rip us off.

Fun With California’s Marijuana Laws

They can collect sales tax on it just like everything else. This excessive 'sin' tax is just plain wrong. Stay out of my yard, I will grow what I like.

OK, here is a second take,

Legalize marijuana? Ammiano might be on to something

An analysis predicts a $50 an ounce tax would generate $1.3 billion year in new state taxes, drop its street value by 50 percent and increase consumption by 40 percent. There are some people, though, who argue Ammiano is all wet about the 40 percent jump in consumption since pot is so readily available right now that they don’t expect much of a jump.

-skip-

Ammiano is proposing that those over 21 years of age be allowed to grow, buy, sell, and possess marijuana.

Such a move should be matched by a requirement that anyone who grows marijuana for sale must have a special state resale license. It should also be treated like cigarettes and alcohol with even stiffer consequences. The police should have the power to question anyone who is selling marijuana and demand a copy of their license to do so. If they don’t have one, it should be mandatory on the first offense that the state seizes all assets being used in the sale and transportation of pot that is owned by the offender. That way compliance to the licensing requirement should be a minimal problem. The license also should be a nice healthy price tag like $1,000 a year.

Anyone caught supplying anyone under the age of 21 with pot – whether they sell it or give it to them –should face a mandatory $1,000 fine on their first conviction or asset seizure of equal value. The second offense could be $10,000 with each offense there after $25,000.


See? What did I tell ya? They want to find a new way to rip us off.

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» Tax herbs? Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Tax everything? Posted by: kettleblack
» RE: Tax everything? Posted by: bornxeyed
Marijuana Legalization discourse officially goes Mainstream
Posted by: xxdr_zombiexx on Feb 28, 2009 3:36 AM   
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Marijuana Legalization discourse officially goes Mainstream

So it has officially begun. We have needed to have this discussion since the late 1960's, at the very least.

YOU, dear reader, are now OFFICIALLY empowered to discuss this important issue more freely.

1 suggestion: don't be apologetic or waste time in caveats like Cohen did. He wasted nearly a paragraph of prime media space sucking up to the stupidity of marijuana propaganda.

We don't have to do that any more. Say what you want to say and don't apologize.

We're mainstream now.

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Against drugs
Posted by: shiftjammer on Feb 28, 2009 4:08 AM   
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I have never used anything but prescription drugs my whole life. I grew up with friends who smoked marijuana. But it never interested me. And I am totaly against the harder narcotics.

But I never understood the problem with people smoking pot, if it can help medically. If it helps someone. Who cares if its a bag of baby shit there smoking. As long as it helps. The only thing I can think of is. The Big Drug makers. Do not want pot legalized. Since it would probably take millions or even billions. Away from their industry.

Of course the Neo-Cons will scream we are corrupting our kids. And that the kids should be at church. Where they can get raped by priests. Sad sad days.

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» RE: Against drugs Posted by: Lilykins
WE HAVE A PRESIDENT FOR THE 1ST TIME IN 8 LONG YEARS!!
Posted by: xvictor on Feb 28, 2009 4:33 AM   
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And a progressive president at that!!!!

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Marijuana debate flames on to national level
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Feb 28, 2009 4:38 AM   
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Here is the Examiner story, Marijuana debate flames on to national level

Free Charles Lynch! Restore his good name!

The paper is a freebie and their competitor the Chronicle is going under. What does that mean for news coverage? I guess we will find out.

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Am I dreaming or just stoned?
Posted by: kittybud420 on Feb 28, 2009 5:13 AM   
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I never thought I'd see the day but it seems we're finally making significant progress with the marijuana issue.

There are several aspects that need to be considered though. The growers and breeders that have developed the "super strains" like are seen at the Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam should be allowed to continue. If the market continues to bear up price wise, more power to them. That's a tremendous amount of work and expense to produce top shelf product. Individuals who wish to grow their own should be allowed to grow X amt for personal, and X amount to give away to friends and acquaintances. Just as adults are allowed to brew their own alcohol, cannabis should be the same. Commercial companies (snicker... can't wait to see where the money comes from to finance those) should compete in a free and open market against smaller grow houses and indie outfits.

Now of course I advocate legalization for medical use and recreational as well. Alcohol kills and cannabis chills- and there's millions of responsible adults worldwide who forgo the use of alcohol for cannabis.

At the end of the day, it's always about money and power. Marijuana is a plant put here by the One Who Made All This. It should remain as free and unencumbered as possible. The consumer will set the value of this commodity, and the simplest of tax ideas should be explored. I'd rather see commercial hemp to be the cash cow fpr taxation rather than cannabis.

It'll all come out in the wash tho- just glad to see somebody has finally turned the washer on!

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Educate yourself...
Posted by: C the B on Feb 28, 2009 6:04 AM   
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Start reading.
"The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Jack Herrer is a great place to start.
Tell your friends...

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Prescription drugs
Posted by: xxdr_zombiexx on Feb 28, 2009 6:52 AM   
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kill more Americans than all illicit drugs combined.

Plain.

Simple.

End of discussion.

And once cannabis is regulated, medical users won't have to go through all this bullshit.

And I can smoke pot at home without fear of losing my home or being hot to death by "public servants".

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FINALLY!
Posted by: pj1fwb on Feb 28, 2009 7:35 AM   
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I am 56, and I have been waiting for 34 years for some kind of new rules about pot to kick in! It is nice to know that this is just a start! I can imagine being able to grow a little just for me! Can't in Florida yet,but there is hope! Let's put the American Farmer back to work, instead of paying him NOT to plant!!Too many peoples lifes have been ruined by these conservatives, so I say Thanks, it's a start!!

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Re-Legalize Merijuana in 2009
Posted by: bcainw on Feb 28, 2009 7:39 AM   
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Obama said he won't Legalize Marijuana. It is time to tell him "yes we can and yes we demand it by the end of 2009." The key to such a move involves taking Marijuana off the Controlled Substances Act and allowing untaxed, unregulated personal cultivation. This will destroy the gangs, the cartels and bring some counterbalance to the liberties lost during the Bush administration through the Patriot Act. The MERP Model is the answer to that problem and the recent California proposal does meet "some" of the guidelines of MERP.

Please send this link as far and wide as humanly possible:

Re-Legalize Marijuana Now, Obama (1)
http://www.newagecitizen.com/MERP/RelegalizeNowObama01.htm

Also worth watching:

Marijuana: Past, Present and Future from Bruce Cain on Vimeo.
http://www.vimeo.com/2056650

Why Lou Dobbs Should Support Marijuana Legalization
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VKf5YfQb7s&

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Drug Czar...John P Walters..Bush's Man & the ONDCP
Posted by: picket on Feb 28, 2009 11:09 AM   
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got a bad report from a Senate commissioned report released on 2/26/09 [Nat Academy of Public Adv] only three items from the report:

Drug Czar was obsessed with youth MJ use which hindered the ONDCP's ability to construct a more coherent overall strategy for drug policy.

Drug Czar's office manipulated and in some cases fabricated data.


Drug Czar refused to make himself accountable to Congress.

Walters will now get lucrative new employment and the damage he has done to millions of good Americans will go unpunished.



An American is arrested for violating Cannabis laws every 38 seconds.
Drug War Clock
http://www.drugsense.org/wodclock.htm

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A Good First Step But...
Posted by: dragonlady620 on Feb 28, 2009 11:11 AM   
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.. Holder needs to go farther and rein in the DEA, which has operated virtually without any restraint since its inception.Unbeknownst to most people they are not bound by due process of law as other law enforcement agencies are (although this has been eroded by the so-called Patriot Act). They can and do go after people on the flimsiest of evidence, including an undocumented suspicion, and seize everything the suspect owns, and usually these assets are not returned when the suspect(victim)is found to be innocent. About twenty years ago a news story profiled a middle-aged man who ran a small commercial airline(four small planes for transport, commuter flights, etc.) that saw the DEA swoop in and take everything he owned. When he asked what it was all about he was told "suspected drug trafficking" and they didn't have to tell him the details. He was NOT involved in the drug trade, but eventually was told that a suspected drug dealer and talked to him about his service-and this was considered sufficient to seize everything he owned. AND years after he was found to be completely innocent(the suspected dealer had never used his service and the victim knew nothing about him until after his arrest),the DEA had STILL not released his property, and by then his business and his life were ruined anyway. This story is typical.The DEA argues that the nature of their work needs broad discretionary powers but there is no excuse for going after anyone who has not been proved to be guilty of anything-and no excuse for having no accountability for any wrong decisions. You can certainly see the potential for abuse.
Obama has been criticized by not going far enough to legalize marijuana, even though it has been established that it would be far less costly than the current status, but it is the LEGAL community which puts up most of the objections since defending drug dealers, especially possession cases, represent a huge part of their income(and I won't even go into the profit it generates for related services, such as prisons, etc.). In another post I related something I had seen in my own hometown: A newly elected DA announced that he was not going to try possession cases-he saw no reason to clog the courts and waste taxpayers' money this way. He was forced to abandon this by the local LAWYERS who made a lot of money defending possession cases and resented this incursion into their income-my point being that is that those who profit from the illegal status of pot are not going to give up those profits without a fight, and they know all about how to play on peoples' fears. Any change in the laws will have to be gradual, and this move is a good start.

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» RE: A Good First Step But... Posted by: grammasanity
RE: Marijuana smoke stinks.
Posted by: Groovy Vegan on Mar 1, 2009 9:30 AM   
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I would like marijuana decriminalized as well. It would free up a lot of jail cells and police time.

HOWEVER, I do not want to be breathing second-hand marijuana smoke any more than I want to be breathing second-hand tobacco smoke. So should your maryjanes be legalized, please keep out of restaurants, public places, and doorways while smoking.

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» RE: Marijuana smoke stinks. Posted by: aonghus36
here's an idea for the polititians... defund prohibition...
Posted by: Bearzerker on Feb 28, 2009 11:37 AM   
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... end this stupid war by taking away all public monies for policing, enforcing and incarcerating non-viloent drug users!

and then release and pardon all incarcerated non-violent drug offenders... and then apologize for infringing on there constitutional rights.

Drug policy can and should be dealt with by local and state laws...
Harm reduction strategies do work, but with the current amount of money being pumped into this prohibitionist disaster, it will only make things worse not better...

take all the federal funding from the DEA, CIA, ATF, the courts and all the other multiple organizations that feed off this republican boondoggle, and give it to a social health care initiative...

at least thats a better boondoggle then the "fear and loathing on DC's war on drugs" the rethugnican pundits and there lobbiest friends want you to believe!

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GOODBYE and GOOD RIDANCE! The BUMS Rush is too good for BUSH&Co!
Posted by: Ottomatic on Feb 28, 2009 2:06 PM   
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Obama has done more good in 5 weeks that
Bush did in his entire LIFE.
GO OBAMA!
STOP PROHIBITION!

Go Local!
Go GREEN!
Go ORGANIC!

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John Lovell
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Feb 28, 2009 2:08 PM   
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I found some very compelling evidence in the New York Times that John Lovell is conspiring to commit ethnic cleansing against us. Here it is:

Struggling States Look to Unorthodox Taxes

John Lovell, a lobbyist for several groups of California law enforcement officials, said the plan would create a large, illicit — and thus untaxed — black market, in addition to magnifying substance abuse problems. “The last thing we need is yet another legal substance that is mind-altering,” he said.

From his website, John Lovell

Welcome to the Law Offices of John Lovell. During the twenty years our firm has been in existence over 99% of the bills we have lobbied for have been signed into law in the California State Legislature.
Significantly, NO BILLS we have opposed have ever been enacted.

If you are serious about getting things done in the California Legislature you need John Lovell on your side.


I find that terrifying. He needs to hear from the THC Ministry! But I am AFRAID of him.

That kind of track record means if you go against him, you will be destroyed. One way or another. My life has been threatened lots of times. I am NOT ready for this.

Sister Lauren
THC Ministry

Here is his contact information.

Law Offices of John Lovell
1127 11th St Ste 523
Sacramento, CA 96814

Phone: (916) 447-3820
Fax: (916) 441-1974
Email: jlovell@johnlovell.com

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» RE: John Lovell Posted by: kettleblack
If they can 'bail out' banks with out cash..
Posted by: cyr3n on Feb 28, 2009 2:34 PM   
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..they can certainly pay these operators back for damages incurred and property stolen during these ILLEGAL raids.

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It'll take an act of GOD...
Posted by: VickyinSD on Feb 28, 2009 4:45 PM   
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to stop the insanity going on down here in good old San Diego!!!

The head DA bitch and the County Board of Supervisors are hell bent on getting Prop. 215 repealed... taking it through all the courts and now headed to the US Supreme Court!

They've closed down all the dispensaries, closed the head shops and seized all their paraphernalia... they are relentless in their pursuit, and I doubt it's going to change anytime soon, no matter who's in charge.

I'd LOVE to see the whole bunch of them arrested or impeached for violating a right that was voted in over 10 yrs. ago... it would serve them ALL right!

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» GODDESS ne ZERO POINT Posted by: caru
» RE: It'll take an act of GOD... Posted by: Sister_Lauren
How to end drug war
Posted by: phist on Mar 1, 2009 2:05 AM   
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While all this is good news, it is temporary. Even if Obama can get federal law enforcers to ignore the law, who is to say that the next president will do the same? Either the controlled substance act of 1970 needs to be killed or it needs to be modified by removing marijuana (or cannabis) off the list.

I don't particularly like involving doctors and third party marijuana providers into my personal business unless I think it's a good idea and since I can grow and consume marijuana all by myself without any "help" I don't see why I should play along. Just eliminate Marijuana from the list of controlled substances and permit hemp production. The economy needs it and DuPont can go f*ck themselves.

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Pot is good
Posted by: mikacct on Mar 1, 2009 8:59 AM   
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Marijuana could save the economy and more importantly the environment. www.nsyfforu.com

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» RE: Pot is good Posted by: richholland
The whole raid thing was bogus from the very outset.
Posted by: Longdream on Mar 1, 2009 3:09 PM   
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If instead of only preying on people exercising their right to fill their legally obtained prescriptions and the open, public, legal facilities that serve them, the feds included the physicians who wrote the prescriptions in the raids, none of this would have begun, let alone gone on for years.

Because if they had messed with the physicians, they would have annoyed the AMA. Nobody in an elective position, nor anyone dependent on anyone in said elective position, wants to annoy the AMA.

Double standard? Doesn't take a genius to see it.

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the police need to stop persecuting potheads and actually do their job
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Mar 1, 2009 3:15 PM   
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Snap, Crackle, Pot By Kathleen Parker

In our peculiar obsession to track down the Willie Nelsons, the Rush Limbaughs and now the Michael Phelpses of society -- nonviolent, victimless imbibers of drugs -- we've actually made society less safe. That's the conclusion of 10,000 cops, prosecutors, judges and others who make up the membership of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.

Howard Wooldridge, LEAP's Washington representative, is a former cop and detective who lectures civic clubs and congressional staffers on the futility of drug laws that reduce public safety by wasting time and money. He points to child pornography as just one example.

As of last April, he says, law enforcement had identified 623,000 computers containing child pornography, including downloadable video of child rape. Only a fraction of those have been pursued with search warrants, thanks to limited resources and staff shortages. What's worse, Wooldridge says, is that three times out of five a search warrant also produces a child victim on the premises.

Another example: Last year, Human Rights Watch reported that as many as 400,000 rape kits containing evidence were sitting unopened in criminal labs and storage facilities. Between the Los Angeles Police Department and the L.A. County sheriff's office, nearly 12,000 kits were unopened, according to an NPR report in December.


The police are telling us their priorities. Smoke pot, they send you to jail. Get raped, and the evidence gets ignored or covered up.

I'd like to know why the police operate with this horrible bias in favor of excusing rape and against smoking pot. It is really unfair. Does it have something to do with their religion?

I had the horror filled experience of the local police man tell me I couldn't be raped by my husband. The officer wasn't showing much of a grasp on the law there, but it is up to his desecration so I guess he was right. Or at least he thinks so, and every body else seems to back that up, they all seem to agree.

Sick. I live in a sick community.

I live where the police practice a religion where rape is the proper punishment for both uppity women and smoking pot. Very strange. I thought California was better than that.

Sister Lauren
THC Ministry

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Legalize marijuana now, President Obama, before someone else dies!
Posted by: bornxeyed on Mar 1, 2009 11:55 PM   
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Medical Marijuana Patient dies after being denied liver transplant

May 5,2008

A medical-marijuana user who was denied a liver transplant because of his use of the drug has died, the Associated Press reported May 2.

The University of Washington Medical Center recently told Timothy Garon, 56, that he would not be placed on its liver-transplant list because of his marijuana use; hospital officials said they would reconsider if Garon completed a 60-day addiction-treatment class. Garon, whose liver had been damaged by Hepatitis C -- a byproduct of injection-drug use in his youth -- died last Thursday.

Garon had received permission from a physician to use medical marijuana to stimulate his appetite and relieve nausea and pain. His doctor, Brad Roter, said he didn't realize that authorizing Garon to use the drug would prevent him from getting a transplant.

Some hospitals bar all users of illicit drugs from their transplant lists, while others allow those who are in sustained recovery to get on the list for a new organ.



Now they can says someone died from using marijuana.

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non smoker
Posted by: zgregz on Mar 2, 2009 12:04 AM   
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well it's about friggin time, I would hope that this will finally give a push to the idiots who could never imagine THEY might need to use. I would really like to see a little bit of justice though, how about a law making it a felony for any person to use marijuana --- who spent the last 20 years making sure no one else could? Seems to me it would be a real rush to compile the list, and it would be great fun in the coming years to listen to news reports about the latest law and order wingnut begging for compassionate use. Payback would be so ... fair.

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First step
Posted by: LeeAnnG on Mar 2, 2009 9:00 AM   
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The prohibitionists claim that medical marijuana is a first step toward legalizing it completely, and that's one reason they have been so adamant about raiding the legal distribution centers. In this one instance, they are probably right (and I fervently hope so!)

It's an easy transition to go from marijuana prescriptions for extreme pain from cancer to those for a condition like glaucoma. I have glaucoma, but my eye drops mostly keep it from bothering me. There are times when there's a slight discomfort, and pot could alleviate it, but it's hard to draw the line between needing it and wanting it. It's like aspirin or ibufrophen - there are times when I can't sleep or I have minor aches, so I take an ibuprophen, which helps, but I can't say I NEED it. I know some people who can't sleep without smoking a bowl. Perhaps they need a prescription for pot as a sleep aid. From there, it's just another small step to "needing" it to overcome anxiety. One baby step at a time - which is, to me, a very very good thing.

If pot became legal in all states for medical use, people would begin to realize that it's not the menace being promoted in the media. It would become obvious that there are as many people who used pot and function as contributing members of society as there are OTC painkiller users. Once pot loses its stigma among the last vestiges of the True Believers in Pot as Satan's Temptation, the final step is to legalize it for personal use - like alcohol.

Funny, isn't it, that some of the most ardent opponents of pot are often tobacco's biggest defenders (Jesse Helms comes to mind). Same thing for alcohol.

So, for once, I hope the rightwingers and government naysayers and other prohibitionists are absolutely right. Legalization just might be coming, one step at a time, starting with legal medical marijuana in 13 states and, with just a little luck, more to come.

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Mega-billion dollar industries will lose their cash cow
Posted by: socrates2 on Mar 6, 2009 6:16 PM   
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Too many special interests for the past decades have opposed this herb and profitted handsomely from Pot Prohibition:
The multi-billion dollar liquor industry.
The multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry.
The multi-billion dollar prison construction industry.
The multi-billion dollar law enforcement industry.
I won't mention the cottage industries that _sell_ "fear of crime" such as the Insurance industry and the security/alarm industries.
My daddy used to say, "follow the money." Personal experience has yet to prove his wisdom wrong...
The real harm is to personal and corporate profits. The rest is social mythology. The secret of the above Corporations and industries that fund Senatorial and Congressional campaigns is to solely fund those idiots who are either blissfully ignorant or intellectually dishonest and are all too willing to perpetuate Prohibition.
The real hope for President Obama is that he brings a refreshing intellectual honesty to national political discourse.
Only intellectual rigor and honesty will end this national superstition and farce.

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