Let's be Honest those who still cling to the Repug party are Twisted Lunatics.
Lest we forget the Olympic Pipe bombs, the MD assassinations...How about the recent nutcase who opened fire in a church!?!
Oh Us liberals like to sound crazy, but we do try to curb our outrage to within legal perimeters. would I love to have cheney's head on a recyclece paper plate- yes, but only after we parade in infront of a court for the World to see.Watch him Sweat during months of testimony about ALL his high crimes over the last 4 decades. A sniper would negate that pleasure, I'd be pissed!
What seems to be missed here is that once again the Right wingers have failed to mention who is responsible. It's not the Chimps fault it got our and attacked a woman, requiring the cops to take extraoridinary measures to assure public safety, It was the fault of it's handler. Much like it is not the Fault of Pres Obama or Speaker Pelosi that a 800 billion stim had to be put together- it's the Fault of the Repugs who took the leash off WallStreet, with Gramms "Modernization Act" and numerous other deregulations- They granted Liberties to Wall Street which it could not control it self with.
A far more poignant analogy would have had the cops as Obama & Pelosi and the Chimp as Wall Steet, with the Repugs standing with the unhinged leash. But even then so many are ready to string up the Wall Streeters, the humor would not be worth the risk.
Murdock and his dumb ass editors should be facing charges, esp if one of their lunatic fringe takes this as a message from God to act. Co conpirators in an assassination attempt...Funny Now Murdock?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

I think the only one associating this cartoon with Obama is the left and THAT is racist.

Pelosi wrote the plan so based on how it was done it sure could have been written BETTER by an ape.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

of Obama that it depicts, which seems like a subtle encouragement to the radical Right.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

This is a stretch at best. How do you know the cartoon's not referring to Congress, which is predominantly white but includes members of different races? The stimulus package was initiated before Obama took office, and has been weakened by Washington's traditional partisan politics and misguided ideologies. Why is Obama now the lone individual associated with it?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

This is like yelling "fire" in a crowded theater! This is unconscionable in the least, but what more should we expect from the same man that owns FOX News! Both the "artist and the editor" should be tarred and feathered! This is not a play on recent events!

I think everyone should boycott not just The Post, but FOX News - and the advertisers that promote on these media! I can not see why these people don't see why others are outraged! I for one will never buy another NY Post, will you join me!!!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

I mean, come on! Real shit is happening in the world. The economy has gone to hell, the US is in two major wars (and many smaller ones), and there are more genocides happening than one can count, and THIS is what the left is wasting its time ranting about? Boo-fucking-hoo, people. Get over it. This is why blue collar people don't all rally behind the Democrats, because every time they're suffering they look to you and see a bunch of whiny little bitches. Grow up and learn to fight!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

He must have noticed that it implies him, as an ape, lying dead in a pool of his own blood.

I wonder what his reaction will be. He has to realize now how dangerous his enemies are. He should use the anti-terror apparatus left over from the Bush administration to crush them.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

The Loony Left and Al Sharpton in particular are experts at race baiting and divisive politics. They are experts at placing people into boxes on their sexual preference, skin color, religion or world views. They are unable to see us as one people in one nation, instead there are only victims. The moment we see ourselves as one nation, people their game is over and their voting block is gone.

If you disagree with them and have another point of view on the politics of division they automatically call you a racist. They are everyday looking to find something that offends them. They thrive on offense, not only that they have the Orwellian approach. For it to be an offense it is the offended that has the right to make the call on what is offensive. SIC!

The article is written by one of the Loony Left racial baiters. Al Sharpton, on my top 10 most despicable list, found as did the professor the NY Post cartoon lampooning that crazy killer monkey from Stamford, Conn. The cartoon clearly compared the act of creating an totally out of control stimulus package by a bunch of crazed politicians too busy playing with their poo to read the bill, to that of an escaped chimp terrorizing the citizens of its community and biting the hands that fed it.

Al Sharpton called the cartoon “troubling at best given the historic racist attacks of African-Americans as being synonymous with monkeys.”

It is very strange but I do not know what you see. When I see people who happen to be black, I don’t see what Al Sharpton sees. I usually see just another guy walking past me or seated in the car next to me. But then again, I’m not in the race baiting business like the Loony Left and Al Sharpton.

But we have now a new president that is post-racial and the Loony Left and Al Sharpton’s of the wolrd is fast losing their influence. The same can be said of the Rabid Right portion of the Republican Party, they were soundly trashed in the last election.

So wake up guys the Cultural War is over, Go home!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Intellectualzng and explaining deeper meaning won't make it funny. I've run the humor course from early Mad Mag, Nation Lampoon, SNL, Carlin, Stewart, Colbert to name a few. I don't believe that Obama will dignify it with a comment. It was presented for shock value and nothing more. It certainly isn't satire. This too shall pass. ANNA

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

People who sling this sort of mud are in complete denial of their own shame and fear of their raw primate physiology.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Considering the fact that we liberals generally don't watch Fox News and read New York Post anyway, boycotting these two probably won't mean much to them. However, we CAN hit them at their pocket books by boycotting the businesses that continue to advertise with them.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

We on the left spent years calling Bush a chimp. I pointed that out on another thread and got accused of being in the Klan.

This is honestly what I do not understand about my side of the aisle. After this cartoon came out, there are protests. When Obama announces escalation of troops in Afghanistan, nothing. The cartoon is in poor taste for many reasons. But if I don't absolutely flip out about it, I must be a racist now?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Painting 'the other' as less than human, and particularly as animals like apes and chimps that have a history of cultural baggage in such associations, has always been effective. Just take a look at WWII or Cold War era propaganda posters (Japanese as rats, Americans as monkeys, enraged apes, Germans as Wolves, etc.) . These associations are rallying points to create that us vs. them Manichean mentality that allows for acceptable violence against this 'other'.
Those who complain, "Oh it's just a joke" or "Don't be so sensitive," fail to realize that such propaganda is affective (they'll probably also tell you that they "have a black friend" so they're not racist). Those of us who study such rhetoric for a living, whether in psychology, sociology, or critical theory (my field), understand this to be a base and consistent tactic for divisiveness, that allows us to harm or kill this less-than-human other. You have no choice, because, unlike humans, they lack control, rationality, intelligence, etc. (To be honest I actually conern myself with this depiction of animals as well--it's one of the reason Western states and Alaska have wolf hunts, to sate blood lust, and wildlife managers are aware of this as a factor in predicting and establishing numbers).
The point being that this cartoon is, if not racist, clearly dehumanizing and depicts two white authority figures as being left with little other choice than to kill. How is this not dangerous? Try explaining the meaning of the cartoon to a child, maybe a 3rd or 4th grader, who won't let you off the hook with their whys.
Clearly, we do need to talk about the meaning of such propaganda, to ariculate exactly what we believe the message of such a cartoon is. As I see it, the most coherent exegesis of this as a political cartoon, and perhaps the only one that makes sense, is one that does assume the chimp/black president Obama metaphor (and don't dismiss the context, including that it appeared in the New York Post). Pleading ignorant to the associations or maintaining "I didn't take the cartoon that way," and then offering some convoluted explanation of what it alternatively means, is no excuse for failing to realize how many will interpret the cartoon. Again, such propaganda works, perhaps even better than the Guess jean ads and beer commercials that imply sex. Of course, those don't work either, right? Not on me at least (yeah, that's why I still want a Big Mac despite not having one for a decade and a half).

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

But the fact is, George Bush has been called a chimp or monkey for the last 8 years.

Now that President Obama, may have been called one by a cartoon, suddenly its racist?

The only racism I can see, is when people decide it is ok to call a white person a chimp, but not a black person.

Either it is acceptable to call someone something, or it is not. If you have seperate rules for seperate races, YOU are being the racist.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

photographic evidence suggests that some whites, like GWB, have a serious resemblance to simians.

See here: http://bushisanidiot.homestead.com/files/
CuriousGeorge__2_.jpg
(paste the 2 lines together into 1 link)

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

I don't consider myself much of a "lefty" but I cannot see how anyone could see any other interpretation of this cartoon than a reference to Barack Obama. I think it definitely tries to say Obama is a "monkey" or "ape", as was once a much-used term for a black person. The whole Fox/Post outfit is worthless watching/reading, except to see exactly how much b.s. the "righties" can take without moving at least to a "centrist" position. This a purely shameful attack on the President of the United States.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

is to treat blacks and whites EXACTLY the same.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

I thought the cartoon was about the general ineptness of the stimulus plan. After all, Dubya was portrayed as a chimp for eight years... but then he looked and acted the part.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

and it's getting REALLY tiresome!

Apes/simians/primates have been linked with black people from pretty much the time we've been on these shores. That is an inescapable FACT! Calling Bush a "chimp" simply does not carry the historical weight and the pain that depicting Obama as a shot-up ape does. Black people have been depicted as being ape-like or having "animalistic" qualities--a known tactic that dehumanizes a group of people therefore making it easy to discriminate and even eliminate that group.

What really ticks me off is this insistence that the cartoon is SATIRE. You want to know what REAL satire is--the cover of the New Yorker was satire (even though a lot of my fellow black folks don't agree with me). It was satire because it was making fun of the stupid idiots who believed that Obama and his wife Michelle were closet terrorists and anti-American. It used every single knee-jerk reactionary trop espoused by the lunatic fringe from the right to make the statement of how ludicrous their beliefs were. Sadly, it was also a little too smart for its own good and way too many people missed the point.

I seriously doubt the creator of this piece of racist idiocy even knows how to SPELL much less DEFINE satire. Undercover racists like this guy fall back on the "satire" excuse because they are too spineless to admit their bigotry and their ignorance. And it IS ignorance and it is inexcusable!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

It is not surprising that many whites don't recognize the problem with this cartoon. Many of the most famous Western scholars spent an inordinate amount of their academic tenure trying to prove that Africans were ape-like, subhuman, less than every other "race" in every way, and thus, deserving of their permanent servitude in slavery.

I invite anyone interested in the long history of whites equating non-whites with apes to read the late evolutionist and Harvard professor Stephen Jay Gould's book "The Mismeasure of Man" (which includes thorough discussions on the application of IQ and a great refutation of Murray/Herstein's racist garbage "The Bell Curve"). In 2009, many people are walking around completely unaware of where many of their associations came from, where they learned them, and why they persist.

If we'd understand our world correctly, we'd recognize that the equation of people of color with apes is universal, not just an American phenomenon. This association is so ubiquitous that it has effectively rendered many people clueless as to what could be deemed offensive about the cartoon in question (political cartoons are supposed to be provocative, right?).

American troglodytes on the right of the political spectrum have already caricatured Obama as an ape, so this cartoon shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Racism tends to leak unknowingly from the subconscious in a revealing way, and the association of people of color (Black people particularly) is not always something directly malicious or ill-intended - it just gives you some insight on the type of person who let it leak out.

It took hundreds of years for this association to become ingrained, but as a person of African descent, I sincerely hope it doesn't take that long to erase.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

This is hateful. Did the cartoonist think he was being funny? Who laughs at this sort of crap? What irresponsible moron of an editor allowed this to be printed? Yeah, I know that the first amendment and the right to free speech, are sacred. But a responsible editor might have sent it back and told the cartoonist to criticize the stimulus package in a less offensive manner.

Who is the cartoonist? I couldn't see a signature, but it looks sort of like Glenn McCoy's drawing style. He's a rare ultra-conservative cartoonist, whose work is never funny and poorly drawn (I don't know why conservatives even attempt humor; they're so BAD at it). I can't tell if it's his work or not.

Those who think we're living in a "post-racial" world are mistaken. Racism hasn't gone away -- it's alive and well, and has merely been stashed in the closet. (Sexism on the other hand, is alive and thriving very well out in the open -- but that's another rant for another day!)

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Whoever keeps buying that New York Post rag---Please stop it!!
Let it die. When readership hits zero, the crap will be over.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

I suspect that most Americans are ignorant of the centuries-old simian references concerning African Americans, and African Europeans, and Africans, and ... - the list is endless. However, it extends as far back as the early 16th century, when Europe, more specifically, Portugal, began exploiting the various kingdoms near the western coastal regions of Africa.
Even as 'fine' an American as President Jefferson betrayed his irrational stupidity when, in his Notes on Virginia, he admitted his belief in the myth that the Orangutan kidnapped African women as mates.
How does one confront, how does one engage such deeply entrenched filth as the NY Post cartoonist - and his editors? Those who would retort that it was only a cartoon are no less guilty: they are the ones who render such filth part of their and others' 'common sense'.
How do you "engage" someone or something, how do you break them or it down, when the interlocutor sees NOTHING, feels NOTHING, calling for engagement, like those chained in Plato's cave?
Jesus wept!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Google "Bush or Chimp"

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Why is this right wing troll of long standing, pfeifer999, still on this website in the first place?

What happened to having rules against right wing extremists?

peace,
Paul

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Yup, the cartoon has to do with the chimp that was killed.

Now, can you explain to us what the chimp that was killed has to do with the stimulus bill?

And no, it's not about the legendary thousand chimps at a thousand typewriters. Some racist apologist already tried to float that one, and was laughed out of his little box.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

pfeiffer999, it seems that you are either too ignorant or too indoctrinated to understand.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

When did you get out of prison?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

I don't know anyone who seriously thought that electing Obama was going to end all race division. This is another straw man that the RIght seems to like to toss around.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Dead on pfeifer999. Good comment.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

The economy, most now agree, will continue to get worse over the next two years. There are serious doubts the stimulus bill will NOT do much to improve matters... I'm starting to worry a little bit more not only about near future prospects but the long term. Came across a disturbing article-- http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02182009.html

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Correction to above post--there are doubts the stimulus bill will do much to improve things.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Disapproving of the system won't be enough to change it. I was taught to think that racism could end if white individuals changed their attitude. But a "white" skin in the United States opens many doors for whites whether or not we approve of the way dominance has been conferred on us.

Individual acts can palliate but cannot end, these problems.

To redesign social systems we need first to acknowledge their colossal unseen dimensions. The silences and denials surrounding privilege are the key political surrounding privilege are the key political tool here. They keep the thinking about equality or equity incomplete, protecting unearned advantage and conferred dominance by making these subject taboo. Most talk by whites about equal opportunity seems to me now to be about equal opportunity to try to get into a position of dominance while denying that systems of dominance exist.

It seems to me that obliviousness about white advantage, like obliviousness about male advantage, is kept strongly acculturated in the United States so as to maintain the myth of meritocracy, the myth that democratic choice is equally available to all. Keeping most people unaware that freedom of confident action is there for just a small number of people props up those in power and serves to keep power in the hands of the same groups that have most of it already.

One of the most important things that we all have to come to grips with is that RACISM KILLS (as do sexism and homophobia, and all the other oppressions.) If NOLA didn't show the world that for once and for all, it showed us nothing.

So many people don't seem to understand what racism even is. "Are you saying ________ is racist?" "Oh, no, I'd never say THAT." BULLSHIT. Of course ________ is racist. And so is everyone else who can't see that it was the racism (and classism) killing NOLA residents more even than the flood, or who shies away from charging most of our leaders and our whole government, the entire system is racist to the core.

It's as if they think racism (or any of the other oppressions) is necessarily a CONSCIOUS construct: "I really don't like black people -- I think they're inferior, so let's not fund the levees and then someday they may die."

No, perhaps the worst, but certainly the most intransigent aspect of racism is the part(s) based on SUBconscious or even UNconscious beliefs that there are people who simply don't count as much, for whatever reason. But the funny thing is, those people tend overwhelmingly to fall into the oppressed groups. "Oh, it's only black folk (so who cares?)," or "Oh, it's only poor folk (who are lazy and therefore deserve what they get) and old people (past their prime and useless) anyway."

The US is a nation born of genocide, suckled on slavery, and weaned on apartheid, and the weaning process has been largely confined to a bottle at board meetings.

And as someone else mentioned, maybe here, maybe elsewhere, the sin, in the eyes of the white and affluent, is not the racism itself, but being reminded of it.

To be fair, it is so deeply ingrained that most do not even realize it, and their indignation is quite sincere when they insist that they are not a bit racist, some of their best friends are black, and they (or their parents) even marched in Selma.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

...and the apologists of this pathetic cartoon.

1. Why print this damn cartoon in the first place?

2. What the hell is the real meaning of this asinine cartoon? Do you really know?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

There is nothing subtle at all about it. There is nothing to discuss. You would have to be an idiot not to know what this cartoon is doing.

peace,
Paul

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

The entire Post editorial management assumed they were going to get away with publishing this cartoon. When in doubt, publish the meanest possible thing and stonewall. Such rotten behavior has worked on talk radio for years. However, the print media is more sensitive because printed material doesn't go away.

The cartoon's messages:

--The President is black. This is driven home.

--Black people are depicted as not human, they are purportedly black animals who look somewhat like humans.

--White police murder black people, especially black community leaders, especially the President of the United States. This is shown as normal behavior. After committing the murder, the police show no sense of shame or horror at this action, even any compassion for the dying animal. Both of them just have blank looks and an unrelated small political concern. A shared attitude of complete dehumanization is shown.

--In particular this cartoon emphasizes a case where a black animal has nearly killed a white woman.

Some brain trust at the Post, a group effort, felt that the confluence of racist images in the entire chimp story was too good to pass up, so they ran the cartoon.

It doesn't matter what my skin color is, I feel cold anger about the publication of this cartoon. Rupert Murdoch clearly doesn't like our President because of his skin color. Well, I don't like Rupert Murdoch. I'm not sure I'd like any of the Post's advertisers. I might not hire anyone who I see reading the Post because they might have poor social skills. I might not even patronize any newsstand that sells the Post, if another newsstand is Post-free.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

The occupant of the Oval Office has been caricatured as a chimp for the last 8 years ... allow the cartoonists a few months to break the habit and find another metaphor for political stupidity before starting to whine about racism.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

let love heal this nation. Besides, the 50% + divorce rate can go down as well.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

As a true freethinking independent (I do not subscribe to one ideology or political party) I have to say that from my observations most right wing ideologues do not even believe that racism exist or, that even worse, that it should exist. Pathetic! Yes, extreme liberals and leftists maybe overly sensitive to racism...but at least they do not live in total denial or ignorance.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Nice work, most thoughtful reaction I have seen -- hits on all the subliminal issues that make the race issue as real today as ever - even with Barack Obama as president. What is truly worrisome is how much further to the "psychotic" right edge folks are going. A minority of a minority to be sure but this is the sort of group that produces a lot of mindlessly violent individuals who feel empowered to take matters into their own hands. Not good.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

...that the mainstream press very seldom refers to our new president as "President Obama" -- as custom dictates? All too often he is referred to as "President Barack Obama" or just "Barack Obama." An African-American friend of mine commented on this to me that it was nascent racism, but, in order to assuage him, I just said that they are still so astounded that they still cannot call him by his honored designation.

Still waiting for the nightly news headline reader to strat off with "President Obama said today..."

...or perhaps they are holding their powder for the assassination headline...

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

the past 8 years, where we made GEORGE W BUSH look like a monkey EVERY DAY?? this cartoon monkey doesnt even LOOK like obama at all, and you al sharpton wannabes are whining up a storm.

i think you should get over it and start talking about the banks and states rights some more.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

that was a slur against bush I would be laughing my ass off

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Quite honestly, the first time I saw the cartoon I believed it was in bad taste. But only because it capitalized on a horrendous situation in which a woman was horribly maimed.

I never for one moment saw it as racist, because I don't see our president in that light. I assumed the joke was that a monkey could have written the stimulus package. HA HA, big deal, crass as it was, it did not appear to be racist to me. Just bad humor.

I sincerely wonder about the mindset of someone who automatically associates chimpanzees with black human beings.

There seems to be a lot of people here who claim it was "Very Obvious". Not unless you make those associations in your own mind.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

in 2005, i was fired from a job because i told students (in a biology class) that SOME scientists believe that humans MAY HAVE evolved from APE-like beings in Central Africa and IF it's true, that would be so cool because it would mean we are all related (duh!) and we would realize there's no reason to be racist, etc...

well, 3 kids turned it around and reported that i said "niggas come from monkeys."


since http://www.bushorchimp.com/ has been out, i always felt it was a huge slur against PRIMATES to be compared to bush.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Well, the neocons had a plan, and you fell for it.

Look at all the protests going on right now, over a fucking CARTOON.

But at the same time, the most restrictive anti-choice bill is being passed in North Dakota with barely a peep (although, give Alternet some credit, there's one short blurb on it, compared to 3 articles on the cartoon).

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

The New York Posts cartoon?!! What can I say, this is a despicable cartoon, for all too many reasons.
For years the racists have referred to African Americans as monkeys, this is a throwback to those terrible Jim Crow times. Then you have the issue of domestic terrorism, because that is what this cartoon implies, shooting a beloved president, this cartoon is just irresponsible on so many levels. The cartoonist has crossed the line of bad taste and fans the flames of political threats.
I'm a political cartoonist from the left side of the fence, and it would NEVER cross my mind to draw a cartoon of this nature about Bush, I never did, check out my toons to see
It's up on my website right now
www.whatnowtoons.com
left of center political cartoons.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

This cartoon, was not a cartoon. It was hate in print form. PERIOD!

The cartoon artist should apologize, and the slime should be removed. PERIOD!!

It was unacceptable, not funny.
It was just plain rednecked, wrong, and racist and sent a very evil, and hostile message!!
We DID NOT LIKE IT, IT WAS EXTREMELY DISTASTEFULL!

We are waiting for an apology! It went too far!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

We are boycotting the newspaper! We were not amused.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

If you take a look at Thomas Nast Cartoons (the guy who took down Boss Tweed) you'll notice how he portrayed the Irish of the mid 1800s. They look like apes in human clothes.

The cartoon obviously linking Obama to a chimp is racist, but it didn't start with blacks.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

I sit and read all of this controversy about this cartoon, and I cannot help but notice some things that are very odd about this thing.

First, the bottomfeeders have pointed out that Bush was compared to a chimp often during his presidency. They are right. Dude, the moron DID look like a chimp, and the one factor that most differentiated him from one was the amount of cocaine and alcohol that he could consume before crashing. Well, and his private one-on-one commlink with the Creator of the Universe.

They do have a point. What if this cartoon had somehow slipped by the editors and had been printed while the Cretin President was still in office? If there had been ANY way possible, through any number of loose associations to tie that cartoon to Bush, all hell would have broken out. The cartoonist would have been picked up and "questioned" for days, the Right-wing freakazoids would have been up in arms, and the Post would have printed a special 300-page edition that just repeated "We are SO sorry" over and over again. Not now. There is outrage, but no response.

Also, the timing seems so odd, and the cartoon also. It just isn't worthy of national publication. It is almost like the neocon 'Elves' came up with this idea, and somebody drew it up in a hurry. Odd. Speaking of the Elves...

Another example of disparity in reaction to threats.. Back during the time when a large percentage of the US population was calling for the impeachment of W and Dickie and the gang, due in part to the lies that they used to get the backing for Iraq, I ran across a quote that seemed very very apropos:

"In this recurring nightmare of a presidency, we have a national debate about whether he 'did it,' even though all sentient people know he did. Otherwise there would be debates only about whether to impeach or assassinate."

High Crimes and Misdemeanors, The Case Against Bill Clinton
Ann Bin Colter

Talk about assasinating a Republican president is a crime, and will cause you to be arrested, questioned, detained, and harrassed. For a Democratic president, it is a joke.

See, trAnnie Bin Colter is just ahead of her time... right words, wrong administration

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Granted, the cartoonist probably did not think this one through but, c'mon people. Freud said "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar". Haven't you ever heard someone say "geez, this thing looks like it was written by chimps". I have a friend who (for reasons unknown to me) would occasionally reply to the comment "good morning" with the phrase "what do you really mean by that?". If you really really try, you can probably find something racist in just about any comment.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

to boost readership. All newspapers are suffering
loss of readership due to the internet. I am revulsed by the cartoon and the printing of it is reprehensible.Knowing it would provoke a storm of outrage,perhaps they calculated it would also put the paper in the forefront of news and hence free
publicity. The paper should be boycotted and the storm of protest should be channeled to maximize the spotlight to the negative and tabloid aspects of the paper. Punishment will come on it's own,by way of decreasing revenues and perhaps it's being closed down. The people running the paper under-
stand decreasing revenues,maybe this will wake them to responsible journalism.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

to boost readership. All newspapers are suffering
loss of readership due to the internet. I am revulsed by the cartoon and the printing of it is reprehensible.Knowing it would provoke a storm of outrage,perhaps they calculated it would also put the paper in the forefront of news and hence free
publicity. The paper should be boycotted and the storm of protest should be channeled to maximize the spotlight to the negative and tabloid aspects of the paper. Punishment will come on it's own,by way of decreasing revenues and perhaps it's being closed down. The people running the paper under-
stand decreasing revenues,maybe this will wake them to responsible journalism.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

It is absolutely amazing that this "cartoon" cannot be called out for what it is without delusional individuals making excuses for the author's intent. I had no idea that a "cartoon" depicting the assassination of the POTUS was so damn hilarious, or that it would be extremely well tolerated by far too many individuals.

It does not surprise me at all that rags such as the NY Post attempted to get away with a blatantly racist "cartoon," and then pretend otherwise. In the current media, anything and everything is acceptable. Has it occurred to anyone that Obama is indeed in danger of being assassinated more than Bush ever was? The image of the murdered chimp is an extremely volatile one, it is NOT the "stimulus," (WTF??), and it clearly is meant to infer only one thing.

One of the many reasons we have crap like this drenching the MSM, (pundits included), is because the wingers own it--ideologically and financially. Although we have a moderate Democratic president, the MSM is spewing the exact same slanted and twisted mythology as before. My own mother repeats the wingnut insanity line for line--she has been podnapped by Fox.

Unless progressives develop some guts and actually condemn this type of racist attack for the obscenity it is, this will only continue. And the Obama as terrorist New Yorker cover of last July, seems tame compared to this little display of "humor" from the NY Post. How will all the naysayers feel if something were to happen to Obama? Does anyone remember the murdered (supposedly liberal) people from the Unitarian church last year? The murderer was a fanatical wingnut.
There is a connection between what certain psychologically disturbed individuals listen to and what they read influencing their beliefs and actions. Not all people are capable of critical thinking. If images of a murdered chimp by fascist police does not ring any alarm bells then I suppose nothing will.

If anything racism is on the rise in reaction to Obama becoming POTUS. If some individuals do not believe that, then you are not living in reality. The FBI has reported an increase in the organization and activity of hate groups in the last several months, including a recent assassination plot against Obama. If we want to have a conversation about race, fine, then speak the truth about what racism is by acknowledging it's EXISTENCE!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Do any of you realize how easy it is to be kicked off of Alternet?

It happens all the time.

One minute, you're having a perfectly reasonable and calm debate with people, and the next you have an email that says 'BANNED' in the subject line. There is no explanation of why you were banned, or where you crossed the line.

I know one person to whom this happened and it turned out that the editor of the subject matter just took a personal dislike to the person posting.

There are some very harsh censors on this website, so be careful what you say.

They pretend to be pro-democracy, and pretend to support free discussion of issues, but the reality is very different. Say something they don't approve of and you'll find yourself banished to the gulag......with no warning.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Anybody see Keyes rant today? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYmdipEcXYA
If ever some crazed animal needed to be put down.
hit that link, there's your man!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

curious George...is a beloved....very beloved...likeable.. bright, happy little monkey with ears that stick out... who follows his instinct and thinking and rarely does what he is told to do......and in the end.... things work out.....

I do not think that they were trying to insult Obama..with this cartoon or picked curious George, the monkey because Obama is black.....anymore than they picked a peanut for carter because he has a peanut head or is stupid.......they used the peanuts big bottom to make Carter's huge smile..and the happy face, ears, youth and ease of movement to correlate Obama with Curious George..and don't forget the beloved..people grow up loving Curious George..and we loved Obama...

It is hard not to love such a graceful man, with a good open heart, a warm smile, who is capable of articulating his dreams and thoughts and works hard to turn them into reality.

However, de humanization does work.......Hitler did that to the Jews....it took him a few years..but step by step.. by heaping shame and blame on them.....he was over time able to get many Germans to see their friends, their teachers and doctors and therapists etc....as a lessor specie.

What fears me is not so much the ape stuff..for who can see Obama as a lessor specie ...what fears me is the assasination...we have plenty of angry people who have no personal goals or dreams or whose goals and dreams were distroyed or who wish themselves fame......at any expense..(remember Taxidriver..it was just chance that he killed the pimp..instead of a politican)..and we have the disgrunted..like this cartoonist....who obviously does not like the stimulas package.......alhtough it seems he did not mind the banker package and with their skill and opportunity he and others like him....can make it seem normal...to commit acts that in a healhty society would be sick.

So, we have to make some noise.....because we do not want to lose our capable, handsome, graceful, good hearted, articulate, thinking President who has a strong sense of justice and a desire to serve and an ability to drag us along on his ride of hope.

And we also, need to rise above this sickness...in a society that values its humanity there should be clear rules against dehumanization....a practice that is quite often and openly allowed on this web site. It is one thing to discuss issues..to bring evidence to bear on misrepresentations, but to dehumanize a person or people..that should be off limits. And it is hard for me to think liberal and correlate that with the hatred and prejudice that is openly shouted by many on this site.

So my point dear commentators and Alternet editors is....Prejudice and hate are dangerous..and not at all Progressive or liberal in nature.....atleast not for intelligent people who want to make a difference. A forum for information that we need to be aware of....to discuss ...to brain storm is what is needed. Inciting anger......through emotional discharge, is dangerous. If you are responsible for inciting anger, hate and prejudice ....how can you guys see a difference between yourselves and Bush or Chenney or ARchie Bunker or his counterpart Jefferson?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

I hear there is a place called "America" where freedom of speech is allowed. Apparently it's a myth. Happy race-baiting, all of you.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

The people clamoring most vociferously to misrepresent this political cartoon, which appears to be lampooning Democratic congressman Barney Frank, as a racist call to assassinate President Obama comprise groups which exploit racism and seem to want to see such an assassination attempted.

Prof Goff‘s research into the connections between racist animal characterizations and state violence obviously depends for funding on convincing the nation that such racism continues to be a virulent problem. Race-baiting demagogues like Al Sharpton find themselves becoming anachronisms, and even grassroots groups whose benefits are linked to racial identifications feel the erosion of their political relevance and power in an America governed by a biracial president

Human nature being what it is, it can surprise no one that some people who have carved personal benefit out of racial victimization would secretly like to see an assassination attempt on our first biracial president, the most cynical of them might even want to see a successful assassination, to enable them to go back to their comfortable exploitation of the politics of victimhood rather than having to step up and compete in the politics of equality.

The racist demagogues who are exploiting this cartoon to spread and amplify the notion of assassinating our biracial president are fanning the flames and increasing the danger that such a tragic crime might be committed.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Oh psh. That cartoon is about saying "the stimulus bill is so stupid it must have been written by a monkey" (it's a chimpanzee, by the way). Getting huffy about racism is just looking for something to get huffy about.

Similar psychological mechanisms of discrimination are at work in the bloated incarceration rates of young black men, the trenchant educational achievement gap between blacks and whites, and the racial bias evidenced in law enforcement officer's use of force.

That's a pretty big leap, to assume that all that is caused by racist discrimination.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

"They'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill."

I find it pathetic that so many right-wingers and so many apologists for this assinine cartoon seem to so purposely forget the actually statement used in the cartoon.

So who was that "SOMEONE" that was shot who was writing the bill in this cartoon you apologist ignoramuses?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]