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Reproductive Justice and Gender

Obama Botches the Abortion Conversation

By Marie Cocco, Washington Post Writers Group. Posted July 8, 2008.


Why is a candidate praised for his rhetorical gifts perpetuating irresponsible stereotypes about women who have abortions?
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Somewhere along Barack Obama's winding road through the red states, he lost me. It happened when he talked about women who are "feeling blue."

Obama says that these women should not be able to obtain a late-term abortion, because just "feeling blue" isn't the same as suffering "serious clinical mental health diseases." True enough. And totally infuriating.

During the recent Obama pander tour -- the one in which he spent about a week trying to win over conservative religious voters -- the presumptive Democratic nominee unnecessarily endorsed President Bush's faith-based initiative, a sort of patronage program that rewards religious activists for their political support with public grants. Then in a St. Louis speech, Obama declared that "I let Jesus Christ into my life." That's fine, but we already have a president who believes this was a qualification for the Oval Office, and look where that's gotten us.

Obama's verbal meanderings on the issue of late-term abortion go further. He has muddied his position. Whether this is a mistake or deliberate triangulation, only Obama knows for sure.

One thing is certain: Obama has backhandedly given credibility to the right-wing narrative that women who have abortions -- even those who go through the physically and mentally wrenching experience of a late-term abortion -- are frivolous and selfish creatures who might perhaps undergo this ordeal because they are "feeling blue."

The wordplay began when Obama, in an interview with the religious magazine Relevant, said he believes late-term abortions can be banned except in cases where "a serious physical issue ... arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems with the mother carrying that child to term." In other words, a woman's emotional and psychological health would not be considered factors. Obama said he doesn't think "'mental distress' qualifies as the health of the mother."

Since this contradicts the landmark Roe v. Wade decision and subsequent court rulings that have upheld mental health exceptions to abortion bans, the campaign had to flip back from the flop. Obama spoke to reporters on his campaign plane and gave a definition of a mental health exception that goes like this: "It can be defined by serious, clinical mental health diseases. It is not just a matter of feeling blue." He noted that neither abortion-rights supporters nor the courts have ever interpreted a mental health exception that way.

They have not. Because this sort of language -- that women might have late-term abortions just because they feel "blue" -- is that of the anti-abortion lobby. As part of its campaign to ban the procedure, anti-abortion activists have consistently depicted women who have abortions as doing so for convenience, to get themselves out of an uncomfortable jam of their own making.

In all the years I have covered the incendiary politics of late-term abortion -- procedures that comprise only about 1 percent of abortions in the U.S. -- I have never come across a woman who terminated a pregnancy late because she was "feeling blue." I have interviewed married women who ended a planned pregnancy after it went catastrophically wrong. One was carrying a fetus whose brain had grown outside the skull. Another had endured months of unexplained and uncontrollable bleeding, only to discover after her abortion that the placenta was breaking up and being passed from her body.

The medical conditions these women suffered might or might not have been considered purely physical under a restrictive abortion law that a state legislature -- or the U.S. Congress -- might pass. Their lives weren't in direct jeopardy; the pregnancies were. They agonized over their choice. Did they feel "blue"? No. It was much, much worse than that. A campaign spokesman said Obama made the point about "feeling blue" to show that women do not make abortion decisions lightly. I do not question Obama's support for abortion rights; he's been clear that he supports keeping abortion legal.

But I do wonder why a candidate praised for his rhetorical gifts talks about women in the way that he does. During the primary campaign, he said Hillary Clinton launched political attacks on him "periodically, when she's feeling down." He called a Detroit reporter "sweetie" when she was trying to ask him about job creation. Now he has incorporated a myth created by the right -- that women who seek late-term abortions should not be allowed to do so if they are "feeling blue" -- into his own lexicon. And this is enough to make me see red.

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Marie Cocco is a prize-winning syndicated columnist on political and cultural topics for The Washington Post Writers Group. She is a frequent commentator on national TV and radio shows.

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Politics 101
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jul 8, 2008 1:26 AM   
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People seem to be disillusioned with Senator Obama for careening toward the center. They shouldn't be. It is called "smart politics. Please when you have finished reading all of the great pieces and replies on AlterNet, have a gander at what I wrote on my blog on this very subject. Here's a link:

The Democrats: Buyer's Remorse?

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» Right on target Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Politics 101 Posted by: cmaciain
» RE: Politics 101 Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Politics 101 Posted by: richholland
» where's your self respect? Posted by: wobblie
» RE: Politics 101 Posted by: progdem
» RE: progdem Posted by: Tom Degan
Democrat or Dipocrit?
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Jul 8, 2008 1:46 AM   
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Enough of this nitwit's pandering. Goddamit Obama, sit down with Kucinich and learn a real agenda for peace, progress and prosperity with dignity.....then endorse it, adopt it and implement it. Fail and we are left with more Obamarama and that bullshit will drive true Democrats to McCain, Barr or simply staying home on election day. We need a new FDR and he was given to us on a silver platter....but Kucinich is "off the table" too. We're stuck with Obama and my only confidence is his ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of a victory that should be a rout. Maliki has more balls than Obama and that is utterly embarrassing to contemplate!

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» RE: Democrat or Dipocrit? Posted by: Tom Degan
Why?
Posted by: Blink on Jul 8, 2008 4:26 AM   
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"Why is a candidate praised for his rhetorical gifts perpetuating irresponsible stereotypes about women who have abortions?"

Because he's an idiot.

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» He never said THAT Posted by: bizeeb
Way to go Obama
Posted by: carbon-based on Jul 8, 2008 5:01 AM   
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First, I hate getting into the abortion discussion, but late term abortions for feeling blue???? does that mean that if you feel depressed at say 8 months the left is advocating an abortion is ok?? If so this is a "dark group" for sure.

Second, Obama recently came out blasting Moveon.org for their anti Petraeus ad's last year.

He is taking the "right" road for sure and will take away any weaknesses that McCain could use against him. Imagine, McCain cannot no link him to the moveon.org loones.

This guy has some outstanding advisors!

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» Make sure you read it. Posted by: Beck
» RE: Way to go Obama Posted by: Blondinista
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Oh, get over it
Posted by: Moonray on Jul 8, 2008 5:27 AM   
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Cocco is showing the classic symptoms of addiction to aggrievement: Obsessing over perceived slights, ultrasensitivity to nuances of language and paranoia about anyone -- especially men -- viewed as not sharing those obsessions and sensitivities.

Politics is indeed like making sausage. Sometimes you just need to turn away, as when Obama recently went on his sucking up tour to visit religious knuckle-draggers. The problem is, those knuckle-draggers control a lot of votes and a politician is obliged to suck up to them. It's what makes our society so backward compared to, say, Europe.

Anyway, when Obama engages in this sausage-making activity, Cocco and other valiant feminist stalwarts should just close their eyes, hold their noses and turn away. And for God's sake vote for him on election day anyway. God help us all if he loses.

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why is it that...
Posted by: ellie on Jul 8, 2008 5:32 AM   
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after all these years we are still fighting the abortion issue... Roe is not all about abortion but broader issues... Roe's basic constitutional question was and still is; does a person (either sex) really have the final decision as to what to do with their own body, or does a person's body actually belong to the government at all levels...

back to coffee...

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» RE: why is it that... Posted by: VZEQICVA
Stupid is as stupid does
Posted by: solrev on Jul 8, 2008 6:33 AM   
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The idea that it is good or smart politics to flip flop and pander to get elected is insane to me. But hell, I am one of the mystics who actually believe that one should let your yes be yes and your no be no. I do not think anyone would agree that late term abortions should happen because a woman is feeling blue. It seems like a safe statement to make. However the insinuation is there, that this is the reality and nothing could be farther from the truth. The really stupid thing is, Obama is pandering to people who will not vote for him anyway. He should have stuck with his original message of change. This concept of “now we’re in the general election, it’s time for politics as usual” is crazy. The maverick McCain flip flopped of his base pandering, and now the change candidate is flip flopping off his base. This leaves the straight shooter McCain people with no place to go. How smart is that? The right staked out an ideology and consistently runs on that ideology. The fact that their position and reality are not congruent is irrelevant. They can win anyway, because the left tries to hide from their ideology. The minute the right screams spending, socialist, or communist the left runs for cover. If the left would have stuck to the message of “we are going to institute a government to secure the entitlements of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”, when the right screamed socialist the left could scream American. Had the left did that, Americans would win every election. My only conclusion is that there is no left. At least, there are no Americans left.

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told you so liberals!
Posted by: wobblie on Jul 8, 2008 6:44 AM   
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dems are suckers once again! Obama's bought and paid for by the corporate order.

when are you going to stop colluding with the repukes to destroy my country.

GET SOME SELF-RESPECT.

VOTE NADER O8!

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Moonray off the mark
Posted by: boing007 on Jul 8, 2008 7:13 AM   
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Politics is indeed like making sausage. Sometimes you just need to turn away, as when Obama recently went on his sucking up tour to visit religious knuckle-draggers. The problem is, those knuckle-draggers control a lot of votes and a politician is obliged to suck up to them. It's what makes our society so backward compared to, say, Europe.

Oh yeah? Isn't that what Sarkozy did in France, Blair in G.B. and Merkel in Germany? They all sucked up to different political stripes and it put them all over the top. We're all going backwards.

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I TOLD YOU RALPH NADER WAS A HELL OF A LOT BETTER THAN OBAMA BUT DID ANYONE LISTEN ?!?!?
Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 8, 2008 7:31 AM   
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!! And now all you people are whining and crying about it. For the past 28 years, you all allowed the Democrats to RAPE and ABUSE your votes election after election only to watch them cave in to the GOP ! Well ?!?!? Are you "HAPPY" now ?!?!? If not, then SHUT THE HELL UP and redirect your support to 3rd party / Independent candidacies that are progressive/liberal ! What the FUCK is so hard about that ?!?!?

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Cocco Is Wrong
Posted by: EncinoM on Jul 8, 2008 8:10 AM   
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In defense sof Obama, NO COURT has held that a purely mental condiction of the mother is enough of a justification for a late term abortion, in states that restrict late term abortions. Roe and Casey but use a factors test for late term abortions, one of those factors is the mental health of the mother. This sole factor has never been found that by its self it is enough for the procedure.

Additionally, the examples cited have nothing to do with the mental condiction of the mothers but problems with the pregnancies.

While I support abortions for the most part, come the third trimester, there is a new person's whose rights have to be protected. By the third trimester, the fetus can live outside of the womb. Does the writer support the notion of unlimited abortions up until birth?

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CONDESCENDING AT BEST
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 8, 2008 8:29 AM   
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Obama ought to stay out of the abortion fight. There is no right thing to say. It's not about women, or mental health problems, it's about getting votes. Let's hear more about getting out of Iraq and the job situation and forclosures. These are the hard questions, Abortion is easy to bat around. Polticians have been doing it for years. It's insulting to women and in the end it has nothing to do with us. It's about them, the politicians. ANNA

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Keep Obama honest
Posted by: PhiloPsych on Jul 8, 2008 10:05 AM   
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Whether you will vote for Ralph Nader or not, you should want him in the race and in the debates because he forces Obama to play straight--Obama can't move toward McCain to decrease McCain's margin without also moving away from Nader and increasing Nader's margin. So help get Nader in the debates!

Go to www.neworleansdebate.org and click on their "Contact Us" link. Tell them to invite Ralph Nader and Bob Barr to join the debate.

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A Guy's Opinion (/shudder)
Posted by: loxias on Jul 8, 2008 11:30 AM   
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Until we make men that impregnate women and disappear liable for actually doing anything about it or facing a consequence, I don't see how we can deny women the right to abort. Having a child is a potential life sentence for a mother who doesn't want a child. How can we lob a random fine at the male, who can just move away, but force a woman to change the rest of her life based on a decision she was often (certainly not always) cajoled into making? I could never support that. Our society treats women like crap especially socially and via media. We convince them to prance around sexually at the earliest age possible, and then condemn them for life for sexual activity. I respect the (flawed) opinion that making abortions easy is a negative way to impact the number of births, but restricting them hasn't lowered birth rates or created a more moral society. It's the opposite if anything. Do you anti-abortion morons have any idea how difficult it is for most women to decide to abort and follow through? Do you really think a woman could carry an infant for months and flippantly kill it because she felt depressed? People who make decisions based on these assumptions show their interminable ignorance.

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» Wow... Posted by: BreeMass
» No, I'm first! Posted by: Beck
» RE: A Guy's Opinion (/shudder) Posted by: BreeMass
I'm just glad...
Posted by: BreeMass on Jul 8, 2008 12:17 PM   
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...Obama is pro-choice. His choice of words might not always be perfect, but I'd hate to hear what I sounded like if my every comment was recorded. Unlike many on the left, I don't think it is a bad thing to embrace religious people and sometimes the language needs to be softened to reach them. I don't see this is as flip-flopping or pandering, simply pragmatic politics.

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I'd like to invite some intelligent commenters...
Posted by: Q30 on Jul 8, 2008 4:32 PM   
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...to clarify a few questions I have about what appears to be dishonest tactics used by ardent pro-choice supporters.

Let me start by saying that I have no quibble with being pro-choice. What I DO have a quibble with are what appear (to me) as being dishonest scare-tactics.

1. The majority of US voters favor slight-- SLIGHT-- limits on abortion but oppose an outright ban. So why do you insist that enacting ANY restrictions whatsoever will inevitably lead to a ban? This antimajoritarian position is exactly the same slippery-slope fallacy that sustains the NRA loonies, so why do you do it yourselves?

2. You make it clear that an abortion is a difficult, heartbreaking decision for the pregnant woman but you also say that destroying a fetus is no big deal because it's just a clump of cells. So which is it, then? If it's really no big deal then why is it a difficult, heartbreaking decision? You can't have it both ways! Either NOTHING important is being destroyed or SOMETHING important is being destroyed. How can it be both?

3. The chant "coat-hangars in back-alleys" is a disingenuous straw-man, isn't it? Come on, coat hangars? It's one thing to say that outlawing abortion will make it an unsafe, unregulated practice-- I can agree with that statement-- but do you NEED to haul-out this tired "coat-hangar" straw-man which is just an attempt to manipulate people's emotions?

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the whole idea that late-term abortions...
Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Jul 8, 2008 9:03 PM   
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are done that often is just "right-to-life" propaganda...i worked in an ob/gyn office (5 doctors; at least 150 patients a day) for nearly 10 years...in all that time i remember only 3 times we referred women for late term abortions and in each of those cases the fetus was terribly abnormal...2 of the cases were for anencephaly - essentially no head/brain...the other case was a fetus with severe chromosomal abnormalities...in each of these cases the abortion was offered by the physician as an option to these patients...furthermore, i never had any other woman inquire about a late term abortion - EVER and believe me i answered many bizarre phone calls...

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GirlsThree
Posted by: Girlsthree on Jul 9, 2008 7:09 AM   
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This discussion is really missing the boat on the debate about Mr. Obama. He is as over-nuanced as his predecessor Mr. Kerry.
He, obviously,is trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth while seeming to compromise to attract some of the moderate vote.
As any in the women's-right-to-an-abortion movement knows the "health" issue is the the key to avoiding the whole ball of wax that is involved in "to protect the life of the mother". "Health of the mother" allows abortion at any time--which conveniently circumvents any law, opinion, etc. concerning restriction to abortion. For the writer to argue over the "feeling blue" vs. "health of the mother" (which most certainly includes mental health) and claim it "demeans" women is really grasping for straws and shows an extreme over-sensitivity as well as a paucity of ideas.
What the real debate lacks is answers to the question of when life begins vs. why should we care? Obviously this whole website is dedicated to the preposition that "It's all about me!"or "hell no, I don't care!" (women's convenience, of course!)
Marcia Gravely

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I'm about to have a late-term abortion and feel terrible
Posted by: EMB on Jul 9, 2008 10:04 AM   
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This is not easy or frivolous. Also it is not a bunch of cells. I am looking at the sonogram picture of my baby with arms and legs et al. I am 15 weeks pregnant and just received the results of my amniocentesis which show definitely that the baby has Spina Bifida. They looked at the amniotic fluid and found an excess of a certain protein (leaked from the brain or the spinal cord because the baby is not whole). This can mean the baby never makes it to age three or does make it to around eight, SEVERELY disabled in a wheel-chair the whole time before a heart-breaking death.
Am I just "feeling blue"? No, I am feeling terrible. My life is not at risk but most people would agree that the baby is better off in heaven now rather than later. My doctor is pro-life yet supports my decision with tears in his eyes. We will try again after grieving for this little one..
Let Doctors and Patients make the call. Keep politicians out of it.

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GREY THINKING
Posted by: shirl_inla on Jul 9, 2008 2:27 PM   
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Since when is it not okay to change ones mind?

Yes Obama disappointed me...I am Pro-Choice period. However, he is running against McCain not Nadar not Kucinich ( I would have loved to see either of them if office in my life time ) Let's give Obama the benefit of thought. I truly believe he will bring a positive change. He inspires change. It may not be what most of us outraged at his comments want...put it is a step forward and upward.

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Obama's a none-too-bright male chauvinist
Posted by: Blink on Jul 9, 2008 5:25 PM   
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Obama is not very intelligent. His thinking is far too cliche ("...they cling to guns, religion, and antipathy to those who aren't like them..."), and he makes far too many verbal gaffes to be all that smart. I think his lack of a keen intellect also manifests itself in a tendency to shoot from the mouth -- he doesn't think things through enough to realize that he's being unwise ("...bring all troops home in 16 months...") and later must amend his previously stated positions when it finally sinks in. He'd probably do well at Scrabble but suck at chess.

As specifically regards this article, I also think he is fundamentally, as part of his core being, a male chauvinist. That trait has revealed itself in comments he has made in unguarded moments over an extended period of time (for example, referring on several occasions to women reporters as "Sweetie").

I've met many a person who is glib and facile with words but not particularly intelligent when it comes to abstract reasoning. I've also met many people who are gifted in both areas, but that type of person ususally doesn't come across as glib and phony ("I am duly chastened on that front." Give me a f'ing break.) I find his cadence to be similar to that of a Baptist preacher and extremely annoying. I hope to God that he doesn't choose another person with an extremely annoying manner of speaking -- John "Two Ahmurricaahs" Edwards -- and actually win this fall. I don't think I could stand to hear either one of them preaching at me for four years.

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