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Psychologists to Obama: Don't Name Torture Apologist John Brenner CIA Director
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November 22, 2008
Dear President-Elect Obama,
We are writing to urge you not to select John Brennan as Director of the CIA. We are psychologists and allies who have long opposed the abuses of detainees under the Bush administration. We are just concluding a successful several-year struggle to remove psychologists from their roles in aiding or abetting these abuses. It has been a distressing fact that, while the Bush administration resorted to abuse and torture of those in our custody, often psychologists have been put in positions to use their psychological expertise to guide these unconscionable practices.
We look forward to your administration as an opportunity for genuine change -- in this case for our country to take a new direction in its treatment of prisoners. We applaud your commitment to closing Guantanamo and are encouraged by your clear statement from your “60 Minutes” interview last Sunday, “America doesn’t torture, and I’m gonna make sure that we don’t torture.” This fuels our hope for a decisive repudiation of the “dark side” -- the willingness to use or abet illegal and unethical coercive interrogation tactics that sometimes amount to torture and often constitute cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment.
We are concerned, however, by reports that you may appoint John Brennan as Director of the CIA. Mr. Brennan served as a high official in George Tenet’s CIA and supported Tenet’s policies, including “enhanced interrogations” as well as “renditions” to torturing countries. According to his own statements, Mr. Brennan was a supporter of the “dark side” policies, wishing only to have some legal justification supplied in order to protect CIA operatives. In describing Director Tenet’s views he stated during a March 8, 2006 Frontline interview:
I think George [Tenet] had two concerns. One is to make sure that there was that legal justification, as well as protection for CIA officers who are going to be engaged in some of these things, so that they would not be then prosecuted or held liable for actions that were being directed by the administration. So we want to make sure the findings and other things were done probably with the appropriate Department of Justice review.
We know, of course, that “the appropriate Department of Justice review” means that torture was authorized and conducted by our government.
The use of these tactics goes against the moral fiber of our country and is never justified. This is true whether these “enhanced interrogation” techniques are used directly by U.S. forces, as in the CIA’s “black sites,” or by other countries acting as our surrogates, as in the “renditions” program where individuals are taken to countries practicing torture, resulting in suffering inflicted by that country’s forces.
Psychology, one of the organizations leading the struggle to change American Psychological Association policy on participation in abusive interrogations.
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Posted by: Don Quixote on Nov 25, 2008 1:55 AM
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Posted by: maxpayne on Nov 25, 2008 4:05 AM
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» RE: And how about ABOLISHING the CIA? Maybe some of it?
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» RE: And how about ABOLISHING the CIA? YES!
Posted by: Lauren
» RE: And how about ABOLISHING the CIA? YES?
Posted by: harryf200
» Throwing the CIA out is not throwing out the baby with bath water.
Posted by: maxpayne
» RE: Throwing the CIA out is not throwing out the baby with bath water.
Posted by: harryf200
» RE: And how about ABOLISHING the CIA? WHY?
Posted by: bryony1
» Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - ARE GOOD PEOPLE!!!!!
Posted by: ds1st
» And had the CIA existed back then, they'd still be in power just like Al Quaida is today !
Posted by: maxpayne
» Ummm .... it's documented that the CIA did recruit a lot of Nazis
Posted by: harryf200
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Posted by: folkie on Nov 25, 2008 4:36 AM
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As John Perkins explains, all politicians are given the same choice, plata o plomo, silver or lead, a bribe or a bullet, riches beyond your wildest dreams or death. Some politicians are rich, others like JFK and Wellstone are dead.
Rockefeller tells the CIA what he wants and they tell the President. The President either complies or is killed. For the background to Perkins' Confessions of an Economic Hitman, I recommend Chapter 23 of Thy Will Be Done The Conquest of the Amazon: Nelson Rockefeller and Evangelism in the Age of Oil by Colby and Dennett, and JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters by James W. Douglass.
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» RE: Who Would Protect Obama?
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» RE: Who Would Protect Obama?
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Posted by: rickiey on Nov 25, 2008 7:19 AM
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But I'm totally in favor of other countries assuming that we are willing torture. It's good for the CIA's ability to do their job.
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» RE: Torture Apologist , what a total fucking ass you are!
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» RE: you are sick
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» RE: Torture Apologist for Director of the CIA? Good idea!
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Posted by: ds1st on Nov 25, 2008 9:11 AM
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He will not let the African-American children be labeled as infidel and put into bondage by Al-Qaeda. He will not let the homosexual be put back in the closet or executed by the sword.
Please protect our citizens by making John Brenner CIA director.
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Posted by: Quannah on Nov 25, 2008 9:47 AM
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Here's a National Journal interview during which he is very clear about where he stands. It isn't a good picture that he paints.
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» RE: Brennan thinks FISA is a good program.
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» RE: Brennan thinks FISA is a good program.
Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Brennan thinks FISA is a good program.
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» RE: Brennan thinks FISA is a good program.
Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Brennan thinks FISA is a good program. So does Obama
Posted by: DCostello2
» Them people here have a lot of stinky double standards.
Posted by: maxpayne
» RE: Brennan thinks FISA is a good program.
Posted by: bryony1
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Posted by: Quannah on Nov 25, 2008 11:38 AM
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He said this is due to the pressure from the NETROOTS!!!
This is amazing.
FINALLY! A VICTORY!
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» YES BUT ...
Posted by: ds1st
» RE: A greedy militarist??? Say it ain't so!
Posted by: Quannah
» RE: A greedy militarist??? Say it ain't so!
Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Not sure where you get your information
Posted by: Lauren
» RE: A greedy militarist??? Say it ain't so!
Posted by: maxpayne
» Actually, the CIA built, trained, armed, and financed Al Quaida and still does.
Posted by: maxpayne
» RE: Actually, the CIA ... financed Al Quaida and still does?
Posted by: harryf200
» RE: *** THIS JUST IN... ***
Posted by: Lauren
» Oh puleeze. He'll get another pro-FISA hack who'll be less known and billed "moderate".
Posted by: maxpayne
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Posted by: whealeydj on Nov 26, 2008 8:24 PM
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Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Nov 27, 2008 12:27 AM
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In a democracy the voting individual must rule. If secrets are kept from the voting individual can he make a proper decision. The question I have asked is whether you can have a secret service in a democracy. In other words, if you have a secret service is a democracy possible.
Our representatives say just trust us. Surely we know better. They are supposed to do what we tell them. They get to thinking that they are elected as dictators. If you believe that they are supposed to be elected dictators then we have nothing further to discuss.
In due time we are going to need more direct democracy. Twenty two states have initiative petition laws. We need the same right at the federal level. The old men haven't gotten it. The young men are going to have to demand it. It may mean taking to the streets. Its hard to get them to give up their power voluntarily.
Let me leave you with a question. IS IT POSSIBLE TO BE RADICAL WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING DEMOCRACY?
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Posted by: Patriot46 on Nov 30, 2008 11:52 PM
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"The trouble is that once you see it, you can’t unsee it. And once you’ve seen it, keeping quiet, saying nothing, becomes as political an act as speaking out. There’s no innocence. Either way, you’re accountable." ~Arundhati Roy
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Posted by: Don Quixote on Nov 25, 2008 1:55 AM
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Posted by: maxpayne on Nov 25, 2008 4:05 AM
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» RE: And how about ABOLISHING the CIA? Maybe some of it?
Posted by: harryf200
» RE: And how about ABOLISHING the CIA? YES!
Posted by: Lauren
» RE: And how about ABOLISHING the CIA? YES?
Posted by: harryf200
» Throwing the CIA out is not throwing out the baby with bath water.
Posted by: maxpayne
» RE: Throwing the CIA out is not throwing out the baby with bath water.
Posted by: harryf200
» RE: And how about ABOLISHING the CIA? WHY?
Posted by: bryony1
» Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - ARE GOOD PEOPLE!!!!!
Posted by: ds1st
» And had the CIA existed back then, they'd still be in power just like Al Quaida is today !
Posted by: maxpayne
» Ummm .... it's documented that the CIA did recruit a lot of Nazis
Posted by: harryf200
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Posted by: folkie on Nov 25, 2008 4:36 AM
Current rating: 5 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As John Perkins explains, all politicians are given the same choice, plata o plomo, silver or lead, a bribe or a bullet, riches beyond your wildest dreams or death. Some politicians are rich, others like JFK and Wellstone are dead.
Rockefeller tells the CIA what he wants and they tell the President. The President either complies or is killed. For the background to Perkins' Confessions of an Economic Hitman, I recommend Chapter 23 of Thy Will Be Done The Conquest of the Amazon: Nelson Rockefeller and Evangelism in the Age of Oil by Colby and Dennett, and JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters by James W. Douglass.
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» RE: Who Would Protect Obama?
Posted by: sunnywater
» RE: Who Would Protect Obama?
Posted by: georgiaorwell
» RE: Who Would Protect Obama?
Posted by: Lauren
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Posted by: rickiey on Nov 25, 2008 7:19 AM
Current rating: 1 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
But I'm totally in favor of other countries assuming that we are willing torture. It's good for the CIA's ability to do their job.
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» RE: Torture Apologist , what a total fucking ass you are!
Posted by: Lauren
» RE: you are sick
Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Torture Apologist for Director of the CIA? Good idea!
Posted by: hilaryuk
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Posted by: ds1st on Nov 25, 2008 9:11 AM
Current rating: 1 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
He will not let the African-American children be labeled as infidel and put into bondage by Al-Qaeda. He will not let the homosexual be put back in the closet or executed by the sword.
Please protect our citizens by making John Brenner CIA director.
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Posted by: Quannah on Nov 25, 2008 9:47 AM
Current rating: 5 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Here's a National Journal interview during which he is very clear about where he stands. It isn't a good picture that he paints.
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» RE: Brennan thinks FISA is a good program.
Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Brennan thinks FISA is a good program.
Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Brennan thinks FISA is a good program.
Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Brennan thinks FISA is a good program.
Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Brennan thinks FISA is a good program. So does Obama
Posted by: DCostello2
» Them people here have a lot of stinky double standards.
Posted by: maxpayne
» RE: Brennan thinks FISA is a good program.
Posted by: bryony1
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Posted by: Quannah on Nov 25, 2008 11:38 AM
Current rating: Not yet rated [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
He said this is due to the pressure from the NETROOTS!!!
This is amazing.
FINALLY! A VICTORY!
[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]
» YES BUT ...
Posted by: ds1st
» RE: A greedy militarist??? Say it ain't so!
Posted by: Quannah
» RE: A greedy militarist??? Say it ain't so!
Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Not sure where you get your information
Posted by: Lauren
» RE: A greedy militarist??? Say it ain't so!
Posted by: maxpayne
» Actually, the CIA built, trained, armed, and financed Al Quaida and still does.
Posted by: maxpayne
» RE: Actually, the CIA ... financed Al Quaida and still does?
Posted by: harryf200
» RE: *** THIS JUST IN... ***
Posted by: Lauren
» Oh puleeze. He'll get another pro-FISA hack who'll be less known and billed "moderate".
Posted by: maxpayne
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Posted by: whealeydj on Nov 26, 2008 8:24 PM
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Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Nov 27, 2008 12:27 AM
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In a democracy the voting individual must rule. If secrets are kept from the voting individual can he make a proper decision. The question I have asked is whether you can have a secret service in a democracy. In other words, if you have a secret service is a democracy possible.
Our representatives say just trust us. Surely we know better. They are supposed to do what we tell them. They get to thinking that they are elected as dictators. If you believe that they are supposed to be elected dictators then we have nothing further to discuss.
In due time we are going to need more direct democracy. Twenty two states have initiative petition laws. We need the same right at the federal level. The old men haven't gotten it. The young men are going to have to demand it. It may mean taking to the streets. Its hard to get them to give up their power voluntarily.
Let me leave you with a question. IS IT POSSIBLE TO BE RADICAL WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING DEMOCRACY?
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Posted by: Patriot46 on Nov 30, 2008 11:52 PM
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"The trouble is that once you see it, you can’t unsee it. And once you’ve seen it, keeping quiet, saying nothing, becomes as political an act as speaking out. There’s no innocence. Either way, you’re accountable." ~Arundhati Roy
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