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Tragic Traps: Make a Mistake in America and You May Pay a Heavy Price for Decades

By Joe Bageant, CounterPunch. Posted June 17, 2008.


Unlucky citizens who fall victim to the U.S. justice system are treated like profit centers to be squeezed without mercy.
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Late at night through my window by the computer I can see my neighbor Stokes bicycling at 10 p.m. to the local convenience store to buy groceries. Not only is that an expensive way to feed one's self, but it is the only way for old Stokes to cop some grubs without getting thrown in jail. Seriously. As a convicted sex offender, he is not allowed to be near young women in a supermarket checkout line. Nor is he allowed to visit a park, or even his own grandchild, even though he is not a child molester by the court's own admission. He is not allowed to drink a beer. In fact, he is not even allowed to read Playboy Magazine.

A dozen or so years ago Stokes, now 66 with a gray ponytail, an altogether gentle soul who labors under the illusion he looks like Willie Nelson, (and even has a framed photo of Willie on his wall to invite comparison). Got caught by police in a, shall we say, "a vehicular sexual incident" with a married woman. They were both drunk, big deal. That happens in beer joints. To make a long story short, by the time they got to court, the lady's testimony was that it was all against her will, which being a married woman, solved a lot of problems for her. That resulted in Stokes being convicted as a sex offender, while his public defender all but slept through the trial.

To make matters worse, Stokes had an unregistered handgun stashed in his car. Stupid, I know, but rednecks are often like that, and I'd be willing to bet there are more unregistered handguns than registered ones around here. This may horrify urban liberals, but legal or not, it is the common practice of tens of thousands of people down here in the southern climes of our great nation. It's also common practice nationwide to many thousands of cab drivers, night clerks, hotel parking valets, bill collectors, repo men, single women and god only knows how many others. At any rate, thanks to the gun that he never touched, Stokes was prosecuted for armed abduction for sexual purposes and did ten years.

He's been out for years now. But he was released into an entirely different world than he left -- one that seems scripted by Adam Smith and Hanging Judge Roy Bean. As a convicted felon, he has been released from prison to serve a new sentence to serve time as a profit center for our economy. In truth, he has been one from the day he was charged.

First off, he was a profit center for the prison where he served his time. Now it is fairly common knowledge that America's burgeoning system of privatized prisons, "super jails," and related services has been a boon for corporations such as Corrections Corporation of America, Geo Group (formerly Wackenhut Corrections Corp.) and their investors. Prisoner leasing programs such as Florida's, which rents out prison labor for less than 50 cents an hour to private industry in the name of "job training," make building more prisons an attractive option for state governments and investors. It also makes recidivism desirable, since it assures the prison labor pool. Somewhere between 1 percent and 2 percent of Americans are behind bars, locked up at any given time, and as many more are on probation or under state monitoring. Obviously, capitalist style punishment is a solid financial investment.

Now I am not about to screech here that our prison system is anywhere near that created by Uncle Joe Stalin. We do not have 9 million people in it, and we do not get sent there for being late for work at the factory, our factories having been outsourced. However, after 1929 Stalin's prison camps were transformed to an economic machine. And in order to fulfill the camps' economic goals, more and more prisoners were required, just as more prisoners are required to fulfill the investor goals of Corrections Corporation of America, Geo Group. In any case, convictions are profitable and the more of them there are, the more money both private interests and the state take in.

That in itself is way the hell past just being strange. But throw in the term sex offender and get on the registered sex offender list (which seems to be mostly filled with Johns who solicited prostitutes, though you'd never know it by the way they name the offense) and it all gets really weird. Chilling even. This is partly because of the taboo and stigma associated, but mostly for the bizarre monitoring rules, and the money involved in enforcement. For example, Stokes must pay a couple hundred a month for counseling, group therapy and so on, until they tell him he can stop doing so. This therapy mainly amounts to listening to the stories of more serious offenders, such as child molesters, even though he is not one but is being treated by law as if he were. Such is the fate of being legally shackled to any of dozens of types of "certified sex offender treatment providers," an ever expanding industry they tell me.

He also must pay for registration as an offender, blood, saliva, fingerprints, palm prints, police registration of his internet address (within 30 minutes of obtaining it), and so on with the Department of State Police and the Sex Offenders Registry, providing a new photo, address, etc., for 10 years, effectively the rest of Stokes' life, not to mention registering with the local cops wherever he lives. After five years he may petition the court for relief from having to reregister monthly. He cannot leave the state. He is supposed to inform employers of his status as a sex offender. So he cannot get a normal job and subsists on handyman work. In the end he generates about $400 a month for one post-incarceration entity or another, whether he has a job or not.

Stokes' designated handlers tell him that the system would smile upon him if he would get more formal 8-5 employment, something that could be more easily tracked and taxed. Would that it were so easy for a 66-year-old man in this country. So he replies, "I'm retired dammit. I got the same right to live on my social security, if I can manage to, as anyone else."

Yes, but it's not much of a life for someone who once worked a skilled job setting up lights and stage gear in large arenas and performance venues. Now he lives in a basement workshop of an overcrowded apartment building/rooming house, in a space that is supposed to pass for an apartment but doesn't even come close. For that privilege he pays $600 a month and is allowed to work off part of it off by the landlord as a handyman.

Stokes tells me he could get out from under much of this by, and here's the legal wording, "satisfying the court's criteria for clear and convincing evidence that due to his physical condition the person no longer poses a menace to the health and safety of others."

"You could cut your dick off," I suggested.

"Sometimes I wish I had," he sighs.

In any case, I am pretty dammed convinced parole is a racket, just like incarceration has become a racket, just as everything in this whole goddamned country is a racket in disguise, from home mortgages to healthcare. If it is vital to ordinary citizens, it's a racket. But fear is the biggest racket of all. Even our rightful fear of sex offenders gets harnessed to the objectives of the corporate and political elites, woven into the weft and warp of the national delusion we call "the fabric of our society." The freedom loving one that currently has 2.2 million of its own citizens locked up and another 2 million walking around under strict post-incarceration supervision and monitoring.

At this writing there are supposed to be 117 registered sex offenders in this burg of 24,000 from which I write, Winchester, Va., yet only 61 in the surrounding county, which has a population of 73,000. Let me make a wild speculation here and say there may be a difference in the way justice is administered in the two localities.

As if Stokes' needed to catch any more bad breaks, Stokes' situation got worse. It seems he had the outrageous gall to get himself a dog. Stokes came upon a rather large black female mutt recently that looked like she had a little retriever in her, according to Stokes, though I could never see it. She was bone skinny, partially blind, and being neglected and abused by an old alcoholic woman down the street.

That dog, named Beulah, just loved Stokes. He lovingly fed her, and she stayed by his side constantly and obediently. But she kept getting skinnier and skinnier no matter how much he fed her. For a while we speculated it was worms, but I've seen enough dogs to know something worse was at work. Stokes spent money he didn't have on expensive worm medicine. But he surely did not have $150 for a vet and tests, and in a nation where uninsured folks are let to die slowly because they cannot pay cash, there was damned sure no more mercy for dogs.

Mercy too has been privatized and costs money. Meanwhile old Beulah is hanging out in the back yard in a friendly fashion, weak and sick as she is, sniffing and getting petted by all who come her way. Dogs are like that. Uncomplaining and decent unto death. I've had several who passed that way. She was old and getting ready top die, sure as god made little green apples. Broke as Stokes is, this was certainly was not going to be a veterinarian administered death, with a canine Kevorkian attending. And being a paroled felon, for damned sure Stokes was not going to produce a gun and shoot her, which is the way old dogs and other animals were put out of misery back in our day.

A situation like that is bound to draw the animal control officer's attention and rightfully so given the outward appearance of the situation. So Stokes was busted. An examination showed that Beulah had diabetes. Seems they'll get a vet to examine a dog to get a conviction but not to save a dog's life. Whereupon Stokes was charged with animal abuse by the animal control office of our city police department. "You should never have let that dog get in this condition; you should have taken her to a veterinarian!" Now Stokes has a court appearance on the docket for animal cruelty. And of course no money for a lawyer. That's where the compassion of a lonely old man for another sentient being will get you. Smack dab in the jaws of our justice system.

I hold middle-class America responsible for this deformed thing we now call justice. And I've wanted to write an article about the sex abuse crime industry scam in this country and proposed it to several magazines. Every one of them said that sex abusers are too unsympathetic as characters for them to publish. I pointed out that these are real people, not characters in a fictional work. The editors added that they were afraid the public might mistake such a story as being supportive of real sex offenders.

Governments and states exist to control people and for no other reason. If justice is achieved somewhere in the process, it's an added bonus. But control above all else is necessary for modern civilization to exist. Population grows by the minute, increasing social pressure on humanity.

More rules and more control are required to keep order. Order is defined as the way we think others should behave -- or imagine them to misbehave. We support the state's police machinery and massive incarceration of our fellow citizens, so long as they are being imprisoned for the right reasons. They should pay. Every action in a capitalist world must produce money. So they should pay in cash.

I was recently in Minneapolis and spent a couple of nights getting drunk with a friend, an apartment building owner who in his younger years did hard time for burglary. Things were somewhat different then, he avowed. In the '50s and '60s, a prisoner may or may not have worked off his "debt to society." But in these times, he says, "the system demands that you just deliver payment in cash. It's more efficient. But not fundamentally different. Back then, the rich still profited for our crimes more than we did. We stole $10,000 worth of stuff. Next day in the paper we found that the guy we burglarized claimed $30,000 worth for insurance purposes. Getting robbed was a winning situation for him. He made 20K on us."

It's also is a wining situation for the 20 percent of Americans in what we call the middle class -- those actually living the middle-class life as advertised by the commercial and financial state's marketing department. It works well for Stokes' psychologist, his piss tester, his lie detector service contractor, the people with the sex offender website contract, and all good citizens with investments on Wall Street. The psychologist needs money to send his kid on the private school trip to Italy this summer. The contractor providing the sex abuser services just built a summer down on the eastern shore of Virginia. The state police officer running the sex abuser monitoring program will retire in six years -- his investments need to earn another $50,000 in that time. But hold on!

Honest to God, as I conclude writing this -- and I swear on a stack of friggin' Bibles -- a police prowl car and two of the department's animal control officers in a police truck just parked in front of Stokes' place, across my driveway. They get out after rifling through some papers on a clipboard and talking on cell phones.

Now they have walked over to Stokes' back door. He comes out and they sit him down in a lawn chair while they stand over him, hands on hips, lips moving under dark sunglasses. And the neighbors are all peeking out their blinds, watching the cops accost the registered sex offender (once he was on the internet registry, word got around here fast). They are probably looking at the animal control officers' truck and thinking, "Oh my gawd! Bestiality too?"

Anyway you look at it, this cannot be good. Not for Stokes, not for you or me or anyone else less than enamored with the idea of a police state.

And Stokes? As he told me only yesterday, "I'm a goddamned magnet for bad luck."

No he's not. He's just one more anonymous human profit center to be squeezed, one more grape to be crushed in a grotesque blood and money press that has no mercy.

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Joe Bageant is author of the book Deer Hunting With Jesus: Dispatches from America's Class War. (Random House Crown), about working class America. A complete archive of his on-line work, along with the thoughts of many working Americans on the subject of class may be found on his website.

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yes, there is a class war in America
Posted by: Lector on Jun 17, 2008 12:46 AM   
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The white working class that Bageant writes about generally votes for the Republican party which has a unique relationship with this permanent underclass, this underclass in turn blames the erosion of their traditions and values on the Liberals instead of on raping and pillaging self interested Republicans who use religion and fear to herd them to the slaughterhouse. Neo-cons understand the real secret to running this country, fear and religion because a real education system could have a liberalizing effect on all the people and what would we have then? Maybe democracy.

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I read this on your blog, Joe, and it's an excellent article.
Posted by: andabottleof_rum on Jun 17, 2008 1:24 AM   
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About a year and a half ago, my sister had a run in with the law. She and her husband had been fighting, and their marriage is generally unstable. Well, she ended up getting her own apartment, separate from the house she and her husband had shared. The fighting continued, perhaps exacerbated by her moving out.

It got to the point where she drove by their house once and threw a rock through the porch window, out of spite. He called the police out of spite.

The window was about six inches by six inches square, a replacement would have cost a few dollars, and the rock didn't even break the whole thing, just punched about a two-inch hole in it. The rock must have been about an inch in diameter.

The police issued a warrant for her arrest. She learned of this from her husband, who even told the police when they were at the house examining the situation that he was only doing this so that she'd have a criminal record, in case their marriage ended in divorce. That way he could protect his assets.

My sister turned herself in, spent the weekend in jail crying over the phone to her family to bail her out (it was too late at night, and the weekend was coming, so she had to wait until Monday), and faced multiple charges including disorderly conduct, vandalism, and domestic violence. I wondered how she could be charged with domestic violence for breaking her own window - a cheap one at that - and the cop at the jail told me that any act of violence, even against property, that occurs within the context of an intimate relationship can be charged as domestic violence.

Prosecutors like to make numerous charges in the hope one of a few will stick, or in the hope that the defendant will be more likely to plea bargain and the more severe ones will be dropped. It's good for their careers to have so many convictions on their records.

My sister did the plea bargain so as to avoid a jail sentence. She didn't fight the charges. She had to go to expensive domestic violence classes for six months, which cost her a couple thousand dollars altogether. She had to meet with a probation officer and submit urine tests. She was not allowed to use any drugs or even alcohol. She had to submit to random drug tests, where police would show up at her place and demand she go submit a urine sample. She had to forfeit her right to own a firearm for the rest of her life. And of course, she now has a criminal record that includes domestic violence, so half of her job options are gone.

All this happened because her marriage turned bitter, she threw a rock a small window on the porch of her own house because she was angry and hurt, and her husband wanted her to have a criminal record in case they ended up divorcing.

The justice system in this country is a joke. It has no moral legitimacy, only the threat of force (imprisonment, a criminal record etc.) to back it up.

These kind of horrific situations can befall anyone who has the gall to exhibit natural human emotions, like Stokes having sex with a woman or my sister being bitter at her husband for the bad state of their relationship and making an indirect gesture for attention like throwing a rock through the house window. Hell, the safest way to live in our society is to have no social contacts, therefore no one to get tangled up with when life inevitably gets sticky. Maybe this is where we're headed as a society.

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» You're a pussy, dude. Posted by: andabottleof_rum
» RE: You're a pussy, dude. Posted by: pomes
Society has a legitimate right to protect itself from predators
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Jun 17, 2008 1:30 AM   
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But does anyone believe that this system actually does that?

We breed criminals here - then send them to "warrior schools" for advanced predation training, make it impossible for them to return to citizenship upon release even if they have resolved to keep to the "straight and narrow."

We constantly hear about high recidivism rates - 70% within three years, I have heard. Is all that really necessary? And what of the 30% who manage to jump through all the hoops? Do we lift our foot from their necks? Allow them decent employment and housing?

What about the children of these convicts? How much punishment do they deserve after their parent has done their time? As we continue to punish and marginalize these citizens, how many consider that they have families who are also punished and marginalized?

Surely we could identify the real incorrigibles and cut the rest a bit of slack. It is ironic (but completely unsurprising to a lot of us) that this oh so Christian society that pays so much lip service to forgiveness spends so much resources on marginalization and persecution.

DNA has established that many of our innocent citizens have been incarcerated for rape. How many are still locked up - with no hope of eventual exoneration - because DNA wasn't an issue?

Far better - once you have been charged - to be rich and guilty than poor and innocent. We have the best justice system money can buy.

Has all this made us safer?

NO! It's actually safer in some war zones than here.

Must be because we don't lock enough of em up long enough - right?

NO!

We have the highest incarceration rate of any industrialized country - including the police state China!

We also have politicians who would rather pander to our fears than employ intelligence and reason to our problems - because there is power in it for them and cash for their patrons.

Our "Justice System" is irredeemably broken in this "land of the free." As long as cynical manipulation of citizen paranoia is a quick entree to the halls of power, it can never be fixed.

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Dammit! Don't y'all understand?
Posted by: mizipi on Jun 17, 2008 1:50 AM   
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That we have to fight for freedom and liberty and justice in such places as Iraq and Afghanistan so the rest of the world can enjoy a society such as ours. Those damn Iranians are lunatics, so every freedom loving American should get on board the war-machine to blow them to smithereens! I can't wait until my own government has to burn the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution to generate revenue for some obscure lie that the media perpetuates and the gullible public consumes.

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» RE: Dammit! Don't y'all understand? Posted by: edgeofnowhere
AMEN!!!!
Posted by: zman6919 on Jun 17, 2008 2:23 AM   
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I've been saying this on my blog for a long time now.

PRISON IS A BUSINESS, AND BUSINESS IS GOOD!!!!

GREAT ARTICLE!!!!

I posted it on my blog, hope you don't mind, it's about these draconian sex offender laws...

http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/

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» That's a courageous blog. Posted by: fanny666
Vigilantes
Posted by: zman6919 on Jun 17, 2008 2:25 AM   
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You should also check out Corrupted-Justice.com, they are against Perverted-Justice tactics and the following is a law suit from the self proclaimed vigilantes online who love to harass sex offenders, just because they are sex offenders and they were abused sometime in their lives.

http://www.corrupted-justice.com/article28.html

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What have we become?
Posted by: marid on Jun 17, 2008 3:57 AM   
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When we allow private business to reap profits from human misery and stupidity? How low can we stoop? Judging from the past 7 plus years I would say pretty low.

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Rape Culture
Posted by: EKSwitaj on Jun 17, 2008 4:20 AM   
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OK, I'm sure you make good points about a profit-driven "justice" system in this article, but after the introduction, I felt too sick to read it. Is there a reason why you needed to start with a woman-lies-about-rape-and-ruins-man's-life story? Were you cynically playing off sexist tropes in order to garner sympathy for the cause? Do you realize that the prevalence of such narratives only increases the tendency to disbelieve women who say they were raped?

You may see a "gentle soul", but the fact is that plenty of men who seem that way (especially to other men) are rapists. Did you even stop to think that maybe, just maybe, the man and not the woman was lying?

Again, I'm sure you've made a fine contribution to the struggle against prison profiteering, but unfortunately you've also contributed to rape culture.

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The Punishment Society
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jun 17, 2008 4:36 AM   
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As the years move forth, and the fact that America's national treasure has been looted beyond repair, our government is going to have to come up with ways to make a lot of extra cash. The money is going to come from the pockets of the poor and middle classes.

We will surely become a punative society. We will be fined for the stupidest, trivial transgressions. Laws will be passed that will make it easier to throw the people into those private, for-profit prisons that the article speaks of. Watch your step.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
Sunday Will Never Be The Same

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It's always been....
Posted by: Marlena on Jun 17, 2008 5:08 AM   
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the wealthy who profit from the work of others, its the "capitalist way" And once you are a profit center for them, they never stop...til you are dead. Prisons for Profit are slave labor camps. We truly live in a fascist society, where the crops control us. Fascism is the iron fist of capitalism, and it will beat us to death

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» RE: It's always been.... Posted by: Dboy
The Business of Criminalizing Everyone
Posted by: be marc on Jun 17, 2008 5:17 AM   
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When you write laws that criminalize tens of millions of otherwise law-abiding citizens and enforce those laws with police state tactics and heartless prosecutors you create a huge criminal class.
It used to be most criminals were real criminals and not people most folks would hang out with. Now there are so many victimless "crimes" one can be convicted of that there are a lot of pretty nice people with criminal records. And of course they've been marginalized since those records affect their employment and other opportunities.
Per capita more people are involved with the US criminal injustice system than any other on the planet.
Yes, crime is a business and business is GOOD.

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Welcome, Brother
Posted by: jiaomenfu on Jun 17, 2008 5:40 AM   
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It is very frustrating and sad to read a story about such injustice. However, I believe there should be many more stories of injustice like that of Stokes'. You see, Mr. Stokes is white and the modern-day plantations of America have been making a profit off African Amercians and other minorities long before Mr. Stokes was born, no one cared. This is an unfortunate fact of life in our society, but when whites get abused in large numbers by our judicial and economic systems, positive change is usually on the horizon. My heart goes out to Mr. Stokes, but I look foward to more stories like his. Stories where whites are abused in large numbers by a system that traditionally abuses only minorities. You see, in this case, Misery won't be looking for company, it will be looking for relief. In doing so, maybe, just maybe, minorities will get some, too.

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Really good piece about an infuriating situation
Posted by: PerryBrass on Jun 17, 2008 5:44 AM   
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I thought this was a really good piece about how we live now: that so many people are on the edge in America that suicides now outnumber homicides by almost 2 to 1. That the whole "business of America" is now "every business is the same," and it's all "business." So whether the business is locking people up, your health care, your kids' education, the safety of planes, cars, or humans, it all boils down to whose "profit centers" are we talking about. The important thing is that there should be no alternative to any of this: you're stuck in it, and any attempt to get out or change it is futile, because you just get locked into another "profit center." Congrats on a great piece of writing.

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Our Wonderful Police State!
Posted by: Cybershaman on Jun 17, 2008 6:19 AM   
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Those who are not targetted by it, rarely notice it. By the time those who are normally insulated from it notice it, it is too late to change. Glad to see people are waking up. Hope it isn't too late.

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Lowest common denominator
Posted by: fdgsr on Jun 17, 2008 6:22 AM   
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American justice is simple. All complicated problems are simplified to the LCD. I learned that in math class in school. Without providing statistics that any person with fingers, a keyboard, a computer, and enough time to Google with appropriate keywords can find in an instant with broadband, and in several minutes with dial up, can do, I offer this.

Check the voter registration roles in your precinct and compare with the population statistics. Also check on who ran for Sheriff in your county the past several years. How many people voted your Mayor into office. Check on how the deputies qualify for your Sheriff to hire them. Go to a police academy and check on the students who will man your police forces.

You will find that the quality of the police force and government officials finds its level based on salary and benefits offered, the tax base of your subdivision, and the education level and voter participation in elections.

This is the lowest common denominator of the ratio of law enforcement to the quality of the attitude of the population base.

In a sense we get what we deserve, though our democratic system promises more. More is available but seldom received. If ballots don't do it, eventually bullets will. Revolution is a revolt against authority. Who is the author of the rules? Who taught you math and civics?

What's in your wallet?

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» RE: Lowest common denominator Posted by: Walks-in-Storms
Great Article, But You Should Have Included Another Example...
Posted by: CharlesRoland on Jun 17, 2008 6:27 AM   
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I have been negatively affected by this system because of my previous addiction to an illegal substance. Thankfully, due to the efforts of a high-priced lawyer, I was given probation rather than jail time because I was "self-medicating depression". Unfortunatley, I acquired a felony for distribution of a "Class A Substance" (Heroin). Even though the drugs on my person were mostly for my own use I was in fact also making a drug run for some friends. I got caught in the middle of my "Drug Deal" in the center of Boston's business district Who knew that I was smack in the middle of a "School Zone". My lawyer told me that "everywhere in Boston is a School Zone". Even though I got the School Zone dropped - and even though the judge agreed I was "self-medicating" a previously undiagnosed issue with bipolar disorder, I was still given probation and a felony. Even though I wasn't in my car I was forced to forfeit my driver's license for over a year. I was also forced to pay fines to the DMV. I was also forced to re-take my driver's test (even though I have been driving for decades) and pay hundreds in extra fees.
More than seven years after I was arrested, and almost five years since my probation ended, I was unable to get a license to drive a taxi or limo in my town because of my felony. The list of jobs I will never be considered for is very long - basically, I can't hold any job that requires a license - a hair dreeser, and electrician, a taxi driver, etc. I can't work in a hospital, nursing home, or any health care position. I can't own a gun - even though I have NEVER had an arrest or conviction for a violent crime.

And on a positive note, Mass Rehab helped get me into our local State College. Contrary to popular belief, I was in fact eligible for Financial Aid and Student Loans. There was a law in the 90's that took away the opportunity for people with drug-related offenses to receive aid - but that was changed a few years ago. One must state on the application that they had drug treatment after the offense.
Now that I am only a semester away from graduation (Magna Cum Laude) I am finding that my opportunities will be limited. In Massachusetts we have a CORI system that potential employers use to find out personal information about a prospective employee. The CORI system was put in place in the 70's to give police a way to find out the criminal history of a person. Unfortunatley, the system has been perverted to provide personal information to anyone. Employers, Landlords, Banks, etc. can access your history 24 hours a day. Any interaction with the court system is listed and, without training, is hard to understand. A Not-Guilty verdict looks just as bad as a Guilty verdict. Anything listed - good, bad, or continued without a finding - the person's application is thrown in the garbage. The checkbox on an application that askes if a person has anything on their CORI Record is also a sure way to have your application not considered. I can understand penalizing violent offenders, arsonists, terrorists, and REAL sex offenders (not an 18-year-old who slept with a person a month away from the age of consent), but non violent drug offenders and people with misdemeanors should be exempt from having their info. displayed on the system for anyone to see. It used to be that one payed their debt back to society after their jail time or probation was finished. Now, it goes on and on for years and includes fines and fees on things that had nothing to do with the supposed crime. I say "supposed" because too many punishable actions should not be considered a crime. Prosecuting personal drug use, for example, is a waste of the courts time and taxpayer money.
I look forward to reading more articles pertaining to these issues. Also, please consider an article on CORI Reform, which is currently being considered in Massachusetts.
Sincerely,
Charles Roland

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Money Making Machine
Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Jun 17, 2008 6:35 AM   
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No doubt about it. The "legal system" as we know it is a money making machine. A "for profit" business where bribery and corruption rules. Pretty sad indeed.

JT
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America -The Moral
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Jun 17, 2008 6:48 AM   
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This article does make a point about how "justice" is doled out in America. As the "Good Christian" people get fired up about the "culture of life" maybe they could consider the many lives that have been ruined because of lies. While rape and child molestation are serious offenses which should be punished, I don't believe that our criminal justice system is adequately handling the problem. We as a society really need to have many honest conversations about a whole host of issues that affect everyone in society. We need to stop allowing our fears - along with political partisan pandering to divide us while the corporations are profiteering off of our collective misery. For those that don't choose to remember Ronald Reagan came into office screaming that "government was bad", 30 years later so many functions of government have been outsourced to private industry all without the public really realizing what's going on. America it is time that we wake up and take back this country from the special interest monied crowd.

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21st Century Witch Hunt
Posted by: Libertine on Jun 17, 2008 7:28 AM   
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The enforcement of the latest crime category du jour, that of "Sex Offender", has turned into a modern witch hunt almost to the point of hysteria in some instances. The classification paints an absurdly broad brush in true zero tolerance style and, in many instances, leaves reason and common sense behind, where the punishments no longer fit the crimes.

When the average person hears the term, "sex offender", they think of pedophile predators raping five year olds, who, of course, should be punished harshly.

What many people don't realize is that the classification of "sex offender" encompasses many offenses, many of them minor, and some with only the most tenuous connections to sex under its ridiculous broad "umbrella".

A sex offender can be someone who had consensual sex, as in the article, with someone who later regrets their consent for whatever reason and decides to press charges for date rape.

A sex offender can be a teenager having consensual sex or getting a blow job from a slightly younger girlfriend, as in the case of Genarlow Wilson. Millions of so-called sex offenders are simply teenage boyfriend/girlfriend realationships doing what teens have done for hundreds of years. The difference today is that parents turn to the legal system to act in a parental role for them and handle these situations rather than handling it themselves privately, as was done in the past, thus permanently ruining a young man's life for underage consensual sex. The harsh penalties that in no way fit the crime in such cases make the shotgun wedding seem like a more humane solution!

In some states, a person can even be classified as a "sex offender" for the rest of his life if he was arrested for urinating outdoors behind a dumpster! Such ludicrously blockheaded applications of the law fail to distinguish between someone purposely exposing themselves to others for sexual purposes and someone who simply wants to avoid soiling themselves because they cannot wait until they can find a restroom.

Once branded as "sex offenders", such people, few of whom are the true pedophile predators, are relegated to a permanent second class existence in the ways shown in the article. I even heard of several of these men being compelled by the state of Florida to live under a bridge because of all the restrictions on where they may live barred them from any normal housing in the area where they are under probation.

All this sex offender hysteria makes me wonder -- what about murderers who are out on parole, probation, or who have completed their obligations? No one seems to care overmuch where they live, where they work, nor are their movements normally restricted among the general public to the same degree as sex offenders. Do we really believe that someone who has killed another person, sometimes violently, is less of a danger to the public than a 17 year old boy who once got a consensual blowjob from his fifteen year old girlfriend, a public pee-er, or an adult who had drunken consensual sex in a car with a grown woman who later regretted it once she sobered up?

It's time lawmakers applied some rational, common-sense logic to the bloated "sex offender" classification and reserved this label for the true pedophiles and predators out there.

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» Don't give them any ideas Posted by: blogbooks
» RE: Don't give them any ideas Posted by: Cybershaman
Fear is the name of the game
Posted by: blogbooks on Jun 17, 2008 7:33 AM   
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When any minor infraction leaves you completely screwed forever, unable to find work, unable to find housing, cast out of civil society to live as a pariah, you learn to fear "justice."

Of course the rules of the game apply less and less as you become more wealthy. How many celebrities or politicians would be unemployed on the streets if they lacked their wealth to buy "forgiveness."

You want obedience from the peasants? You must make them know fear.

I'd say our system is working as intended.

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capital pinishment would work
Posted by: aamer923 on Jun 17, 2008 7:34 AM   
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no need for incarceration. Capital punishment will do. castrate the bastards. just the threat of capital punishment will protect us. there will be very few crimes. Singapore lashes people but is safer, Iran is safer. You can make fun of them but they are safer Death penalty works but the chance of a killer not being killed here in the US is more thn 99%. That is why it does not work. three strike child molester should not be alive. call me barbaric but I would rather lash the bastards than have 90000 rapes every year

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» Citations for your statements? Posted by: fanny666
Prisons, like FLDS Mormons, Remove Excess Males
Posted by: scheherezade on Jun 17, 2008 8:28 AM   
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A great percentage of incarcarations in this country serve the same function as long drawn-out wars used to -- they allow fat, balding, middle-aged male pigs to get rid of younger competition.

The FLDS Mormons accomplished this (and offered de facto anthropological affirmation of this basic male drive) by banishing young males.

But with soooo many soldiers now actually surviving our made-up wars (despite Walter Reed's best efforts to neglect them) we have to find new ways to get rid of excess males.

Enter the drug war, Byzantine child support rules, planted evidence, etc. It's not a formal conspiracy -- it's just males taking advantage of power inequalities to knock off the competition.

Women would do the same -- but they lack the institutional military, policing and judicial power enjoyed by men.

Meanwhile, pretty, 28-year old Jennifer Porter got away with a March 31, 2004 Tampa hit-and-run where she ran over 4 children, killing 2 (she dragged the 3 year old 120 feet).

Porter ran home, hid, and returned to her teaching job the next day. Her parents were complicit in the cover up. She only turned herself in (several days later) when it became clear the police were looking for a van like hers.

Her punishment for killing 2 children?

54-year-old, white, ex-Army officer Judge Emmett Lamar Battles sentenced Porter to community service. Battles said the accident had 'traumatized' Porter, and that she had expressed remorse, as reasons for the light sentence.

Of course, the children were black.

Would a black (or white) man have received the same sentence for a hit-and-run on two white children? Would a black women? An unattractive white woman? Did Battles masturbate after his heroic rescue of Ms. Porter from doing hard time?

We'll never know, but I have a feeling monkeys and anthropologists alike have a pretty good idea.

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Democrats would rather appear "Tough On Crime" than to win elections
Posted by: fanny666 on Jun 17, 2008 9:05 AM   
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I'm betting that this person Stokes is also not even allowed to vote anymore. To me, that's one of the craziest aspects of the American penal system- in many states even AFTER someone has "paid their debt to society" they are still not allowed to VOTE!

A brilliant Republican strategy to insure that millions of poor people- who would vote Democrat- are kept out of the voting booth. And the Democrats do what they do best, which is to allow the Republicans to set the terms of the debate, so they go along with it lest they appear "soft on crime." Whatever happened to "Smart On Crime"?

By the way, Corrections Corporation of America donates heavily to Republicans (Geo Group/ Wackenhut spreads it around a bit more). Here is a free MP3 lecture from Angela Davis on the Prison-Industrial System where she talks about this issue. (From the Excellent "Unwelcome Guests" radio show)

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no child left behind
Posted by: orionsan on Jun 17, 2008 9:39 AM   
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Years ago in Texas I had a temp job where most of my co-workers were felons in a work-release program living in halfway houses, which gave me a bit of insight into this system we have today. Basically, a felony gives society the permanent right to be prejudiced against you, and it is something you can't really escape, even after you do your time.

At the same time, they were breaking ground on all those private prisons in Texas, which had about a ten year lead time from planning to completion. Most of the guys I worked with started doing their prison time in their late teens to early twenties, mostly drug crimes borne of economic neccesity. So basically, in a system that simulatneously underfunded education, especially for the poor, yet held them accountable for their poor education, the prison beds where being built on the new "prison plantation" to take them in as soon as they came of age. This system looked forward to the neglected innocent childern of today being the convicted prison labor of tomorrow.

Combine this with the sweatshop labor we expliot overseas, and you get the feeling that maybe the South won the civil war after all, and slavery is flourishing like never before.

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Problems
Posted by: willymack on Jun 17, 2008 9:56 AM   
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Since Ronnie Boy impersonated our president, and with the help of the Texas Turd, we've piled up so many problems (for us poor ordinary people, that is) that unravelling the mess will be a monumental, but necessary task. Top priority will be to get over the hurtle of lies sure to be levelled at the Obama campaign, and the fraudulent vote counting just as sure to follow. With Obama in the White House, it will be of primary importance to make the bushies face the music for their eight year crime spree, followed by the elimination of the "patriot" act, homeland security, Guantanamo, and the phony "war on terror", including ending the illegal occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. Reform of our justice system must follow, but in the short run, it'll probably get short shrift until the more urgent problems are tackled.

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Fighter for Civil Rights
Posted by: hats on Jun 17, 2008 9:57 AM   
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I see there are a few people that think we ALL support rape and child molestation. I know of NOT ONE GROUP who supports rape or child molestation or any violent crime. What we all FIGHT for is civil rights for those caught in a ridiculous system. My son chatted his way onto the list, never met his friend, never was going to meet her--he KNEW she was 15 so therefore they chatted for over 2 years ONLY. Daddy caught her, grounded her and gave a life sentence to my son. Louisiana law says "Computer Aided Solicitation of a Minor" has a mandatory 2-10 year sentence hard labor. (I'm talking my son said "I wish you were legal" here) My son is in prison now and will be on parole next year IF he can follow all of their rules. He has to register as a sex offender no telling how long, they keep changing the laws!!! He signed papers stating it was 10 years, we'll see about that one.

Look up Senator Mark Foley and others in the LOUISIANA system who are not listed as sex offenders when Foley did EXACTLY (almost, he MET his fellow, a 16 year old page, my son NEVER met his friend) what my son is in prison for now! What's the deal with that one? It's WHO YOU KNOW, WHO YOU ARE. It's not legitimate law in the South.

The Governor of Louisiana has gone WAY overboard stating "All Sex Offenders need to live in Angola" ?? ALL sex offenders? Chatting ones? urinating in public ones? Ones who mooned someone? ALL??? Consensual teens having sex ones? Come on Governor Jindal. We need to differentiate WHO is a danger to our children and who is NOT. The Registry was meant to help, not hinder lawmakers. Right now it includes everyone, including all those I mention above -- WITH the baddest of the bad we all want to have punished. When will our lawmakers see the TRUTH? NO ONE supports rape or child molestation or any violent criminal behavior, NO ONE. My son will be listed as the most violent type - "Aggravated Sexual Assault of a Child" when he never even met the gal, all because of the age difference (which is quite normal, when I was 16 I would mainly date guys in their late 20's - they were a bit more mature than 16-20 year olds for SURE!) - 7 years. My son was 22 and she was 15. She had other boys she was doing the same thing with, so don't go knocking on my sons door alone. Age of Consent (I'm talking CONSENT, not rape) should be 13 at the MOST. ALL GIRLS age 13 know exactly how to say "NO". I did, all my friends did (but most said yes).

Find the Human Rights Watch 146 page booklet and read it. It's called "No Easy Answers". Inform yourselves what this country has done to over 600,000 people who MOST are of NO harm to anyone ever again. We are a sad example as a Christian nation not forgiving an entire class of citizens, yes, citizens. We can forgive murderers, we can forgive the drug dealer who ends up killing 10 kids, we can forgive the drunk driver who plowed down an entire group of people, we can even forgive serial killers, but we cannot forgive chatting online or teen sex, or tinkling in public. Unbelievable. I, for one, forgive them and want them to have normalcy in their lives so they can move forward. If they need counseling, so be it, but let them live!

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» How I feel for you Posted by: callejero
» my sympathy Posted by: deborama
The "Criminal" Justice System..
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Jun 17, 2008 10:33 AM   
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That's why they call it the "Criminal" Justice System..

The whole prison industry is dangerous and corrupt..they bankrupted this county of Ulster NY with a new county jail scam that stole our tobacco settlement money earmarked for health and education what should have been $36 million and spent it on debts, so they could build a $150 million dollar county jail that ran 100% plus over budget..creating an even worse and much bigger debt..

Of course none of those involved went to jail..

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The Just-Us system...
Posted by: Romantic Violence on Jun 17, 2008 10:46 AM   
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We need to realize that these 'crimes against humanity' didn't just emerge overnight. Senators, legislators, judges, po-lice officers, and etc. couldn't have created this system of inhumanity without support from guess who? We the People are complicit in creating this bullshit. We the People supported this insanity when we believed that 'tough on what ever laws' would effect only the most odious offenders. We felt immune, outside, and privileged. Now the seeds of misery that we have sown for others have now come back to haunt everyone. Anyone remembers Megan's Law? The law was supposed to target just 'child molesters' right? The law even has provisions to detain 'offenders' indefinitely even after they have served their sentences for the protection of society right? Wrong! Now everyone in prison is subject to the same treatment; internet photos, registration we know as parole, and the like. Visit NJDOC website. That's just one state. We have 50. 'Tough on laws' are not stationary; by contrast they are control mechanisms that are expansive. In spite of the injustice present in the 'justice' system, we continue to support our 'local police' no matter what. So stop complaining about what the 'terror system' is doing to its citizenry for it is WE WHO SUPPORTED THIS SHIT; IT IS WE WHO ARE GUILTY for allowing far removed others to define what justice is. All of this injustice has its roots in preying upon the fears of the middle classes and the self indulgent ignorance of the poor. Fear is such a lovely thing-if you are a politician and know how to use it on the uninformed, the weak, and the apathetic. I've always said that if you scare up enough people, give them illusion of justice and security; those same people will vote themselves and others into a concentration camp. It happened a long time ago already.

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» RE: The Just-Us system... Posted by: xenocyd
» RE: The Just-Us system... Posted by: Romantic Violence
sex offenders dilemma.
Posted by: nadine sellers on Jun 17, 2008 10:59 AM   
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Joe Bageant provides a detailed portrait of the consequences of ordinary life situations in a climate of greed and fear, this has become an atmosphere where love, sex and touching are considered dangerous outside of the bedroom.
What happens to the skin starved, gregarious beings who have natural impulses? natural needs?
What happens to the child who needs comfort, can't get any relief from friends, neighbors or teachers, not preachers either..

We live in a nation of paranoid reaction. A condition of profiteering from these reactions.
Parents are too busy, people are too lonely and now, it's time to drown all emotions in the cold shower, because any human bonding is going to be exploited and sold down the profit mill.

better turn off that love song on the radio, someone could sell your name to the legal potentate. that's one job we have not exported yet. prison racketeering.

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221 Years of "Slavery...as a Punishment for Crime..."
Posted by: prisonslavery on Jun 17, 2008 10:59 AM   
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Remember Jr. High School History classes? That's where we were taught all slavery had been abolished in our nation by virtue of a
great and bloody Civil War in America, and the resulting 13th Amendment made all slavery unconstitutional and illegal.

The Thirteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution (12/18/1865) states:

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT AS A PUNISHMENT FOR CRIME WHEREOF THE PARTY SHALL HAVE BEEN DULY CONVICTED, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

It's not that our teachers lied to us, because they hadn't been taught about the Exception for "slavery...as a punishment for crime..." Most attorney's remain ignorant about this screaming EXCEPTION; and "yes" it is a cash-cow, a production unit of the King Cotton agribusiness Slave Master for-profit corporate LLC Convict/Inmate/Prisoner Lease System at $35,000 per year per head, plus. And that's just for starters.

For years people have wanted to abolish that Exception for "slavery...as a punishment for crime" to read:

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

No EXCEPTIONS!

A few good readers of this great article rightfully seek other examples. Here's one.

30+ years ago a young husband defended his pregnant wife from the attacks of a millionare slumlord, and spent 5 years in prison, with 2 years on parole. 20+ years later the slavocracy class continues to deny the now older man gainful employment.

Some folks like to think that's it's only temporary prison slavery and when the ex-prisoner goes off parole they become free, emancipated, equal. The reality is that it's life long slavery with brief interludes and flirtations with freedom, liberty, peace, justus, and equality.

This reality shocks and terrorizes the social conscience, and it is more vile than presented here. Other contributors see and know it from their various perspectives.

The observation is that convict/prison slavery has expanded from the inside community to the outside community. This is an accurate observation.

Each of us know about this slave territory expansion of corporate control and ownership, fascism, war, economic depression, forclosures, no jobs, etc.

vs.

record breaking company profits for oil/gas, war contractors, for-profit prison construction, corrections services, convict lease systems, etc.

78 years before the 13th Amendment, the 1787 Ordiance of the North West Territory legislatively called for "slavery...to punish crime". That's where the 13th Amendment came from. That's where convict/prison slavery contract lease systems and like-purposed corporations originate. These are philosophical, material, and maybe genetic desendents of the old slaveholder corporations.

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ECONOMISTA NON GRATA
Posted by: albiegf13 on Jun 17, 2008 12:22 PM   
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The criminal justice system in America has been commercialized and streamlined. Advocacy is no longer accepted, you're either in or out....

The solution is informed consent. However this is very difficult to achieve. Most defendants are completely ignorant of due process and are pressured into not contesting charges that are filed against them. This pressure comes from a system of cooperation between prosecutors and defense attorneys. The solution is to plead "not guilty" at the arraignment. All defendants should plead "not guilty" at their first appearance, no matter what.... This alone, would cause dramatic changes in the criminal justice system. There are not enough judges or prosecutors in the entire country to handle such a case overload and thus it would prevent law enforcement from filing frivolous charges. Be diligent... Seek justice, especially for yourself....

THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT....!

Econolicious

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Always at least one idiot statement
Posted by: auio on Jun 17, 2008 12:40 PM   
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Excellent article. Much higher info to bullshit ratio than most Alternet articles. But every article on Alternet always has to have at the very least one idiotic statement. In this instance "Governments and states exist to control people and for no other reason." No, governments also exist to build roads and dispose of trash and so on. Governments exist for many reasons. I could take alternet a lot more seriously, as I'm sure many could, if it would filter out content that makes liberals look like morons.

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sounds about right
Posted by: bluebirdella on Jun 17, 2008 12:49 PM   
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There was a homeless kid whose family threw him out. To make a long story short, when he was 16 he got his 14 year old girlfriend pregnant. Her family wouldn't let her get an abortion, and they went to the cops, so he was charged with statutory rape and went to prison. His whole life is ruined because he had consensual sex with another minor. It's insane.

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» Education is the only Posted by: callejero
» RE: sounds about right Posted by: jc1234
Bring the Suicide Booths
Posted by: pangolin on Jun 17, 2008 1:51 PM   
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For all the bullshit talk about freedom, rights and liberty there is no intention of providing any of these to those so unfortunate enough to fall short of the high moral standards of white, upper-class, suburbia.

By 'fall short' I include all of those who by genetics, injury or exposure to toxins find themselves too ill to contribute to the comfort and profit of the wealthy. Include those who were exposed to lead, medical toxins, and poisoned food as infants and children who later find themselves living in a world that worships violence as a solution to personal and political problems.

Give the tired, the poor, the huddled masses that you refuse to care for except to inflict pain and indignity upon a way out. Let them GO since you don't want them.

Just don't go wailing when you find the one YOU loved didn't feel wanted either. Fair's fair.

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"shock & awe-ful things"
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Jun 17, 2008 3:08 PM   
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Naked Truth: Civil Rights & CNN coverage of "F.B.I. biometric database - 'Server in the Sky'" - so, exactly what was Hope Steffey's crime?

"FBI Deputizes Private Contractors With Extraordinary Powers, Including 'Shoot to Kill'"

"shock & awe-ful thing"s: "Taking Liberties" & forced drugging of Non-Americans on US flights


if you don't care when its **somebody else** who will care when its you?



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» RE: "shock & awe-ful things" Posted by: pangolin
Back to the point
Posted by: JayHaden on Jun 17, 2008 3:09 PM   
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Let's get back to Mr. Bageant's point. The machinery for enforcing virtual impotence is a cash cow. Look at the NASA map of night lights in the USA. Instead of cities, towns, villages and malls, think of each cluster of lights as a "profit center," a place to make money off your fellow human beings in a country where we don't make anything but profits anymore. This is how we compete with cheap Chinese labor. I recall a contractor who was building a hotel in Mombasa, Kenya, with prison labor from Korea. That's how less-than-really-rich-but-richer-than-really-poor countries can compete. If we can't make a developing country stop competing unfairly with prison labor, join 'em. Welcome to the slippery slope and the Third World. Here and now, it's not just labor, it's all those parolee "services," too. Literally, we've got a captive customer base. Is this the American Way of Life we are fighting for in Iraq (another of our profit centers)? This is a well-written, empathetic essay. Bageant picked the right subject to illustrate his point, an old geezer who may have ED by now (but who's checking?). Shame on us for accepting -- no, demanding -- this state of affairs.

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Welcome to the Gulags
Posted by: memary10 on Jun 17, 2008 3:42 PM   
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This article sounds like what happens all the time in California. We have for profit prisons and draconian sentencing laws. Rich white kids go to college and poor minority kids go to jail. My adult daughter was attacked by a vicious armed home invasion gang of at least 6 young men at 2:30 AM while staying over at a friend's house. As she is a light sleeper, she was the first one up. Terrified, she peered out the window holding a 22 hunting rifle as three men came running around the corner of the house. The gun accidentally discharged,the shot went wild and a 17 year old gang member on the other side of the fence was hit (he recovered fully) My daughter was interrogated without being allowed to call a lawyer, locked up without Mirandizing, and later arrested and charged with a felony strike after a great deal of abusive treatment. She was threatened with a capital murder charge and terrorized. According to the attorney, no one will do anything about the violation of her civil rights because this is SOP for our police department. Although there is no proof it was her bullet (there were a lot of guns on the scene) police took 15 minutes to respond, and there had been several horrible violent home invasion shootings that month, they offered her a plea of a felony strike and 18 months in state prison. She is 34 with no criminal record. HOWEVER, she is part black, disabled and a legal medical marijuana patient, as were the other two people in the house. I was able to make the $55,000 bail and had to cash in my retirement to get her a decent lawyer instead of an overworked public defender. It has been 9 months of continuances and refusals of the DA to turn over discovery evidence since this happened. Police refuse to do ballistics or allow our side to have the ballistics material which will probably be "lost" conveniently. My daughter would have been rotting in our filthy horrible county jail all this time if we couldn't make bail. Of course she would have gone so crazy she would have taken a plea just to get out, just as so many low income people do, though they may be innocent. Then their lives are ruined. If she were a white suburbanite she would have never been charged. To add insult to injury, none of the gang members were charged even though they admitted on tape they planned the attack. The guy who was wounded has turned 18 and got on disability immediately even though his friends say he is "back to his old self". Meanwhile, we have a homeless woman we are trying to help who is dying of cancer and can't get disability after 2 years of trying or housing. And this is justice in America??

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House Votes to Impeach Bush!
Posted by: search4beauty1 on Jun 17, 2008 3:54 PM   
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It's not on the local news yet, but you can see it here:


Click here
to read about it.





Although the link says TX House, it is the U.S. House that made this historic move!

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Already mentioned....
Posted by: Jeo567 on Jun 17, 2008 4:03 PM   
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but all the points Bageant makes apply double for drugs. I had a friend that got drunk, said some obnoxious shit to a cop, and ended up in drug court for a year. In some ways, the program isn't too bad idea, you're forced into treatment and at the end an your record is expunged.
However; some of the hoops he had to jump through were ridiculous. For 6 months he had to go to group therapy. The kid drank a bit too much but wasn't really an alcoholic, how does sticking him in a room with heroin addicts help him out?
The worst case he told me about was an old man who got caught with a few of the wrong kind of plants in his house. The judge, who really seemed to enjoy himself, forced the man to pretend he was an addict.
I can imagine sex crimes being so much worse. Thank god it wasn't the real cops that caught me when I went streaking in college.

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The comparison to Stalin was sound
Posted by: pomes on Jun 17, 2008 4:30 PM   
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Don't back away from it, these "offender registries" are a communist technique of social approval and social disapproval. Public shame in the eyes of your peers is a more powerful weapon than batons or stun guns.

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targeting for the prison-profit system starts young
Posted by: deang on Jun 17, 2008 4:49 PM   
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In the mid-90s, I had a job operating machines that score bubble-response survey answer sheets, hundreds of thousands of them. We got them mostly from schools and people doing various kinds of academic research, but at some point we started getting regular boxes of sheets, organized by school district, from a state agency that had had kids aged nine to twelve answer questions about their and their family's drug use and living habits, questions like, "Have you ever heard of Skunk?", "Is cheeva OK to do as long as you don't tell anybody?", "My big brother takes shrooms and I think he's cool, T or F?", that sort of thing. My coworkers and I couldn't figure out why so much money was being put into asking kids so young such incriminating questions. We guessed it probably was to help figure out which communities need more help dealing with drug problems. We finally asked the person who brought them to us, and he said that it was partly that but also so the state could know where to put more law enforcement and also help predict the future growth of the prison population.

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Binary Thinkers
Posted by: bobtr900 on Jun 17, 2008 6:39 PM   
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The binary thinkers of our country have us all by the throat. These are authoritarians who regard everyone as either good or evil. They all KNOW that they are the good so, by definition, everyone else who is not them nor thinks exactly like them is and must be evil.

The Repub party is full of these kind of people. they are the Theocons or the Theocrats, if you prefer the latter term. They are the right wing religious who are the enablers of the Rethug party and it's 'Culture of Death' for profits and political power. Or as this article demonstrates, the 'Culture of Imprisonment' for profits and political power.

Once one has a record it stays with them for life. Even Jesus spoke of forgiveness. And yet with these right wing puritanical thinkers there is no such thing as forgiveness. Even a felon is a child of God, and deserves a second chance. But the puritans who now rule our country will not allow such a thing as a second chance. Once someone is damnedby the stain of sin/crime one is damned forever. And besides the damning of others makes good profitable business for them.

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Here's a good example
Posted by: Sushi on Jun 17, 2008 7:13 PM   
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My best friend's son is 17 yrs old, just out of high school. His girlfriend (a strict Baptist good-girl virgin) sent him a phone photo of her spread legs, no panties as a tease. He lent his phone to a friend (another girl) who looked at the photos and turned the phone over to her mother, who went to the police. Now my friend's 17 yr old is in all kinds of hot water because his girlfriend is "underage".

He didn't do anything other than NOT delete a photo she sent to him. After her cooter-shot was shown all over town, to police and various friends and parents, her "reputation" smeared, he got off lucky that he wasn't charged with possession of child-pornography and ruining his life before he even has one. Both of them are still virgins. This scared the shit out of them (for a few more months until hormones take over).

Sushi
"If we learn from our mistakes, I'm about due for my Ph.D."

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Lizzy
Posted by: emmaliz on Jun 17, 2008 8:10 PM   
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I live in Arizona and have learned from my clients that if you plea bargain here to any kind of felony, you will never work again. Now tht it costs only a few dollars for a criminal backgroud and fingerprint check, everyone is subject to them. I have a client who is a poor minister who got involved with the wrong kind of woman and was falsely accused of all kinds of bad behaviors who pled to a "trespassing charge" at the behest of a lazy court-appointed attorney and now cannot work with people in any setting. The man is gifted, but hamstrung by the Arizona fingerprint board, who subjectively has decided that he is not "sorry for his crime" and therefore should not be able to get a fingerprint clearance. He was definitely guilty of naivete regarding borderline women, but certainly not guilty of trespassing.

I have another client who was charged with DUI and pled to having smmoked marijuana the day before. He had it in his system, but not on his person and was probably pulled over because he was driving an old car. He lost his license for 3 years and has an extrememly difficult time getting around as he lives out in the countryside, 10 miles from town. He also had a court-appointed attorney. Now that he is in treatment, he has met many folks who only got a slap on the wrist. They had private attornies. As he is too poor to hire a private attorney, he is out of luck. The man is a gifted carpenter, but cannot get to work, so he is going to become a taxpayer's expense as he has to apply for benefits, thanks to the court.

Have we come to a place where lawyers should be regulated like the medical industry? Shouldn't the rich be subject to the poor quality of "managed care" law that the poor get?

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Have you noticed
Posted by: rickiey on Jun 17, 2008 10:22 PM   
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That everyone who is lobbying for less punitive sentences for rapists always hold up a "plausibly innocent" convict as their example case?

Look, if you are going to talk about making things easier on rapists, then hold up a REAL rapist, not a "plausibly innocent" one, and use the innocent as an excuse to make things easier on the guilty.

If you truly believe that the guy is innocent, then fight for his fucking exoneration.

The sentencing system should not EVER be designed based on a presumption of innocence. That ends upon conviction.

Now, presuming that your friend stokes really DID what he was convicted of doing, using a gun to take a woman and rape her, do you NOW thing his sentence is too stringent?

I don't, because he's alive and I don't think rapists deserve that option.

And don't get me started on pedophiles.

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The coersion industry
Posted by: improperly_sedated on Jun 17, 2008 11:42 PM   
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This is just one part of it.

Take prisons and jails, police forces, criminal courts, the military, and the various pieces of the economy that support these things. Add these together and you have America's dominant industry: forcing people to do what they're told.

Land of the free my ass.

(Does anyone have economic data on these things? I keep meaning to research it, but someone else is probably way ahead of me.)

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The american social system is totally aberrant (fucked)
Posted by: wisegalah on Jun 18, 2008 1:37 AM   
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The correctional system should not be a for-profit business.
WHY?
Because it reduces individuals to economic units to be exploited by those licenced to process them.

The health insurance system should not be a for-profit business.
WHY?
Because it reduces individuals to economic units to be exploited by those licenced to process them.

Price controls should be set on pharmaceutical, and related medical services to protect the individual for the amoral predation of the pharmaceutical industry.
WHY?
Because in the face of large corporations individuals do not have the resources to protect themselve against predatory pricing and other amoral practices.

Medical insurance should be universal with companies unable to refuse any application or to make profits larger than 5% of turnover (with amounts above that rolled over into funds for following years).
WHY
Profit making health funds turn individuals to economic units to be exploited by those licenced to process them.
And it is cheaper. Admin costs for health systems with this type of system run at about 7%, often less. USofA admin costs run at 23% and higher.


Livable minimum wages should be set for all employees.
WHY
All should be supported to the extent that they may live in a rich country with a minimum of dignity and safety.

A government's functions should include protecting the individual from the powerful and the rapacious. Large companies should not have protections which were originally intended for the individual. No large company in a sane system has human rights.
WHY
Large powerful organisations (like CocaCola)have already shown that they will use their power ruthlessly to grab whatever they can to turn a dollar without regard to the rights of individuals or communities.

And for all screeming communist. Don't be so stupid.
All of these are actually in accord with the intent and tenor your own constitution.

And are regarded as common sense and decency in much of the world outside America. Mmmmm. Maybe that means ........Could well be.

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Living in society helps us keep our balance.
Posted by: wholeman on Jun 18, 2008 4:46 AM   
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When my stepchildren were teenagers, my wife's personality changed. She became reckless and careless. She was rash and unpredictable. She made threats and made unreasonable demands. The daily turmoil went on for months.

Of course, her children became imprudent and aggressive. They are adults now, but I am trying conceal their identity by limiting information about them.

I nearly lost my mind before filing for divorce and getting an order of protection removing her and the kids from the house.

She stayed with friends for about a month treating them the same way. They made her move.

She and the kids stayed with extended family members. They had a big row. After only a week, family drove them to a homeless shelter and dropped them off.

Family Services showed up at the shelter when the kids took off and their mother didn't know where they went.

They went to another homeless shelter where the chaos continued. The kids cut school, ran from home, and ran from authorities. They learned the hard way that she could no longer be a parent to them.

About a year after the divorce she was diagnosed with a rare disorder called Niemann-Pick disease. I didn't find out about the diagnoses for another year.

Niemann-Pick disease causes psychosis and dementia. It is degenerative and always ends in death. There is no cure. She is one of the few to live beyond xx years of age.

Her kids have grown up wild, without anyone to trust. Gradually, I am trying to help them as they allow me to get involved. One child told me I should have fought to get custody of them. I was amazed and said, "Do you realize how you would have fought me?" "Yes, but it would have been the best thing that could happened to us". I was stunned.

Now my ex-wife is in a nursing home. She is losing her memory of important events and relationships. She is losing control of motor skills.

One sibling has seen a lot of detention, jail, and prison. Another kid, generally wanted to be liked and decided not to be a rebel. That child went to live with family and excelled in school, sports, attended college and got a good job.

What makes the difference? What makes one child try to obey and want to make people happy and the other want to be contrary in every way?

I sent lots of information about the disease to the child in prison. Hopefully the kid understands that the mother could die before parole time.

Family, friends, Church groups, sports teams, etc. can, and should, warn, teach, persuade, encourage, discipline, question, challenge, strenghten, and otherwise love individuals who are having a tough time. Please, you might have just what they need to hear to keep them on track or find the way back.

I really think my child cares about coming home and staying free. This kid has been acknowledging some of the negative habits and behaviors that have been so destructive in the past.

I think that individual would believe the theory of prisons trapping young men to insure the success of old men on the outside is silly. The government spends far more on the court and penal system than it could ever hope to regain from an indentured servanthood operation.

I have asked my kids to follow me as I follow Christ.

I have taught my kids to live a sober life, to wait until marriage to have sex. My children know that I've never been with anyone but their mother. I respect people and always behave so that they will return respect. My kid has always seen me read material that is decent and legal, I register my cars and guns, I buy car insurance, I've always worked and paid taxes, tried to save for a rainy day, and shared with people who have less.

It's nothing special but it is honorable.

Love,

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A widening view...
Posted by: dancingdead on Jun 18, 2008 4:46 AM   
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Bageant deserves a lot of praise for calling foul the way he does...there are certainly collective failures deep at work. But his take on culture and class is a bit too socialist for my liking. The role of personal responsibility can not be downplayed to the degree that he would have it. In Joe's world, if a person is born a redneck into one of the Southern states, they are essentially deprived of the same amount of free will that people get elsewhere. Well hey I got news for you: I grew up drinking and fucking in cars too. My God I could write a book about Rt 29 between Frederick and C'ville. But I don't that anymore. I took responsibility for some change and I grew up. Keep up the good work Joe you Commie Bastard.

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I Was Flabbergasted To Find
Posted by: desidid on Jun 18, 2008 5:59 AM   
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out that people have to pay for probation here in South Carolina. If you're already poor, paying for your freedom from prison seems like an extended sentence to me.

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Actually, you don't even have to break a law . . .
Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on Jun 18, 2008 8:53 AM   
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When those who hate your politically need, they have only to call the IRS. IRS, as Thomas Jefferson warned, has the power to destroy - and without having to observe all the niceties of law.

For some reason, though - a reason spelled Operation MOCKINGBIRD and its control of the media - the public remains unaware. When I (a PI) caught a local prosecutor in malfeasance - faking evidence in court - and an FBI agent in perjury, they sicced the IRS on me. My business was seized, my family attacked and my marriage destroy, and one of my kids driven to three attempts at suicide - all not just once, but twice. The IRS and the federal government (in the nation of laws, let us be reminded) then took effective steps to assure that I would never again be gainfully employed.

They were successful. Driven to leave my family, I lived for a decade in the wilderness and off the land. Not daring to maintain any kind of contact with them - IRS most powerful weapon against some is the attack on family - I have not seen anyone in my family for many years.

This is a vicious, vengeful, and criminal nation, run by the principles of the corporation. Only profit matters. People don't.

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one problem with story about ole' stokes
Posted by: srob on Jun 18, 2008 1:01 PM   
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Ole' Stokes was found guilty of carnal knowledge with a 13-15 year old girl. Look it up under frederick county or city of winchester virginia sex offender registry....

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hmmmmm...was Stokes really that innocent?
Posted by: SusanMcGee on Jun 18, 2008 7:47 PM   
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First, I take exception. Stokes' version of the crime is that he was having sex with a married woman and just HAPPENED to have an unregistered handgun in the car.
What is the real deal?
Did the woman really consent and then "cry rape" afterwards?
This might have had more credibility 40 years ago, but these days lots of people have sex outside of marriage and don't have to "falsely accuse" their partner of rape in order to vindicate themselves from being unfaithful wives.
Every single rapist and batterer I have encountered (thousands) have had a long anecdotal explanation of how it really didn't happen and how the victim was at fault and they were railroaded. Almost all real live criminals will give you a long story about how they were not really to blame.
I'm stunned that you don't address the issue of sex offenders who DID have sex with minor children under 13 or under five...

Now, having said that, too many people are on the sex offender registry who shouldn't be there, and there should be a distinction between those there for sex with other adults and those there for sex with children.

Sex offenders SHOULD have the opportunity to work in jobs.

The prison industrial complex IS big business in the United States.

But why don't you talk about those who are imprisoned for drug crimes (possession) or white collar crimes who spend the rest of their life paying for a mistake? Who can't get a job?

Why are you so fixated on helping rapists?

Very, very strange article.

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Why Men Are Not Cost Effective
Posted by: Beepath on Jun 18, 2008 10:23 PM   
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This is the title of a book I read years ago, written by a psych professor at Stanford, obviously female. I've tried to track the book down because it suggested very constructive ideas, if biased. The best was the suggestion that if every woman giving birth to a son threw $100 into a kitty, it would be used to offset any destruction he is ever involved in.

Reckon a bit more would be deposited for mothers like Barbra Bush, Karl Rove's mother, etc,. but you get the idea.

Now, feminist men of quality would be amused, if not agreeable to this particular suggestion. Being self-aware, they'd know not to take it personally.

We need to watch our behavior when dealing with authority figures and/or nutty people. Being drunk or high puts people in awfully vulnerable situations. That's why I live alone and have cats, sheesh....

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“Personal Responsibility”, “Ignorance of the Law is No Excuse” vs. “Boys will be Boys”
Posted by: Overburdened Planet on Jun 20, 2008 7:05 AM   
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Can we all agree having sex in public and possessing an unregistered weapon has legal consequences and that ignorance of the law is no excuse?

Can we all agree having sex with a married person has consequences and that personal responsibility was lacking, meaning these people weren’t taking responsibility for their actions?

I see a few other posters can agree there’s a problem with the author, Joe Bageant, stating: “…the lady's testimony was that it was all against her will, which being a married woman, solved a lot of problems for her.” Exactly how does Bageant know the married woman wasn’t telling the truth?

And lastly, I realize there are many issues Bageant is trying to tie in, but again, ignorance of the law is no excuse and where’s mention of personal responsibility? Why accept the mentality that it is “…common practice…”, “…rednecks are often like that…” and “…big deal” to break the law? It doesn’t help Bageant’s other arguments.

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Helping a neighbor and paying for it legally.
Posted by: two on Jun 21, 2008 3:04 PM   
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How about trying to help a neighbor. There was a flood, police asked me to hand out flyers, met this lonely indigenet woman holding to her cat. Saying things like "I do not know what to do" but she had a boyfriend at a low level job. Since I have taken in the homeless my heart went out to her and so for the next year or so I would take her to doctors and shopping. Then she got upset and called me and left a message that she and her were at war (at some point I realized she was on prescription drugs to get high) The police knew of her, she had several DUI and on probation and incidents of physcial abuse. They heard the tape of her threats. And then she did several hostile acts to my rental and finally at a store she assulted me. A few months later the cops came around and charged me and NOT her for being violent. The store recorded all and the video shows her assualting me and I just standing.

Finally after hiring a lawyer the case was dismissed but I now have some record. And I sit and wonder but why? It is a small town and I think maybe because the police saw my Martin Luther, Jr. book or did not like my liberal talks, or what? Some people with power have done this. We are put in a convinient cubby hole if we are different or if we practice unusual behavior such as helping a neighbor, or speak out about injustices. The whole process as said is to dehumanize us and keep us in control and incidents that can be fixed humanly are instead compounded in which people are destroyed. Right now in most places it is illegal to be homeless for the unemployed. The judgement is according to money, dont have any then no justice and no compassion to fix the problem.

Sell very serious drugs to the ones in black communities and have money then get treated as one of the guys. Be without money and have priniciples the status quo does not care, in fact they think one with scruples is stupid, inferior. The next step is to remove the ones they think of as undesirable from the community through big time lies and fabrication. They set the rules and everyone from the top to the bottom follow suit and then they wonder why there is no sense of right and wrong?

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Did His Time
Posted by: beautifulady2003 on Jun 22, 2008 6:12 AM   
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I've always had a problem with the sex offender laws, the registration and the "risk level" designations that are attached to an offender like a scarlet letter at the sole discretion of the sentencing judge at the time the offender is released from custody. As a former court employee I was uncomfortable with this arbitrary and capricious designation for obvious reasons, but as a US citizen I was also concerned about the continuation of punishment beyond the maximum expiration of the offender's sentence. I am surprised that this law is considered to be constitutional when it is compared to, say, laws covering convicted murderers, robbers, etc. Tagging an offender according to his or her risk level (risk of reoffending) first for sex offenders, and then what's next? Drug dealers, murderers, robbers - why aren't these people tagged and placed into a registry too? I've always been concerned about these unanswered questions. But it should be obvious that many laws, including the sex offender laws, are passed mostly to molify the public and serve no real purpose.

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Bottom line is self control, ie., behave yourself
Posted by: Landbaron on Jun 23, 2008 2:19 PM   
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Let the people with; 'explosive personality disorders coupled with white hot tempers' have to pay and pay and pay....

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syed salamah ali mahdi
Posted by: salamah on Jun 24, 2008 11:45 AM   
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My blue blood American friend of 37 long years, Thomas Brewster Manton, Ph.D, descendent of Thomas Jefferson, son of a Methodist missionary who spent most of his life in Burma right through the Japanese Occupation, graduate of Woodstock, Massouri, India and doctorate from Berkeley, who spent his entire life as an activist for causes like US-China rapproachment (prior Nixon/Kissinger), freedom for Sang Aung Kyi and Fathi Al Gahmi (Libyan activist languishing in Gaddafi's 5 star rest house for more than a decade), Benazir Bhutto and the return of Democracy to Pakistan, was on his way to Miami airport from Okeecheebee in Florida to join up with Benazir Bhutto and fly with her to Pakistan, the same trip which ended up in her criminal assassination. On her earlier trip to Washington DC, Tom had helped arrange 'meetings' for her. On his way he had to pick up his lap-top from a workshop where he had deposited it the night before for reformating after a virus had destroyed ALL FILES threin. When he arrived at the workshop he was SWOTTED ROBICOP style, hand cuffed and taken to the Okeecheebee County Police HOLD UP. Accusation:CHILD PORNOGRAPHY! Somehow loads of child porno files were found in his lap top, the same where ALL FILES had been wiped out by a Virus. Bail was set for ONE MILLION DOLLARS! My friend is languishing in the Okeecheebee County Jail since August 2008. Benazir is dead and Aung Su Kyi and Fathi Al Gahmi are rotting in their jails too. There is no ONE MILLION DOLLAR available. Dr. Manton is 68 years old and suffers from high blood pressure in AMERICA, not in Burma not in Libya not in Pakistan, in THE United States of America! And MacCain is on his way to the White House!

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Posted by: salamah on Jun 24, 2008 11:46 AM   
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My blue blood American friend of 37 long years, Thomas Brewster Manton, Ph.D, descendent of Thomas Jefferson, son of a Methodist missionary who spent most of his life in Burma right through the Japanese Occupation, graduate of Woodstock, Massouri, India and doctorate from Berkeley, who spent his entire life as an activist for causes like US-China rapproachment (prior Nixon/Kissinger), freedom for Sang Aung Kyi and Fathi Al Gahmi (Libyan activist languishing in Gaddafi's 5 star rest house for more than a decade), Benazir Bhutto and the return of Democracy to Pakistan, was on his way to Miami airport from Okeecheebee in Florida to join up with Benazir Bhutto and fly with her to Pakistan, the same trip which ended up in her criminal assassination. On her earlier trip to Washington DC, Tom had helped arrange 'meetings' for her. On his way he had to pick up his lap-top from a workshop where he had deposited it the night before for reformating after a virus had destroyed ALL FILES threin. When he arrived at the workshop he was SWOTTED ROBICOP style, hand cuffed and taken to the Okeecheebee County Police HOLD UP. Accusation:CHILD PORNOGRAPHY! Somehow loads of child porno files were found in his lap top, the same where ALL FILES had been wiped out by a Virus. Bail was set for ONE MILLION DOLLARS! My friend is languishing in the Okeecheebee County Jail since August 2008. Benazir is dead and Aung Su Kyi and Fathi Al Gahmi are rotting in their jails too. There is no ONE MILLION DOLLAR available. Dr. Manton is 68 years old and suffers from high blood pressure in AMERICA, not in Burma not in Libya not in Pakistan, in THE United States of America! And MacCain is on his way to the White House!

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My blue blood American friend of 37 long years, Thomas Brewster Manton, Ph.D, descendent of Thomas Jefferson, son of a Methodist missionary who spent most of his life in Burma right through the Japanese Occupation, graduate of Woodstock, Massouri, India and doctorate from Berkeley, who spent his entire life as an activist for causes like US-China rapproachment (prior Nixon/Kissinger), freedom for Sang Aung Kyi and Fathi Al Gahmi (Libyan activist languishing in Gaddafi's 5 star rest house for more than a decade), Benazir Bhutto and the return of Democracy to Pakistan, was on his way to Miami airport from Okeecheebee in Florida to join up with Benazir Bhutto and fly with her to Pakistan, the same trip which ended up in her criminal assassination. On her earlier trip to Washington DC, Tom had helped arrange 'meetings' for her. On his way he had to pick up his lap-top from a workshop where he had deposited it the night before for reformating after a virus had destroyed ALL FILES threin. When he arrived at the workshop he was SWOTTED ROBICOP style, hand cuffed and taken to the Okeecheebee County Police HOLD UP. Accusation:CHILD PORNOGRAPHY! Somehow loads of child porno files were found in his lap top, the same where ALL FILES had been wiped out by a Virus. Bail was set for ONE MILLION DOLLARS! My friend is languishing in the Okeecheebee County Jail since August 2008. Benazir is dead and Aung Su Kyi and Fathi Al Gahmi are rotting in their jails too. There is no ONE MILLION DOLLAR available. Dr. Manton is 68 years old and suffers from high blood pressure in AMERICA, not in Burma not in Libya not in Pakistan, in THE United States of America! And MacCain is on his way to the White House!

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