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Reproductive Justice and Gender

McSexist: McCain's War on Women

By Kate Sheppard, In These Times. Posted July 24, 2008.


McCain is ignorant about pay equity, wants to overturn Roe v. Wade and likes to brag about his "sexual conquests" and visits to a strip club.
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Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) campaign and the media would have us believe that herds of disaffected women voters will be stampeding to the Republicans this year because a woman candidate won't be on the presidential ballot in November.

McCain's campaign has been making a clear play for women voters in recent weeks, hosting conference calls with Republican women and touting that his policies on national security, the economy and healthcare appeal to women voters.

But the suggestion that women -- and feminist women, at that -- will be lining up behind him is a fairytale. At least, it should be. McCain's record and policies on issues of importance to women are neither moderate nor maverick.

In The Nation, Katha Pollitt put it simply: "[T]o vote for McCain, a feminist would have to be insane."

But the chatter about the voting decisions of former presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) supporters continues. Much of the recent talk has focused on PUMAs (the acronym stands for "Party Unity My Ass"), a group supposedly so angry about the Democratic primary that they won't vote for Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.). But as blogger Amanda Marcotte reported, PUMA PAC was started by a McCain donor, according to the Federal Election Commission.

That doesn't mean there aren't angry Clinton voters. But the number of progressive or even moderate voters who would seriously consider voting for McCain is much smaller than the media would have you believe. Unfortunately, McCain's propaganda seems to be working, at least on those who aren't aware of his record on issues of concern to women voters.

A February Planned Parenthood poll of 1,205 women voters in 16 battleground states found that 50 percent of women voters don't know McCain's position on abortion, and that 49 percent of women who backed McCain were pro-choice. Forty-six percent of women supporting McCain said they'd like to see Roe v. Wade upheld -- though McCain says he supports overturning the decision. When they learned of his position on Roe, 36 percent of women who identified as both pro-choice and likely McCain voters said they would be less likely to vote for him.

These moderate, often suburban, middle-class women could be critical swing voters this election. At the time of the Planned Parenthood poll, Obama held only a 5 percentage-point margin over McCain with its swing-state demographic, 41 percent to 36 percent.

Planned Parenthood concludes that these findings suggest "that just filling in McCain's actual voting record and his publicly stated positions on a handful of key issues has the potential to diminish his total vote share among battleground women voters by about 17 to 20 percentage points."

"The only reason [McCain is] saying he's going after Clinton voters is because if he doesn't win their votes, he's not going to win this election," says Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood. "Even though I think it's a real wash-up for him, he's got to find some more voters somewhere. That's the political math here."

On the record

One reason many pro-choice women are confused about McCain is because he has flip-flopped on the abortion issue.

In 1999, McCain said he backed Roe: "Certainly, in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations."

But on NBC's "Meet the Press" in May 2007, responding to a question about his statements in 1999, McCain said: "Well, it was in the context of conversation about having to change the culture of America as regards to this issue. I have stated time after time after time that Roe v. Wade was a bad decision."

NARAL Pro-Choice America President Nancy Keenan says his shifting rhetoric is an attempt to "game" the electorate and confuse voters about his actual stances. "[The McCain campaign] knows full well that women in America, especially independent and pro-choice women, will not support a candidate who wants to overturn Roe v. Wade," Keenan says. "So they're still trying to make the case that he's a moderate and a maverick, when his record proves that he is neither."

The record also shows that McCain has rarely strayed outside Republican Party line on the issue of choice. He has consistently voted against measures to provide access to contraception and sex-education, and voted to approve anti-choice judges.

Planned Parenthood and NARAL have each given him a zero for his record on women's health issues. (The record dates back to his days in the House of Representatives, between 1983 and 1986, and carries through to his career in the U.S. Senate, which began in 1987.) Of the 130 congressional votes related to reproductive freedom that McCain has cast, 125 have been anti-choice, according to NARAL.

It's a record McCain says he's proud of -- when he's not trying to appeal to women outside his Republican base.

"I have many, many votes and it's been consistent," McCain told The National Review, a conservative magazine, last year. "And I've got a consistent zero from NARAL throughout all those years. ... My record is clear." He has also bragged to the media that his record has "been pro-life, unchanging and unwavering."

On the campaign trail this year, he has been adamant, telling MSNBC's Chris Matthews in April that "the rights of the unborn is one of my most important values."

And McCain has pledged that if elected president, he will appoint Supreme Court justices who would overturn Roe. In February, he said he "will try to find clones of [Justice Samuel] Alito and [Chief Justice John] Roberts" -- two conservative Bush administration appointees -- to fill high court vacancies.

He has worked his pro-life ideology into other aspects of federal decisions. Perhaps the most preposterous example is his voting in favor of legislation to amend the definition of those eligible for the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to include the unborn -- while voting against legislation to expand SCHIP's coverage to low-income children and pregnant women at least six times.

In 2003, he voted for a ban on so-called "partial-birth abortions." And in 2004, he supported the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, which makes it a criminal offense to harm or kill a fetus while committing a violent crime -- essentially deeming the fetus a person in the eyes of the law.

In July 2006, McCain voted for legislation that would fine and/or imprison physicians who perform abortions on out-of-state minors if there are parental notification requirements in their home state. In October 2007, he voted for legislation that would cut Health and Human Services grants to organizations that perform abortions.

McCain is no better when it comes to the issues of providing access to contraception, family planning information and basic women's healthcare. He has voted to require parental consent for teenagers who want access to contraceptives, and against an amendment to the Senate's 2006 budget that would have allocated $100 million for the prevention of teen pregnancy by providing education and contraceptives.

He opposed legislation requiring that abstinence-only programs be medically accurate and based in science. He voted to abolish funding for birth control and gynecological care for low-income women, and against funding for public education on emergency contraception.

He also voted against a measure that would require insurance companies to cover prescription contraception, despite the fact that many currently fund male reproductive pharmaceuticals, such as Viagra.

And he supports President Bush's restoration of the "global gag rule" -- which cuts off federal funding for nongovernmental organizations that provide abortion services and information -- and he opposes funding international family planning, in general. Yet he doesn't seem particularly well-informed on the subject.

In March 2007, the New York Times' Adam Nagourney asked McCain whether grants for sex education in the United States include instructions about using contraceptives, or if they should abide by Bush's abstinence-only policy.

After a pause, McCain responded, "Ahhh. I think I support the president's policy."

Nagourney followed up: "So no contraception, no counseling on contraception? Just abstinence. Do you think contraceptives help stop the spread of HIV?"

After another pause, McCain replied, "You've stumped me."

McCain is confused about his stance on the issue of choice overall, according to other accounts. In the 2000 primary, he was asked what he would do if his daughter Meghan, then 15, became pregnant. McCain said it would be a "family decision."

"The final decision would be made by Meghan with our advice and counsel," McCain said, referring to himself and his wife, Cindy. When reporters suggested that this view made him, in fact, pro-choice, McCain became irritated. "I don't think it is the pro-choice position to say that my daughter and my wife and I will discuss something that is a family matter that we have to decide."

McCain's record on women "undermines any thought that he is a moderate or that he is someone more independent," says Planned Parenthood's Richards. "Unlike George [W.] Bush, who really had no voting record on anything, Sen. McCain has a record he has to stand by, and it's a very consistent one."

But others, including Jennifer Stockman, co-chair of Republican Majority for Choice, an organization that works to elect pro-choice Republicans, says she believes McCain would be better than Bush in the White House.

"There's more hope with McCain," Stockman says, "because of his genuine interest in being more common-sense centered and to reach out to independents and to the majority of the Republican Party [who] are people like us rather than pander to the social conservatives."

But Stockman says her group isn't going to endorse McCain, and she herself still isn't sure whether she's going to vote for anyone this year. Like many, she says she doesn't really understand where McCain's is coming from, since he's not outwardly religious, nor has he displayed a desire to pander to social conservatives on other issues.

"I don't understand, knowing him, why he's been so anti-choice," says Stockman. "His voting record doesn't really make sense to me, honestly."

But she adds that chances are, as in previous years, social conservatives will commandeer the GOP's platform and make sure anti-choice language is a centerpiece.

Education and training

McCain has an equally dismal record on other issues central to women's lives -- pay equity, fighting workplace discrimination, and supporting programs that help working mothers and their families.

In April, he skipped the vote on the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Had it passed the Senate, this bill would have restored the interpretation of the protections for pay equity in the Civil Rights Act that was overturned in a 5-4 Supreme Court ruling.

Though he didn't vote, he spoke against the bill on the campaign trail, saying in New Orleans: "They need the education and training, particularly since more and more women are heads of their households, as much or more than anybody else. And it's hard for them to leave their families when they don't have somebody to take care of them."

In addition to suggesting women need to be taken care of, the statement shows a total lack of understanding of the case.Lilly Ledbetter had worked for nearly 20 years at a Goodyear Tires plant in Gadsden, Ala., before she discovered that she was being paid less than her male counterparts -- despite having received awards for her performance. She brought an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission complaint against the company to rectify the situation, but the court ruled that employees have only 180 days from when payroll decisions are made to file a wage-discrimination complaint.

McCain's allegation that Ledbetter's problem was in her preparation for the job is, at best, misinformed. At worst, it expresses ignorance of the reality of discriminatory practices against women in the workplace.

"It's not because of training and education; it's because of discrimination," says NOW Executive Vice President Olga Vives. "And he doesn't seem to get that."

The candidate, however, has said repeatedly that he's in favor of pay equity -- though there is little in his record or his platform to suggest he supports it.

"Regarding women's rights, this guy really doesn't see it," Vives says. "There's no indication in his record before then or now that he's going to be supporting the issues that are very important to women, including economic issues and health."

On civil rights issues, his record, again, is poor. He has voted in favor of banning affirmative action hiring for jobs funded by the federal government, and says he's against policies that might result in "quotas" -- an oft-repeated conservative excuse for not supporting policies that rectify systemic inequities. In the first session of 109th Congress, he voted with the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People's positions only 7 percent of the time.

On the economic front, McCain's platform suggests he'd perpetuate many of the Bush-era policies that have done little for low- and middle-income women and families. Although he initially opposed the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, McCain has now flipped.

In 1993, before voting in favor of the Family and Medical Leave Act -- which, among other things, allows pregnant women to take unpaid maternity leave if it's not automatically offered in the workplace -- McCain sought to weaken the measure. He proposed allowing the government to suspend the law if it found that the act would increase the cost to business.

His record on broader health issues for women and families isn't any better. McCain voted at least six times to reduce, eliminate or restrict health insurance programs for low-income children and pregnant women. In August 2007, he again voted against a bill to expand coverage of SCHIP.

In 2000, he voted against providing tax credits to small businesses that offer health insurance to their employees -- the same year he voted against a $3,000 tax credit to help seniors and their families cover long-term care.

In 1995 and 1999, he voted against measures that provided additional funding for home and community-based healthcare providers. And he has voted seven times for measures that cut or restricted funding for Medicaid, and 18 times for measures that cut or restricted Medicare.

"It's a typical conservative approach," Vives says. "As we know, that doesn't bode well for the common ordinary person, more than half of whom are women. It's the same old story of trickle-down economics."

The personal is political

Then there's what we know about McCain's personal interactions with women. In his book The Real McCain, Cliff Schecter describes one stop during his 1992 Senate reelection bid. He writes, "At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, 'You're getting a little thin up there.' McCain's face reddened, and he responded, 'At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.' " (Schecter confirmed this remark with three reporters who were present when it was made.)

And at a 1998 Republican Senate fundraiser, McCain proffered this "joke": "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?" Answer: "Because her father is Janet Reno."

Then, there is McCain's response to a questioner in Hilton Head, S.C., last November, who asked, referring to Sen. Clinton: "How do we beat the bitch?" McCain responded: "Excellent question."

During this election campaign, McCain has taken to talking up the sexual conquests of his youth, perhaps to appeal himself to younger voters. In March, he told a crowd in Meridian, Miss.: "I remember with affection the unruly passions of youth." He then regaled them with a story of his exploits organizing an off-base toga party for his military pals and local girls.

In another campaign stop in Pensacola, Fla., McCain recalled his days as a Florida-based fighter pilot -- dating an exotic dancer known as the "Flame of Florida" and "blowing my pay at Trader Jon's," a local strip club. Abstinence-only must not apply for the boys.

Not an easy fix

As Republican Majority for Choice's Stockman notes, if more women get wind of his record on women's issues, he'll have a problem.

"McCain's going to have to come up with reasoning about his voting record and what he really believes without flip-flopping," says Stockman. "It's very challenging for him. I don't know how he's going to handle it."

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Kate Sheppard is the political reporter for the online environmental magazine, Grist.org. She has also written for The American Prospect, Bitch, The Guardian and MSN.

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Pro-women male
Posted by: When In Doubt on Jul 24, 2008 4:25 AM   
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This man should not be in the Senate.
He certainly should not be elected president.
You will not get this information in the MSM or on industry owned TV.
Everybody,{but the wealthy} has been short changed throughout this administration, the most venal, mendacious in our history.

elect at your risk.

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Meow
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jul 24, 2008 4:37 AM   
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Most of the article was good, allowing McCain's record to speak for itself, except the part towards the end...

His jokes and drinking stories may be crude, immature, and piggish, but are not really necessary to mention. They take away from the seriousness of the article, and continue the Fox approach of gossiping, nit-picking people's comments, and meddling in their personal lives.

Obama's a bad boy, not because he's been cowering to the right ("I don't do cowering..."), but because he apparently called one of his assistants "honey"...or whatever...

How many of us goody-goody progressives did some partying during our youth, made crude remarks about people of the opposite sex when out with the boys/girls, or called someone a cunt/dick in the heat of road rage?...That's what I thought...

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Thanks... I needed that
Posted by: www.suekatz.com on Jul 24, 2008 5:14 AM   
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It is important that this article get wide circulation. I've been hoping some journalist would compile his record: thanks Kate Sheppard. Just yesterday a friend told me about meeting with an otherwise sane, progressive acquaintance who said that to punish the Democratic Party for not picking Clinton she would be voting for McCain. That would be a strange reaction to perceived sexism, indeed.

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McScrewup
Posted by: beautifulady2003 on Jul 24, 2008 5:26 AM   
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My impression of John McCain overall is that he has no real and genuine position or opinion on any issue whatsoever, other than the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He looks for cues as to what to say from the people around him, or from George Bush, and he will say whatever the cues tell him. This explains the flip-flopping and also when he was asked the question about whether he supports education on contraception (he replied, "you've stumped me" because he didn't know what answer his audience expected from him). Really, McCain is a clueless puppet, similar to Dubya but not as evil. I think being president would utterly confuse John McCain, and we need another confused idiot president like we need a hole in the head.

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The pattern is
Posted by: ArtemInox on Jul 24, 2008 5:35 AM   
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now obvious to me. Once a week, we are treated to some insane, but more often irrelevant fluff, article that supposedly deals with women's issues or feminism. His WAR on women? You've got to be fucking kidding me. McSexist. BWAHAHAHA

This article could be titled: "My Cheap Sensationalist Titles and Innuendo: How you can further waste your time and thought process on political figures and the significance you give them"

"In The Nation, Katha Pollitt put it simply: "[T]o vote for McCain, a feminist would have to be insane."

Rather than immediately following this up with WHY that would be the case, we get some jibberish about PUMA and a reference to some blogger. PUMA sounds like some real people with real focus, don't they? And a blogger?Wow, man, like, a blogger. Gasp.

So. Logically, it makes good sense to only focus on this guys history of back pedaling and his changing public statements in regards to womens issues and abortion. What else could possibly be relevant about a presidential candidate?

Because a politician, a presidential candidate, wouldn't ever be so full of shit as to say what he thinks makes sense at the time, no, nothing like that at all. He wouldn't count on an ignorant, misinformed voting populace, buying and eating the never ending flood of pure bullshit coming from all forms of media in reference to candidates, never.

And the last bit of the article, everything under "The personal is political". Who gives a fuck, really? The guy is clearly just another politician piece of shit, what he says about this and that in his personal life doesn't really illuminate this any further.

This article points out some important facts about this character. I dont like the fucker at all. The problem I have is with all the fluff and cheap attention getting headline, and the weak attempts to put it all in perspective. If what you have to say has some merit and is true, then it doesn't need bs like that to prop it up.

I don't understand why people find it neccesary to keep on listening, reading and talking about these guys. Why do you give them your attention and focus, what does it produce? Are you still under the delusion that the vote you cast has some power to it? How about..... regardless of who gets in, no real change is going to come about? The ruling class is not going to suddenly give a fuck if you live or die, suffer or prosper, and is not going to stop doing everything it can to make sure you have less and they have more.

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The Keywords
Posted by: BlammDaddy on Jul 24, 2008 5:36 AM   
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" as the media would have you believe"

The bible thumping,drunk, lying, Nazi bastards are going to steal the election. AGAIN !
8 years of McBush....... The end of Amerikka_stan.
I'm glad I don't live there anymore......
It was a great place to live until those stupid rednecks voted themselves right into Hell.

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A republican is a sexist pig,
Posted by: bitsfick on Jul 24, 2008 6:18 AM   
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who knew?

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McCain is consistent
Posted by: waynep on Jul 24, 2008 6:18 AM   
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To be surprised by McCain's apparent contradiction between his positions and his behavior is to totally ignore the history of this man. Of course his anti-choice voting record and beliefs would not be a factor if his daughter had needed an abortion. Just as the wealthy and connected did prior to Roe vs. Wade, it would be facilitated. Different rules for different folks. Please keep in mind that, very much like Bush, this is a man born into a very privileged family situation. He was a low achieving high school student who none-the-less received a West Point appointment over thousands of much higher qualified applicants. Can anyone deny that this was because of his father? He was an extremely poor achieving student at West Point, and was awarded with the highly sought after fighter pilot position, again jumping ahead of hundreds of seemingly much higher qualified candidates. His daddy was an admiral, remember. Yet, he has been very consistent in his opposition to affirmative action stating that he thinks we should all have a level playing field!
A promiscuous man who votes consistently for abstinence only programs and who stands adamantly in opposition to programs offering women contraception, etc.? What contradiction? We are NOT talking McCain women, are we? That would be a different story.
Those who are born into great privilege seem to take one of two life tracks. There are those who feel a tremendous pressure to demonstrate to the world that they can earn their status by working long and hard to carry their own weight. There are those who's attitude is that of course they are privileged as they are better than the rest of the common class, and or not bound by the same rules and laws as the rest of us. They do not see a contradiction between positions that they support and their personal behavior. George W Bush is the prototype of this attitude, and the parallels in McCain's life and attitude are downright eerie. If you liked Bush, you are going to love McCain.

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no way Jose
Posted by: zooeyhall on Jul 24, 2008 6:35 AM   
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There is NO WAY this turkey is going to get elected in November.

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Can we please get past the "abortion" issue and focus on another important issue on gender?
Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 24, 2008 7:08 AM   
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How about this one? One of my neighbors had this going on. The man gets laid off and while his wife works, he is diagnosed with a serious health problem related to the stress he accumulated on the job he just got laid off on. So for a few months he chooses to be the housewife while his wife continues her career. Five months later as his health improves he gets another job. However, people joke and tease about his past 5 months of he and his wife having reversal roles. Isn't it sad that there are some dresses and roles that are supposed to belong to the women but if men try them out, they face hell from humiliation on being the housewife for a change to criminal charges of dressing like a woman in some cases. Let's face it. Men and women each have their freedoms and lack ofs depending on the issue. Don't let the elites divide you. The "conservatives" have no intention of giving men any more freedom than the "liberals" supposedly giving women some. Both parties are selling you out !

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LOL
Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Jul 24, 2008 7:12 AM   
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LMAO who cares what "McSame" does? Its not like anyone with an ounce of common sense is taking "McBush" seriously anyways.

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I didn't think it was possible,
Posted by: MamaPantz on Jul 24, 2008 7:22 AM   
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but we may have found someone more stupid than Bush! Seriously, Bush looks like a genius next to this joke.

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Stupid Electorate!!!
Posted by: fsuthai on Jul 24, 2008 7:38 AM   
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It's hard to believe that such a jerk, in every way, could be elected to high public office; much less be even remotely considered as qualified to become POTUS (Pres. of the U.S.A.)!
This pampered, bad-tempered, turn-coat prisoner is now just a near-senile old buffoon and would be just about the ultimate international shame of American politics if the Repugnicans somehow steal another presidency! Just shows what a low species of humanity the conservative, wealthy, greedy, power-hunger 'elite' in America really are! My country has gone crazy and I'm glad I left it shortly after the 2000 election fiasco. I've watched in horror and disbelief as conditions in America have deteriorated even worse than I expected over the past eight years.
I hope for...but don't really believe...Obama's hints at changes for the USA but his voting record is infinitely better than that of Macsexist!
Good luck, America!

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This asshole would have u pay for birth control pills
Posted by: cyr3n on Jul 24, 2008 7:47 AM   
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his voting record shows..

he wants viagra supported by hmos but birth control taken off.

he wants to overturn Roe v Wade

he's completely out of touch with women!!

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Why should I...
Posted by: theVRWCwhodatesLiberals on Jul 24, 2008 7:48 AM   
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...Pay for women promiscuity? I'm not asking the government to give me a voucher for GNC protein supplements. This equal pay thing: I had to tell my ex-girlfriend this "you need to open your mouth and demand what you are worth" however Liberals will just expect there employer to be "fair" If someone was willing to do a job for $9 buck an hour however I would of payed them $11, I just saved $2 bucks, great for me (wait I forgot its not a goal to turn a profit). Either way, life in the free market system is about negotiating.

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John McLame is just that: LAME
Posted by: helenwheels on Jul 24, 2008 8:22 AM   
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His atrocious behavior to women is aptly represented in his voting record.

Arianna Huffington did an article about it as well.

Lump in his assault on womens' reproductive rights with all of the scandals that the corporate-controlled "mainstream" media unfortunately does not report (yet), and it adds up to one sorry excuse for a man, let alone a president.

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words spoken in anger
Posted by: greenman on Jul 24, 2008 8:39 AM   
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True, everyone has had their road rage moments, but going nuclear when your wife gently teases you is very troubling. A relationship built on mutual respect does not include such crude and demeaning remarks, and there's no way to trivialize it. I for one do not want a President with a hair trigger temper. And that's one of the long list of reasons i won't be voting for Mr. McCain.

Greenman

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equality is not equal
Posted by: chiefwanadubie on Jul 24, 2008 8:48 AM   
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Roe vs wade, has taken more innocent lives than every American war put together!!! Yet Feminists, claim it to be their God given right!!! Roe vs wade, has taken away MENS right of consent!!! The "FATHER" doesnt have a choice, if his unborn child is discarded or not, or born or not, or adopted, or not!!! Do you "NOT-SEE"??? Planned parenthood, is actually planned genocide, they do not fight to keep families together, but only to tear them apart!!! Pro-choice, is not fighting for freedom of choice in all things, like abolishing "zero" tolerance, for drugs, where is my pro-choice, to smoke a dubie??? Choice, for some, but no choice for others, is not equality!!! If the fathers have no choice, they should have no responsibility!!! Roe vs wade has all but destroyed the family unit, but just give it time, and families will be illegal, in a "BRAVE NEW WORLD"!!! WHY IS IT THAT ROE VS WADE ONLY GIVES WOMEN OWNERSHIP OF THEIR BODIES, AND IT'S CONTENTS, but men don't have the right to own their bodies, or it's contents, i.e. urine, sperm, blood, D.N.A....there nothing equal, in what the feminists call equal, except that they have become the same as male chauvinists, equally hateful and one-sided!!! McCain, is not the problem here, lobbyist are!!! Neither have my vote, because neither represent me or mine!!!

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Worse than Bush: War-mongering womanizer McCain's ties to fascist organizations
Posted by: HughScott on Jul 24, 2008 9:16 AM   
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.
WARNING to freedom-loving Americans:

Herr McCain is a member (signatory) of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC), a rightwing extremist (fascist) organization formed in 1997 with the intent of overthrowing Saddam Hussein and dominating the world with U.S. military power.

Prior to joining the PNAC conspiracy, McCain was president of the New Citizenship Project (NCP). Founded in 1994 by PNAC organizer William Kristol, NCP was parent to PNAC and served as its chief fundraising arm.

In 1998, McCain co-sponsored the Iraq Liberation Act. Drafted by PNAC, it decreed "regime change" in Iraq to be U.S. policy. To that end, the act appropriated $97 million in U.S. military aid for the Iraqi National Congress (INC).

INC was a group of anti-Hussein Iraqi militants whose purpose was to instigate a national uprising in Iraq. INC was led by Ahmed Chalabi, the Iraqi informant nicknamed “Curve Ball” whose faulty intelligence claimed that Saddam had WMDs and ties to al-Qaida. Chalabi's "intel" was used by Bush to sell the Iraq invasion to Congress.

Finally, McCain was co-chair with Sen. Joe Lieberman of the White House-based Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI). Established by PNAC in 2002, CLI continued to finance Chalabi's INC with millions of taxpayer dollars until shortly after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, when CLI was disbanded.

Given John McCain's firm allegiance to the core missions of PNAC, it should come as no surprise that many of the old PNAC guard have shown up as foreign policy advisers in the senator's 2008 presidential campaign, such as the following prominent neocons:

Richard L. Armitage: PNAC signatory, former Bush 43 Deputy Secretary of State. By his own admission, Armitage was responsible for leaking CIA agent Valerie Plame's CIA identity to the press.

John R. Bolton: PNAC signatory, former U.S. ambassador to U.N. (Nomination to U.N. rejected by Senate, but George W. Bush put him in place on a recess appointment. Name floated for possible Secretary of State for McCain. Advocates attacking Iran.

Max Boot: PNAC signatory, columnist, McCain speech writer. Advocated attacking other Middle East countries in addition to Iraq and Iran, including Syria. Said McCain's "bellicose aura" could "scare the snot out of our enemies," who "would be more afraid to mess with him" than with other then-potential presidential candidates.

Steve Forbes: PNAC founder, flat-tax fanatic

Robert Kagan: PNAC founder.

William Kristol: PNAC founder and editor of the rightwing magazine, Weekly Standard. Has consistently been wrong in his foreign policy analyses regarding Iraq. For example, on March 5, 2003, Kristol said, "I think we'll be vindicated when we discover the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."

Daniel McKivergan: PNAC deputy director

Randy Scheunemann: PNAC signatory, co-director and executive director of Committee for Liberation of Iraq.

Gary Schmitt: PNAC signatory, Research Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. Defended warrantless eavesdropping on Americans by claiming that Constitution "created a unitary chief executive who could, in times of war or emergency, act with the decisiveness, dispatch and, yes, secrecy, needed to protect the country and its citizens."

James Woolsey: PNAC signatory, Director of the CIA, 1993-1995.

Robert B. Zollick: PNAC signatory, President, World Bank.

For a list of all 225 PNAC signatories, visit the nonprofit investigative website, www.FreedomCentralUSA.com.

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This country get's what it deserves
Posted by: pauldd on Jul 24, 2008 10:07 AM   
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What's frightening to me about this article is NOT what it says about Mr. McCain's positions on women's rights but what it says about the electorate.

If 49% of "moderate, often suburban, middle-class women" who support McCain are pro-choice but still vote for him then we get exactly what we deserve.

You cannot blame McCain for his confusing rhetoric nor the media for its failure to expose him. The blame lies squarely with those who are too lazy, careless or plain reckless to take the ten minutes required to determine John McCain's positions on the issues that matter to them.

Shame on you if that's all the effort you can put into deciding which candidate to back.

In a representative democracy, we get exactly what we deserve in our government.

Good luck USA!

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ba
Posted by: mnstra on Jul 24, 2008 10:13 AM   
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At least Mc Cain was up front from the beginning.
We knew where we stood. He will further bury the country under more debt an killing of the middle class. That has been the Rep. agenda for decades. Now Obama utters words like "we cant let Iran have nuclear wepons'".......as if Bush put them right from one lying patriarchal mouth into another.I am getting to despise Obama even more that the his opponent, because he is such a wimp
putting on an air of bravado. He is a big empty phony!!!!!!!

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» RE: ba Posted by: mtatasmith
Angry little man
Posted by: mtatasmith on Jul 24, 2008 10:47 AM   
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with thinning folicles - can't get his way so he pulls out the bully card - he is painful. Makes one wonder how many abortions he has paid for.

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Grassroots Movement
Posted by: WorkForProgress on Jul 24, 2008 11:23 AM   
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This is why, as progressives, we can't afford to sit back and watch while the country is taken in the wrong direction. We have to get out and organize in the grassroots and make sure all voters, especially in swing states, get out and vote to take our country in a new direction. If you're like me, and want to get involved, go to www.workforprogress.com and apply to lead a campaign office this election year!

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AlterNet Hypocrites
Posted by: DesertStone on Jul 24, 2008 11:24 AM   
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Why do you so called progressives question that this man is a sexist or a racist? You publish racist articles on this site then have the gall to question the character of others only to further a political agenda. What about the racism of your writers such as Gary Brecher and his slanderous and hate filled article ‘The Taliban Strikes Back’? You should clean your own house before you point so many fingers, crying racism.

If this site and its publishers had a sense of decency or professionalism they would at least remove racist articles from the front page before posting new ones about the racist or sexist character of others. Maybe even be decent enough to offer an apology or some explanation why it was deemed appropriate to publish hate filled articles. I have seen to much hypocrisy on this site and am disgusted enough that I do not intend to ever return to read another racist and repulsive article or a piece questioning the character of others written by ignorant racists. One has to question the reliability of anything published by sponsors editors and writers of such an entity.

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Hank Silver
Posted by: Hankbrilliant on Jul 24, 2008 12:13 PM   
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John McCain's response to his wife, Cindy, when she playfully touched his hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there," tells the whole story about him and his small brain. "At least I'm not plastering my face with makeup like a trollop, you c----." How can a legitimate man speak to his wife like that? Her family's wealth is enabling him to run for the presidency. His comment was reported by news reporters who heard him say those unconscionable words. He's very obviously dumber than s---!

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Trash mouth McCain
Posted by: bobtr900 on Jul 24, 2008 12:33 PM   
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I wouldn't hire this trash mouth guy in my businesses, if I had one nor would I want him to work around female employees, or my female relatives.

And this jerk belongs to the party of god(small g) the 'moral majority'.

And once again McCain proves my point, our point that they are not about Pro-life and Family Values. That pile of crap is nothing more than republican party spin and rhetoric and endless bullshit.

No wonder our troops and the Iraqi people are bring served up as cannon fodder for the profit motives of the Republican mindset.

I seeth with anger when I read this kind of thing about them all, including their hypocritic right wing religions, including my own, the Catholic Church. Their is nothing religious about any of them, right up to the top.

This entire mess is about profits for the Rethugs and about Dominion and Domination for their right wing religions. Pro-life be damned, the family be damned, living wages be damned they are all about riches and more riches for their elite, the wealthy elite and the religious elite.

As Glenn Greenwald, over at Salon.com says, they 'have a two tiered legal system'. There is one for the wealthy and powerful and one for everyman. Poerful politicians, corporate heads, the wealthy, pedophile priests and whoring and gay ministers are treated one way while the rest of us are subject to an entirely different legal system.

Does anyone actually believe that if the Bush girls have an Ectopic pregnancy they are just going to let them die, as the Pope insists. Hell no, they will just fly off to some other country and get their abortion, medically necessary or otherwise.

One of these days, like a giant rubberband, their hypocrisy is going to snap back and hit them right in the face of their rampant hypocrisy.

I've said it before and it deserves repetition, I'll take a reasonable atheist any day over these religious hypocrites. I have known many atheists and they have all been normal reasonable and totally human. While these religious thugs are nothing more than snakes in the tall grass, and totally difficult to see or comprehend. And 'morally relativistic' religious abound in our society and especially in the Repub party and their right wing religions.

I have never in my life treated a woman the way that McCain and his Repub cronies do. Women were never second class people or citizens to me but to my religion they have been so for the past 2000 years.

I hope some court of law drop kicks the entire Bush family from here to their compound in Paraguay, and may they live their in scummy lives in total obscurity, deprived of the recognition they endlessly seek and need to feed their weak, pusillanimous and valueless characters. Morally bereft people that they are.

Remind me to give myself a V8 smack in the head every time I start to believe one of these useless morons who seems to run rampant throughout the Republican party, who are always chasing mammon, and nothing else.

Ahhh, Rampal is on the stereo. Maybe that will help my mood. The cheeriness of the flutes is always whimsical and inspiring. Ooops, it was Salieri, for flute and oboe. Whats not to like about the flute, everything from Galway to the incomparable Paul Horn, Yusef Lateef and Hubie Laws.

It must be flute music day, now they are playing Peer Gynt. I love Grieg and Ibsen; Finlandia, In The Hall of The Mountain King etc.

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Not our sort, dear
Posted by: Ellen Remore on Jul 24, 2008 1:01 PM   
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Jeez, what a classy guy, calling his wife a cunt. It doesn't surprise me, however, since I once did some time as a Naval officer's wife, during which time, I never met a single career officer, including non-coms, who was not a screaming nutjob. (Think of the guy who rode the bomb to earth in "Dr. Strangelove.) Johnny Boy is 3rd generation, I believe, so apparently sleaze has a way of sneaking into some people's DNA.

A propos the C-word, I really don't understand why nobody in the media, even the liberal media, has had the spine to actually utter the "C" word--i.e, "Crazy," and put up in neon lights somewhere in letters six feet high. You think nobody could be worse than Bush? Think again.

But I submit that you have to hand it to the GOP as the most manipulative gang of lying scoundrels in all our lifetimes. In particular, its tenacious recruiting of those with diagostically mental anomalies--first they gave us a complete idiot in the Oval Office, and now they're doing a remake, this time with a goddamn lunatic. The better to line their pockets with your taxes and mine.

Whenever I happen to be talking politics, I give whomever I'm conversing with my best advice: keep your passport current.

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WE'VE HAD ONE DRUNK FRAT RAT AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jul 24, 2008 1:16 PM   
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a drunk navy man out on leave. Would that we could make the leave permanent.

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IF EVERY WOMAN IN THE WHOLE UNITED STATES VOTED AGAINST
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jul 24, 2008 1:19 PM   
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McCain, I could stay home and Obama would still win.

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Viagra
Posted by: gellero1 on Jul 24, 2008 1:27 PM   
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Contrary to what this piece implies, medical insurance companies are not 'required' to pay for viagra, and in fact, most don't. And why should us males be required to pay for a girl's contraception.
If you want to play, pay yourself. That goes for viagra too.

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Oh, I get it
Posted by: Cathyblj on Jul 24, 2008 1:36 PM   
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If you're wealthy and powerful like McCain, you do get to have a choice about reproductive matters. If not, well tough shit, sluts - you're baby-making vessels whether you like it or not. We gotta make sure we have enough soldiers for our never-ending wars, and maintaining the status quo (adequate numbers of mothers in poverty) is the only way.

Surveys already showed that Clinton supporters were far more likely to support Obama than his supporters were to support Clinton, so McCain's only chance is to confuse voters. He does play the "confused old fart" act well.

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The election of John McCain
Posted by: realveive on Jul 24, 2008 2:33 PM   
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will guarantee that the 21st century will become known as America's Age of Mediocrity. Bush plus McCain equals 0 + 0 as far as progress goes. Actually, they are both negatives to progress.

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Strip Joints??
Posted by: gellero1 on Jul 24, 2008 4:40 PM   
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""I remember with affection the unruly passions of youth." He then regaled them with a story of his exploits organizing an off-base toga party for his military pals and local girls."

Something wrong with this??

Sounds like a totally normal red-blooded American male.

Is there really some problem with this ( aside from the fact that 'feminists' look down upon strippers as 'trailer trash' )

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Consider some of the posts above
Posted by: Ratskii on Jul 24, 2008 5:35 PM   
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I didn't see the usual number of conservative posters taking the Author to task for not supporting McCain. What I did see were lots of individuals saying, "Oh, it's no use, the Democrats and Obama are just as bad."

If I were a McCain supporting conservative, and I were posting on a progressive site, that would be the exact tack I would take. Make the opposition think that it is no use, that it is pointless to even go out and vote.

The author made a compelling case why those who support feminism should support Obama. I agree with her.

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What a REAL American war hero thinks of Songbird McCain
Posted by: HughScott on Jul 24, 2008 7:42 PM   
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There is no better judge of McCain’s behavior as a POW than the late Colonel David Hackworth, a much-decorated career Army officer who became a combat legend in Vietnam.

During his 25 years in the military, which spanned the Korean and Vietnam wars, “Hack” received 78 combat awards, including the Distinguished Service Cross, Silver Star, Bronze Star and eight Purple Hearts.

Before his death in 2005 from cancer, he wrote the following about McCain:

John McCain is being hailed by the press as a “genuine war hero.” But is he a war hero in the conventional sense like Audie Murphy and John Glenn? Or is his “war hero” status the creation of a very slick publicity campaign that plays on flag, duty, honor and country?

For sure, McCain has the “fruit salad”: Silver Star, Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service gongs.

On a purely medal-count basis, he outweighs Murphy and Glenn, who both for years repeatedly performed extraordinary deeds on the ground or in the air against an armed enemy.

Yet in McCain’s own words, just four days after being captured, he admitted violating the U.S. Code of Conduct by telling his captors “O.K. I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.”

A Vietnam vet detractor says, “He received the nation’s third highest award, the Silver Star, for treason. He provided aid and comfort to the enemy!”

The facts are that McCain signed a confession and declared himself a “black criminal who performed deeds of an air pirate.” This statement and other interviews he gave to the Communist press were used as propaganda to fan the flames of the antiwar movement.

Accounts by McCain and other writers tell of the horror he endured: relentlessly beatings, torture, broken limbs―all inflicted during savage interrogations. Yet no other POW was a witness to these accounts. A former POW says, “No man witnessed another man during interrogations. We relied on each other to tell the truth when a man was returned to his cell.”

The U.S. Navy says two eyewitnesses are required for any award of heroism. But for the valor awards McCain received, there are no eyewitnesses, less himself and his captors.

Our POWs in Vietnam were treated appallingly. The Viets would either break a POW or kill him. POWs provided info beyond name, rank and serial number or they didn’t come back.

Based on these stalwart men’s horrific experiences, the Code of Conduct has been changed. A POW says, “Now the training is to give them something… don’t risk permanent damage to health, mind or body.”

McCain refused an early release. An act of valor? Three former POWs told me he was ordered to turn it down by his U.S. POW commander and he “just followed orders.”

McCain certainly doesn't appear to be a war hero by conventional standards, but rather a tough survivor whose handlers are overplaying the war hero card.

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Another negative opinion of Songbird McCain -- by a fellow POW
Posted by: HughScott on Jul 24, 2008 8:02 PM   
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In an article published in June 2008 by Military.com, former POW Phillip Butler, a Navy pilot and Naval Academy graduate who spent over eight years in captivity, explained why he would not support John McCain for the presidency.

Here are some excerpts from Butler’s Internet posting:

Believe me when I say that back then I would never in a million years have dreamed that the crazy guy across the hall would someday be a Senator and candidate for President! John was a wild man. He was funny, with a quick wit and he was intelligent. But he was intent on breaking every regulation in our four-inch-thick USNA Regulations book. And I believe he must have come as close to his goal as any midshipman who ever attended the Academy.

I could tell many other midshipman stories about John that year and he unbelievably managed to graduate though he spent the majority of his first class year on restriction for the stuff he did get caught doing. In fact he barely managed to graduate, standing 5th from the bottom of his 800-man graduating class. I and many others have speculated that the main reason he did graduate was because his father was an Admiral, and also his grandfather, both U.S. Naval Academy graduates.

I furthermore believe that having been a POW is no special qualification for being President of the United States. The two jobs are not the same, and POW experience is not, in my opinion, something I would look for in a presidential candidate.

Most of us who survived that experience are now in our late 60’s and 70’s. Sadly, we have died and are dying off at a greater rate than our non-POW contemporaries. We experienced injuries and malnutrition that are coming home to roost. So I believe John’s age (72) and survival expectation are not good for being elected to serve as our President for four or more years.

I can verify that John has an infamous reputation for being a hot head. He has a quick and explosive temper that many have experienced firsthand. Folks, quite honestly that is not the finger I want next to that red button.

John is not a religious person, but he has taken every opportunity to ally himself with some really obnoxious and crazy fundamentalist ministers lately. I was also disappointed to see him cozy up to Bush because I know he hates that man. He disingenuously and famously put his arm around the guy, even after Bush had intensely disrespected him with lies and slander. So on these and many other instances, I don’t see that John is the “straight talk express” he markets himself to be.


Butler ended his article this way:

In short, I think John Sidney McCain III is a good man, but not someone I will vote for in the upcoming election to be our President of the United States.


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In sum, there are numerous Vietnam veterans, including fellow POWs, who think Senator McCain crossed the line during his NVA interrogations and cooperated more than he should have. Many others believe he betrayed the families of American servicemen missing in Southeast Asia by abruptly halting the 1992 Senate investigation and sealing their records. Assuming those perceptions are correct, they explain why McCain has flip-flopped this year on major issues, such as torture and Bush tax cuts.

Clearly the senator’s core values are conflicted. Either that or he is not being true to himself and the American people. Whatever the case, John McCain’s obvious lack of integrity disqualifies him from becoming our next commander-in-chief.

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I don't get it
Posted by: Cowardly_lion on Jul 24, 2008 8:19 PM   
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Why do we insist on publishing these articles that bash our politicians personal record? I understand, our system is corrupt, power hungry, disgusting, ludicrous, and basically doesn't work for us. But why do we attack the politicians personally? This seems to only be mudslinging and puts those who do support the politician on the defensive. The point NEVER gets through to them that the person is a bad choice for office. What we need to attack is NOT the person but the system. To say the McCain is McEvil, although clever, is forcing those who support him to become defensive. What we should say is McCain supports the very system that has turned it's back on us and forgotten the words of freedom justice and equality for all, here's why. The difference is slim, but it makes a world of difference for the arguments sake. A little respect goes along way.

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Mc Spayed Is Compensating for...
Posted by: ranchero42 on Jul 24, 2008 9:44 PM   
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Something, there! I said it again. That's right, I'm officially not an expert, but I've seen plenty of old men who've lost that twinkle in their eye. Like McSame, they've given up something they love. It's not just that he hates to campaign. It's not just that he is free of an agenda. He's not saving anything for October or any other month. He's got NOTHING and every body and every thing around him is suffering because HE IS POLITICALLY IMPOTENT. The pipe has swung it's last swing. He is only going to get meaner. Let's hope they keep him away from sharp objects and spicy food.

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I don't believe this guy
Posted by: Ratskii on Jul 24, 2008 10:04 PM   
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You consider your wife to be property, like a car or home? You claim abortion is murder but then say children should be sold to pay off debts. You think every fetus should be born, but don't want fathers to be responsible for supporting them. Why do I get the feeling you're an abuser?

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» So there! Posted by: Beck
» RE: So there! Posted by: chiefwanadubie
McCain, is only a symptom
Posted by: chiefwanadubie on Jul 24, 2008 10:20 PM   
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Did you know that George SR. was the director of the C.I.A. when J.F.K. was assassinated, and that his father Prescott Bush, supported Hitler, and the NAZI'S during WWII, America has been Bushwhacked!!! America hasn't had a choice for president, since J.F.K., the media, and the corporations, choose for us!!! Sure we have a choice between their choices, but they win either way, because they own all of the horses in the race!!! McCain, is just Bush's puppet, and if he gets behind in the pools, OBama will be eliminated, or elections them-self!!! We have given our nation to the beast of division and special privilege!!! Evil is like a pimple, it has to fester and come to a head, before it can pop and go away!!! And the government, has been festering since 1964--- "THERE SHE BLOWS"!!!

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» RE: McCain, is only a symptom Posted by: ranchero42
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» RE: McCain, is only a symptom Posted by: chiefwanadubie
Wow
Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Jul 25, 2008 5:07 AM   
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McBush is a MORON plain and simple.

JT
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A REAL " LADIES' MAN " INDEED ???? look out repug women!
Posted by: cherylsass123 on Jul 25, 2008 8:56 AM   
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" at least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." SHE DOES IT ALL FOR YOU , MC COATHANGER! [a wire coathanger being that handy little illegal abortion tool that so many women used before roe v wade!] I had to ask myself after reading this, what moderate, REPUG-NICAN- breeder yuppie " husband whore" woman in her right mind would vote for this SCHMUCK???

actually my sister, linda, is NOT one of the breeders. rather, she is a new york city high school teacher whom teaches mostly poor black and latino/latina kids and earns just $72,000 a year. but having gone repug some years back- she thinks this guy is " god's gift to america" and yes; she intends on voting for him!

this guys a jack of all asses and we liberals know this. truthfully, I can not see any sensible hillary woman voting for this! she'd choose OBAMA any day! [ or maybe nader or mc kinney???????]
another question I would've asked mc jackass-hole about his then 15 year old daughter is this. " if you're daughter got raped and had to give birth to the bastard's child? how would you feel, mr mc shithead? IS THAT A 'PRIVATE FAMILY MATTER' TOO???"
I already read the NARAL thing some time back , and so, knew what this " moderate-maverick" was all about. BUT.... so many still don't and hell, I could still see all those religiously-rendered into severe stupidity, barefoot in the winter and pregnant in the summer; female clerks at the "center hill , florida convienence store" voting for this guy! as long as [ gov.] Charlie Christ and their southern baptist minister tell them to vote for "johnny mc jerk-o-lantern"; they sho-ly wi-ill now! [ this unless they are black-whom I'd have to assume obama already won, even the preachers?? I HOPE!]

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Bravo for Equality is not or does not mean Equal
Posted by: zwoman15 on Jul 25, 2008 7:47 PM   
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I am certainly glad that someone is standing up against Planned Parenthood. Not that I am either for or against McCain. Since when does handing out birth-control pills to minors that don't want to keep their legs together and believe in promiscuity, correct? Also, there are pregnancy centers that give advice, and encourage women that there is a choice out there vs. abortion. I believe the only one that has a choice here is God. God is the one that either gives life or takes it away. The only time I might believe in abortion is to protect the life of a mother, otherwise it's a no-no. How many minors are currently out there that have had an abortion that are now wishing they didn't, or are in depression or having serious emotional issues? Planned Parenthood, definitely doesn't care if your child is having emotional problems. Like it or not, ABORTION IS INHUMAN! ABORTION IS MURDER!

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Hmmm...
Posted by: robbie.seal on Jul 26, 2008 10:25 AM   
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I'd bet he picks a better place to put his cigar...

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equal but opposite
Posted by: chiefwanadubie on Jul 26, 2008 1:34 PM   
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I don't know why the FEMINAZI'S are against McCain, they're both cold hearted bitches!!!

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» RE: equal but opposite Posted by: J_Mo
Excellent brief on his anit-choice position
Posted by: john2007 on Jul 26, 2008 2:38 PM   
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This was an excellent brief on McCain's clear anti-choice stance. I have followed much of the campaign but had not really absorbed how much he would threaten Roe-Wade and how unconcerned he is with female issues.

I guess his comments about cunts and tail-hook exploits are important if they have been fully vetted, otherwise they will surly backfire. They have the ring of truth to this old vet and I also think we need to keep up the drum beat on how he ditched his first wife and committed adultery with what's her name; that supposedly turned off Ron and Nancy Reagan.

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sally
Posted by: beeson on Jul 28, 2008 8:26 AM   
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While I think a McCain presidency would be a catastrophe, his comment that it's hard for women to leave them "when they don't have someone to care for them" was misinterpreted. I think he meant it was hard for women to leave their children at home when there was no one else to provide childcare, not that women needed to be cared for. Fair's fair!

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» RE: sally Posted by: J_Mo
What a gentleman: calling his wife a cunt
Posted by: lelectra on Jul 28, 2008 10:59 PM   
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In front of people so you can imagine what she endures with him alone. No wonder she doesn't live with him in Washington. This guy is a privileged opportunist; he always puts his finger up to see which way the wind blows. Anyway, the cunt crack says it all. And why do we not read about this in the newspaper or hear about it on TV? Something tells me if Obama said something like that it would get wide exposure. McNasty they call him.

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