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Sarah Palin and the Wrong Way to Battle Sexism

By Rebecca Hyman, AlterNet. Posted September 16, 2008.


Palin's VP run reveals more dimensions to sexism in America. And merely weeding out a few bad apples like Chris Matthews won't solve the problem.
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Now that the "pit bull in lipstick" who got her start in the PTA has had her honor defended on the national stage, it's only fitting that we're all waiting for Obama's "female surrogates" to fight back. In case we were a bit anesthetized, with all that rocking and "change" chanting, we now have a reason to wake up: hot girl-on-girl action, Election 2008.

In the two weeks since Sarah Palin was introduced to America, first as the second-ever female candidate for vice president, and soon after as the baby-making, gun-toting, wolf-killing beauty queen of the Christian Right, the question of sexism -- or, more precisely, the media's use of sexist frames to introduce and belittle female candidates -- has returned with a vengeance.

The first burst of coverage concentrated nearly exclusively on Palin's family and appearance. In Lifetime-style soft focus, we learned that she's married to her high school sweetheart, her fifth child has Down's syndrome, and her eldest son is bound for Iraq. Then US, People and the Enquirer sharpened the view. Could the McCain camp truly have known that Palin's unmarried 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, was five months pregnant? Was Trig really Bristol's first baby? And what about those persistent rumors that Palin had an affair?

The National Review Online countered these salacious details by asserting that Palin's family represented "vitality and life -- the men are virile, the women are fecund." Robert Novak called her "attractive"; Rush Limbaugh crowed that the Right had the "babe"; bloggers named her McCain's "Trophy Vice"; and Maureen Dowd engaged in a fantasy about Palin in go-go boots. State-specific political buttons, produced by day four, proclaimed "Coldest State, Hottest Governor," and "Hoosiers for the Hot Chick." The New York Times added some gravity to the gossip mill when it reported that the vetting process for Palin had been cursory at best. Unnamed sources said that McCain had wanted the pro-choice Joe Lieberman to be his candidate, but he had caved under James Dobson's pressure. Palin was a craven choice; a pair of breasts; an ingenue; a joke.

What has passed for "issue specific" coverage of Palin has focused on her purported moral hypocrisy: She can't be pro-life if she shoots at wolves and moose; she can't be pro-abstinence if her daughter isn't a virgin; she can't be a serious candidate if she won a beauty contest; she can't be for family values if she refuses to stay at home. The Times' "Mommy Wars: Campaign Edition" queried mothers about Palin's prospective work-family balance and found that most were uneasy about Palin's taking on such a difficult job: "A mother of an infant with Down syndrome taking up full-time campaigning? Not my value set" was a typical response. (Not to be outdone, the Washington Post titled its story on the same theme "Gov. Mom.") Is it any surprise that Rick Davis, campaign manager for McCain, spoke of needing to revise the speech that had been written for the prospective vice presidential candidate because it was "very masculine"?

Meanwhile, the majority of Americans, myself included, remain clueless about the true intellectual and political positions of the person before us. How "nice" for her to get this kind of a free pass; to only have to parry comments about her body and her kids. If you're a female politician, the political is the personal. Your body is the source of your ideas, and the issues you support are "women's issues." And if you cross into male territory -- guns, money, security -- your best response, as Palin seems, intuitively, to get, is camp.

It's obvious that the caricature of Palin to which we're being exposed is the inverse of the caricature of Hillary Clinton. Even if you'd missed the first half of the campaign, all you'd have to do is flip the script. If Palin is "better suited to be a calendar model for a local auto body shop than a holder of the second-highest office in the land," then Clinton is a dumpy, frigid, post-menopausal, castrating bluestocking who only got women's votes because she was a victim of her husband's indiscriminate -- but hell, with that kind of wife? -- sexual transgressions. At least the Right gets the "sexy librarian"; those of us on the other side are stuck with the saccharine Sisterhood of the Traveling Pantsuits.

The surfeit of ridicule to which female candidates have been exposed throughout this campaign has sent feminist writers into a tailspin. Some, like Melody Rose, writing in the Oregonian, have taken to patiently explaining that women are just a teensy weensy bit constrained: "A woman has to choose between running as the candidate with the proper competence -- and thus, being manly -- or as the candidate who is properly feminine -- and thus, being unqualified," she writes. The Nation's Katha Pollitt was more succinct. The McCain camp must think women have the "IQ of a Tampax," she snorted, to bet they would switch from Clinton to Palin purely because Palin is a woman.

Over at Salon, Rebecca Traister's deep disappointment in having to take Palin seriously was palpable: "What a failure by McCain to have this woman -- with her pregnancies and progeny and sex life and child-rearing prowess now being inspected instead of her policy and voting history -- stand in for, and someday, possibly emblemize, the political progress of American women ..." And at Feministing, cdnmama wrote that "Women all over the U.S. must come to terms with the somewhat disconcerting fact that the ticket in this race that offers a chance for the improvement of women's economic and political situations ... is, in fact, made up of two men."

There are a few problems with this kind of point-counterpoint approach to the question of "sexism" in the press and on the political stage. The first is that rarely is the situation as neat and tidy as the recent brouhaha over Palin. It's true that the Women's Media Center produced a harrowing video of clips, most from FOX and MSNBC, demonstrating that not only Clinton, but also female commentators and other women politicians, are regularly sexualized and demeaned by members of the press. There's no shortage of video, radio, print and cartoon denigrations of women, particularly female candidates, as the National Organization for Women's "Media Hall of Shame" has amply proved.

In isolation, these clips are clearly offensive; the commentators are abhorrent, especially when they're laughing, or sneering, in the midst of their remarks. But most political commentary is more slippery than this. The caricature may look the same, but instead of being the central focus of the piece, it's the catchy hook; the thing we're not supposed to take seriously; the appetizer before the serious critique. A recent piece by Gail Collins in the New York Times is a case in point. She begins by referencing the "moose-gutting, polar bear-trashing, aerobics-class-networking vice presidential nominee" and then moves in to the real content of the piece. It's a rhetorical flourish, but repeated often enough, these epithets begin to stick.

And then there are the candidates themselves. In order to soften the incendiary potential of their candidacy, many female politicians will speak of their politics as stemming from their roles as wives and mothers, thus legitimizing the very approach for which they'll be skewered in the press. To ask female politicians to pretend they aren't women, or mothers, however, is equally absurd.

It's for these reasons, and many others, that I find it troubling that "feminism" has come to mean the work of pointing out, over and over -- sometimes politely, sometimes with rancor -- specific remarks or images that are demeaning to women. No longer a movement for social justice with a goal of freeing both men and women from pernicious and confining ideas about masculinity and femininity, power and privilege, feminism is seen today as a game of "gotcha," with women -- mainly wealthy white women -- playing the game against men to win.

In this caricature of the movement, feminists are just another "special interest group," showing up on some "Crossfire"-style split screen to point out Chris Matthews' latest gaffe. And sure, it's good that as a result of these kinds of critiques, the Times' ombudsman scoured its coverage of the Clinton campaign and expressed "regret" for writing about the "Clinton cackle." But does anyone think that nailing MSNBC -- which, in true cowardly fashion, just demoted both Matthews and Keith Olbermann in order to look "fair and balanced" -- is going to stop people like Donny Deutsch from calling Palin the "new feminist ideal" because "men want to mate with her and women want to be her"? Since when has being a successful sex object been a feminist cause celebre? And what has happened to the public understanding of what feminism really means, if the word can be appropriated in such a fashion?

There's a big difference between identifying sexist acts and undermining patriarchy, the system of power and privilege that reinforces and grounds particular stories about how men and women should behave, how sex and gender should be expressed, about who is rational and who is emotional, who's a "fighter" and who's a "babe." These narratives are refracted and reinforced by the media and by people speaking from podiums, most certainly, but they aren't the work of a few bad eggs.

To equate feminism with the fight against "sexism" is to imply that the work of feminism is that of changing or eliminating those individuals who perpetrate these sexist acts. If we could just stop the Chris Matthewses and the Norman Mailers, the Maureen Dowds and the Phyllis Schlaflys, the story goes; if we could just get people to stop watching FOX News, or write another letter to MSNBC, then somehow, someday, women will be treated with respect. And it's the idea that feminists focus on individuals, rather than systems of power, that grounds the conservative caricature of feminists as a cardigan-flapping bunch of prudes, censoring a couple of good fellows who were just making a joke.

If all it took to free women, or African-Americans, or immigrants, or the poor, from the stories that make them seem "different," menacing, irrational and emotional was "recognition," then feminists should be spending their money dropping educational pamphlets from the skies. But these ideas about masculinity and femininity, sexuality and race -- ideas that make the joke of the New Yorker cover instantly comprehensible, no matter what you think of the joke -- are entrenched and crucial to the ways we in America have made the world make sense. If it were easy to overturn the history of these stories about blacks and women, we could simply point out that Palin and Clinton aren't getting a fair shake and that Michelle Obama is walking a tightrope. We could expect that the pages of print devoted to scrutinizing the Clinton coverage would have influenced the coverage of Palin. But that's just not the case.

At first glance, it seems like a harmless waste of time to devote political analysis to the question of whether Barack Obama might be "too thin" to be president, implying he's a bit too faggy for the job, or to joke about Palin as a dominatrix, spanking McCain. It feels safe, and comfortable, to bring these candidates out of the stratosphere and onto the couch. But if we waste the next 60 days on questions of "personality," with the word standing in for gender and racial conformity, rather than intellectual heft, the conservatives could win. And if we keep on with the fiction that racial and gender stereotypes are held by a few remaining bad eggs, we will severely underestimate the challenge that this election poses to ourselves as individuals, and to our nation.

The excitement generated in the first months of the Obama campaign was at least in part a result of the legacy of movement politics, the language of which saturated most of Obama's early speeches. It was the civil rights movement, the anti-war movement, the feminist movement, the gay rights movement, that spoke of making fundamental, liberating change. It's that kind of change that roused the people who had never voted and never cared about voting to think that this time might be different. It's why Sarah Palin saved her deepest scorn for movement organizers, to put us on notice that that kind of change is dead. But there's this thing about movements and change: They don't need heroes; they don't need magical leaders. All they need, all they ever need, is time.

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Rebecca Hyman is a writer and professor living in Portland.

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Posted by: VMRH on Sep 16, 2008 11:31 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This commentary makes some excellent points. It is the first thoughtful (not hysterical) piece I have seen on Palin. It will take a long time before trying to create a less sexist society does not entail pointing to people and saying, "that is a sexist comment," which frankly, gets tedious after you've done it a hundred times. Very well done, RH.

However, concerning Palin, I am very sorry to tell you that liberals do not have a lock on wanting to see their daughters break every glass ceiling in the house. Many, perhaps most, conservatives do, too. There is a Red State Feminism that has lurked under wraps while feminism has been defined by liberals, and these Red State Feminists have never felt comfortable calling themselves feminists as a result.

The joy you see in the crowds of women and girls at Palin's events are the long bottled-up expression of Red State Feminism. These women (and men) are not morons, they don't have the IQ of a tampax--how utterly condescending to assume so. They have a different value system, but can't wait to see their daughter become the President of the United States and the next Bill Gates put together. To see the first woman with a real shot at the White House be one of them, and not one of the Blue State Feminists, is almost beyond belief for them--and they are wild with joy. AS AM I.

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Please, stop apologizing for Sarah Palin
Posted by: Kym525 on Sep 16, 2008 12:45 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Personally, I don't care what she looks like or that G. Gordon Liddy would like her for his annual 'Babes With Guns' calendar. Why is anyone suprised by the sexist comments from the right? These guys are a shining symbol of the patriarchy and it clearly shows they have NO RESPECT for Caribou Barbie.

I don't give a damn that her seventeen year-old daughter got knocked-up by her high-school boyfriend. I don't care that she's a working mom of five and that her baby son, Trig has Down's Syndrome. I don't care because she's just not SPECIAL. There are a LOT of mothers out there juggling and succeeding at both home and career.

I DO CARE that this woman supports abstinence-only education, which study after study after study by nonpartisan groups has shown to be INEFFECTIVE. I DO CARE that this woman has made victims of rape PAY for their own rape kits. Just imagine the numbers of First Nations women and poor women who aren't able to prove their cases. I DO CARE that this woman has NO EXPERIENCE outside of Wasilla as far as governing is concerned, especially when there are far more qualified candidates McCain should have chosen from--Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Condeleeza Rice--for starters. I DO CARE that she believes women and their doctors incapable of making the personal choice to be mothers. I DO CARE that this woman asked a public librarian if she would have a problem banning books, then fired the woman within a week. I DO CARE that she does not believe in tribal sovereignity, that she is stonewalling against the press, that she has no IDEA what the Bush Doctrine is. I DO CARE that she represents a political party that has been outright HOSTILE to women's rights, including equal pay for equal work--i.e. Lilly Ledbetter.

What I find sexist, is that too many people-- especially WOMEN--are willing to give Palin a free pass rather than demanding excellence. Have we feminists lost sight of what the ideals of feminism are because we're so stuck on wanting to see a woman in power, even if her beliefs and positions are totally ANTITHETICAL to what feminism is? If that's the case, perhaps we should be supporting such rabid anti-feminists like Ann Coulter and Phyllis Schafly--after all they are WOMEN!

The bottom line has nothing to do with Red State/Blue State feminism (whatever the hell THAT is). Sarah Palin is UNQUALIFIED to hold the position of Vice President and I wish women would just stop trying to excuse her incompetence.

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Red-state "feminism" leaves most women out in the cold
Posted by: CA NOW on Sep 16, 2008 1:32 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Exactly how feminist can you be if you don't even support equal pay? Most working women want equal pay, paid sick leave to care for their kids, maternity leave policies that don't put the U.S. miles behind every other industrialized nation, and a nationwide health care plan. All policies that Republicans have been and continue to be firmly against.

There's plenty of evidence of McCain's misogyny, and choosing a female VP candidate doesn't negate that.

Moreover, simply being female, even a working woman, even a mother with a career, does not make you a feminist, or good for women.

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The Real Sexist is McCain
Posted by: Kym525 on Sep 16, 2008 3:49 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Before the Palin-istas get all excited about their woman, think about this:

If he wanted to choose a woman as his running mate, wouldn't he have chosen someone with more leadership experience and knowledge of world events? Wouldn't he have chosen someone with the aptitude for quick decision-making, strentgth and intelligence? I can think of at least three women--all Republicans--who would have made the ideal candidate: Condeleeza Rice (hello, Secretary of State???); Kay Bailey Hutchinson (Senator from Texas); or Peggy Noonan (former Special Assistant to Ronald Reagan). Immpecable credentials all.

So, why pick some so-called "hockey mom" from the Styx? Because she's just the kind of arm candy he seems to like. She's political dynamite and becomes even more so as the truth about her is brought to light. The other three women I named would challenge him and in some cases be quick to disagree. These other women represent EVERYTHING that the republican male mindset despises in a woman--strength, savvy, independence, intelligence and power--even if they happen to belong to the same political party. These are the very things they despised (and still despise) in Hilary Clinton.

Let's face it, Palin may come off as a "pit bull with lipstick" (and my pit bull Max is not amused by the comparison), but at the end of the day, she'll do exactly what she's told. She'll repeat the party line without question, even if--as her interview with Charles Gibson so graphically illustrated--she doesn't know the answers. If she's the hope for red state feminists, they don't aim that high or have higher aspirations for their daughters.

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» Excellent analysis! Posted by: LeeAnnG
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Palin and Sexism
Posted by: ds2oo8 on Sep 16, 2008 5:33 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Here is a useful resource related to Gov. Sarah Palin - the most comprehensive page of information on her record available on the Net. It includes videos of her saying her proposed $30 billion natural gas pipeline is the “will of God,” her saying a month ago she doesn’t know what the VP of the U.S. does, and her complaining four months ago that Hillary Clinton was whining about “sexist” coverage -

http://dailysource.org/palin

It has in-depth research, audio clips, videos, excerpts and links to hundreds of articles, including many from papers and TV stations in Alaska. It has rare footage, including her telling the 2008 convention of the Alaska Independence Party, whose goal is to give Alaska a vote on seceding from the U.S. to “keep up the good work.”

The level of research is unparalleled. The site’s editors include an Emmy-award winning CNN reporter, the former operating editor of the Christian Science Monitor’s web site, the former head of NPRs News Blog and the Executive Director of the Online News Association. Check it out here -

http://dailysource.org

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RE: An Alaskan pastor criticizes Sarah Palin
Posted by: nen on Sep 17, 2008 4:53 AM   
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Thank you for this information, HSBrother. I don't think it's off-topic at all, given that we're discussing the character of Ms. Palin.

I'm not even American and she scares me. The anti-intellectualism epidemic in the U.S. has got to be stopped.

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RE: An Alaskan pastor criticizes Sarah Palin
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 17, 2008 7:15 AM   
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It's good that Palin's religious beliefs are coming to the forefront. That's what conttrols her life. She would be a disaster for this country. Thanks for your comment, Anna

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RE: An Alaskan pastor criticizes Sarah Palin
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 17, 2008 7:15 AM   
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It's good that Palin's religious beliefs are coming to the forefront. That's what conttrols her life. She would be a disaster for this country. Thanks for your comment, Anna

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In my state where I live, Misery (MO), there are more job losses and broken relationships.
Posted by: dmwsd92 on Sep 17, 2008 4:06 AM   
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Palin's just plain lucky that she can have a comfy family of 5. In my state where there are families with more than 2 kids, most of them are pushed into deep debts what with job layoffs and shrinking 401ks along with higher oil prices. To top that off, there are more broken relationships which are usually seen in lower and middle working class families be it divorce or spousal abuse. Coincidental? I think not. While I don't expect Obama to fix this mess overnight, I think he'll at least damper down the mess by taking the country in the right direction. At least he'll slow down these costly wars and show some compassion for the working class by giving people at least a chance to catch up even if he doesn't change things fundamentally what with a tough opposition he's bound to face. Mccain and Palin, on the other hand, will only make matters worse. Every week there's always at least a half dozen young ones who sign up in Iraq and I know a lot of these youngsters are from families with history of bad relationships or even domestic abuse. Worse, a lot of these young ones are from divorced parents. Putting young ones in war and making it more difficult for parents to keep their jobs and even their marriages has already been done these last 8 years and the last thing this state of Misery (MO) needs is another 4 years of it.

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For me its easy....
Posted by: Marlena on Sep 17, 2008 5:27 AM   
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Palin is an extreme right wing wacko!! A Dominionist who practices an extremely twisted version of quasi christianity. Do we want someone who fervently wants to start a nike war in the Mid East to force their god to return and fix things anywhere near the nukes??

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Obama Needs a Spokeswoman
Posted by: US Citizen on Sep 17, 2008 5:46 AM   
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Why doesn't Barack Obama have a high-level spokeswoman, well-liked and articulate, for his campaign? Otherwise, whenever Obama and Biden attack Sarah Palin, they will look impolite and sexist. I think a high-level spokeswoman within the Obama campaign could speak about Sarah Palin from the female side.

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'Feminism' vs Liberation
Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 17, 2008 5:56 AM   
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there are women who will do anything to get their way- including undermining the Goal for a level playing field for ALL.
They are no different then their male sociopathic counterparts.
Hillary and Ferraro, were a prime example- Attempting to Par & parcel out the Womens movement from the Equal Rights Movememt- Mortal Sin.women are not just the majority demographically in the Minorities Equal rights Movement- We are the Bearers of the Remining parts of the 'Minorities', and the 'Majority' of society.
FYI We give birth to Boys & Girls, of all colors, cultures, religions and sexual orientations.We ARE the Equal Rights Movement!
Thus ANYONE who goes against Us and Our children are OUR enemy- even other females.
If you say my Gay son is an abomination in the eyes of God and therefore he is not worthy of Equal rights...You are My enemy.Not only are you restricting my offsprings Right to pursue 'Life, Liberty and Happiness' You are claiming Your Illusions of Gods Judgemnt take prescendence over Mine!Thus claiming divine Superiority over Me and My Son.
So it is not Sexism per se which is the problem it is the Proclaimed Superiority, the Arrogance of Judgement and the intentional Barring of freedoms/Rights /Opportunities by other mere Mortals- regardless of gender/Race/ethniticity/Sexual orientation.
this is the same 'Pay backs a Bitch' attitude which many 'Joanie Come lately's' are doing in this current Political season.
Real Libbers, Life long advocates for Equal Rights for ALL, Know exactly which women are supporting Sarah because she is female. The ones who have not had a CLUE what has transpired over our journey for thelast 35 (80) Yrs! They are the same ones who either..Told Us not to hang around theBoys, 'you'll get a Reputation' or they are the back stabbing social/professional Climbers who will do anything to reach their own personal goals.
So if Sarah Wants to use her Feminine 'Wiles' to Woo the voters, we have every right to use those 'wiles' against her.She is just as Ruthless and self centered as her male cohorts.
Ifshe claims a 'hockey Mom from a small Town' is qualified to be second in Command, then we have a right to take that assumption out for a test drive!
It is NOT sexism when a Female uses her Female attributes to attain her goals and the World actually evaluates the claim and its validity.
She is no different than a man stating to an employer - "you have to hire me, I'm a White male! You Owe Me!"
so regadless of Whether Palin is 'Lipstick on a pitbull' or 'Lipstick on a Pig', she is NOT Qualified and no amount of Crying,Footstomping,
manipualting or LYING she does will not change that FACT! Mommy multitasking doesnot Equate to VP credentials.And neither does a govonorhip from a state with a Population equal to only a metro city, or with only 2 'industries', and 2 demographics.

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Sexism is Questioning What Palin Does
Posted by: FoonTheElder on Sep 17, 2008 6:36 AM   
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Palin's idea of sexism is when other people don't do what she wants or question what she does. If you don't act like a puppet, you're being sexist.

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Sarah just got the Jewish vote!
Posted by: Ky Lake Dave on Sep 17, 2008 6:38 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Several American Jewish groups plan a major rally outside the United Nations on Sept. 22 to protest against Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Hillary snubbed them and Obama ignored an invitation to the rally to the NON PARTICAN event. Hillary Clinton accepted an invitation to speak as did Sarah Palin. Once Hillary found out Palin was coming Hillary backed out.

I think that Hillary’s ego just could not stand it if Palin generated a larger crowd than she did. And I think Palin’s crowd would have been larger and louder! I think the side by side speeches would be very telling. Hillary knows she can not compete with a genuine person.

Obama snubbed the event. Hillary backed out. The majority of Jewish people have voted democrat in the past. But I think the Jewish community will feel jilted by this action. Expect a large Jewish turn out for McCain Palin! I am sure the McCain Palin campain thanks you Obama and Hillary for the extra votes. Every bit helps.

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SOMETIMES A CIGAR IS JUST A CIGAR!
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 17, 2008 7:33 AM   
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Sarah Palin is incompetent, a liar, nuts, and has no idea what the job of VP involves. She sounds as though she's ready to run the world. Man, woman or unspecified, she is a disaster. None of it is due to the fact that she's a woman. All of the things that dis-qualify her for the job of VP would be just as undesirable in a man. People in the media and countless others drag out the 'sexism' thing just because it's there. Thanks, ANNA

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Is it sexism to make off-hand remarks about appearances?
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Sep 17, 2008 8:46 AM   
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I recall both fans and enemies of Edwards characterizing him as everything from "pretty" to "handsome" and/or "charming/engaging" etc...

McCain doesn't get my vote based on his policies, but I think the personal, swift-boat style attacks on Palin are at least a little misplaced.

You're fighting an uphill battle making personal attacks on someone who a) isn't a Washington insider like the Obiden wreck b) used her right-to-choose and chose to raise a mentally handicapped child, with all the sacrifices and hardships associated c) has most of the "experience" of Obama, minus a couple of years in the Senate.

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Ignore Palin
Posted by: reelectnoone on Sep 17, 2008 9:07 AM   
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It is time to ignore Palin. She has had her celebrity...now move on back to McCain's lies.

Palin is not running for office. She is the "Trojan Moose", the "Bush in a dress" riding in on his coat tails.

There is precious little discussion about the issues. The stupid media is being distracted by an empty pretty face while the issues important to the country are being ignored.

All I can say about Palin is that she would be the best looking VP we ever had. Perhaps that's what McCain is counting on...stupid male hormones at the polls.

Give me a break !

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RACE AND GENDER - WAR
Posted by: ashbaines on Sep 17, 2008 9:26 AM   
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Sarah Palin was chosen - not for pluck and values - but for the constituency she brought with her.

Half of McCain's base was indifferent or hostile to him. He's another empty suit [ just like jr ] and tutored in neo conservatism.

McCain needed a conservative symbol - and he put her in the front lines to taunt the left and take the fire.

DEMS took the bait... idiots.

A now savaged Sarah has Aunt Beatrice and Uncle Harry manning the polls - fighting for old glory - aginst them darkies and socialists.

Barack and Michelle are as ghetto as the Partridge Family -- and have much in common with Sarah Palin. \

Barack Obama makes Wisconsin housewives beam with pride at the success of our social experiment. Aunt Beatrice and Uncle Harry wanted Blacks to grow up and be the Obama Family.

But they would rather vote for the white suit than the white man with dark skin.

That's sad and highly self destructive.

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Enough Already
Posted by: outlook on Sep 17, 2008 9:42 AM   
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So Lois Lane managed to 'out' Superman, and give him a one week bounce; political viagra is no remedy for economic meltdown.

Time for this hubristic little woman to go home and care for her family; time for America to focus on what matters.

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Trite from the right.....
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 17, 2008 9:59 AM   
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Why are you surprised that at this tactic? So what she is being exposed to some of the SAME treatment that Hilary had to endure! Stop it, the right is doing most of the exploits, even as they whine and distract attention from the issues!

What I want to know is what are the issues that they (McShame/Paleface) are running on! Who cares that she can shoot, have babies, work and keep her husband happy! Women have been doing those same things and no one has ever asked them "how do you do it?", so stop the insanity!

What concerns me is that this woman was picked over other women in government that are more qualified! What concerns me is that she has too little experience, and doesn't appear to understand foreign policy! Being able to see the Siberian peninsula from Alaska doesn't count as experience! What I want to know is does she have what it takes to run more than her sarcastic wit! What concerns me is her disrespect of community organizers, and her obvious ignorance that in the "big city" sometimes you need to have a voice that can and will champion for the everyday Joe/Jane! No my concern is that much like McShame there is no vision for what this country can be other than what we have experienced for the last 8 years!

Just a note on her "clean-up" from the "special interests, good ole boys, & lobbyists in Washington" - since it was the Repugnikans Newt & Tom Delay, Jack Abramoff that raised the standards of payoff and special interests maybe she can kick out the lobbyists within the McShame campaign!

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Real Sexism vs False Outrage
Posted by: CA NOW on Sep 17, 2008 10:21 AM   
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There is real sexism being directed at Sarah Palin, but questioning her decisions, her experience and her policy positions is adamantly not sexist.

We're keeping a running list of Why Sarah Palin is Bad for American Women, and we're far from the only ones who recognize that.

At its core, anyone claiming to be feminist (as Palin does) needs to believe that men and women are inherently equal and entitled to equal opportunities and compensation. Despite how the conservatives may try to spin things, most women want equal pay, paid sick leave to care for their children, maternity leave policies that don't leave the U.S. years behind every other industrialized nation, and a nation-wide health care plan.

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Sexist?
Posted by: LeaderofMen on Sep 17, 2008 10:22 AM   
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Now that the McCain campaign won't let Palin answer any questions I can now officially label them SEXIST. Don't let the lady answer any of those hard questions. Let the men in the party do it for her.

BWAHAHAHAH! Who's the sexist, you morons.

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I'm not convinced Palin is the real deal
Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Sep 17, 2008 11:23 AM   
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Either Sarah and Tina Fey are twins or SNL has pulled off the hoax of the century.

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covering head with arms and taking a defensive position
Posted by: foreverhope on Sep 17, 2008 12:13 PM   
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I really like Chris Matthews. I think his mouth gets ahead of his brain, but there are good things and bad things about (almost) everyone. He is excited, and worried, like lots of us. He works hard, I actually worry about his health. He is dedicated to his work and knows it is important to our democracy. Now his intelligence is insulted, same as us. Why didn't he 'get it' sooner? who knows and oh well, can't cry over spilt milk. He has balls, big ones, and he is asking questions and hitting hard so he is ok in my book. If I don't like something I write to him and tell him so, or pick up the phone and yell at his comment line. But I like him and glad we have him. No one's perfect.

Sorry fellow feminists.

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X-POLYGAMIST WIFE in ARIZONA
Posted by: X-POLYGAMIST WIFE on Sep 17, 2008 12:31 PM   
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If elected, I wonder if Palin would help the polygamists in Colorado City, Arizona. McCain never did.

BANKING ON HEAVEN .COM

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They have'nt even come close yet...this is how ya do it!
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Sep 17, 2008 1:18 PM   
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You can say they're playing a 'sexist game'but I think the whole thing makes for one funny situation for the 'backdoor' first female VP. So here it is.
Palin will become the first VP in history that will still demand to know what the job of the Governor of Alaska does and if she can do both as Vice President and will ask just how much vice she can get away with as VP because she goes no where without her trusty wolf gun and field dressing kit,which will be a big hit in Congress when she has to break a tie vote. At which point she'll demand everyone that does'nt vote with her to leave and not come back until they all agree that she does'nt know what the hell is going on,besides having a pregnant daughter ( she's still being briefed on that one) and sending her son to Iraq ( which she believe's is the last island in the Aluetian chain). Later she will organize the nation's first 'War on Menopause' and every GYN will be exiled for saying it's natural at which point she'll call for a first strike on Victoria's Secret.
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It's a Ploy and Has Nothing to Do With Feminism
Posted by: Shankari46 on Sep 17, 2008 6:51 PM   
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No one is interested in an old ugly man who spouts about boring war stories. The media made such an issue about Hillary and her supporters, and the Right decided to trot out the most outrageous;yet attractive individual they could find. They intentionally found a woman who has so many skeletons in her closet that a firestorm would erupt with these things coming out. She's the complete opposite of Hillary on the issues even ridiculously so. She's supposed to pose as the cute little Thang that big man McCain is supposed to protect. She's ludicrous on purpose. What's even more stupid is all the morons who fell for all this. It's appalling. On another note, did anyone notice McCain staring at Palin's boobs when she was nominated. Then he began twisting his wedding ring. Geeze.

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city boy Floyd
Posted by: walkfree555 on Sep 18, 2008 11:29 AM   
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I understand that this fine, accurate article had to be written. However, with Sarah, we must first deal with her complete “resume” and the facts. This very powerful nation absolutely must have the “best and brightest” in top decision making positions. During her very first national speech, she deceptively spoke of an airplane she “put on eBay”, with a smile from ear to ear. With this same deceit, she told of turning down the “bridge to nowhere”. Did she even realize she was in the national spotlight? That every word would be intensely investigated? She just must have known that her statements were not reality, not truth. In her interview with Charles Gibson, she honestly believed that physically seeing Russian land from some certain place in Alaska, qualified as knowledge of Russia and our foreign policies involved. Her rational mind is disconnected from what she states. She also said that we must “keep an eye on Russia”. Have not untold thousands of military people, diplomats, investigators, etc., spent their entire careers since the 1940’s, dealing with Russia. This appears to be news to her.

It is obvious that she was a failure as the demanding, abrasive and shallow Mayor of Wasilla, Ak, leaving the town millions in debt with very little to show. As Gov., from what we may read, both her and husband are guilty of corruption in the “troopergate” sadness. With the little information we possess, she appears to be well on her way to being an embarrassment and failure as a mother. She has placed herself, her ego, career, status, fame and future ahead of her family.

Her “college” years must have been very formative for her and deserve to be researched carefully by the media. She appears to have attended four different schools, (U of Idaho, twice), in about 5 years. Just the expense of the long distance travel and moving involved is well beyond what a student should be able to afford or even consider. I do not believe she qualifies to be Governor or chosen for VP. McCain should not have qualified to be a Senator, let alone President, due to ignoring his service oath and handing valuable knowledge to the NVA, in trade for medical care.

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Brenda(brennie)kay Winters
Posted by: brennie on Sep 19, 2008 8:03 AM   
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Women have the right to change their minds. Frankly, not knowing any of the leaders personally, it has become difficult to complain about them. Pray for the best leaders for This Country. Why? It is no better than it's people and certainly no better than the leaders who represent them.

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pot, meet kettle
Posted by: sweet_byrd on Sep 24, 2008 4:35 PM   
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"A recent piece by Gail Collins in the New York Times is a case in point. She begins by referencing the "moose-gutting, polar bear-trashing, aerobics-class-networking vice presidential nominee" and then moves in to the real content of the piece. It's a rhetorical flourish, but repeated often enough, these epithets begin to stick."

You mean like your characterization of Palin at the beginning of this piece as "the baby-making, gun-toting, wolf-killing beauty queen of the Christian Right"?

This is an interesting piece, and the author makes some good points, but "pointing out" does have some merits after all. By bringing attention to specific examples, it keeps the problem in the public attention (undermining the "sexism isn't a problem any more" argument), and helps those who want to raise the quality of the discourse (like the author), understand where and when they have (inadvertently?) contributed to the problem so that they can avoid doing so in the future.

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